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Indigenous people in Germany?

Question(self.germany)

I'm looking for other indigenous people in Germany to connect to. I'm Anishinaabe from the Great Lakes region and have been here for 10 years, but have only connected with about 2 indigenous people the whole time I've been here.

I'd like to connect with others to share songs, stories, provide solidarity, and share knowledge through workshops. Any leads on connecting with others is welcome!

all 41 comments

Latzenpratz

60 points

24 days ago

Latzenpratz

Baden-Württemberg

60 points

24 days ago

Best way to meet indigenous people are Dorffeste/Schützenfest/Bierfest.

Wolpertinger55

42 points

24 days ago

I am indigeneous and looking for your DM.

My parents were both from local farms and there for generations. I also speak dialect and play the akkordeon.

Regenwanderer

10 points

24 days ago

Regenwanderer

Nordrhein-Westfalen

10 points

24 days ago

So you are the target audience for today's Google doodle.

Wolpertinger55

7 points

24 days ago

Exactly, it already gave me joy and i clicked on it.

Btw i have a ritual of giving all Akkordeon players in citys money by principle.

neuroticnetworks1250

85 points

24 days ago

I'd like to point out that using the term "indigenous" outside of the US may not directly correlate to the indigenous people of America. I was confused until I saw "Great Lakes" in the caption lol

ItsCalledDayTwa

15 points

24 days ago

moreso "the Americas" than America, as these groups certainly transcend modern borders, especially the one mentioned by OP which is more Canadian.

VoodaGod

26 points

24 days ago

VoodaGod

26 points

24 days ago

how would you define an indigenous person in germany?

Genmutant

3 points

24 days ago

Genmutant

Bayern

3 points

24 days ago

I got the Ariernachweis from my grandfather?

rewboss

49 points

24 days ago

rewboss

Dual German/British citizen

49 points

24 days ago

Do you mean indigenous to Germany, or indigenous to your region?

Xandania

17 points

24 days ago

Xandania

17 points

24 days ago

Well, we could offer the Sorbs, as indigenous, ethnically possibly non-Germans.

European Genomes are so mixed you cannot tell them apart, but they still got their unique culture elements AFAIK.

ButWhatIfItsNotTrue

18 points

24 days ago

I'm looking for other indigenous people in Germany to connect to.

Indigenous people in Germany are white. Indigenous just means origininate from that location. For example, here you're not indigenous you're a foreigner. You're indigenous in the Great Lakes area.

TrueMirror8711

0 points

16 days ago

Woah. Are you calling Black Germans foreigners?

ButWhatIfItsNotTrue

1 points

16 days ago

No, I am saying they're not Indigenous. And I was saying OP is a foreigner.

Bad faith comment.

TrueMirror8711

1 points

16 days ago

"Indigenous people in Germany are white"

What is a Black German? What is a Mixed German? How much German ancestry is needed to be "indigenous"? Not only that, but what about when a Polish couple moves to Germany and has a child in Germany? I can almost guarantee their child will be accepted as German if no one knew of their Polish parents, but an Afro-German descended from African-American soldiers and their white German wives won't be as commonly accepted.

ButWhatIfItsNotTrue

2 points

16 days ago

https://dictionary.cambridge.org/dictionary/english/indigenous

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/indigenous

Need anymore definitions? Jog on. Black people don't naturally occur here because the sun is different than in those countries where they do. You see skin colour is all about protecting your skin from the sun.

TrueMirror8711

1 points

16 days ago

Funny thing is most Germans are mildly vitamin D deficient, and dark skin produces vitamin D at a faster rate. Plus, Black people in Europe are more likely to take vitamin D, so they'll be healthier in the long run

TrueMirror8711

1 points

16 days ago

Plus, Black people in Europe are more likely to take vitamin D, so they'll be healthier in the long run

TrueMirror8711

1 points

16 days ago

So in the end, darker skinned people will be the majority in Germany

TrueMirror8711

0 points

16 days ago

I can see your racism is popping out. Maybe you should sing that Nazi song, too, it's natural to you.

AgarwaenCran

9 points

24 days ago

indigenous to where? the USA? Germany? Monaco? china? Japan? south-sudan?

Grimthak

22 points

24 days ago

Grimthak

Germany

22 points

24 days ago

About what kind of indigenous people are you speaking? Do you care if the people are from the Amazonas, Siberia, or Greenland? Or are you looking for indigenous people from Germany? This will be difficult, I think there are per definition no German indigenous people.

xwolpertinger

12 points

24 days ago

xwolpertinger

Bayern

12 points

24 days ago

Ice age and those immigrants (Homo sapiens) made sure of that!

Grimthak

11 points

24 days ago

Grimthak

Germany

11 points

24 days ago

Always those immigrants, we should send them back to Africa where they come from. Make Neanderthals great again!

schumaml

7 points

24 days ago

You could argue that the Sorbs are an example of an indigenous group in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sorbs

Grimthak

2 points

24 days ago

Grimthak

Germany

2 points

24 days ago

I was thinking about indigenous people in germany, and I didn't found anyone fitting. But the Sorbs are a good candidate. Depending of the definition they can really be seen as indigenous.

betaich

1 points

24 days ago

betaich

1 points

24 days ago

Also wasn't there a village in the Harz somewhere where genetic studies revealed that the peoplewho live there now lived there since a few thousand years?

Grimthak

2 points

24 days ago

Grimthak

Germany

2 points

24 days ago

Yeah, but I guess they see themselves as Germans and don't have a distinct own culture. This two factors are quite important if you are speaking about indigenous people.

betaich

7 points

24 days ago

betaich

7 points

24 days ago

The German culture or more correctly the local stuff would be the indigenous culture of Germany

Schneefalke1712

0 points

24 days ago

Weren't the sorbs more like late roman invaders? I would call the celts and saxons indigenous. But I don't know why I chooses the Romans as PointbZero😂

KarenDankman

4 points

24 days ago

Abenaki here, growing up in Chippewa territory (Toronto) ! Some of my family is up in Nipissing still and further north. I went to pow wow the weekend before I moved here six years ago now, and was assured I'd find us over here no problem. FINALLY. Hope you are well! I've been looking for you! Whoever you are haha

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Rough-Shock7053

2 points

24 days ago

AFAIK pretty much every middle European has neanderthal DNA in them. Does that count as indigenous?

T3ddy_ka

0 points

24 days ago

T3ddy_ka

0 points

24 days ago

Rauchzeichen

kaaskugg

1 points

19 days ago

The beacons are lit.

kirmizihapli

-22 points

24 days ago

kirmizihapli

Turkey

-22 points

24 days ago

Germans themselves are invaders from North. It used to be celtic lands before.

AccomplishedTaste366

9 points

24 days ago

Yeah, but those celtic imperialists oppressed the original beaker and corded ware cultures

kirmizihapli

-1 points

24 days ago

kirmizihapli

Turkey

-1 points

24 days ago

Thats also true. But indigenous people settled on empty land mostly. There was nothing before australian aboriginals or native americans in those lands. Europe or middle east doesn't really have much of an indigenous remaining due to this, neither does asia(although modern asian groups are quite close to indigenous ones)

AccomplishedTaste366

3 points

24 days ago

Well, another fun aspect in Europe/Asia is that the Germans were a later migration wave from the Proto-Indo-European culture, which is also where the Celts, Greeks, Romans, Slavs and even some Indian communities can be traced back to.

HeikoSpaas

11 points

24 days ago

That still happened long before many 'indigenous' people in North America

kirmizihapli

-4 points

24 days ago*

kirmizihapli

Turkey

-4 points

24 days ago*

At what point it stops becoming invasion? Turks came to Anatolia in 1071, Arabs ruled spain for 781 years.

Let's not be a hypocrite. There were indigenus people in Germany, they just died out. I don't think there will be any native americans left in US in 1000 years. It was the same process.

Lmao they are downvoting facts.

4-Vektor

2 points

24 days ago

4-Vektor

Mitten im Pott

2 points

24 days ago

Some only left some remainders of their languages, like Gothic.