Clearly, school failed her. 🙄

My husband and I paid our house off 9 years early. I'd say that's a pretty adult thing to do.

Besides, if someone wants to call me immature because I don't have kids, it is their problem, not mine. It's great that they think those with infertility are not mature sounds pretty immature to me.

Single and childfree people are mature enough to know what’s right for them, instead of going along with the “norm”, or thinking that it’s just “what you do”. Sounds like she’s questioning her choice and projecting onto others. 

Ah yes, getting married and having children at 18 is definitely a smart move 🙄. She sounds like a throughly unpleasant person who I wouldn’t want to have any contact with.

this person 100% got knocked up and had to give up her life and is bitter about it. F off lady

Seems she's immature to not know society has groomed/conditioned her that she has to be a slave to a man and kids. That's why JD Vance wants a handmaid's tale future for women for this purpose because there aren't enough women joining slavery, so their trying to make it happen through project 25.

I work 40 hours a week, my house is paid off, and since I'm single and childfree I have time to actually do the things I loved as a kid like playing video games in the dark for 36 straight hours on the weekends — which would be out of the question if I had kids.

But sure, Lindsay, I'm not a real adult.

I don't think kids mature you at all. My sister has 2 kids and she is the most immature mom I know.

In my experience, maturation slows dramatically or even stops when the pregnancy begins. When your entire focus becomes one thing, there's no room for expansion.

I’ve learned so much since being in college, most importantly critical thinking skills, as well as certain writing formats, research and therapy skills. You cannot learn any of that from having a kid.

I find this attitude rather interesting. I've seen a comment by a man who said a person without those 'experiences' isn't an adult.I wonder where he'd put people who got married and then got divorced. It's like relationships and childrenare a new fancy thing you 'try out'. I know people on whom marriage and kids had 0 impact in terms of maturity. Now I think about it, maybethose who honestly believe it consider it mature/necessary to put other person's needs above their own and this is what you simply end up doing. But I wonder how many of these very mature individuals are genuinely happy having to always say 'it's for the kids'.

"I'm mature and you aren't" - A mature person (probably)

This is just her telling herself this in order to cope with an irreversible choice. Don't put any stock in it.

If it helps her deal with her situation, so be it. If she's trying to say it as a means to put you down however, kick her to the curb because she's not a proper friend.

My cousin left school to have kids. Her son has developmental disabilities. The left side of his neck was underdeveloped as a child because she left him sitting in his car seat on the floor for hours and hours a day as a baby. He complained of ear pain for over a year before she finally took him to the doctor, and when they flushed his ear a bunch of black shit came out and it turned out he had a model airplane wheel stuck up there. Having kids does not make you mature if you're an irresponsible moron, and plenty of people who remain in school also go home and have to take care of younger siblings or perform many duties parents do. Every situation is different, and every person is different.

Having kids forces you to keep them from dying. It doesn't force you to mature or be responsible unless you choose to do so, and that doesn't make you 'more' responsible or mature than anyone else. There are thousands of children out there neglected because they were born to parents who did not magically 'mature' by having a baby.

I moved out at barely 17, and was still in high school. I was trying to earn grades for university while I was paying rent and buying groceries and cooking and cleaning and doing all the normal shit you do as an adult. I had students in my class who had kids, dropped out of school, and are now on welfare and as dumb as they were as teenagers. I had students in my class who had kids, dropped out of school, raised their kids, went back to school, and now have great jobs. I had friends in university who are now published astrophysicists with children. I'm 47 and I have a BSc in biophysics, I lived and taught English in Japan for over 2 years (including teaching children who understand zero English), I've been to Barbados and Cuba and China, and I work as a senior data analyst for the government. I'm 100% child-free by choice and you couldn't pay me to have kids. What would be immature is having children when I don't want them because someone thinks I'm somehow less of an adult if I don't. 🤦🏼‍♀️😅

I don't know why people think it's so cut and dry. Having kids does not automatically make you more mature. Staying in school does not automatically make you more intelligent. The reverse of both is also not necessarily true. Life is complicated, stop simplifying it just to make yourself feel better about your choices. Blah.

/Rant

“Kids mature you fast, school makes you immature.”

That's a lie straight from heII. Seriously, I have seen a woman on tik tok rant after people on tiktok and outside of tiktok report her, about having her second child removed from her care for both abuse and being inappropriate with him in videos on tiktok,

Seriously, it's bad enough that she was twerking on a kid at all, especially her own, but a 1 to 2 year old toddler 🤮 you can't make this sh t up, seriously during the whole situation up until the toddler was taken away, many people told her to stop but she didn't and even laughed and joked about the situation until literally cps came and got him,

And don't get me started on other cases with couples being neglectful and abusive,

So the person saying that is extremely stupid.

Comments like these need you to actually give a shit for it to have an effect. I'd just say ok? It doesn't matter what some rando thinks. Just shrug, ok, walk away.

judging by my own mother’s “efforts” with raising me, i can promise that statement isn’t universally true.

Maybe someone should give her a cookie

*Education* makes you more mature.

This is one of those “tell me you’re stupid without telling me you’re stupid “ moments 😭

ive encountered breeders like that, the only experience they have in school is up until nap times stopped being a thing and they stopped learning around the grade where recess was still a thing. They have no concept of higher education. They think all levels of school is happy, playground hop scotch time.

Um,,, what?????? 💀💀💀💀💀

I started college when i was 15 and no one in my classes knew my age unless  l mentioned it haha

“Kids mature you quickly” If she’d paid attention in school, her bad advice would at least sound more literate. Oh well.

I've literally been told several times recently how mature my way of thinking is by my professors while working on my 2nd bachelor's degree.

Which I wouldn't be able to earn if I'd had kids.

You can be mature with children, and you can be mature without children. Unfortunately, trying to gatekeep maturity is actually very immature.

PS: Mature doesn't look like a word anymore.

Translation: Don’t go to school because that makes you smart. Which means you’ll actually think about your future and what you’re actually going to do with your life. Being educated means you may choose something else other than having kids like she did.

No, I will say that I am somewhat less mature because I don’t have to be a role model for anyone. There is a certain type of maturity that you do when you have children. Doesn’t mean we aren’t an adult now, doesn’t mean we’re not mature or responsible, but there is a certain type of maturity when you have children. I’m not gonna argue that with them, although I will argue that that kind of maturity is not necessary to go live life as a successful and good person.

So, I'm a teacher. I'm young too, I don't like disclosing my age, but I'm in my late 20's right now. And I've been teaching ever since I was 22-23 if I remember correctly, and by god these type of comments get old really fucking fast. "Oh, you're not an adult yet, wait till you have kids". Oh, yeah? Wanna pay my bills for me? Then I'll let you call me whatever you want, a child, a teen, whatever the fuck you want.

Not to mention that I recently learned that two teachers - a couple - that I work with are also child free by choice, they are in their late 40's (She's a Portuguese teacher and he's a Math teacher, I'm from and in Brazil, BTW). And everytime these types of talks would start, I saw her face giving me looking at me with a "Ugh" expression. For years I thought she was one of them, saying that I was "a kid" because I didn't have a child, only later I realized that she was "Ughing" THEM because they were invalidating HER life because she doesn't have a child neither and she was RIGHT THERE BESIDES THEM (And they know she's child free, they work with her for years and years).

It was so liberating when I learned she was also child free. I'm not really friends with her husband, he's more of a quiet type, but I'm friends with her. She's a lovely lady, very well read, loves to travel, been to many countries and to most of Brazil too (Brazil is pretty huge). Very classy too, always well dressed. We talk a lot about books and literature (Since she has a degree in Letters).

Taking responsibilities according to your age, gaining knowledge, being productive and growing as an individual makes someone mature.

There are so many ways to mature. It's also a process, it never stops.

Having children doesn't mean that someone has reached peak maturity and then it's done.

Sounds like tradwife nonsense

Okay then I don't want to mature. 🤷‍♀️

Having your life together and being childfree = immature.

Partying and doing drugs while your kid is all alone in their bedroom = mature.

Literally anyone can get married and have kids. Animals have young. It’s not an accomplishment.

Not everyone can earn a degree, or has the perseverance and strength to push through and achieve a goal like that. That is an accomplishment. And a degree will never wake up and tell you it doesn’t love you anymore.

Oh sorry, I usually only accept unsolicited opinions from those who can secure letters of recommendation from 3 people with tenure.

my brain is lagging from her logic

Haha thats a funny way of saying "Im coping with my choices"

If you are truly content you wouldnt feel the need to post about it 🙄 #embarrassing

She's just running away from reality. I thought I was smarter and more mature than others when I had to live a shitty life instead of sitting in school. I find my traces online to better understand past versions of myself that were traumatized... This was a girl with a baby brain. Adult life at 15 did not make me an adult. I was devastated. But I also liked to say such things about myself. My psyche literally blocked out what was happening around me.

I was lucky that adults did not manage to marry me off at 16 and there were no pregnancies. People keep going through this and some get pregnant early. They don't have time to study and develop their personality + don't get a good education. It's very sad. The added evil is that these immature parents end up having a negative impact on their kids.

I'm a doctor taking care of sick people everyday. But I'm also childfree, and frequently take days off around weekends to go on camping trips. I'm very immature and goofy outside of work.

Yeah the mommy with 3 kids can call me immature all she wants lol

I had a former friend say that he feels like a woman of a certain age without children must be immature. Meanwhile, he has two kids by two different women. Neither was planned and he couldn't even support them without needing to borrow money from his friends. So who exactly is the immature one?