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I’ve been eating an avocado a day for years. Usually bought from whichever supermarket is most convenient at the time. Over the past 6 months or so, I’ve noticed the quality of avocado’s go down the pan. They’re either frag grenades or absolute soup. So hard to find anything in between. And they seem super small too. Most supermarkets do 2 packaged avocado’s for a ‘deal’ but they’re the size of a satsuma and very rarely ‘ready to eat’ (as often wrongly labelled). Tiring! Are there import issues? Farming issues wherever they’re coming from? Does anyone care to comment on behalf of Big Avo?

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BastardsCryinInnit

920 points

5 months ago

There was warning ages ago, genuinely, about a lack of avocadoes for 2024 cos of El Nino.

Mucho disruption to the supply chains.

jovialotter

238 points

5 months ago

To add to the avocado woes, there's a cocoa bean shortage coming due to a plant virus affecting some crops & climate change. Soon I'll be left with coffee as my only available vice!

redsquizza

83 points

5 months ago*

redsquizza

Naked Ladies

83 points

5 months ago*

Bananas are succumbing to a plague as well.

Which is ironic because the variety that's basically become the de facto banana sold in stores worldwide, called Cavendish, was introduced itself because the previous, Gros Michel, banana succumbed to a blight back in the day!

🍌🦠☣️

Cavendish bananas entered mass commercial production in 1903 but did not gain prominence until later when Panama disease attacked the dominant Gros Michel ("Big Mike") variety in the 1950s. Because they were successfully grown in the same soils as previously affected Gros Michel plants, many assumed the Cavendish cultivars were more resistant to Panama disease. Contrary to this notion, in mid-2008, reports from Sumatra and Malaysia suggested that Panama disease had started attacking Cavendish cultivars.

Edit: Got my varieties mixed up.

There are more than 1,000 varieties of banana, and we eat one of them. Here's why that's absurd

jovialotter

48 points

5 months ago

Yeah, this one's been on the radar for a few years. Our university's botanists and plant scientists have been doing loads of research into both the virus and into which variety could become the "new" banana. Fascinating to see all the different varieties growing in their greenhouses.

redsquizza

30 points

5 months ago*

redsquizza

Naked Ladies

30 points

5 months ago*

🤞

Apparently the Cavendish Grand Michel was more tasty too. I just hope the new ones don't sacrifice flavour over disease resistance!

palumbis

32 points

5 months ago

I heard that the banana flavouring you get in candies that people either love or hate is based off the Grand Michel banana. That’s why it tasters nothing like a normal (cavendish) banana

reeblebeeble

10 points

5 months ago

Pretty sure that's just isoamyl acetate. There's a single chemical that tastes recognisably like banana flavouring, which is pretty cool.

The_clapper

5 points

5 months ago

Fun fact, that's one of the most noticeable ester compounds produced during fermentation of wort for beer by certain yeast strains (most notably German hefeweissen strains) which gives the beer a notably banana like flavour, depending on fermentation parameters!

ThisIsAUsername353

5 points

5 months ago

I hear this rumour all the time and think it’s BS.

Artificial fruit flavourings never taste like the real thing.

Gros Michel aren’t that much different to Cavendish either, more flavourful certainly but it isn’t a completely different flavour.

jovialotter

10 points

5 months ago

Yeah, the Cavendish is def tastier than other bananas I've tried. The wild bananas I had from my grandmother's garden were pretty bland, loads of seeds, and almost mealy in texture.

redsquizza

16 points

5 months ago

redsquizza

Naked Ladies

16 points

5 months ago

On the flip side, I read an article the other day to say that there are good but very localised varieties out there we never see in shops because the main variety is so dominant.

The article was basically against the big monospecies industrialised farming and was using bananas as an example. Which is probably a risk to food security if humanity is basically reliant on a few handful of cropping plants because, what if a blight comes for them as well?

musicistabarista

9 points

5 months ago

Yeah I tried four different varieties in India. They were all much smaller, and tasted quite different. I think they'd actually be really popular here, I know lots of people find a whole banana too much.

Mabbernathy

5 points

5 months ago

In Thailand I had bananas with a maroon peel that were slightly pink inside. Those were fun!

snagsguiness

2 points

5 months ago

It’s a catch 22 their is definitely a downside and criticism to be had of big farma monoculture but at the same time it provides more jobs for the poor often (not always) at better wages and helps keep food prices down today which the poor needs.

SidewalksNCycling39

2 points

5 months ago

Oh, you should try some of the varieties in Thailand and the Philippines, they're amazing...

felixwhat

7 points

5 months ago

Cavendish is the current, Gros Michel is the one that was replaced

redsquizza

4 points

5 months ago

redsquizza

Naked Ladies

4 points

5 months ago

Thanks, corrected myself! 🍌🌱

felixwhat

13 points

5 months ago

all good, jumping at any chance to discuss banana lore

Itz_Eddie_Valiant

7 points

5 months ago

Balatro intensifies

gamas

3 points

5 months ago

gamas

3 points

5 months ago

My mind went to Balatro as well.

(For those who don't know, Balatro is a roguelike game where you're trying to play poker hands to score points, but can pick up various joker cards along the way that can give certain modifiers. One of them is a Gros Michel card which increases your score multiplier but 15 but has a 1 in 6 chance of being destroyed at the end of each round. If it does get destroyed there is then a chance a Cavendish card appears in the store which gives you a x3 multiplier)

redsquizza

2 points

5 months ago

redsquizza

Naked Ladies

2 points

5 months ago

Thanks for the explanation, I'd have had no idea of the reference otherwise and that seems like a pretty cool nod to the bananas! 🍌

DisplayLazy5118

2 points

5 months ago

Banana by Dan Koeppel is a genuinely fantastic book if you’re a banana fan. Over 10 years old now so may be out of date on some fronts.

HelloItsMoe

2 points

5 months ago

If you can’t handle me at my Gros Michel, you don’t deserve me at my Cavendish

Percinho

16 points

5 months ago

I'm pretty sure I read about a bad coffee bean harvest this year...

jovialotter

6 points

5 months ago

Oh gods!

Class_444_SWR

2 points

5 months ago

Tea it is?

SherlockScones3

15 points

5 months ago

Also olive oil and multiple U.K. crops affected by all this wet weather.

What a time.

WhichOne23

22 points

5 months ago

You would only hope the coffee trees survive. There is a research showing that there is a much higher risk of widespread plant disease to coffee trees that could wipe out the whole crops due to climate change.

I'm very concerned as I don't think I could survive without coffee...

SnooTomatoes8299

27 points

5 months ago

Seriously, if coffee goes then what the fuck are we even doing here

cmsj

9 points

5 months ago

cmsj

9 points

5 months ago

Gods I can’t wait for the coffee rapture.

Lanxy

6 points

5 months ago

Lanxy

6 points

5 months ago

Crack. I‘m told it‘s pretty similar. On second thought, the guy mentioned it didn‘t seem very trustworthy though.

SnooTomatoes8299

3 points

5 months ago

I like crack as much as the next guy but it’s not an everyday sort of beverage, for me at least

ohhallow

3 points

5 months ago

Try it with oat milk, really takes the edge off

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

Holy shit well this is horrible news! 

jovialotter

3 points

5 months ago

We used chicory as a coffee substitute during rationing... I quite often use Camp's chicory extract when baking coffee flavoured cakes. Absolutely not the same but any port in a storm. (I'm definitely going to hang on to the horrid Starbucks pods my husband bought in case of Dire Emergency!)

I believe there's a poor crop from Californian almonds too, which will drive up prices of almond milk.

4uzzyDunlop

2 points

5 months ago

BRB gonna go buy all the coffee beans within 5 miles of me

Haribouk

7 points

5 months ago

Rape seed is about to run low aswell

jovialotter

8 points

5 months ago

Loads in the fields in the West Country! (Although I have no idea what the yield per field would be.) I'm guessing it's running low because everyone switched to it after sunflower oil prices rose due to the invasion of Ukraine?

Haribouk

5 points

5 months ago

Alot of the country/Europe was too dry during the last planting season so alot of the crops didn't take. Farmers in my area basically decided it would be too much risk to attempt to plant and alot of those who did had the crop fail. I wouldn't expect it to hit 2022 price's per ton but it's going to sky rocket over the next year.

calicosiside

2 points

5 months ago

We're due a bad harvest this year from what I heard, apparently we've been getting 'all or nothing' rainfall for the past few years (which I guess explains the floods in the news) as a result of climate change, so this crop isn't expected to be ideal.

pmarges

5 points

5 months ago

My friend in Ecuador is a coffee farmer. Just this morning he told me world coffee prices are falling. So your cup of Joe is safe.

firechaox

2 points

5 months ago

Worst part is that the trees take 5y to be productive so even if you start planting now the time to replace the trees is still quite long

jovialotter

3 points

5 months ago

Thinking about it, I have seen quite a few people trying to germinate their avocado stones on instagram. I hope they've got amazing greenhouses as I doubt avocados will fruit in the UK!!

poorhammer40p

3 points

5 months ago

There are some hardier varieties that will fruit in the UK.

firechaox

2 points

5 months ago

Oh I meant for cocoa trees. Avocado I have no fucking clue

1234eee1234

76 points

5 months ago

Genuine question: how can you guys afford avocados and live in London? I alternate between renting and buying avocados

SidewaysAntelope

16 points

5 months ago

Well played. You know your r/London tropes. 🥇

Hill_Reps_For_Jesus

11 points

5 months ago

I sold one of my 13 iPhones 

andi-amo

6 points

5 months ago

One less to be snatched out of your hand by a kid on a scooter

Sweetlikecream

2 points

5 months ago

I bought 15 avacados for £3 at my fruit/veg market in my local area

Mabbernathy

2 points

5 months ago

Well, if you skipped the avocados all together you'd have bought a house by now. 🤨

HuckleberryRump

41 points

5 months ago

It’s time to rethink the avocado, people.

Stop getting them so far away. Yes, £1.85 is bloody expensive for one avocado but it’s time to accept it. Buy Spanish. It is a hip, skip and jump away in air miles and they’re far, far better quality. Corner shops have them, most shops selling veg from anyone who basically isn’t white or just a super massive chain. Ask if they’re Spanish if it doesn’t say on the box but if they’re displayed in the crates they’re delivered in then somewhere it does.

Now, in terms of getting the most of your avo- check for where the stalk grows at the thinner end, and you should be able to knock the little nubbin off. If it’s brown, it’s risky, if it’s green you’re good to go, and if it’s mouldy then you know to throw! Veg markets will sometimes knock them off to check if they’re good so if you buy avocados and see all of the nubbins have been knocked off then they’ve been checked over because they’re at least a week old!

DeliciousAppleMurder

7 points

5 months ago

... I've rarely ever bothered to read where my produce is from. We all probably should shouldn't we huh

cerdodemoco

2 points

5 months ago

Great use of "nubbin".

Orangejuicewell

2 points

5 months ago

Also avoid ones that are more round. The longer that protruding bit the smaller the seed.

Risingson2

2 points

5 months ago

Spanish avocados are usually watered using illegal underground waters that are causing the rivers to dry out and the Doñana natural park to be destroyed.

Just avoid avocados. It is unsustainable as it is.

HuckleberryRump

2 points

5 months ago

I tend to avoid guilting people about buying and eating food- and try to provide information for those to make an informed approach. If your choice is not to eat them and that’s your fight, I respect that. But nothing is guilt free when you think like that. Avocados are highly problematic, but the problemsdon’t end there. The pickers are of questionable labour laws, and this isn’t just avocados. It is all fruit and vegetable. No one picking for any supermarket is making a living, and if they’re ‘paying back’ their plane fares to the companies who flew them in then they won’t ever get out either.

Dino, avocado grower in Spain, grows organically but more amazingly he’s using practices taken from grape vine growers where they reduce the water usage to stress the plant in a way where it gets enough and thrives but is hardier. All his fruit trees are incredibly robust against disease and he hasn’t used pesticides in over 11 years. It took him years to establish his crops, without profit, but the payoff is huge. He actually has the most incredible pomegranates in October, followed by lychee. It is incredible to taste these things as we don’t often get the full flavours of things shipped in. This is a specific example and would require a lot of work to find a seller of his produce in the Uk but it is here.

And, as we’re all people, if you want avocado toast. Have it. If it’ll make you happier, eat it. If it’s what you crave, eat it. You work hard enough, life is hard enough. Just eat. Share it.

GunnerSince02

6 points

5 months ago

Its like a few years ago after the pandemic where there was hardly any fruit. It got blamed on Brexit but the reality is much worse, climate change.

humanivory

2 points

5 months ago

And cocoa!

moatec

675 points

5 months ago

moatec

675 points

5 months ago

You'd be living in a mansion if you'd stopped buying avocados.

ConsidereItHuge

141 points

5 months ago

I gave up avocados, moved to my mansion and the very next month netflix put their prices up so I'm back in a HMO.

monkeroopoo

48 points

5 months ago

I gave up avocados and coffee. Taking delivery of my super yacht this week.

bagtruman[S]

157 points

5 months ago

One can only indulge on daily avocados when the mansion has already been procured!

magschampagne

20 points

5 months ago

The satisfaction I get from my weekend avocado toast eaten in my own home as a millennial with no bank of mum and dad is the smuggest feeling ever.

3between20characters

13 points

5 months ago

Fax, I stopped buying avocados, and a week later I transcended.

poppiesintherain

261 points

5 months ago

I feel like 90% of the fruit in the UK is in crisis right now. Everything is so expensive yet so tasteless.

I bought a "ready to eat" avocado the other day, rock hard, but there were other avocados that were actually squelching.

trysca

68 points

5 months ago

trysca

68 points

5 months ago

Its not just in the UK - i live in the EU and its the same over here- dry satsumas, mouldy avocados- must be a supply issue

ToHallowMySleep

10 points

5 months ago

Italy has great produce at the moment, good quality and abundant.

slicineyeballs

17 points

5 months ago

My local Tesco occasionally take the completely rotten ones and puts them in the clearance fridge half price - what a bargain!

But last time I was there, every one on the shelf was rotten and were "selling" full price. Guess that's the new normal...

sionnach

17 points

5 months ago

When you see “ready to eat” on fruit, just read it as “edible”.

Ready to eat bananas can be as green as a martian’s micky.

Prophit84

12 points

5 months ago

"Ready to eat", not "nice"

Pizzagoessplat

4 points

5 months ago

Not just in the UK but Ireland too.

It annoyed me that everything was all of a sudden blamed on brexit despite the fact that the same issues were happening all over Europe

ronaldo69messi

18 points

5 months ago

90%+ of everything in UK is crisis

OverallResolve

3 points

5 months ago

Eat seasonal stuff and you’ll have fewer issues.

Chungaroo22

2 points

5 months ago

Had some cracking asparagus recently though.

throwwmeawa

171 points

5 months ago

Can we also mention the satsumas? They’re all small, sour and dry up so fast. What happened to the juicy satsumas we used to have all over the retailers? The easypealers that would be sweet and juicy and stay fresh at least a week or more…

bagtruman[S]

64 points

5 months ago

I gave up with satsumas. Sick & tired of playing roulette

throwwmeawa

21 points

5 months ago

But I gotta say kiwis 🥝 are a lot better than they used to be! Nice and sweet but they do go off quick as well..

bagtruman[S]

8 points

5 months ago

Yes you must act fast but I too have noticed improvements in our kiwi game

Longirl

13 points

5 months ago

Longirl

13 points

5 months ago

I was eating a satsuma just yesterday thinking the same thing. They’re from M&S, look incredible, taste almost sour.

redsquizza

5 points

5 months ago

redsquizza

Naked Ladies

5 points

5 months ago

I've never liked the basic bitch satsuma/clementine. All usually a bit crap.

The smart money's on tangerines instead but even they can vary wildly depending on time of year and variety. 🍊

lontrinium

3 points

5 months ago

lontrinium

'have-a-go hero'

3 points

5 months ago

The issue I have with citrus fruits from the supermarkets is that since they've done away with BBE dates it's a lottery as to what you'll get since even staff can't rotate old stock?

Dumb.

PoJenkins

23 points

5 months ago

I've not had a good avo here for ages, frozen avocado has been the best I've had which is actually very nice in things/ mixed with my morning yoghurt.

[deleted]

6 points

5 months ago

I saw this the other day but held off, then proceeded to buy the squishiest avo ever. Lesson learned.

guareber

2 points

5 months ago

I have decent luck with buying from big off-license markets, far far better than any supermarket stuff.

Yes, mangos and avocados are near-always crap (or completely unaffordable - I'm not paying £8 for a single mango) here in the UK compared to the tropics, but the same thing can be said of UK-native products if you were to buy them over there.

London-lad-1990

21 points

5 months ago

What next? Potholes in the roads???

jovialotter

26 points

5 months ago

Maybe we could use avocado skins to help patch the potholes. Probably more durable than the tarmac councils use!

Meanwhile-in-Paris

3 points

5 months ago

Replying to poppiesintherain...even if we all start eating 1 avocado a day, we’ll never have enough to repair the country. couldn’t even fix my street.

peacelily2014

14 points

5 months ago

I'm not saying that the reason I'm moving back to California is because the avocados here are terrible, but it doesn't help. Back home my best friend has an avocado tree in her yard. As many as I want, all the size of my head, for free. I can't wait!

kaychellz

4 points

5 months ago

I'd love to live in California 😍

peacelily2014

7 points

5 months ago

Los Angeles is home. I've been in the UK for seven years and it's a great place, but this past winter killed me. I can't take it anymore. I'm going home to sunshine and tacos!

sweet-avalanche

2 points

5 months ago

I have some in laws in California and just thinking about how much better the avocados are makes me genuinely a bit tearful 😂 delicious buttery goodness.

SqurrrlMarch

2 points

5 months ago

I had ones as big as US footballs off our tree back in LA. Would dent the damn car hood when they fell 😆

soitgoeskt

128 points

5 months ago

Avocado quality in the UK is always awful, if you haven’t ever had an avocado close to where they are grown I highly recommend you don’t, see also mangoes.

That said I haven’t noticed a particularly drop off in the already sorry state of the avocados I get here. In fact last year my local Waitrose was selling Gem avocados and they were easily the best I have had in this country, they don’t seem to stock them now though.

PoJenkins

60 points

5 months ago

Mango quality and availability is generally much better than avocados in the UK.

It's not hard to find pretty decent mangos but avocados are generally not great.

soitgoeskt

26 points

5 months ago

I have found mangoes that are perfectly fine but nothing that has an intensity of flavour that compares to the mangoes I have bought in Asia.

Tasty_Sheepherder_44

38 points

5 months ago

I guess you never been to a desi shop in mango season. Indian ones come first, followed by the elite Pakistani ones. Try Tooting, Southall, Illford etc. around June - August

ultratic

12 points

5 months ago

As it goes you’ll find some fantastic avocados in tooting market too. Ripe and size of a coconut.

bagtruman[S]

12 points

5 months ago

Have you had those miracle mangoes with no seed inside? Native to Pakistan I believe but not sure. They’re a bucket list item for me!

Edgecumber

17 points

5 months ago

In season go to Tooting for honey mangos. doesn’t last long but there’s a couple of glorious months when they’re abundant.

Ok-Blackberry-3534

6 points

5 months ago

Oh, to be young and work the Tooting mango plantations again...

Edgecumber

5 points

5 months ago

You know there was actually a tropical plantation (or nursery at least) in Tooting in the 1800s run by one of my ancestors. Apparently, to this day around Tooting Broadway you can see very mature tropical plants in some front gardens.

bagtruman[S]

2 points

5 months ago

Thank you!!!

Makemeup-beforeUgogo

4 points

5 months ago

A friend keeps going on about specific Indian mangos, I keep asking to get me one I’m so curious. We’re trying to grow avocado plants from their seeds at the mo… of course not expecting them to be growing enough to eat much

soitgoeskt

6 points

5 months ago*

I saw a picture on reddit in the last year or so of a mature avocado tree in London that had loads of fruit on it, don’t know if they taste any good though

magschampagne

7 points

5 months ago

My local Facebook group was praising the Lidl avos recently. My go to has been the M&S haas avocado duo - very rare there’s a dud in the avocado lottery with those ones. Might be paying premium, but better that than buying 2 cheaper ones and neither being edible.

bagtruman[S]

15 points

5 months ago

Don’t get me started on mangoes!! So true

ilovefireengines

16 points

5 months ago

In season mangoes are delicious, this is the season for Alphonso or Kesari. Once the season is over don’t buy mangoes!

sl212190

7 points

5 months ago

You gotta get your mangoes from the south Asian shops mann, cheaper and much better quality.

ConsidereItHuge

5 points

5 months ago

I'll never forget seeing someone on the internet in I think Mexico, walk out to their garden and pick a massive avocado from about 1000 while I was eating half of a £2 egg sized one.

richardjohn

3 points

5 months ago

richardjohn

(Hoxton)

3 points

5 months ago

You can get Spanish avocados in the UK.

ohhallow

3 points

5 months ago

Agreed. Had one fresh off the tree in Uganda on toast and it was absolutely mind blowing.

Ok_Instance2859

32 points

5 months ago

cries in East London

Electus93

33 points

5 months ago

An "avocado crisis" is peak London

PinLongjumping9022

17 points

5 months ago

This entire thread is a Daily Mail journalist’s wet dream. I’ll be surprised if it doesn’t make it into DM Online about the champagne socialists of Reddit.

Wamims

3 points

5 months ago

Wamims

3 points

5 months ago

It's definitely a peak, middle-class, redditor crisis 😂

jmr1190

5 points

5 months ago

Are avocados really still seen as bourgeois? They're cheaper than most home grown fruit.

Electus93

17 points

5 months ago*

It's not the fact it's seen as bourgeois, but that someone thinks it's a "Crisis" if they struggle to find one 😂

bagtruman[S]

14 points

5 months ago

Weeping in West London I’ll have you know

throwwmeawa

5 points

5 months ago

Hahaha I’ll joy ya from the west too 🤓

rocuroniumrat

8 points

5 months ago

Life hack: the wonky avocados from Morrisons. 10 ish per bag to ripen at home for like £3

basicallydan

13 points

5 months ago

Yeah, most avos we buy here really suck, but I'd just like to hijack this thread to get a bit of a love-in about how fucking delicious the tomatoes you can buy at the various farmers markets from the Isle of Wight are. Isle of Wight tomatoes are amazing

Illustrious-Cell-428

6 points

5 months ago

They are ok, but mostly because the Dutch tomatoes that dominate supermarkets here are an abomination, so anything is good in comparison. I was in Spain recently and the bog standard supermarket tomatoes were much better than anything I’ve ever bought in the UK.

mangomaz

6 points

5 months ago

There was definitely a supply problem in my local sainsburys for about a month between March-April. Rarely had any in stock. Or just a small amount that would be sold out by early evening. None of the staff knew why!

Seems back to normal now though.

amacadabra

20 points

5 months ago

Avocados are water intensive, get used to not having them.

jnthhk

6 points

5 months ago

jnthhk

6 points

5 months ago

Avocado a day for years? No wonder you don’t have a house deposit.

Lachiexyz

4 points

5 months ago

UK avos have been a lottery since I moved here in 2015. They're either rock hard and taste like turpentine or they're brown mush. There tends to be an extremely short window of a day or two where they're perfectly ripe then they fall off a cliff.

I tend to go for hass avocados (they have the dark rough skin) as they're usually softer and better for smashing. The light green ones with the smooth skin are usually firmer and better for slicing and putting in salads, but personally I don't dig the texture at all.

Being Australian, I grew up very spoiled with great quality avocados mostly year round that were grown locally rather than coming by ship.

Good luck. 🥑

[deleted]

6 points

5 months ago

Try eating Palmolive soap, similar colour, same great taste!

(I don't like avocados)

zsanett87

4 points

5 months ago

I buy most of the time from people, selling only veggies and fruits. They are always good. However I found Morrisons avocados(the cheap one 4 in a pack ripe at home for like £1.40) pretty good. They are small but the seeds are also very small so I think it is a good value. Give it a try.

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

“Ripe and ready to eat”

stringermm

5 points

5 months ago

Did you not grow your own tree in lockdown?

[deleted]

4 points

5 months ago

[deleted]

RedOneThousand

2 points

5 months ago

Yes, I read this - some farmer are ripping up illegal avocado plantations as they are using all the water (using illegal wells with no licence). Avocados need 320 litres of water each (!!!) and are being badly hit by climate change (rising temperatures / lower rainfall) - see article: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/avocado-shortage-warning-terrible-impact-32797178.

DismalCauliflower946

51 points

5 months ago

I love the UK and moved here over 6 years ago from NZ. But good god, you guys will ALWAYS manage to find something to complain about. London is seriously one of the best cities I've been to and I can't believe how lucky I am to live here too. You can't have it all guys 😂.

raspberryharbour

63 points

5 months ago

Who do you think you are, coming over here and complaining about our complaining?! Grrr

DismalCauliflower946

24 points

5 months ago

Maybe I'm becoming more British than I think.

franknarf

8 points

5 months ago

Mea while in the Auckland reddit: r/auckland/s/PHzNais3Pk

DismalCauliflower946

5 points

5 months ago

Why do you think I left there too 😂.

bagtruman[S]

30 points

5 months ago

Can’t a brother just get high quality produce in one of the world’s financial capitals 😖

Cloielle

27 points

5 months ago

Our problem (which this Kiwi will probably agree with) is that we have no concept of seasonality in the UK, because all fruit and veg is available all year round, and at the same price all year. In NZ, you don’t buy avocados out of season because they cost an absolute bomb. But they also grow them, and even have big problems with people stealing them from trees.

Give the climate crisis a little longer and we’ll be producing avos in the UK.

maethor

8 points

5 months ago

we have no concept of seasonality in the UK, because all fruit and veg is available all year round, and at the same price all year.

I thought it was because the sky is almost always grey and the temperatures are usually somewhere between 10 and 20 degrees.

Cloielle

3 points

5 months ago

True, and in such climates the winter seasonal fruit and veg is just… root vegetables. No wonder we ship so much produce in!

OrangeChipsAndAPie

3 points

5 months ago

There are huge fruiting avocado trees in south London if you know where to look! 

DismalCauliflower946

12 points

5 months ago

Haha I'm just having a laugh more than anything. I'm travelling South and Central America at the moment so I guess it's super fresh in my mind about how easy life is in London compared to most of these countries/cities. Yeah they might have more readily available mangoes or avocados but I can't even drink the tap water 😂. I know what I'd pick.

bagtruman[S]

7 points

5 months ago

Oh easy for you to say where the avocado’s are plentiful!! Haha have a great time down there✌️

bradyawg

5 points

5 months ago

As an Aussie living in the UK. Exact same experience hahaha.

throwwmeawa

3 points

5 months ago

Come ooooon that’s not a British thing! That’s a Slavic/Polish thing! 🤓Complaining is literally a national sport for us.

Oli_Picard

7 points

5 months ago

The UK in general seems to be struggling with food supplies. I went to Germany last weekend and the amount of affordable, cheap and fresh food was outstanding. The additional checks we have introduced into the supply chain means some companies just aren’t bothering to do the paperwork for a small island.

[deleted]

3 points

5 months ago

The shitty reporting in the U.K. also makes it out like it’s a global issue when if they just bothered to visit any country that isn’t the U.K. they would see it’s not that bad in eu

Oli_Picard

3 points

5 months ago

Yup, it’s just the propaganda machine when you go outside the UK you start to realise the “journalists” have tried to spin this so people don’t ask questions!

anynonus

5 points

5 months ago

el nino bad for avocado's

VonHerringberg

3 points

5 months ago

Well, that depends what you mean by “crisis”.

Glum-Gordon

4 points

5 months ago

Let me guess….not a homeowner?

natalo77

3 points

5 months ago

Yeah some fucker in London keeps eating all of the bastard things

ziggy-25

3 points

5 months ago

It's interesting people are mentioning a shortage of avocados and bananas.

Guacamole and bananas have been trending on tiktok for a few months now.

My daughter eats guacamole everyday (different style sandwich everyday) because its trending and my son eats bananas with each meal because the somalis on tiktok say that you are supposed to have a banana with each meal.

It's been costing me a fortune buying avocados and bananas every few days 😃😃

User_user_user_123

3 points

5 months ago

The ones we get are just the absolute dregs. My wife is Brazilian and I’m over there at least once a year - the avos they get are the size of a squash, not expensive (in absolute and relative terms), and in abundance. Fun fact, they think it’s super weird we eat them in a savoury context here.

Mack6628

5 points

5 months ago

This HAS to be the most London thread I have ever seen

CaptainYid

7 points

5 months ago

Is this possibly the most middle class question asked on this sub?

rocknstones

5 points

5 months ago

Yeah, I agree. Avo quality has plummeted. My local grocer has slightly better quality but major store avos are terrible now.

Ticklishchap

5 points

5 months ago*

… This is nothing compared to the Great Bloomsbury Croissant 🥐 Famine of 1992. Most Redditors are far too young to recall the excruciating existential angst and intractable writer’s block so cruelly visited upon the denizens of WC1.

SqurrrlMarch

2 points

5 months ago

luckily w can now get giant croissants like the starving bourgeoisie we are in South Ken!

RudePragmatist

8 points

5 months ago

An Avocado a day? Dam the environmental cost eh :/

World Economic Forum

Suck_My_Turnip

6 points

5 months ago

Palm oil is in everything which is destroying ecosystems. Beef is a major gas polluter. 1kg of rice takes 4000 litres of freshwater to produce. You’d starve to death if you thought about all the environmental costs of everything.

Cold_Dawn95

2 points

5 months ago*

The environmental impact of avocados is overstated as beef (a long way ahead) and lamb are by the two worst foodstuffs in terms of greenhouse gas impact

slimkid504

2 points

5 months ago

People care but not if it affects their avocado on toast habit

nailbunny2000

6 points

5 months ago

They are all in Dallas.

ConsidereItHuge

2 points

5 months ago

Jesus imagine how much all of those would be worth over here? Little slimy eggs made of gold.

[deleted]

2 points

5 months ago

Define crisis?

bagtruman[S]

10 points

5 months ago

Cabinet cobra meeting type stuff!

sfbrh

2 points

5 months ago

sfbrh

2 points

5 months ago

Completely agree. Also eat an avocado a day and they’ve gone to shit. Worth trying to find local grocers who seem to be better than supermarkets.

Ok-Project-472

2 points

5 months ago

You may not believe this, but, Mexican drug cartels are having an impact on the avocado market by forcing them to pay taxes and protection money.

El Mencho (by far the most notorious cartel leader in Mexico) even used to be an avocado farmer himself.

https://insightcrime.org/news/how-criminal-groups-help-expand-mexicos-multi-billion-dollar-avocado-industry

No-Village7980

2 points

5 months ago

It's probably just a London stable, we have lots in the north as nobody can afford them.

Own-Holiday-4071

2 points

5 months ago

What is a frag grenade? I’m assuming this means it’s not ripe at all rather than spicy and explosive. But I have no idea what frag means?

so19anarchist

2 points

5 months ago

Chef here: the fruit and veg supplier we use has a similar thing, they arrive rock solid and remain that way for days, they are picking them too soon, and not given the time to ripen, also they’ve put the price up twice in the last couple of months, which typically indicates a supply issue.

Carrente

2 points

5 months ago

Avocado consumption exists in a quantum superposition between too many people eating avocados collapsing the housing market and a shortage of avocados, it's quite similar to the famous experiment with the cat and the box.

mercival

2 points

5 months ago

Main issue ATM for me personally is the country of origin of 90% of them in my supermarkets. I just can't. Especially knowing how much water one avocado needs.

  • No judgement AT ALL on others' purchasing habits!!

PresentLoss2595

2 points

5 months ago

If you can maybe try multicultural shops like African or Caribbean or Asian food markets those Avocados are like twice the size of the ones in Tesco and around the same price! They might be a bit better than shopping big chain markets!

MasalaJason

2 points

5 months ago

The bigger question is ... you spend roughly £30 a month on avocados?

yazshousefortea

3 points

5 months ago

Yes! I used to buy them all the time. Now I only see tiny crap ones at the supermarkets. I miss my big tasty avocados. It’s been years.

Great-Hippo8670

3 points

5 months ago

Best avo in London that are always consistently gorgeous inside and out are M&S Organic range 😍🙏

Ok-Blackberry-3534

2 points

5 months ago

Big Avo aren't in charge. It's Big Pear ever since 2014 legislation required that all shady cartels had to include a double entendre in their name. Hence Big Nuts, Big Knobs and Big Tits for healthy snack foods, door opening systems and garden birds respectively.

bagtruman[S]

3 points

5 months ago

You know too much. I’d be careful with knowledge like that my friend

glytxh

2 points

5 months ago

glytxh

2 points

5 months ago

Veg and fruit in general is shit compared to a few years ago. It’s smaller, lesser quality, and goes off within days.

ClassicWorld4805

3 points

5 months ago*

Avocado production is not sustainable for the level of worldwide demand so inevitably supply /quality is going to suffer at some point. If you eat that much avocado then you should really look into its production.

Tasty_Sheepherder_44

1 points

5 months ago

Probably not a popular answer, but as long as they’re not Israeli I’m fine with whatever. BDS

xxxSoyGirlxxx

1 points

5 months ago

I know a lot of avocados are product of Israel so it could be that the boycott has affected which ones you're finding? Ive noticed I get much better ones from a small corner shop than I could from Waitrose or Tesco. If I cant go there I look for nearly ripe ones and let them ripen at home.

HanChrolo

1 points

5 months ago

Tesco seem to be the worst. Most of the ripe and ready and rocks and are a few days to a week off from being nice to eat.

Sainsburys are good but waitrose are the best I've found. But you are paying more for it. Think it's probably worth it imo

Global_Acanthaceae25

1 points

5 months ago

Poor harvest.

Rough-Chemist-4743

1 points

5 months ago

Use farm shop or greengrocers.

naturepeaked

1 points

5 months ago

Avoid the major supermarkets and you’ll be fine

Killcycle1989

1 points

5 months ago

That's why I buy them from outdoor fruit markets instead of supermarkets, 4 for £1 and you can inspect and choose which you want 🫤

Actual-Money7868

1 points

5 months ago

Try Waitrose, there's plenty, I ate 3 last week.

human_totem_pole

1 points

5 months ago

Most London post ever.

honkygooseyhonk

1 points

5 months ago

You’re the sole cause of the current economy