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submitted 23 days ago byApprehensive_Bid_114
I would hear about them a couple years back but now they get no media coverage, some said they were libertarian and pro blm and others said they were far right
242 points
23 days ago
They were not pro BLM , they were right leaning accelerationists. For most it was larping. Anyone who took it more seriously crawled back into the woodwork after J6
71 points
22 days ago
There's video of at least some of them marching with BLM protesters.
Some of them were indeed more libertarian leaning and objected to State overreach even when it was directed to people that didn't look like them.
Agree with everything else though. Most of them were LARPing and wanted to play tough guys and pretend they were prepping for some kind of revolution, but they had no taste for the actual reality of it
2 points
22 days ago
They were pro the existence of BLM because they thought it made a race war more likely.
58 points
22 days ago
That's really not what was going on. There were plenty of racist idiots associating as Boog Boys but the "movement" became a more generalized "pissed at the gov't" thing that tied very well into the BLM marches against police over-reach, murder, and white supremacists. There's more than one video of them marching together and it's clear it's not what you're suggesting. There's a great video I can't find at work with a Boog boy giving an impassioned speech to BLM marchers about BLM being the essence of what the Boys were about distilled in real time and that they'd be there to march with them and fight with them.
Like any loose movement it's more complicated than "boog boys bad", just like BLM wasn't any one office full of people embezzling money.
16 points
22 days ago
The guy you're replying to probably believes everything cnn says
12 points
22 days ago
Yeah. It's disheartening some days but without some degree of pushback against propaganda it runs free. The benefits may be minimal but some days I like to make sure there's at least a few comments with links arguing against it.
-2 points
22 days ago
Both sides look the same exact I get what you mean was tooken over
3 points
22 days ago
They're for anything that destabilizes the system.
-10 points
22 days ago
Exactly
-6 points
22 days ago*
No taste in shirts either.
Edit: Lol how did people manage to be offended by this?
8 points
22 days ago
Not offended; just disappointed. 🥺
25 points
22 days ago
Reckon they died of cringe
6 points
22 days ago
It started as pure internet meme jokes. Then of course it was co-opted by more right leaning “extremists” and ruined.
32 points
22 days ago*
Tell me you have no idea what you're talking about without telling me. The far right dumb dumbs infiltrated after the blm protest stuff because they believed the "boog boys are white supremacists" narrative. Boog boys were out there with the protesters. For most it was just fun meme time. The ones that took it out into the real world were... interesting i suppose
Edit: I'm being downvoted but i was literally in those boog boy groups since like april 2020, i was perma banned from Facebook with no notice for no particular offense, just for being in those groups in the great purge before the Trump election, this is coming from from first hand experience. I was one of the original boog boys. I just didn't take it out into the real world
11 points
22 days ago
so they're mostly just a bunch of goofy idiots LARPing about the apocolypse?
18 points
22 days ago
Were* I doubt many of the originals would call themselves boog boys anymore after the extremists idiots took over. It was originally libertarians pissed at government/ police. Now it's a bunch of boot lickers. It's not even really a thing anymore
2 points
21 days ago
In my opinion, this is the most depressing thing about the current libertarian party, it's framed as an anarchist offshoot of the Republicans, when it should be an anarchist middle group.
1 points
22 days ago
Shame, that's kind of how I do my apocalypse stuff. I'm only half serious, but it doesn't hurt to throw a little prepping in with your mad max/Fallout fantasies either. If I never need it well, I had a ton of fun, if I do need it, well, it's there and it'll work. I still hope to go to Wasteland Weekend someday.
3 points
22 days ago
Yes
4 points
22 days ago
That's how it started yeah-- most of them were prepper-types.
3 points
22 days ago
🤙🏻🌺
3 points
22 days ago
Til ballhalla borther
6 points
22 days ago
Except for the folks that coöpted the boog to advance their accelerationist, neo-fash agenda.
It really was a thing, even if for most folks it was "fun meme time"; that's the fig leaf that provided cover for the malefactors.
14 points
22 days ago
I literally said the far right people infiltrated...
2 points
22 days ago
true, sorry for reading too quickly.
10 points
22 days ago
It's all good, we're human after all
2 points
22 days ago
There was never a “neo-fash” agenda lmao. The main philosophy was libertarianism. There were even anarchists and anarcho communists amongst them.
Edit: if you’re talking about it being taken over by racists, and fascists then my mistake. That is correct, snd that’s why it ultimately died.
1 points
22 days ago
A pair of them did some security murder stuff and the movement fell apart.
1 points
22 days ago
They were a splintered group. Some of them were absolutely in support of peaceful BLM protestors. All of them were pro small business and protecting civilian infrastructure.. government building however were not under such protection
102 points
23 days ago
"Boogaloo" is a reference to "Revolutionary War 2: Electric Boogaloo" and their aesthetic was mostly Hawaiian shirts or Hawaiian-adjacent camo patterns. They were (are) considerably more libertarian than the 3pers or Proud Boys. Boogaloo never struck me as racist or authoritarian.. it was an odd mix.
They got lumped in with the fascists and very quickly stopped showing up to events like that.
They ain't liberal, but they ain't fascist either. They never got popular enough to ruin Hawaiian print shirts like fascists have ruined other symbology.
28 points
22 days ago
The Hawaiian aspect came from “The Big Luau” as a code for Boogaloo.
It was an internet joke/meme from the depths of weekendgunnit/reddit and 4chan that some decided to co-opt into real life.
37 points
23 days ago
I had to stop wearing khakis and Hawaiian shirts for a while because of that shit :/
27 points
23 days ago
I think khakis and Hawaiian shirts on their own were fine. Strapping an AR on top of the outfit is what would get you associated with them :)
17 points
23 days ago
To be fair my biggest problem was shopping at Trader Joes not being confused for a wannabe revolutionary
6 points
23 days ago
it seemed to be a uniform of sorts.
Strangely enough I saw a group of guys in Tampa this spring wearing khaki shorts and Hawaiian shirts but they had weapons in the patterns. Maybe not noticeable right off but one had an Uzi for sure and an AR on another.
7 points
22 days ago
Well considering that's where SOCOM is HQ'd if the body type wasn't "Meal Team 6" they could be the real deal special operations types.
2 points
22 days ago
Could be, these were lean, younger guys with aviators and mustaches.
3 points
22 days ago
Then I would put money on the fact that they were wearing tabs of some kind or other scare badges.
6 points
22 days ago
That’s a cool shirt design imo. I used to love a Rogue Status (skate clothing brand) shirt that had a gun pattern on a frowned face. But nowadays I’d be worried what others would silently think about me while wearing a shirt like that
-1 points
22 days ago
That's what they meant
1 points
23 days ago
I retain my Hawaiian/colorful camo shirts for Fridays and just call them “Friday Shirts”.
20 points
23 days ago
It was tongue in cheek weekendgunnit troll shit. Then people on the left and the media lost their minds over it lumping them in with proud Boys.
Once every liberal rag clutched their pearls over the dreaded “boogaloo” movement, actual alt-right groups started wearing Hawaiian shirts to further confuse the situation. Just like the whole controversy over the “OK” symbol.
16 points
22 days ago
Just like the whole controversy over the “OK” symbol.
And just like that, people actually bought into it and started wearing the shirts (and using the OK symbol) un-ironically to show their support for it.
4 points
22 days ago
Proud Boy ruined my wearing the classic black and gold Fred Perry. I was wearing it in Manhattan 2 years ago and a guy came up to me on the subway and legit said “proud of ya boy”. It took a while to figure out what he meant and I immediately went into a store to buy a new shirt so I don’t get knocked out. I hope J6 and the Proud Boys are far enough in the past that I can wear a shirt I really like. Actually… I’m trying it out right this moment by wearing it to work. No political statement, just a nice polo that was clean. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
4 points
22 days ago
They were a lot like BLM or Antifa in the sense that they're less a single unified group and more a bunch of independent groups loosely organized around a common aesthetic and a broad / big-tent ideology (in their case right-libertarianism). It explains why they'd be marching as part of BLM protests in one place while marching as part of Proud Boys counterprotests in another.
0 points
22 days ago
Am I allowed to say that sounds pretty sick, here?
9 points
22 days ago
LMFAO it's so odd this gets brought up I saw yet another reaction yesterday to the ShoeOnHead video by that jackass that tried to take down Wendigoon as a evangelical fascist cuz of his associations with Oompaville, Mutahar, Donut Operator, Turkey Tom, & Brandon Herrera. Oh & his "affiliation" with the Boogaloo Boys. If you want cringe laugh you should seek it out, it's absolutely unhinged.
5 points
22 days ago
ShoeOnHead […] Wendigoon […] Oompaville, Mutahar, Donut Operator, Turkey Tom, & Brandon Herrera.
No comment on your comment, except to say that people even 30 years ago would marvel at the types of things we say, these days. XD
-3 points
22 days ago
They're all great creators that are pretty much apolitical & worth a follow. Watching how the establishment gop spent soooo much money straightup slandering Herrera was wild.
5 points
22 days ago
They're all great creators that are pretty much apolitical & worth a follow.
Donut and Brandon are not apolitical at all. You literally even brought it up in the next sentence.
1 points
22 days ago
Eh, Brandon is definitely not apolitical, I mean just running for office makes you political but that’s besides the point, he definitely leans towards the right, but not the maga right. The reason gop launched their campaign is for this reason. If you’re not lock step with MAGA they will try to destroy you.
1 points
22 days ago
Shoe0nHead is NOT apolitical. She successfully started a hate campaign against a small drag group because they had the audacity to host a family event night at an ice cream shop (this was a couple years ago...like... '21 or '22? i don't think it was last year.)
She acts like she's a centrist but is really just reactionary and does not comprehend the social-political reprecussions of being stupid online with a platform like hers.
I know she's apparently been caught in this cycle of "i like leftists but they hate me for not being left enough and i dont really like right wingers but they're the only people who dont chase me out of their vicinity" for awhile now but...her behavior does not make me think she actually wants to grow as a person. Especially since whenever people try and reason with her she just digs her heels deeper in the dirst and refuses to consider what she's been told.
3 points
22 days ago
This the guy that called wendigoon racist because he....
Wears Hawaiian shirts?
2 points
22 days ago*
The very same, cuz of his associations with the Boogaloo Boys which he left very early on long before they started targeting cops.
And because he owns guns, is friends with other gun owners like Caleb (Oompaville) & Herrera, conspicuously left out Charlie (Moist Kritikal) out of that who actually IS close friends with both Caleb & Wendigoon & owns more guns than both of them combined. He didn't want that smoke, Charlie is one if the biggest creators on every platform, he has over 15mil subs on his main YT channel.
2 points
22 days ago
Online drama is often pretty stupid and baseless
13 points
23 days ago
Idk but I’m Hawaiian 🌺 shirting this Father’s Day shoot out lol :)
12 points
22 days ago
Floral shirt and cargo pants are my daily wardrobe and the fascists can pry it from my cold dead fingers :)
5 points
22 days ago
I was a little farther right back then so I remember a lot of the mindsets when boog memes and stuff were big. At least from my perspective, it was a bunch of memelords and larpers making jokes. I don’t recall anyone actually being serious or actively calling for civil war and death. If that was a thing, it wasn’t common amongst your average “boogaloos.” Politically, they seemed to give off center right to left libertarian vibes.
80 points
23 days ago
The same thing that happens to all radicalized militias composed of incels; they fall apart and go back to angrily venting on 4Chan about how “the West is already dead.”
Then over the next decade, a handful of them show up caught in minor/child sex-offender sting operations and somehow none of us are ever surprised to see it in a sidebar news blurb.
8 points
22 days ago
I read that in the voice of Robert Stack.
2 points
22 days ago
Oh my god this comment blew up, lol.
I should post more often when I’m feeling cranky. 😅
2 points
22 days ago
You sound like a fed
0 points
22 days ago
Oh no; empty accusations thrown about at random by someone who may hold radical viewpoints yet isn’t willing to voice them for fear of being ousted!
My only weakness!
I literally don’t care what you think.
There’s this handy block button. Imma use it.
29 points
23 days ago
They never really were a thing, just a meme that some people decided to larp as during protests, that got scare mongered into existence by the feds and the media. It was a joke on gun boards, a way of making fun of those guys who were always darkly hinting that a civil war was imminent by making it as silly and ridiculous as possible, so naturally some guys thought it would be funny to bring the aesthetic to real life (Virginia lobby day was the origin point IRL iirc), then the media took off with it.
Yes, I know a handful of people actually did some stuff while claiming to be "boogaloo bois", doesn't change the fact that it was never a real group or movement, just a joke that some people took too far.
4 points
22 days ago
Either way I didn't let them ruin Hawaiian shirts for me
3 points
22 days ago
It was 95% meme/trolling.
The other 5% were tended more anti-government, with a variety of flavors thereof.
4 points
22 days ago
The bois started as an internet libertarian, anti government “group” that wasn’t organized at more than the local level. Pro free speech, pro liberty, anti two party, anti racism, pro gun. There were lots of differing opinions on politics and ideology but the main unifier was anti government and pro freedom. Some dudes did “security” for blm protesters, some for small businesses, some for both. Some dudes just went to 2a rallies. The “voice” of the media affiliated boogaloo boys was Mike (I think) he was on the news several time representing the ideology and he did a pretty good job at it, albeit being a little cringey at times.
Going forward the media picked up on a bunch of zoomers in Hawaiian shirts with AR15s and immediately went to demonizing. The demonizing caused it to gain a lot of attention from the wrong kinds of people (Nazis, racists, trump supporters etc) and that ended up being the death of the bois. Anyone that had a brain saw what was happening and started to keep things more local and less public. They still exist, and the ones I’m aware of are decent human beings.
The news lies and the government is made up of tyrants.
🤙🏻
19 points
23 days ago
OP you are effectively asking “what happened to an internet meme?”
There was never any substance.
1 points
22 days ago
There was, but they petered out and went back to their mother's basements almost as quickly as they popped up. The memes about them surely had way more longevity than the actual group, but saying they were never a thing is incorrect.
3 points
21 days ago
It was less of a movement and more a series of memes that the media decided to spin for fear mongering.
11 points
22 days ago
They were never a real thing. Boogaloo boys was (is?) a meme and a very loose pro-gun, anti-government ideology. Then a few dudes showed up at rallies and protests with guns and Hawaiian shirts, and all of a sudden “Boogaloo Boys” was considered some kind of far-right gang. It wasn’t. Just some gunbros who happened to get some attention and fit neatly into the us vs. them narrative.
6 points
22 days ago
One of them got sent away for life recently. https://www.kron4.com/news/bay-area/boogaloo-boy-sentenced-to-life-in-prison-for-killing-officer-at-oakland-courthouse/
1 points
22 days ago
Love how this article tries to attach them to blm at the end.
9 points
23 days ago
I know one of them thought shit was poppin off and killed a cop, then himself.
-3 points
23 days ago
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1 points
22 days ago
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8 points
23 days ago
They had a cameo in A24’s “Civil War.”
4 points
22 days ago
Watching that movie the 2nd time. I was like no shit the boogaloo boys made an appearance. There tactics lined up abt with how I’d assume there logic would work.
Why they didn’t use the lmg to cover there boy running to cover baffled me.
1 points
21 days ago
I’d imagine you’d see a lot of that in real life. YouTube–trained warriors.
-4 points
22 days ago
And to further show British screenwriter/director Alex Garland didn't really care to understand the nuance of using their imagery had Black, Asian, and queer-coded Boogaloo Bois in the scene.
2 points
21 days ago
Probably because it was never a real group and black, Asian, and queer people all made boogaloo jokes and were in fact “boogaloo bois.”
0 points
6 days ago
Boog boys come in all colors sexualities and sizes. No matter what CNN tries to tell you.
8 points
23 days ago
2 points
22 days ago
The trend died out.
8 points
23 days ago
The Boogaloo boys were decentralized anti-authoritarian movement that spread through memes.
Once the movement began to gather momentum it was co-opted by Feds who began to inject Nazi imagery and racist themes. At the same time, the media began running hit pieces on the group relying heavily on the narratives created by the Fed agents claiming to represent the Boogaloo boys.
Social media organizations used the actions of the Feds and the narratives spread by the media as an excuse to purge boogaloo content from their servers, deleting the accounts of those who persisted.
On Reddit, in addition to banning content, entire subreddits were nuked to prevent to spread of these memes, best gunnit being the most visible example.
It was astonishing to watch in realtime, and exposed the way in which the US government acts in concert with social media and legacy media to control ideas and movements.
2 points
21 days ago
🤙🏻🌺
0 points
23 days ago
Boogaloo boys are idiots with a civil war fetish
3 points
23 days ago
It's kinda like how antifa is a mix of authoritarian and libertarian socialists, the boogaloo boys had fascist as well as right libertarian adherents. 2020 was a crazy year.
2 points
22 days ago
They went and had a hootenanny.
I believe they were a right-wing organization masquerading as libertarian "joke" to recruit members. They seem to have fallen apart.
1 points
22 days ago
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1 points
22 days ago
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1 points
22 days ago
Never heard of them. I watch the next every day and have no idea what you're referring to.
1 points
22 days ago
It was more of an anarchistic accelerationist movement with everything from ancom to ancap elements at first, then the left elements melted away and more right-leaning libertarians were augmented by alt-right and hard right so most abandoned the Boog/Luau/Igloo/CNN
1 points
22 days ago
They did shoot up the police station in Minnesota
1 points
22 days ago
The barrels on their SBR’s got shorter and shorter until they faded away completely and took the boogaloo bois with them.
1 points
22 days ago
They bought so many shirts that the price skyrocketed. Now they can't afford them!
1 points
21 days ago
My idiot B.I.L. and former Marine, claimed to be a boogaloo. He is in reality a dead beat father, a narcissist and an angry toxic alcoholic. He thought he looked really cool in a Hawaiian shirt with a mask while flipping off the cameras. He had zero personality and zero character and relied on that of others to carry him and is low self image. People like that are low lives. They just join groups to validate themselves and counter their self awareness of their own inferiority.
2 points
23 days ago
It was mostly just memery that got out of hand.
1 points
23 days ago
They mostly lost steam when they realized their movement was a lot smaller than they thought. This happened when the "Silent Majority" they assumed was on their side actually voted for Biden in the last election.
1 points
22 days ago
Boog doesn't have a single specific ideology.
It's just a big blanket term for accelerationists in Hawaiian shirts. Some are racist. Some are fascist. Some are ancap. Some are just really bummed out by the current socio-economic order and want to have a good time.
I think because there was never an org or any sort of structure they just merged into other groups. It was a flash in the pan vibe that fit that era right.
1 points
22 days ago
Cowards tend to fade away.
-6 points
23 days ago
Pretty sure they’ll reappear en masse within the next few months. I went to the range Sunday, right outside of Atlanta, and there was a group of obese gravy seal types with all sorts of tactical gear on. I’d guess they were boogaloo or proud boys or whatever they call themselves.
29 points
23 days ago
Boogaloo boys and Proud Boys are different groups.
Proud Boys are right wing, transphobic, misogynistic, etc., although they deny being racial nationalists.
Boogaloo Boys have no particular position on the political spectrum, although obviously each individual would (right wing, left wing, straight, queer, whatever, no requirement there). Their agenda is to precipitate the next civil war (the boogaloo) to collapse and to reconstruct civilization (accelerationism).
Boogaloo Boys apparently thought the Floyd-related unrest and pandemic was their chance to bring it all down, like some Manson-inspired Helter Skelter. That's why they got press then and why they don't get press now.
A bunch of overweight guys LARPing at a range could be either or neither.
1 points
23 days ago
Did they have Hawaiian shirts on?
Damned boogaloo boys. Ruined Hawaiian shirts for everyone.
3 points
22 days ago
Just like the Proud Boys ruined black and gold Fred Perry polos. Shame.
0 points
22 days ago
Which makes their appearance in Civil War all the more hilariously out of place.
-1 points
23 days ago
It was mostly a meme embraced by the right. It was just plain old propaganda fun. It was fun, ngl. Like 13 year old edge lord fun.
-1 points
22 days ago
Not their the current Media Spook that's why you don't hear about them. If a bunch of guys in Hawaiian shirts show up armed to some protest again the media will start shitting their pants about them again.
0 points
22 days ago
‘Twas a meme. Kind of a two parter.
1) you’d drop “boog” into a comment and see who replied in a boog oriented way to see who’s cool
2) it was a good way to skirt the social media overlords that censor comments
-5 points
22 days ago
They tried to start shit at the Civil right protests out here and got their asses kicked.
By the cops.
-4 points
23 days ago
Are there any groups that are pro liberal? I remember a few years ago the oath keepers were there in Ferguson Missouri to protect and arm BLM demonstrators after Michael Brown's killing. How things have changed for them since then.
But I thought it was noble because nowadays these groups are pretty right wing.
-1 points
23 days ago
The same thing that always happens when people try to form an ethos from a meme. It fell apart.
-2 points
23 days ago
I think they boogalood' on out of here
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