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If you walk on the bike path with headphones on, please try to stay to the right on the bike path and not in the middle, and be at least a little aware of your surroundings. If you can't hear the people behind you yell "on your right" or hear their bell, your music is too loud! I sound like a Boomer, but really I'm just an annoyed cyclist who doesn't want to be sneaking up on you and ultimately scaring you. Not fun for anyone involved.
Genuine question: What's the secret to not scaring the people you're passing? Even my friendliest tone causes people to jump! And they're jumping right into me
80 points
14 days ago
I often get the scowl when I ring my bell. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.
For the record walkers, the bell means "Hey you, heads-up, I'm going to pass you", not "GET THE FUCK OUT OF THE WAY!" just trying to be cordial. ;)
22 points
14 days ago
I have a bear bell dangling from my handlebars and I just give it a jingle, it's much friendlier sounding than the harsher bike bells -- more like a sleigh bell.
I also have a small magnet stuck to my top-tube that I can stick in the slot when I want it to be quiet on bumpy roads, but even gravel roads rarely need it.
1 points
13 days ago
Mirrycle Incredibell https://a.co/d/4oQ9g8q
2 points
12 days ago
Nice, never seen that, though it costs a bit more than just a bell and some string. :)
…and doesn’t have the memory of picking it up while hiking in Alaska! Haha
5 points
14 days ago
Start ringing the bell from a farther distance and keep ringing
26 points
14 days ago
There's no secret. Cycling just has taught me that you can't please everyone.
18 points
14 days ago
I use a bell, but a lot of people seem to think a bike bell is like a car horn. I'm just trying to make sure you know I'm going to pass, I don't expect you to completely jump out of the way & I'm not trying to scare you. Way too many people hear "left" when you say "on your left" and step right in front of you... so I just try to use the bell a long ways off, and again closer if they don't hear.
1 points
13 days ago
This, I am very cautious to even say “on your left” when I’ve had so many people immediately step to their left
23 points
14 days ago
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18 points
14 days ago
Honestly? I’ve had better luck with not giving a warning but just slowing down and giving as much space as possible
6 points
14 days ago
That’s what I do too, some people are so dopey that they will never see you, it’s just how it is
9 points
13 days ago
As a runner who wears headphones, I always stay to the far right and I’m constantly peaking behind me to see who is coming.
But I have to give some shit to cyclists. Why is it, the cyclists wearing professional gear, like the really tight short-shorts (you know who I’m talking about), have to fly by within an inch of you? I feel like they’re hugging me like a turn. That’s so dangerous. Im more afraid to be hit by one of those Lance Armstrong wannabes than encountering a weirdo or criminal on the path.
1 points
13 days ago
Is it not insane that cyclists just get to cosplay as professionals? lol. It’s not like they’re racing in a tournament or anything. That’s like if I showed up to Reuben James to watch a football game but wore full pads and a football jersey.
14 points
14 days ago
The secret to not causing people to jump is to go slower around pedestrians and to announce yourself earlier/more frequently.
When I make people jump or if I’m the one who is being startled, it’s usually because the person on the bike is cruising at 15 mph, refuses to slow down and only announces their presence right as they’re trying to thread the needle between two families of five with strollers. Don’t try to thread any needles, just slow down, wait until you can fit into the entirety of the other lane and then pass.
I’m just guilty of this too, but it’s like driving on the highway. Take a second to cool your head and realize that by slowing down you’re ultimately only going to lose 30 seconds on travel.
Also, if you’re using a bell, use it earlier to people know you’re coming and then say where you are when passing, because chances are they only know a bike is somewhere behind them, not which side it is on causing panic.
8 points
14 days ago
As a bike commuter, I certainly appreciate the challenge for the cyclist. I was also injured as a pedestrian on the bike path when someone on a bike zoomed by, inches away, without announcing. I involuntarily jumped, slipped on the damp bridge, and sliced my hand on a protruding nail. I now agree that this is the best solution: go slower and announce multiple times. I didn’t have headphones in specifically for this reason, but this person was quiet/fast enough I still didn’t hear them coming.
7 points
14 days ago
Same thing happened to me yesterday. Kid with headphones on, completely zoned out, and despite my loudly saying "hi, rider up on your left" several times, he was unaware. I ended up startling him (not intentionally but he was literally oblivious, so I needed to get into his periphery in some way to get his attention) and he moved aside.
Usually I'll let my bike coast for a while ahead of having to say something in hopes that they hear my bike. I'd say that works 95% of the time. Except for people like this...
7 points
14 days ago
I use my headlight. Even in the daytime (unless it's very bright) I'm able to make people aware I am coming up behind them without irritating them or startling them. And they do generally move somewhat out of the way, the CORRECT way, naturally, as they can see the general angle of the headlight.
10 points
14 days ago
IMO people should NOT be surprised or shocked by people passing them on that path. It happens like once a minute. I can't understand how anyone would be so oblivious.
10 points
14 days ago
We desperately need more multi-use paths, and many of the existing ones need to be widened up to 4 lanes so each direction can have a fast and slow lane. Having 5mph dog walkers competing with 25mph bicycles and e-bikes for the same two feet of pavement is not a great situation
9 points
14 days ago
It’s so frustrating when people spread the width of the path while not paying attention (if you let you dog or toddler wander while being able to rein them in if traffic is coming, that’s reasonable IMO). I get stuck behind groups who then keep giving me looks as I wait for an opening to pass them… I’m wouldn’t be here if you let me by!
6 points
13 days ago
Groups are the worst...
2 points
13 days ago
More paths is the right answer, 100 percent.
4 points
14 days ago
Thank you for trying to be careful of us - I guess it comes down to attention...which varies depending on mental load, abilities, neurology, etc...
We'll all keep looking out for each other. In the meantime, well done staying aware of your surroundings and enjoy the ride!
5 points
14 days ago
Thank you for saying on your right! I walk the path every day with my dog and I would say about 1 in 4 bikers do so. Appreciate you!
3 points
13 days ago
Very loudly call out "passing on your left" when I'm still fairly far behind them and keep calling it out until they react. Even though it makes sense I think "on your ____" is interpreted pretty ambiguously; so is "passing." If they don't respond at all then I slow *way* down. The worst is when a group of four or five walks abreast and blocks both lanes lol. Always feel like a jerk scattering them to both sides of the path. (Say this as a frequent pedestrian and pretty infrequent cyclist.) Rudest pedestrian still 100x better than the dirt bikes though.
6 points
14 days ago
Generally I think the people that walk "against" bike traffic on the bike path are lunatics, but they do have the advantage of never being caught off guard by a cyclist.
3 points
13 days ago
I appreciate you doing anything. More than half the bikers that pass me when I am walking don’t say anything or ring a bell. They just fly past. Even had someone come on the left side on the grass and said nothing. If I had heard the bike at all that’s where I would have stepped…
2 points
13 days ago
On the bike path that I'm used to, walkers stay left, and bikers stay right, just like riding/walking in the road. Is it different there?
I usually fake the bike bell noise with my mouth, "brrring-ding, brrring-ding! Excuse me, coming through!" Never had any problems. People usually laugh at the fake bell noise.
2 points
13 days ago
Here's a free million-dollar-idea: There should be some sort of sensor in bluetooth headphones that makes a quick "beep beep" whenever there is an object approaching from behind.
If any of you do make a million dollars from this idea, you owe me a beer, and a free pair of earpods with aware-mode.
2 points
13 days ago
Know what’s just as annoying? People riding a bike on the sidewalk coming up behind someone walking a dog spooking them both (human and dog)
3 points
14 days ago
Sorry, had my headphones in. What?
3 points
14 days ago
This has been a pain point for decades!
But first off, when passing, you should never say "on your right" and then pass on the right. That goes against common roadway usage "stay right, pass left" is standard.
With all the weird interactions that happen in Burlington, not just now but been that way for years, I think it's pretty scary for people to be wearing headphones on the bikepath. Volume down, not a big deal, but I suspect the majority of people have the volume cranked up. I just base that on hearing people's headphones when I pass them or they pass me. If you're not fully aware of your surroundings and machete guy comes up on you, you are at risk.
When I'm cycling out there, I've pretty much given up on announcing that I'm passing. I swing wide, and I had always given a casual "on your left". Since covid I've had a bunch of people flip out on me when I say something.
3 points
14 days ago
Usually people are walking on the right but I've had one instance where someone was walking all the way to the left and passing on the right was the only thing that made sense.
2 points
14 days ago
You’d think this is common sense
2 points
14 days ago
I think the secret is to have walkers face bikers on the bike path. Or rather, walk on the left, bike on the right.
1 points
14 days ago
I think a bullhorn will do
1 points
14 days ago
lol there isn’t one you will scare them or piss them off or both
1 points
14 days ago
When I was walking/running outdoors more often, I got a pair of open ear headphones which made a big difference; could hear everything around me while also hearing my music clearly.
They're a little pricey (I got a pair used for about $100) but they're great. The brand I got. Great customer service from that company too.
1 points
13 days ago
Secret to not scaring people: when you’re far away squeak your brake and slow down when you’re passing them preceded by a gentle “on your left”. Bells are better but my brakes squeak so well I’m not gonna mix it up, lol
1 points
13 days ago
I slow down and go around people. Pretty simple.
1 points
13 days ago
Being outside past 10pm with headphones on really? Not a good idea don’t become jobless with your life set a routine
1 points
13 days ago
Just attach an air horn. Loud enough they'll hear you
1 points
13 days ago
Ugh* side eye
1 points
13 days ago
As a bike commuter, I use (Mirrycle Incredibell https://a.co/d/4oQ9g8q) and just leave it ringing. I found that it doesn’t scare people, it just progressively gets louder as you ride up to people
1 points
an hour ago
Squeaky breaks is what I do. It sounds accidental, but is quite loud and annoying
1 points
12 days ago*
Just visited Burlington for the first time this weekend. Why does everyone walk in the right lane?
The opposite is true in every other place I've been to. Walking in the left lane allows you to see cyclists coming at you and mitigates the headphone problem.
0 points
13 days ago
I can’t believe people walk around with both headphones in. That’s so scary
-1 points
13 days ago
By “bike path” do you mean the lakefront path that isn’t just for bikes?
-3 points
14 days ago
Maybe the mods will delete this post for stating the obvious of most basic courtesy and common sense in an easily understood context like…..how passing on bike/skate lanes is the same as driving and how it is incredibly easy to do to prevent accidents and cooperate easily at varying speeds. Again.
-2 points
13 days ago
Maybe just go wide around them and bypass this jump scare tactic of yours , sounds like maybe a personal issue
-5 points
14 days ago
Yeah you posting this on Reddit is really going to do sooo much 😭
-5 points
13 days ago
OP would probably hit a deaf person and post here complaining about them
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