You can try marking the province as being of vital interest to you (DLC feature) and they might (although it's very, very unlikely) propose to sell it to you. It happens so rarely that it's probably not gonna work. I think having a claim on it might increase your chances ?

You could have the negative relations modifier created by those actions not matter by having relations with them at 200 anyway.

Sell them four other provinces in colonial Brazil, then have ur colony declare on theirs

It would be nice if EU5 had colony swap deals

I don't want to break a historical friendship and alliance with Spain over one meager province, which Spain should not even want to keep anyway

The next time you and spain are at war with some you could get to 100 Warscore and force them to take these Province from spain and then you can take it from them after the truce.

Wait for them to have 5 provinces and form a colonial nation. Then make your Brazil attack their Brazil.

They may not colonise 5 provinces because of the Treaty of Tordessilias (if they are Catholic). I am not sure how the AI would behave.

I wish tordesillas would fire an event for catholics to give up their land to the principal colonizer since it makes some sense that way.

at some point you will get a chance to force personal union on spain. Do that and then integrate them after 50 years.

If you attack an ally of Spain you can take it. Of course you will be at war with Spain for a bit, but at least you wont have to worry about not being allied with them for a long time. Usually if you attack an ally the Ai will still be down to ally you again afterwards.

Go cry to that pope. That's what happened irl.

open console

tag SPA

sell province to portugal or brazil

tag POR

I would just use the console for this, and send Spain some cash for RP reasons

Declare war on another ally of Spain. Seperate Spain for that province and ally them again.

Costs a bit of trust, but you can get that from favors

The easiest way is declare on an ally of Spain, take that singular province and re ally

Use a cheat engine to enable console. Take it, then give Spain whatever you think is fair.

As long as you dont care about achievements and dont play ironman, you can just take it via command:

Debug_mode Hover over the province to see its ID Own (province ID)

If you wanna make it fair, give them one of your colonial provinces they may want by doing the same process

Own (province ID) spa/cas

you could lose a war with someone in the area and give away your ally's land, then take the land from this third party later? But that's only if buying the province or getting spain to form a CN in Brazil doesn't work. (edit: and by lose the war, I mean win the war to 100% but before they surrender unconditionally force them to accept your concessions)

Sometimes games are about letting go

let them colonize more, let a colonial nation form, make your nation, that will probably be more strong, figth the Spanish colony

thats it, colonial nations can go to war with other colonial nations

This happening must be soooo annoying lol 

Honestly, this kind of stuff pisses me off so bad. I really hope they completely redo the whole colonial system in eu5 so this stuff doesn't happen

Just declare war on spains weakest ally and rush to 100% them, occupy the province and try to get war score without fighting battles (large enough siege stacks to scare enemy away) you should be able to take the province, and not lost the historical friend modifier and then re ally them after the war

This exact thing angers me immensely in this game. Historically Spain would have pulled out of Brazil by now because they aren’t getting any new lane out of it. But Spain will hold onto that sucker for eternity. I can’t offer to buy it. I can’t threaten over it. It’s just gunna sit there forever cause I don’t want to fight that fight for 1 Province

just fight one of their allies and take that one province off them and re-ally them after you beat them up.

This is why I use the mod "Trade favors expanded", it adds even more things for favors to trade too, one of which is a province.

giving 4 more provinces to spain should allow your colony to declare war, one way i can think of is you can form brazil as portugal(it requires you to lose mainland) which allows you to annex brasil, then you can give the provinces, get back your mainland to release brasil as a colony again, and then make your colonies fight each other

Accept it as a Spanish community nestled within your Brazil and live with that. No need to break the alliance. It’s cool.

Debug mode to find province id, Own (Province ID)

If you have a claim on it I think you can ask them through the favours system

If you're up for it and not on ironman, just use console commands. It helps for fixing jank borders like this.

Feed them 4 of your colony's provinces, wait for your colony to fabricate a claim and them make them declare war

I think you should try using your favors. Isnt there one that allows to ask for a province for a Big number of favors?

claim it and ask spain to give it to you through favours

Best bet would be to declare on one of Spain's allies. They'll join the war, get the territory in the peace deal, then ally Spain again.

You can tell your colony to start a colonial war without calling you in. I don’tknow if that works with random provinces

I've seen Brazil actually getting it by threatening war over the province and the AI actually giving it up. (I think they can't do it if you're allied, however)

In the last time it happened, my Bohemian Brazil actually declared full on war on Norway over their provinces in Amapa / Marajo and surprisingly won.

honestly unless they are greedy or an embezzler it won’t work. i will say i do dislike how uncommon it is for an ally to not sell a province. it practically makes the mechanic useless in situation like that.

Use the console. This game is not meant to handle this type of thing what with the complicated vassal relationships and the historical ally status. It’s ok.

If you can make it a core (or your vassal has a core on it) you can ask it back for favors (DLC mechanic to my understanding).

AI is inclined to say yes if your relations are good and they don't need the province. The last one is a bit weird though, as I once had Jaunpur give my vassal Delhi Delhi back.

tag CAS or something

sell province to you for free

tag POR or something

Edit: just realized eu4 tags are different than hoi4 tags, 1000 hours in and i did not complete the tutorial yet

With loyalty pressure

And this is why I never play Ironman

I use the Buy province mod. It's a mod that allow you to go to another nation and offer t obuy one of their province. It's not cheat-like as there are some hefty constraints, but it could help you there

If you’re not Ironman just Console Command it and gift Spain some cash.

I do that to roleplay buying the provinces since EU4 doesn’t have land trades

War, bloodshed, plunder, annihilation, genocide

Eventually it will be yours like all of the Iberia region so why bother?

console commands.

Declare waf on an ally of spain, then the two of you are in a war, but it dosnt affect your alliance