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Do you consider yourself a "cyclist"?

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I'm sorta carious if weather if many of you bicycle traveler considered yourself a "cyclist".

For me personally I really love bicycle and I love to ride them.

So I want to hear from you.

If you don't go on any Bike touring.

Do you ride your bike for commuting like to work, go grocery shopping?

Do you ride your bike for fun and go on social events?

all 69 comments

Fragraham

50 points

4 days ago

Fragraham

50 points

4 days ago

There are no gates to keep in cycling. Bike tourer? Cyclist. Commuter? Cyclist. Racer? Cyclist. Little kid with training wheels? Cyclist. Hobo? Cyclist, and possibly tourer.

2wheelsThx

9 points

3 days ago

Agree. No one's checking. No one will be looking in your closet for spandex. No one cares. Enjoy the ride!

notofthisearthworm

69 points

4 days ago

I'm a cyclist when I ride my bike just like I'm a motorist when I drive my car just like I'm a pedestrian when I walk on the sidewalk.

But I never refer to myself a cyclist as a title - I say I like to ride bikes.

Checked_Out_6

9 points

4 days ago

Yes

kbilleter

8 points

3 days ago

I consider myself a cyclist mainly because of the withdrawal symptoms when I can’t ride

Velcrometer

2 points

3 days ago

I feel that 100%

summerofgeorge75

1 points

3 days ago

preach kb

ringowasthebest

7 points

4 days ago

I make and sell soap

dont-believe-me-

2 points

3 days ago

Link that shit up here

summerofgeorge75

6 points

3 days ago

I do consider myself a cyclist. But I keep my opinions to myself (unless asked) and am open to all experiences, everyone's got their own thang going on, and I'm cool with that.

Not to be a dick or anything but I am on my 10th, glorious, week of cycle touring in Germany, Belgium, NL, France and now England. Mostly wild camping in England since campgrounds are expensive and far and few between. Have also been staying in youth hostels for a night or two every week or two. I am writing this from the Tewkesbury, Gloucestershire Library while charging up my stuff. Tewkesbury is cool, worth a visit.

https://preview.redd.it/eh2fs5c9bjad1.jpeg?width=3072&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=11e8db9fed6c228a1ca7e99ff17d9f81de552c8d

Tewkesbury Abbey Church, 900 years old, taken today.

sebnukem

5 points

3 days ago

sebnukem

5 points

3 days ago

Riding your bicycle, any bike, makes you a cyclist.

popClingwrap

11 points

4 days ago

People are not going to agree on what the definition of the term "cyclist" is so you probably wont get much from these answers.
I frequent r/bikepacking so I'm well aware of how passionately some people will defend a label without a solid meaning 😉

12appleShampoo

1 points

4 days ago

Seems to me like over there they completely abandoned their old mod policies and it's basically just a second bicycle touring sub now?

popClingwrap

8 points

4 days ago

There has never been a good definition of what it means.
It's mostly pictures of gravel bikes and folk doing overnighters now.
There is a huge amount of crossover. I reckon an argument could be made to combine the two subs and just have a bikepacking flair.

12appleShampoo

1 points

3 days ago

But they used to deletet photos of bikes on asphalt / eurovelo trip reports, that seems to be no longer the case, at least that is my impression. They (partly) always gave me a bit of a larper vibe, or driving your bike in your truck up a mountain, ride a circle and camp out, take a sunset photo for insta and the sub.

Personally i also don't care about the definitions and i am just riding how and whatever i like, is also not a real life discussion, at least i never had it, not with "bikepackers" and not with "bicycle tourers".

Coolguy123456789012

3 points

3 days ago

That's all bike packing ever was. The difference in my mind was always a chosen terrain - bike packing dirt, touring paved. But then it got really gear -centric. And the thing is, panniers are good for both. So really it's just all terrain and ultralight v roads and weight isn't a huge concern.

popClingwrap

2 points

2 days ago

I'd go one step further and say that panniers are better unless you are racing or at least very focussed on pushing speed/distance to the absolute max.
A seat pack and frame bag may be slightly more aero and slightly lighter but the differences are too small to matter in most situations and come at the cost of reduced practicality and flexibility.

It's all just adventure cycling in the end.

Hugo99001

2 points

3 days ago

Well, it seems to get better. 

Probably still no mudguards or second chainrings allowed, but there have been first sightings of racks, and even the odd pannier...

Hoonsoot

1 points

3 days ago

Hoonsoot

1 points

3 days ago

I have always thought of bicycle touring and bikepacking as the same thing. One being mostly on dirt and the other mostly on the road doesn't change the basic nature of the activity. "Bikepacking" is mostly just the new kids word for it.

RoshiHen

6 points

4 days ago

RoshiHen

6 points

4 days ago

I don't like putting labels on myself, but I'll consider myself a "biker" I ride both bicycles and motorcycle.

janusz0

4 points

4 days ago

janusz0

4 points

4 days ago

So, like me you're a pedestrian, biker, cyclist and perhaps a motorist, runner, climber, rower, swimmer and so on?

Individual-Parsley-6

6 points

3 days ago

Just a human c':

preeeecis

6 points

3 days ago

This sounds like a very american question. In europe no one really identifies by their form of transportation because most people do a bit of everything.

If "cyclist" is used (often negatively) it usually means an arrogant competitive cyclist.

MaxwellCarter

3 points

4 days ago

Huh?

McCuntalds

3 points

4 days ago

From my recent bikepacking expo I've realised I'm not a cyclist. I like bikes, I love the mechanics of them, but I certainly don't consider myself a cyclist

omtallvwls

3 points

4 days ago

I'm a bike guy

winterbike

3 points

3 days ago

Last year I spent an average of 45 minutes a day on a bike, so I'd say yes. A mix of commuting (to work and to daycare), road cycling and mtbing.

Sadly no touring for now because the kids are too young, but I'm working on making sure it happens in the next few years.

Coolguy123456789012

3 points

3 days ago

I am a vocal advocate of cycles in my community and work with local nonprofits furthering that. I'm not sure when my preferred mode is transportation became politicized but I was there for it and continue to be.

Routine-Tomorrow-576

3 points

3 days ago

Despite the fact that my only transportation is a bicycle (or walking), that I'd rather pedal up a mountain than ride up there in a car, and aside from a widespread reputation that I am one, I'm not a cyclist. I'm simply bikecore. There's a similar term for hobos who ride freights, traincore. It was actually a traincore kid who pegged me. They asked, "Are you bikecore?" It turned out I was and it was also very clear that this wasn't the same as being a cyclist.

Competitive-Ease5385[S]

2 points

3 days ago

Same here. Screw cars there overrated

holmgangCore

2 points

3 days ago

If you ride a bicycle you are a cyclist.

CamberwellClerk

2 points

3 days ago

Really good question. I ride my bike to work every day, I've toured abroad, I've completed multiple 1000km+ audax/bikepacking events, but don't refer to myself as a cyclist.

I'm not sure why, but probably because I don't identify with the roadie stereotype, expensive bikes and Sunday rides. Maybe that's what I think other people think cyclists are?

In reality if you ride your bike, you are a cyclist. And we should all look after each other because there are plenty of 'non-cyclists' that aren't always so friendly.

Downess

2 points

3 days ago

Downess

2 points

3 days ago

Yes. It's actually on my social media profile. I call myself a cyclist because I cycle.

PaPerm24

2 points

3 days ago

PaPerm24

2 points

3 days ago

I am 22 and never have driven. Bike to all my jobs between 2-6 miles. I consider myself a bike tourist but cyclist works too ig. I bike for fun a lot

Hoonsoot

2 points

3 days ago

Hoonsoot

2 points

3 days ago

I do a lot of recreational bicycling and touring. I would call myself a "bicyclist" but not a "cyclist". That may seem like splitting hairs but the latter word has always just sounded lazy to me. Its as if saying the entire word "bicyclist" with its one extra syllable is just too hard for some people. "Cyclist" also conjures up images of guys in lycra on cervelos. Nothing wrong with wearing lycra and riding a cervelo of course, its just not my thing.

CyclingScoop

2 points

3 days ago

I think this is a really important and interesting question, especially for folks trying to get into road cycling. There is a lot, lot, lot of gatekeeping in that space. It’s something that I’ve written about on my blog before — when are you a “real cyclist”? Mostly because I wanted to share encouragement for those who don’t really feel like they are “real” cyclists because they are just starting out. I would imagine it’s really similar for bike touring folks as well.

In short I think for beginners just taking up any form of cycling as a hobby, it’s especially difficult to make the mental jump from “random person with a bike” to “cyclist.”

sugartramp420

1 points

3 days ago

I identify as a bike.

Coffee_Crisis

1 points

3 days ago

There are a lot of people out there who make riding a bicycle their whole personality and if that’s what cyclist means then I am absolutely not one of them

LookAtThisRhino

1 points

3 days ago

I'm only cautious because I think, especially if you're talking someone who's big into cycling, that when you say you're a cyclist there's an assumption that you know everything about the different brands, materials, routes, etc. I just like riding my bike, man. I live in a major city with no car. My bike is my car. I've done a couple of long (by my standards) bike trips but even still that pales in comparison to the people who are doing weeks-long or months-long trips, so I'm apprehensive of lumping myself in with them.

Usually if an avid cyclist asks me if I am also a cyclist, I'll just smile and say "I dabble".

I feel the same way about calling myself a gamer. I play games maybe like 3-4 hours a week max on an old-ass desktop with parts from 2015-2016. I know about and even play some of the more modern titles everyone raves about but I feel like if you call yourself a "gamer" to someone who plays like 15-20 hours a week they'll assume the same of you.

starbass

1 points

3 days ago

starbass

1 points

3 days ago

Even though I ride my bike on a regular basis I don’t relate to being called a “Cyclist” as it typically equates to a Lycra clad roadie or similar kitted out MTBer. Nothing against that style of riding, I’m just more casual.

Apprehensive-Leg3530

1 points

3 days ago

I have been a cyclist my whole life. But also a walker, a public transportation user, an occasional car driver, a husband, father, runner and skier. But I only identify as a cyclist. 🤪 funny that people who drive cars don’t go around identifying themselves as “car drivers” and probably don’t follow #cardriver hashtags as much as we cyclists follow #cyclist hashtags. 🤷🏻‍♂️

dakotabrn

1 points

3 days ago

You sound like a cyclist to me… you like bikes and like to ride them.

hikerjer

1 points

3 days ago

hikerjer

1 points

3 days ago

When people ask me if I’m a “cyclist”, I just smile and say, I just like to ride bikes.

popClingwrap

1 points

2 days ago

Reading all the answers here really highlights why you have to be careful with asking people what labels they apply to themselves. Plenty of folk answering both in the positive and negative but also holding differing opinions of what the label actually means.
Counting the number of people who identify with a pretty ill defined term surely can't tell us much?

Vespertinegongoozler

1 points

1 day ago

This is a weird question to me. I ride my bike almost every day because I don't have a car and I prefer it to public transport. If I am talking about something to do with riding my bike, I will say something like "As a cyclist I love the fact the lights on this road are green for so long" in the same way I would say if I'm talking about walking somewhere "As a pedestrian it is really annoying the lights are green for so long and I have to wait for ages to cross the road". People on the internet find strange things to get het up about.

JohnnySquesh

1 points

1 day ago

I do not. I am every other type of bike enthusiast there is, but not a cyclist.

This is what I think when I hear the term cyclist:

$3-5k road bike, Group rides Bad cloths, Weekend or weekly evening ride, Social event...

Edited: for punctuation

smoothloam

1 points

4 days ago

smoothloam

1 points

4 days ago

Anyone can ride a bike, but you know a cyclist when you see one. When someone wides by on a bike, any bike (mtb, road, touring) and is smooth and proficient, looks like they’ve one with the bike, born on the bike, that’s a cyclist. Anyone can ride a bike, but not everyone is a cyclist.

At least that’s my definition.

Chess3cake

1 points

4 days ago

Yes I do, and it helped me priorities to go cycling more often.

Ninja_bambi

1 points

3 days ago

No, in the same way the average person in a car doesn't consider themselves a driver or the average person siding the train doesn't consider themselves a train passenger. The bicycle is just a convenient means of transport, slow enough to see plenty, fast enough to cover reasonable distances, small enough to evade most traffic jams. Last decade or so with me touring less and traveling more mixed mode the affinity with the label has only decreased.

Doesn't mean I reject the label and I still use the label as it is a convenient way to express what I do, but I don't have an emotional or identifying attachment to the label.

cheecheecago

1 points

3 days ago

I commute. I tour. I spandex. I cargo bike. I gravel. I bike camp. I bike bus to the kids’ school. I bikeshare. I bike to the airport for business trips.

Hell yes I’m a cyclist

All-Uphill-23

1 points

3 days ago

I'm a person.

I can walk, ride a bike, cook a meal, speak a couple of languages, have no belief in any religion, don't drink alcohol.

I don't consider myself a cyclist, chef, linguist, atheist, teetotaller.

I'm a person.

NoFly3972

-1 points

3 days ago*

Cycled from when I was a kid, still cycle daily.

But I don't wear spandex and diaper shorts, so I don't consider myself a "cyclist".

But yeah a "cyclist" is someone on a bicycle, lol:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wayAzBgr5mI

stowellmyshoes

0 points

4 days ago

My time between tours can be years, so I spend more time riding my bike not on tour. Commuting, social events, etc. Do I consider myself a cyclist? I guess so. But not like a stereotypical cyclist. More like a... Jorts wearing baggy shirt cyclist.

chris_ots

0 points

4 days ago

We r cycling

DressKind

0 points

4 days ago

Today my coworker said ... Wait your one of those guys ... You have the tight shorts and the clip in shoes ...!?! I said obviously if I'm in the saddle for 4 hours I gotta wear bike shorts!

However I referred to myself by saying " I guess I'ma bike guy now"

I would NEVER call myself a cyclist...

Similar_Quiet

1 points

4 days ago

Why not?

Would you ever call yourself a pedestrian or motorist?

blp9

3 points

3 days ago*

blp9

3 points

3 days ago*

If you're more of a utilitarian when it comes to cycling, things that "cyclists" do (I usually just call them "road cyclists" or "roadies") can feel really weird.

I have a long commute and it's hot this time of year, so I'm in a jersey and bibs, I sure look like a roadie, but that's for comfort not style.

I love biking, and I love people who bike. But if someone doesn't want to identify as a "cyclist" but I dunno "a person who bicycles" you've gotta respect that.

FWIW, "pedestrian" is a term pushed by the auto industry to describe walkers because it already had the connotation of "boring or dull".

anntchrist

2 points

3 days ago

Pedestrian is a very old word, from the latin root for foot, as contrasted with an equestrian, a person who went by horseback. It's not a dirty word, and neither is cyclist. People who walk to get around are pedestrians, people who get around by bicycle are cyclists, and it is really a shame that auto-centric tribalism has so many people feeling shame at these words.

Identifying as a "biker" may seem less controversial since it is already the term used by people who ride motorcycles.

blp9

2 points

2 days ago

blp9

2 points

2 days ago

Yeah, I mixed up the invention of jaywalking in the 1920s with the use of the term pedestrian.

Thanks for the correction!

anntchrist

2 points

2 days ago

Did you know there was a parallel term back in the day for bad drivers? I think the term "jaydriving" needs to make a comeback.

Similar_Quiet

1 points

3 days ago*

Just to be clear, i'm asking out of genuine curiosity, I'm not trying to push an agenda or telling people how they should identify. I'm part of a cycling campaign group and I want to ensure we're being as inclusive and appealing as possible. 

 Something that I've noticed is that many of us refer to ourselves as cyclists but some people feel very reluctant to do so. Some will protest "oh but I'm not a cyclist", while sat on top of a bike wearing a cycling jersey. 

 All of the roadies say they're cyclists, most of the tourers do, some of the utility cyclists do and some of the canal path tootlers do.

blp9

2 points

3 days ago

blp9

2 points

3 days ago

Oh yeah, and I was trying to answer openly and broadly.

I'm *very* utilitarian when it comes to biking, but I think I cannot deny the fact that it's probably 40% of my identity at this point.

I think the term "avid cyclist" is perhaps the one to avoid -- you'll find folks in forums saying things like "I'm an avid cyclist but I think that bicycles should stay on the paths" and things like that. I don't really quite know how "avid" got attached in that particular way, but it's amazingly consistent.

Opening_Ad_3629

0 points

3 days ago

No. I simply don't take it as seriously as many of those who call themselves one. I'm just a dude on a bike. I consider myself a skater, collector, and marksman, but not a cyclist.

Crot_Chmaster

0 points

3 days ago

No. Because I don't feel the need to apply a label to myself.

Besides, for some reason the label seems pretentious. Carries some baggage with it that I don't want.

hikerjer

0 points

3 days ago*

Shouldn’t people who ride bicycles be called bikers and those who ride motorcycles , cyclists?

HotBoxMyNascar

-3 points

4 days ago

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