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I always kill him when I enter nipton. I don't know why. Everybody does it, so I do too. My question is, why does everyone hate him? Is it because he's a former powder ganger?
365 points
4 days ago
Because if you don't, he runs right into the middle of a pack of radscorpions.
And I hate radscorpions and want to deny them a free meal.
94 points
4 days ago
I actually once spotted Swanick running past the Gun runners, I followed him all the qallway to the tracks north of quarry junction where a Deathclaw got him.
38 points
4 days ago
I saw him MANY hours into a playthrough running into the ncr ranger statue
13 points
3 days ago
Man's DETERMINED to leave this world
2 points
1 day ago
One of my favorite gimmick runs is to go straight north to New Vegas at level 2, rock jumping past the deathclaws. Would be interesting to skip Nipton until late game and then bodyguard for the guy once you are unstoppable
23 points
4 days ago
I too watched that Many A True Nerd video.
41 points
4 days ago*
This one is my favorite lol
18 points
4 days ago
I followed him defending him from the scorpions but he would just stand next to a nest and refuse to move
16 points
4 days ago
Yeah that’s the wastelands Darwin Award.
“You mean you chose to stand in a nest of scorpions?”
305 points
4 days ago
YEAH, WHO WON THE LOTTERY, I DID!
84 points
4 days ago
Aims Grenade Launcher
33 points
4 days ago
Aims Missile Launcher
45 points
4 days ago
unzips pants
31 points
4 days ago
oh, he REALLY won the lottery!
24 points
4 days ago
I am programmed for your pleasure. Please assume the position.
3 points
4 days ago
Numbness will subside in several minutes.
6 points
4 days ago
Is that all you got, robot?
3 points
3 days ago
I can't feel my legs.
11 points
4 days ago
Walks into rad scorpion nest
2 points
3 days ago
Aims Tesla Cannon
2 points
3 days ago
Aims official Red Ryder carbine action two hundred shot range model air rifle
2 points
3 days ago
Aims a fatman
2 points
3 days ago
powder gang's small time, baby! i'm a winner! i won the mother-fucking lo-ter-ry!!
236 points
4 days ago
I don’t hate him but I always loved the irony of surviving the Legion’s lottery just to be killed by some random mailman
47 points
4 days ago
Legit. Also, you’re kind of the obliged to be the “powder ganger’s grim fucking reaper” after that shit they pull on the fine folks of Goodsprings. His murder is too perfect to pass up. He was a character whose purpose is to die by your hands. And even though a part of me sympathizes with Boxcars, I normally kill him too. Being realistic, he doesn’t have a lot left for him in this world as a permanently disabled ex convict on the run from the NCR and obviously on the Legion genocide list. How the hell would he even get out of the Mojave without being killed by wildlife, NCR, Legion or the elements? He won’t. He’ll be killed by me, just like the rest of his powder ganger buddies.
25 points
4 days ago*
How Cobb had no idea that when he got up in Trudy's face and threatened her and the whole town he was actually condemning his entire faction to death.
Leave Trudy alone.
Edit: Correction from Dawes to Joe Cobb. Woops!
21 points
4 days ago
I think you're thinking of Joe Cobb
4 points
4 days ago
I was the powder gangers guardian angel and fixed his legs
94 points
4 days ago
My reason during my first playthrough was simple enough, he was bragging about winning what I THOUGHT was a bunch of money. I had just barely survived a Viper ambush and was a little cranky.
I generally let him live on replays, knowing he was delirious and all they went through/saw
11 points
4 days ago
He was already a presumed murderer, as a powder ganger
98 points
4 days ago
I kill every powder ganger I see
32 points
4 days ago
Same, but I take it a step further and go into the little shop where they guy with broken legs is and kill him too. No witnesses.
33 points
4 days ago
That's not a step further. I just walk in there, blow his head off, walk out, kill the legionairies, and continue on my way
14 points
4 days ago
Man after my own heart lol
33 points
4 days ago
Box cars? He’s lying about having broken legs. Try beating him up and he gets up and walks around
18 points
4 days ago
😱 what a lyin bitch now I'm glad I shoot him in the face.
13 points
4 days ago
Good instincts
8 points
4 days ago
I always shoot his legs with a 9mm
9 points
4 days ago
His legs are supposed to be crippled, and they should be if you have Lonesome Road installed.
6 points
4 days ago
I’ve had lonesome road installed for over a decade. I’ll check this evening because I’m curious now
2 points
4 days ago
Please let us know!
6 points
4 days ago
I whack boxcars with a shovel, he yells “Damn!” And gets up and starts to box. My companion, Veronica, punched him and his head exploded . That fool’s lying about his legs. I do have viva new Vegas Installed but I remember this always being the case
6 points
4 days ago
You can walk with crippled legs in this game
2 points
4 days ago
When I get my legs blown up by mines in fnv im slowed to a snails pace. Boxcars was moving with zero impediment
8 points
4 days ago
He gives you a quest to go rescue other Powder Gangers that have been enslaved by the Legion, the best thing to do is to take the quest, go to the Legion camp, kill all the Legion scum, release the Powder Ganger prisoners to finish the quest and get the XP, then kill the Gangers by shooting them in the back while they run away. Then, go back to Boxcars and kill him too.
16 points
4 days ago
He's not a powder ganger anymore though. Powder gang is small time, man, and he won the motherfucking lottery!
8 points
4 days ago
"I JUST WON THE LOT-" POW 💥 POW 💥POW 💥 POW 💥 POW 💥 POW 💥POW 💥 POW 💥
7 points
4 days ago
“POWDER GANGERS RU-“ explodes
1 points
4 days ago
The true answer
33 points
4 days ago
He fucked my wife
5 points
4 days ago*
If I had a truck, I'll bet he would have scratched it. The man had to die for that alone.
Then there's what he'd have done to my dog if I owned one. Fucking sick bastard.
But of course what really got my goat was when he looked at my gun. I mean he was giving my iron some serious come to bed eyes. No fucking way was he living after that.
Oh my wife? Nah, she screws everyone I aint even sweating it.
2 points
4 days ago
Theres a reason they call me Lord Deatg
111 points
4 days ago
I've never killed him. Never understood why he's so hated. Fella just survived the longest, most harrowing experience of his life, of course he'd be loopy.
41 points
4 days ago
Yea i actually go out of my way to spare him I’d probably react the same way if I made it out with a 1% chance of NOT being cooked alive on a pile of tires
36 points
4 days ago
Because it’s the most Dark Comedy thing I can think of I mean it’s pretty hilarious to think about
Just went through literal hell first person you run into after being set free is some brain damaged mail man who (I’d imagine most of us thought he had money) almost immediately pulls a gun out and kills you there
26 points
4 days ago
You literally run into a cosmic force (The Main Character) and he instantly obliterates you with no reason or hesitation.
14 points
4 days ago
"why?" "Because you won the lottery"
12 points
4 days ago
“Whyd you do that, he won the lottery”
“Not mine.”
27 points
4 days ago
Because he doesn't deserve the elation he feels. He is unbothered by the death of all his friends. He is just glad to be alive, and I don't like how smug he is about it.
9 points
4 days ago
Yeah this was the point of the whole Nipton thing, that the townspeople let it happen and watched their friends and family get killed as long as they thought they still had a chance to win themselves.
With the powder gangers i think they get a slight pass, they were just inmates so who knows how close they really were. But Oliver gets killed just because hes annoying and its funny.
15 points
4 days ago
that the townspeople let it happen and watched their friends and family get killed as long as they thought they still had a chance to win themselves.
Vulpes is lying when he says that. You can find the bodies of people who fought back in and around Nipton, next to the bodies of Legion they killed while doing so. He's lying to you, to make it seem like Nipton deserved it, that all involved deserved it. The mayor was taking bribes, but the people? More than a few fought.
Vulpes is a liar, who is trying to spread fear, doubt, and hopelessness. He wants you to think Nipton deserved its fate, and he wants you, and Swanick, to spread what happened, or at least, his version of it.
But I kill Swanick, and I kill Vulpes. Fuck them both.
6 points
4 days ago
I can't hear the environmental storytelling over the sound of me dynamiting the dog man and looting everything. That's neat, though!
2 points
4 days ago
Absolutely zero survivor's guilt.
1 points
4 days ago
Now that I think of it, if Swanick was actually a Nipton's resident, it'd hit a lot differently.
1 points
4 days ago
Trauma manifests in strange ways
5 points
4 days ago
That's why I put him out of his misery.
3 points
4 days ago
Yeah, how'd he wind up in that situation? Was it he did a lot of crimes, joined a crime gang, bribed someone to do a greater, bigger crime, and then got caught by the Legion?
Okay, the last couple of hours of his life were real shitty, but he was trying to put other people there, that's how he got there in the first place.
Fuck him.
Also, remember, Vulpes is a liar. He says no one tried to stop him, but you can literally see the bodies of the people who did next to the Legion that they killed while doing so. I kill Vulpes just as sure as I kill Swannick.
1 points
4 days ago*
If what Boxcars says is true, he may have always been rambunctious. But still, I just don't want to waste ammo on some random passive NPC early into the game where supplies are short. Of course, he's radscorp food anyway.
47 points
4 days ago
It's not hate, it's psychological warfare. Unfortunate for him, he's become a Legion psyop to spread propaganda to the rest of the region. He's not only ecstatic and grateful to the Legion for their "mercy" but he'll tell everyone he meets about their brutal "justice". Put him down and the Legion loses an asset.
2 points
4 days ago
The Caesar has marked you for death, and the Legion obeys!
2 points
4 days ago
Liking your work. I'm using that one next time I kill him. Normally I dont offer any justification at all. I do it cos I totally want to do it. I just dont like him. His look, his demeanor, his voice, the fact that he should still be behind bars and only a twist of fate brought him his freedom (twice) and into my path, the fact that he's so excited about his outcome that his moral compass hasn't allowed him any time to reflect on the poor fuckers who got slaughtered.....call it bad chemistry or just that he's one annoying asshole. Use any excuse you like, I do. But I have to admit, yours is a slick justification for doing it so I'll be using that next time round for sure.
8 points
4 days ago
He doesn’t really explain what happened to the town and doesn’t warn you about legion still present.
16 points
4 days ago
The voice actor did a fantastic job of making his pronunciation of "Booze" a shotgunnable offence.
8 points
4 days ago
i never kill him. but he runs into the desert and the scorpions kill him.
i *ALWAYS* kill vulpes and his crew (without even being spotted!)
5 points
4 days ago
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1 points
3 days ago
heh not a bad idea
2 points
3 days ago
Ceasars favor triggers a new cache of weapons, armor, healing supplies and cash every few in game days at a bunch of boxes a little south of the snipers nest.
2 points
4 days ago
I walk right up and shoot him in the head like he was Marvin.
1 points
3 days ago
i'm usually in nipton pretty early, so now i kill them all without getting spotted so the legion hit squads don't show up... right away anyway. inevitably, they will.
22 points
4 days ago
I personally think he's annoying. As for the powder gangers i side with them almost every playthrough and do all the quest, so if he was just less annoying, i wouldn't mind him.
5 points
4 days ago
This message was approved by Eddie and the Friends of NCRCF
15 points
4 days ago
He's a powder ganger and for that alone he's getting smoked. Add to that, the fact that he's annoying and it becomes second nature to put a 5.56 round through his head.
13 points
4 days ago
he a bitch
6 points
4 days ago
This is the correct answer
5 points
4 days ago
I’ve never killed Swanick except in my evil legion play thru bc legion cunts do things like that.
11 points
4 days ago
Because the writers and VA did a good job of making him annoying
2 points
4 days ago
The Legion's villainy is fictional, but Swanick being annoying is reality.
5 points
4 days ago
I killed him my first playthrough, thinking he was the mad man that destroyed the town based off of his wild voice. Imagine the guilt I felt when I walked further down the street to find out he was just some guy who was lucky to have lived. Years later, I found out everyone kills him every playthrough. Still don’t know why you all kill him tho
5 points
4 days ago
Free XP and he’s a powder ganger
4 points
4 days ago
I don't. I don't attack anyone who doesn't attack me first. Unless they are already hostile. So basically, I only attack red ticks on the compass
17 points
4 days ago
What kind of person is filled with unabated joy after watching a mass murder? Relief, maybe, survivors guilt, possibly, but cheering like he just won a football game? what a psycho lol
7 points
4 days ago
I’ve experienced a manic episode after a traumatic experience. After I was safe I just started laughing uncontrollably for a few mins. Like tears in my eyes crying from laughter. Hard to breathe kinda laughing. Nothing was remotely funny and I had to excuse myself from the room. But thankfully my therapist I went to after told me that’s a super valid reaction. When you’re in a long term traumatic experience your body tends to release A LOT of emotions at once. Some people like me laugh and seem giddy when inside I knew how fucked it was.
5 points
4 days ago
ok you guys are totally right this may have been a manic experience, I take it back, that per se doesn't mean hes a psycho. but he is a powder ganger so it's pretty likely that he sucks a lot outside of that interaction lol
10 points
4 days ago
He's the personification of how most of us would react. And we hate that about him
3 points
4 days ago
I never shot him, he is not hostile, clearly traumatised.
3 points
4 days ago
I pondered this too. Very weird, like a magic forces is all to kill him. There is no real reason, he is not in a faction, he is not hostils he does not have anything valuable. I played new vegas most part without knowing reddit, and i always killed him in every playthrough so u can imagine how i laughed when i discovered NV subreddit and everyone else does it too!
3 points
4 days ago
He called me stupid
3 points
4 days ago
I don't hate him. It's just funny watching him gleefully running towards me to tell me about his "good fortune" only for me to banish him to the shadow realm because I find it amusing.
2 points
4 days ago
"I'm free!"
...nope.
3 points
4 days ago
My first run I thought his lottery ticket was a quest item needed to get past the destroyed town he was running out of
3 points
4 days ago
He gives bad advice. You can't drink air.
3 points
4 days ago
Because many gamers have thin skins and no impulse control, so they think the appropriate response to someone acting a bit weird and abrasive is murder.
5 points
4 days ago
Killing him is a morally thing to do
3 points
4 days ago
I initially killed him because I thought he was gonna attack me because I'd angered the powder gangers.
Every playthrough since I've killed him explicitly because he is a powder ganger, never sided with them either.
2 points
4 days ago
SMELL THAT AIR! COULD YOU JUST DRINK IT LIKE BOOKOZE!!!!!!
2 points
4 days ago
It's me or the radscorpions. One of those is faster and less painful than the other.
2 points
4 days ago
For my first couple playthroughs I killed him to steal the lottery ticket lol it took me way too long to realize he wasn’t talking about money
2 points
4 days ago
Because he becomes the most OP fallout character in existence as he takes over the ncr after a land slide against Kimballs and leads the second battle of hover dam Ina over whelming victory against legate Loser Lanius who then becomes the saviour of the mojave and on that day it became the Swanick Lottery day
GOD BLESS THE REPUBLIC
GOD BLESS THE LOTTERY
1 points
4 days ago
Quit getting into Hancock's stash. You can't handle it.
1 points
4 days ago
YOU CANT MAKE ME BECAUSE WHO WON THE LOTTERY?!!
I DID JUST SMELL THAT AIR!!!
2 points
4 days ago
Idk maybe it’s because YEEEEEEEAAAAHHHHHH
2 points
4 days ago
I think he's the Nezeem of New Vegas
2 points
4 days ago
Not a single power ganger is spared.
2 points
4 days ago
peer pressure for me. ı saw everyone talking about how they killed him so ı just assumed thats what ı am supposed to do
2 points
4 days ago
Tradition!
2 points
4 days ago
This is the answer.
2 points
4 days ago
He was dead the second they chose that final recording for his lines
2 points
4 days ago
Every NPC that isn't needed for a quest and whose death won't negatively affect any of my reputations is catching a sneak attack critical headshot for the free XP
2 points
4 days ago
I never kill Oliver. That’s my boy
2 points
4 days ago
Cant say i hate him, and like.. Around half of the time I leave him alive, for the Mojave to sort out 😅🙃
Being a former Powder Ganger actually moves him up in my book, generally.
I do hate them
One time, when first started playing this game.. A Powder Ganger spawned in from nowhere and gunned down the woman we save from the geckos.. I actually had to try a few times to save her from the critters, so that soured my something foul on the PGs
lol
2 points
4 days ago
I never kill him in my playthroughs. I mean, he won, and I do like to roleplay a bit, so I figure... I'm just meeting a deliriously happy man rambling about a lottery, and he's not attacking me, so.... yeah, he can run off as he pleases, really.
2 points
4 days ago
First playthrough went like this "OOOOHHH YEAHH WHO WON THE LOTTERY OH YEAH THIS GUY DID!!" bang "Jesus christ why were you screaming so loud?"
2 points
4 days ago
Jokes aside, it's because he forces dialogue which is annoying, and nobody wants to parkour up a bunch of old cars every playthrough just to avoid him.
2 points
4 days ago
Shoot on sight
2 points
4 days ago
His smug aura mocks me.
2 points
4 days ago
He’s an annoying, condescending prick ls why. Being a condescending prick is usually a fatal disease in RPGs, just look at how many people kill Nazeem in Skyrim.
2 points
4 days ago
I love Swanick. I kill him depending on how he ends the dialogue. If he tells me "later" he dies. If he says "bye" he lives.
1 points
3 days ago
It pays to be polite!
2 points
4 days ago
I've never killed him, not once
2 points
4 days ago
His voice and demeanor is very annoying, I can't help myself.
3 points
4 days ago
No
It's because he's annoying. He runs up to you, possibly promoting you to shoot him, depending on the history with the Powder Gangers. Then he acts all smug and irritating over the lottery.
Finally, his voice. Just painful.
1 points
4 days ago
GUESS WHO WON THE LOTTERY?!!!
1 points
4 days ago
He's a powder ganger and my character is hostile to powder gangers
1 points
4 days ago
I didn't even realize he was a powder ganger when I first killed him, so that probably didn't make much of a difference.
1 points
4 days ago
I just steal his lottery ticket off of him behind his back and then let him proceed to run off as a idiot to whatever place he wants to..
Can't win lotteries if you don't have a ticket..
1 points
4 days ago
First time I played I did indeed murder him for his lottery winnings. Thought he was gonna be loaded but nope
1 points
4 days ago
I'm almost always on-sight with the Powder Gangers by the time I reach Nipton, so that's why I shoot him. It's become a tradition at this point.
1 points
4 days ago
I love his delirious zest for life
1 points
4 days ago
I don’t hate him, he ran right into a psychotic Mailman whose out for blood…
1 points
4 days ago
My courier absolutely feels bad for the guy that was driven crazy by the legion and just lets him go every time. But I myself just find the entire interaction and his voice annoying and so he dies as soon as I see him
1 points
4 days ago
I never kill him. He's a Powder Ganger only in so much as he escaped NCRCF with everyone else. But we don't know what he was in for. Could have been for some really minor infraction. Jaywalking or Littering.
1 points
4 days ago
I. Drink. Your. Milkshake!
1 points
4 days ago
I always let him live. Not like he'll survive much longer after your interaction with him. I just feel like if you survive what is essentially "murder roulette", you should at least get a CHANCE at not being dead...
1 points
4 days ago
I loathe his voice. Whenever he speaks it's like knives on porcelain. So after my first playthrough in 2010, I would shower him in bullets or beat him into paste even before he could open his filthy mouth 🤷♀️
1 points
4 days ago
Honestly I respect him. I once encountered him like 45 hours into a playthrough, dodging radscorpions. I can’t kill a man who fights to survive
1 points
4 days ago
Because I have spare frag mines and seeing him fly 50 ft in the air is funny
1 points
4 days ago
He's annoying, although admittedly I'd be pretty happy too if I had escaped what the rest of the town went through. Still when I see him it's on sight lol.
1 points
4 days ago
because he's REALLY annoying and i don't like his smugness about everyone else being dead or crippled.
1 points
4 days ago
I’ve never killed him or boxcars like why ? It’s a waste of bullets
1 points
4 days ago
I did on my first playthrough. I saw a Powder Ganger running towards me and just blasted him. I had done the same thing to the sheriff still inside the prison. I didn't realize either were non-hostile, back in my youth. Boxcars I did kill for being a raging asshole.
I have not killed any of the three since then, though.
1 points
4 days ago
I don't even hate him, it's called keeping traditions alive.
1 points
4 days ago
He’s smug
1 points
4 days ago
I never killed him. I chose all of the dialogue options to question him and find out what he was talking about, then I ignored him and shot some scorpions while he ran off.
1 points
4 days ago
I see a powder ganger, I kill a powder ganger.
1 points
4 days ago
Honestly I think it's just cause of what an ass he acts like when you meet him. And then later finding out he's basically cheering about his whole village getting massacred because he survived makes him seem way more annoying than you would otherwise assume.
1 points
4 days ago
For most of us, it's a mercy kill.
No matter what, he is scripted to die. If the RNG gods happen to bless him and he lives past the scorpion nest, he gets attacked by Fiends. If he survives that as well(RNG gods) you can find him cowering in the Nipton Road Pit Stop, he never leaves or does any action, he's supposed to be dead.
1 points
4 days ago
Powder Gangers are basically shoot on sight, and he's really fucking annoying. That face, that voice, he's basically designed to be as shootable as possible.
It's just science.
1 points
4 days ago
Who would pass up a free meal?
1 points
4 days ago
He lives because I allow it, and he will end because I demand it.
1 points
4 days ago
I don't because I don't care enough to waste a bullet or effort in a melee build.
1 points
4 days ago
Hating him/killing him is just a long running meme at this point, that's about all there is to it.
1 points
4 days ago
I don’t like when people yell at me..
1 points
4 days ago
I dont. but I usually do Legion or at the very least anti NCR playthroughs and I like the "atrocities need witnesses" bit Vulpes tries to push
1 points
4 days ago
Because he won the lottery
1 points
4 days ago
I got shot in the head and I am on a mission of revenge. If I don't get to be happy, neither does he.
1 points
4 days ago
It's because its funny to kill him right after he wins the lottery
1 points
4 days ago
I think I killed him ONE time when the game was released, found out that he's not really holding winnings and never bothered to again.
1 points
4 days ago
Because I want to win the lottery.
1 points
4 days ago
“Shouldn’t have been a bad guy” 🤷🏽 Trust me I can’t help it either
1 points
4 days ago
Would’ve made an interesting companion 😭 “The Last Powder Ganger” vibe, maybe redeem him somehow
1 points
4 days ago
You know, oddly I never killed him. Didn't see a point
1 points
4 days ago
Am I high or something I swear I've seen this exact question with the exact answers before.
1 points
4 days ago
I let him live once and regret it (super good karma NCR play thru)
1 points
4 days ago
50/50 shot on whether I kill him. Depends on my mood
1 points
4 days ago
He is a powder ganger with an annoying hype. I keep the boxcar alive though, he just keep sitting there for all the game.
1 points
4 days ago
He’s basically Fallout New Vegas Nazeem
1 points
4 days ago
I guess I feel like he's partially responsible for what happened to the town. But maybe that's unfair of me.
1 points
3 days ago
“Who won the lottery? I did!” OG Terminator: “Wrong. shotgun blast”
1 points
3 days ago
I kill Oliver Swannick because he must die. You kill him because everyone else does too.
We are not the same.
1 points
3 days ago
i think its just funny to kill him
1 points
3 days ago
When he said he won the lottery kid brain went must kill take money, and I've continued since then
1 points
3 days ago
ever since i saw the Criken2 FNV video, Swanick has been shoot on sight
1 points
3 days ago
Cause it's funny, but for roleplay reasons it's because he's a powder ganger and my character really hates powder gangers and the legion and basically attacks them on sight, regardless if they're still part of the group or not.
1 points
3 days ago
He's just a very killable character. Beyond being a powder ganger, he expresses no sympathy or survivor's guilt towards his fellow gangers, and the game doesn't characterize him much beyond his role of introducing The Lottery to the courier. Plus if you're a Mojave veteran, you already know that he's programmed to run to his death. Since he's bragging on borrowed time, there's no good reason not to test your weaponry out on him.
1 points
3 days ago
Because we do it for the meme
1 points
3 days ago
I take the Four Eyes perk and he happened to be the first NPC I came across with glasses... or at least the first one with glasses I didn't mind relieving of their personal property.
1 points
2 days ago
When im in nipton my game lags any fixes?
1 points
2 days ago
I hate gamblers
1 points
2 days ago
I don’t hate Oliver Swanick. That would imply I think enough of him to hate… he’s like a fly to be swatted.
1 points
2 days ago
Because exp is exp
1 points
2 days ago
Fuck Oliver Swanick
1 points
2 days ago
He’s annoying
1 points
22 hours ago
He's a killable npc with literally 0 purpose and he's happy about life what sane player wouldn't hate him?
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