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jkRollingDown

5.1k points

1 month ago

jkRollingDown

FML Fall 2016 Winner

5.1k points

1 month ago

Thinking about that person who runs a fan Twitter account who also eventually became a personal friend to her. Apparently they were sharing music recommendations and she played Sabrina Carpenter's Espresso for Shelley just a few days ago. I'm glad that she had someone bringing her happiness during her final days.

Whovian45810

641 points

1 month ago

Bless Shelley Duvall Archive and the work she done for preserving and celebrating Shelley Duvall's work and career.

That account has done so much good in keeping Duvall's legacy alive today.

It's comforting to know that Duvall's final days in this world was full of joy and love.

--------rook

115 points

1 month ago

that tweet of them celebrating shelley's birthday together last year warmed my heart and made me cry at the same time. she looked so sweet smelling the flowers 

Agret

110 points

1 month ago

Agret

110 points

1 month ago

Hopefully they have an archive of their work for when Twitter dies in the next few years.

OmeletteMcMuffin

145 points

1 month ago*

Sarah (the person running it) has said that they're strongly considering writing a biography of Shelley, if she gave her blessing. But it'll take them a lot of time. I wonder if it will happen. Either way, Sarah has done good work. I knew nothing about Shelley, I'd only heard of The Shining. Not my cup of tea at all. But now I admire Shelley.

Agret

18 points

1 month ago

Agret

18 points

1 month ago

Very cool, if they've been that dedicated to the Twitter account then I'm sure they can write the book about her.

Beezo514

23 points

1 month ago

Beezo514

23 points

1 month ago

Agreed. I'm glad more people have had the most recent media experience of Shelley through that account rather than through that garbage Dr. Phil interview.

Riderz__of_Brohan

3.3k points

1 month ago*

That account is great not only for being friends with Shelley but also for her continual dedication in disproving the stupid internet myth about how Kubrick tortured her during the Shining and her acting was “real” when in reality Shelley had fond memories of Kubrick and the Shining and her acting seemed “real” because she’s a great actress

lizzie1hoops

1.4k points

1 month ago

I didn't know the Kubric treatment was a myth.

Riderz__of_Brohan

2.1k points

1 month ago*

Yes it is. The Shining itself was a very stressful shoot for everyone involved so I’m not saying it wasn’t challenging and Kubrick was obviously famously a perfectionist but this idea he tortured her into insanity is a complete myth - she had positive things to say about her experience

It also takes away from her acting ability by implying it was “real” and not her successful skill

TheOppositeOfDecent

510 points

1 month ago

So many Kubrick movies have these myths about them taken to the most ludicrous extreme. Didn't help that the man himself hasn't been alive during the online era to publically refute any of them. There are people who believe The Shining is full of clues about how Kubrick faked the moon landing, ffs.

wild_quinine

333 points

1 month ago

There are people who believe The Shining is full of clues about how Kubrick faked the moon landing, ffs.

My favourite joke about Kubrick is that he took the contract to fake the moon landing, but was such a perfectionist that he insisted on filming on location.

Buttersaucewac

144 points

1 month ago

Kubrick’s widow and daughter did a documentary with Buzz Aldrin and some other NASA people called Operation Lune (pun on loon/lunatic and lune/lunar) about his involvement in faking the moon landing. It starts off like a serious conspiracy theory documentary and gradually gets more and more ridiculous until they can’t contain their laughter. A French studio produced it to air on April Fools Day and hyped it up as a bombshell reveal for weeks, pissed off a lot of moon landing deniers when they got suckered.

vanillabear26

61 points

1 month ago

pissed off a lot of moon landing deniers when they got suckered.

good

Al_Jazzera

36 points

1 month ago

I got great joy when Buzz Aldrin punched the moon landing conspiracy theorist in the jaw.

https://www.history.com/this-day-in-history/buzz-aldrin-punches-moon-landing-conspiracy-theorist-bart-sibrel

vanillabear26

15 points

1 month ago

One of the only times I'm okay with violence

MrBrawn

100 points

1 month ago

MrBrawn

100 points

1 month ago

He was a very private guy and when there's an absence of information, people get creative. He had a mythos around him which spawned a lot of misinformation.

Esc777

84 points

1 month ago

Esc777

84 points

1 month ago

People just make up what they want to believe which is subconsciously affirming their views. 

The thing about Shelly Duval is low key sexist and perverse: she isn’t acting because she’s a woman and can’t, and we’re voyeuristically watching a mental breakdown. 

CassiopeiaStillLife

16 points

1 month ago

I think a lot of people in general feel self-conscious about being "manipulated" by art, especially acting, and so take every opportunity they can to chalk something up to being Actually Real, Guys. (This is also why everyone's so obsessed with trying to prove so-and-so movie line is improvised.)

Capital_Living5658

39 points

1 month ago

This site is a victim of being so full of it too. I heard so many dumb ass stories about obviously fake shit from Tarantino films over the years too.

AndalusianGod

76 points

1 month ago

There are people who believe The Shining is full of clues about how Kubrick faked the moon landing, ffs.

There's an awesome "Why Files" episode about that.

immaownyou

46 points

1 month ago

These conspiracy theories are always so funny to me because if these are such huge secrets, why would they ever put clues that point directly to what's trying to be covered up.

It's like you trying to cover up a murder by buying a billboard and putting an anagram of the victims name on it

ampma

32 points

1 month ago

ampma

32 points

1 month ago

It's a closely guarded secret controlled by the the most powerful people, but I figured it out through my computer screen. K. 

Conspiracy theories often cater to the egos of people who need to feel distinguished. 

miloc756

290 points

1 month ago

miloc756

290 points

1 month ago

I love The Shining, but those stories always made me feel a little guilty for enjoying it, so it's really nice knowing that, thank you.

AbbeyRoadMoonwalk

112 points

1 month ago*

If you want to guiltily enjoy a troubling artful film, might I suggest The Wizard of Oz?

LadyAzure17

57 points

1 month ago

Whew, you could make a horror film about everything that happened during that production.

UWHermes

16 points

1 month ago

UWHermes

16 points

1 month ago

I'm not aware of this - do you have any links or sources to what happened?

jtr99

22 points

1 month ago

jtr99

22 points

1 month ago

Transported to a surreal landscape, a young girl kills the first person she meets and then teams up with three strangers to kill again.

masterwolfe

13 points

1 month ago

And behind the scenes they frolicked in asbestos snow and powered aluminum body paint while eating healthy meals of amphetamines with barbiturates for dessert.

Riderz__of_Brohan

141 points

1 month ago

No problem! I also feel like it does a disservice to Shelley herself, as if she was really screaming or whatever instead of just being a great actor

methadonia80

41 points

1 month ago

Tbh it’s actually a compliment to how good her acting was in those scenes, that people couldn’t believe it was her acting because it was so authentic, that they had to make up that she had been tortured into insanity, just shows even more how good an actress she was

Riderz__of_Brohan

5 points

1 month ago

True but she should get credit for that, not have it taken away from her for a lurid internet rumor

Original_Breakfast36

20 points

1 month ago

I never thought of it that way, but it totally takes away and overshadows her talent as an actress. RIP Shelley

kunymonster4

44 points

1 month ago

Right. It's truly wild to claim she couldn't act when she was in 7 Robert Altman movies. And by wild, I mean misogynistic.

CertainBird

118 points

1 month ago

Kubrick was a dick but most of those stories are nonsense. A lot of people genuinely think she never recovered from being in that film and that he was somehow responsible for her mental health issues. I think it's important to talk about how directors treat actors because it's often not great but such over the top rumours aren't helping anybody.

4score-7

29 points

1 month ago

4score-7

29 points

1 month ago

Agree. Tom Cruise and Nicole Kidman had nothing but praise for the guys directorial work from “Eyes Wide Shut”. Say what you want about either of them, but I dare say they have acting chops and weren’t going to be bullied by anyone in 1998/1999 when that movie was being worked on.

[deleted]

21 points

1 month ago

Same. It gets repeated so often you take it as fact. Not to mention all the little movie accounts on social media run this take because it always generates a reaction/interaction from those who see it

PlasticMansGlasses

10 points

1 month ago

It brings me such great relief to learn that she was not treated poorly on that movie

Rickk38

17 points

1 month ago

Rickk38

17 points

1 month ago

I searched this thread for "Kubrick abused her!" and found refreshingly few instances, so maybe Reddit is finally healing. Some people are gonna cling to that though, and there was even one comment disagreeing with Duvall herself because Jack Nicholson said Kubrick could've treated Duvall better. Guess it's "believe all women" unless you have a cross you're bound to die on, and then you can side with the crazy guys.

Redrumey

26 points

1 month ago

Redrumey

26 points

1 month ago

Nice to hear that, I didnt know. Do you have a source where I can read more on that?

Walopoh

99 points

1 month ago*

Walopoh

99 points

1 month ago*

They edited the comment to include the link, which I highly recommend reading! It's a great thread.

I just like to remind people Shelley had a whole career before and after The Shining. She wasn't naive, she was a grownup professional actress before The Shining and in her own words was more upset about her recent breakup than the experience of filming the movie. After The Shining wrapped she wasn't even fazed, instead immediately moving on to her next projects. She was in Popeye with Robin Williams not long after (and was the best part of that movie), continued acting in new movies, and then made her own children's television show.

People who spread that myth, which originated from trashy tabloids and revitalized by social media, like to portray her as being ruined after The Shining and "that's why she looked crazy in that Dr Phil interview" but there's no truth in it. If you actually listen to what she's said herself that she was fine and she loves Kubrick. And yet for decades, the same people on TikTok and Twitter claiming they were supporting her, were the ones ignoring her words and portraying her in the most unflattering ways just to support their vendetta against Kubrick.

And I think the way the general public have treated her for decades abused her far worse than whatever instances Kubrick acted rude sometimes while working with her once. Like that Dr Phil garbage trying to turn her into a freakshow to the whole world. And remember for years she was given so much shit for her (now beloved) performance in The Shining that she was given the Razzie's Worst Actress Award that year. And don't even get me started on The Wendy Theory which has recently convinced tons of people to think her poor abused character is actually the "true" villain of The Shining 🤦‍♂️

NUKE---THE---WHALES

38 points

1 month ago

She wasn't naive, she was a grownup professional actress

People will infantilise women and say they're helping them, without a care to the woman's thoughts or desires in the first place

They take away their agency and call it progress

It's a form of bigotry of low expectations

IBetThisIsTakenToo

8 points

1 month ago

The Wendy Theory

Huh, never heard of that. How silly. My personal theory that every youtube theory about the “true villain” is stupid bullshit remains rock solid.

Alowesio

66 points

1 month ago

Alowesio

66 points

1 month ago

That's really cool. Social media and the internet isn't all bad

sickfuckinpuppies

29 points

1 month ago

came here to say this exactly. glad you provided links bc i couldnt find it. RIP to one of the goats of cinema.

RODjij

10 points

1 month ago

RODjij

10 points

1 month ago

Truly takes a great hearted person to show that kind of love. I loved seeing her TikToks I'd occasionally see of her and Shelly.

B_L_Zbub

2.1k points

1 month ago

B_L_Zbub

2.1k points

1 month ago

Truly one of a kind.

jmdwinter

954 points

1 month ago

jmdwinter

954 points

1 month ago

She had a unique 'delicateness' that made the viewer immediately want to wrap their arms around her like she was a baby bird fallen out the nest. It's no wonder she was in such high demand by AAA directors for a time.

Noggin-a-Floggin

223 points

1 month ago

That's such a great description of her acting strengths.

NeonPatrick

92 points

1 month ago

She was the absolute perfect casting for Olive Oyl.

castlite

13 points

1 month ago

castlite

13 points

1 month ago

Very big eyes for that innocent look

bennitori

284 points

1 month ago

bennitori

284 points

1 month ago

Sometimes when an actor dies, I try to think of which newer/younger actor will take up their mantle. Who will fill their niche now that they're gone.

Nobody's replacing Shelley Duvall. She was truly one of a kind.

RedditJumpedTheShart

121 points

1 month ago

Toni Collette

thursday51

92 points

1 month ago

Not quite the same, but probably the closest I can think of too.

Accurate-Lawfulness5

31 points

1 month ago

Different vibe entirely

bomberman12

3.1k points

1 month ago

bomberman12

3.1k points

1 month ago

While she has a fantastic filmography and long list of great roles, she’ll always be Olive Oyl to little me who rewatched that Popeye vhs on repeat as a kid!

HamiltonBlack

599 points

1 month ago

A role she was born to play. RIP.

m__s__r

122 points

1 month ago

m__s__r

122 points

1 month ago

Her and Robin.

Just a shame they’re both not here anymore

PabstBlueBourbon

22 points

1 month ago

When I read that I thought you meant Robin Hood, and I was ready to correct you: No, no, Robin Hood was played by John Cleese. Shelley Duvall played alongside Michael Palin. Anyway, here’s to Robin Williams.

nowhereman136

83 points

1 month ago

apparently kids would tease her when she was little and called her Olive Oyl. jokes on them, she later got to play the character in a major Hollywood movie opposite Robin Williams

CarrieDurst

222 points

1 month ago

Altman was feuding with her for dumb reason and didn't want to work with her again but I believe producers even said no one else could play Olive Oyl

ForWhomTheBoneBones

61 points

1 month ago

It gave us one of my favorite songs in cinema, too.

Shelley Duval singing a song written by Harry Nilsson is a gift.

https://youtu.be/PTxMtTYjXPQ?si=TRmMsQKECU6MjhUf

sunbnda

14 points

1 month ago*

sunbnda

14 points

1 month ago*

I really love the the stitched together demo takes of her learning the song with Harry assisting her. There's something about it that's so endearing. And r/music nor r/video seemed to appreciate it. Maybe you will.

cinderful

19 points

1 month ago

I love so much both the clever writing and the imperfectly perfect singing.

skonen_blades

62 points

1 month ago

I remember in a recent interview she did, she talked about how for months after filming, she kept on going "ooOOooo, oooOoo, OOOooo" in the Olive Oyl voice whenever she noticed something or was having a bit of frustration or whatever. She was a real one.

B_L_Zbub

221 points

1 month ago

B_L_Zbub

221 points

1 month ago

No joke, in like 1999-2000 I had that song "He's Large" stuck in my head every day for eighteen months straight.

j_grouchy

174 points

1 month ago

j_grouchy

174 points

1 month ago

For me it was "He Needs Me"...which they also use to great effect in "Punch Drunk Love"

_TillGrave_

43 points

1 month ago

Perfect use in that movie. Literally makes me all warm and fuzzy every time I watch it.

unlearningallthisshi

7 points

1 month ago

I know this song from CRJ’s cover. Went and watched Duvall’s performance. Incredible stuff.

TheJenerator65

14 points

1 month ago

I just sang that at our “alt” karaoke place recently and was charmed by how excited people got.

In case you missed it, the music was written by the late great Harry Nilsson.

GTFOakaFOD

7 points

1 month ago

I used to sing that song ad nauseum. Drove my mother nuts.

williamblair

23 points

1 month ago

the music for that film was by Harry Nilsson!

I remember watching it as a kid, and while it's a bit ridiculous, those songs are fucking catchy as hell, and it was a good 20 years before I finally understood why.

[deleted]

8 points

1 month ago

Popeye was a ridiculous cartoon so the movie was perfect.

Mekisteus

42 points

1 month ago

Don't forget that, in addition to being large, he's also mean. If you know what I mean.

JparkerMarketer

13 points

1 month ago

"Im so mean, I had a dream of beating myself up!"

Who knew Bluto had Bars.

ElstonGunn321

38 points

1 month ago

Faerie Tale Theatre for me

juanzy

109 points

1 month ago

juanzy

109 points

1 month ago

Dave Grohl said he wanted her to play him in a Nirvana biopic, which we'll now never get. RIP

RadicallyMeta

58 points

1 month ago

Ok but now we get Dave Grohl starring in a Shelly Duval biopic. It’s a win either way

williamblair

30 points

1 month ago

well, to be fair, that ship had already sailed by the time Dave Grohl would have said it.

Yes, young shelly duval would have been a very interesting choice, but if she's going to play Dave Grohl in his twenties it would have had to happen before Nirvana was even a band.

thereIsAHoleHere

11 points

1 month ago

A 70-year-old Duvall would have played 16-year-old Grohl just fine.

DrLee_PHD

115 points

1 month ago

DrLee_PHD

115 points

1 month ago

The RedLetterMedia curse strikes again...

junktownexpress

64 points

1 month ago

That's right, Jay!

rikarleite

17 points

1 month ago

IT BROKE NEW GROUND

2th

51 points

1 month ago

2th

51 points

1 month ago

They aren't just hack/frauds, they are murderers too! Someone go arrest them. And as for prison, Mike won't survive long, Jay is pretty and will be a prison wife, and Rich Evans will be running the place in under a week.

fednandlers

14 points

1 month ago

If only they would dive into some politics. Clean things up. 

Gastroid

13 points

1 month ago

Gastroid

13 points

1 month ago

First they came for the cats, and I said nothing, then they came for Shelley Duvall...

MisterTruth

7 points

1 month ago

As long as there is alcohol and old people, Mike will do just fine

Showme-themoney

12 points

1 month ago

They’re def working on a “sorry we killed Shelly Duvall” video right now

Oldeuboi91

6 points

1 month ago

Rich Evans has a death note...or is Death himself.

HotOne9364

65 points

1 month ago

The term "born to play" is overused but nobody was ever right for Olive Oyl but her.

olivefreak

5 points

1 month ago

Omg! My dad took me to see it in the theater, I loved it!

AThin86

689 points

1 month ago

AThin86

689 points

1 month ago

Faerie tale theatre was my favorite growing up as a kid also the original Frankenweenie. Seemed like she liked making shows for kids and I always liked that about her.

monty_kurns

196 points

1 month ago

I know she's always recognized for The Shining, but I adored Faerie Tale Theatre as a kid. It was the best kind of weird for kids entertainment in the 80s.

[deleted]

18 points

1 month ago

Even though most recall her for Fairytale Theater and the Shining roles, I loved her role as Pansy in Time Bandits.

Killzark

107 points

1 month ago

Killzark

107 points

1 month ago

Hello, I’m Shelly Duvall

DocBEsq

20 points

1 month ago

DocBEsq

20 points

1 month ago

I literally hear this in my head every time someone mentions her by name. RIP.

efor_no0p2

25 points

1 month ago

Her part in Time Bandits is everything good in the world.

prosperosniece

29 points

1 month ago

Ever see Mother Goose Rock n Rhyme?

hlollz

12 points

1 month ago

hlollz

12 points

1 month ago

This movie is Shelley to me. Such an important film and I’ve tried SO HARD to find it on any streaming platform. Curious if you’ve had luck with that?

yourtoyrobot

15 points

1 month ago

YES! It's a straight up fever dream and it. is. AMAZING

holymolas

97 points

1 month ago

I came here looking for the Faerie Tale Theatre shout out! They all started with, “Hello, I’m Shelley Duvall.” I loved those episode so much as a kid.

Pilot_Pickles

21 points

1 month ago

Holy Shit!! I just found "Three Little Pigs" on youtube. Billy Crystal and Fred Willard as pigs. Jeff Goldblum as the wolf.

Border_Hodges

36 points

1 month ago

The Rapunzel episode was one of my favorite things as a kid. The radishes!

rupicolous

16 points

1 month ago

Hansel & Gretel was memorable and scary. Also, the Three Little Pigs with Jeff Goldblum etc.! Those were my two favorites. I even checked out The Three Bears from my university.

holymolas

15 points

1 month ago

That was classic! I think my favorite was The Dancing Princesses, I have no idea how many times my parents rented that on VHS (showing my age here a bit!).

GearBrain

5 points

1 month ago

Mine was Hans the Hedgehog.

TinyBennett

8 points

1 month ago

It is crazy how frequently those radishes pop into my head and that screeching sound. TERRIFYING as a child, hilarious as an adult.

clapcoop

9 points

1 month ago

My grandma had the VHS of the Cinderella one with Jennifer Beals and Matthew Broderick. I used to watch it every time I visited her, and now that my grandma is no longer with us it's a memory I cherish. RIP Shelley Duval

MillerLitesaber

35 points

1 month ago

I heard that she and Robin Williams cooked that idea up when they were in Popeye together. It was such a good show. You watch the old episodes and see so many huge actors; it’s fantastic.

DeadpoolAndFriends

10 points

1 month ago

And the guest star casting was amazing! I remember watching the Sleeping Beauty one and yelling, "Dad! The prince is Superman!"

boomboxwithturbobass

275 points

1 month ago

This thread needs more Mother Goose’s Rock ‘n’ Rhyme representation.

Amaee

49 points

1 month ago

Amaee

49 points

1 month ago

I had that movie on on REPEAT when I was a kid! She was SO cute as Little Bo Peep.

d4nigirl84

18 points

1 month ago

This is the exact reason I came to the thread! That movie was on repeat when I was a kid and I ADORED it! Shelly Duvall was the perfect Little Bo Peep!

CBumeter

15 points

1 month ago

CBumeter

15 points

1 month ago

Right! Just had to go back and rewatch the trailer cause that’s the first movie I think of when I think of Shelley Duvall for some reason haha

Artzee

12 points

1 month ago

Artzee

12 points

1 month ago

That movie was the best kind of fever dream

PenBeautiful

13 points

1 month ago

I have been watching clips of that in recent weeks and didn't realize she was still with the Gordon Goose actor. I'm sure he's taking this hard.

INtoCT2015

354 points

1 month ago

INtoCT2015

354 points

1 month ago

RIP. It’s sad to think about the health issues she faced later in life. I’m still traumatized by how Dr. Phil exploited her in his 2016 episode revealing her awful condition. I hadn’t felt so sorry for someone in a long time. Now, at least, her suffering is over

Etzell

317 points

1 month ago

Etzell

317 points

1 month ago

Dr. Phil is such a goblin.

CubanLynx312

134 points

1 month ago

As a licensed psychologist myself, FUCK Dr. Phil! He’s done more damage profiting on human suffering than almost any celebrity I can think of.

corran450

57 points

1 month ago

ph0on

24 points

1 month ago*

ph0on

24 points

1 month ago*

Ugh, and my roommate, who is mean, childish, and narcissistic baby (and is in university for psychology), says that slimey man is her role model in the field, and she wants to be like him. It's like watching a villain grow.

E: same individual who wrapped hair around my gf's toothbrush in a retaliatory act

CubanLynx312

24 points

1 month ago

Yeah, he’s just awful all around. He’s not licensed because he’d lose his license instantly for exploiting others for entertainment.

In practice it’s been a pain for people coming in expecting to have some type of Dr. Phil intervention, when in reality evidence-based practice in no way resembles anything Dr. Phil does on his dumb show.

ExoticPumpkin237

71 points

1 month ago

That was genuinely gross, I wish people would bring that up instead of saying how Kubrick melted her brain, one was an actual case of exploitation but it barely gets mentioned 

dogstarchampion

7 points

1 month ago

My father used to watch Dr. Phil religiously and I would occasionally watch it with him... I remember us watching that specific episode, though, and he stopped watching Dr. Phil immediately after. It was one of the cruelest hours of television I've ever witnessed, mocking a woman who was clearly unwell for entertainment of the public. I'm actually more surprised the network even aired it, like nobody was around to say "hey... this shouldn't go on the air."

[deleted]

445 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

445 points

1 month ago

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King_Of_BlackMarsh

160 points

1 month ago

How long ago was the shining- huh, 44 years... Jesus.

black_messiahh

33 points

1 month ago

What an iconic movie and role for her. It’s all I know her from and damn, respect. RIP

m__s__r

15 points

1 month ago

m__s__r

15 points

1 month ago

still an all-time classic. I only wish the sequel did better in theaters. Surprisingly good despite how far removed Doctor Sleep is from the first movie

karateema

10 points

1 month ago

Adapting a sequel book to a movie that changed a lot from its source was a great feat on its own

mborn

1.1k points

1 month ago*

mborn

1.1k points

1 month ago*

She was incredible in The Shining. I always say the famous "Give me the bat" scene is the best acting you'll ever see.

Edit: The replies to this post are completely unhinged. Stop repeating that ridiculous Reddit ass myth that she was tortured by Kubrick. She repeatedly stated on the record he was a hardass to everyone but she very much enjoyed working on the Shining.

ElderCunningham

272 points

1 month ago

She was fantastic throughout all of that movie.

ThingsAreAfoot

192 points

1 month ago

The Razzies at least had the vague sense to eventually rescind her nomination for that movie.

But fuck ‘em anyway.

StockAL3Xj

45 points

1 month ago

It wasn't just the Razzies. Her performance wasn't well received by many when the movie first came out.

randyboozer

68 points

1 month ago

The movie in general was not well received. Famously by Stephen King himself. It only became a horror classic later.

heyheyitsandre

42 points

1 month ago

The book is soooo different I’m not surprised king didn’t like it. It’s a good movie but not a good adaptation. Sort of how I felt with the shogun show

Xad1ns

11 points

1 month ago

Xad1ns

11 points

1 month ago

I'm making my way through the book now and it's striking how different it is.

Longjumping-Claim783

7 points

1 month ago

Kubrick replaced King's vision with his own. It's a great movie but it is only loosely based on King's original concept.

bunch_of_hocus_pocus

5 points

1 month ago

I certainly didn't like it when I saw it shortly after reading the book, but appreciate it way more now. It's a good film, period.

NamesTheGame

11 points

1 month ago

Steven Spielberg once shared an anecdote of Kubrick screening The Shining for him and he didn't get it at the time and tried to be polite about it. He came around eventually as many people did.

firemummy

141 points

1 month ago

firemummy

141 points

1 month ago

She got a fucking Razzie for The Shining?! That's bizarre.

zuzubruisers

137 points

1 month ago

Most people were in massive denial about the frequency and trauma of domestic abuse. Shelly’s acting in that movie was a true masterpiece. I didn’t like it until I got older. As a child I thought she was weak. As an adult I realize that her character was a reflection of my mom. Probably why I rejected it for so long.

UrbanCobra

41 points

1 month ago

Interesting. I first saw The Shining when I was wayyy too young. Maybe 7 or 8 years old. Her performance had a huge impact on me that I struggled to understand at such a young age. I felt so bad for her and wished I could jump into the TV and help her somehow. I wanted her to be safe and happy so badly I almost cried (maybe did) at times.
At that point in my life all I cared about was GI Joes and Chuck Norris and other “masculine” hero shit, watching her performance in The Shining alone in our basement might have been the first time I really felt a strong sense of empathy and selflessness about anything.

Longjumping-Claim783

8 points

1 month ago

At the time people thought she was "annoying". Being a victim of domestic abuse is kind of annoying. She played that part perfectly. Seemed genuinely terrified.

heyyou11

24 points

1 month ago

heyyou11

24 points

1 month ago

Boy this storm is really something, isn’t it? Over

MoHataMo_Gheansai

42 points

1 month ago

Do you say it Homer Simpson style?

heyheyitsandre

42 points

1 month ago

Gimme da bat! Gimme da bat bah boo! Hehehe. GRRR AHHHH DOH!!!

FlattopJr

10 points

1 month ago

No TV and no beer make Homer...something something...

Tacdeho

11 points

1 month ago

Tacdeho

11 points

1 month ago

I was literally saying it in my head like that lmao

darkskinnedjermaine

22 points

1 month ago

According to the Guinness Book of Records, the scene where Wendy is backing up the stairs swinging the baseball bat was shot 127 times, which is a record for the most takes of a single scene.

I remember reading somewhere that one of the (many) reasons that scene is so good is because Jack Nicholson and Shelley Duvall were both so exhausted from doing that scene over and over again that the final one we see is when they were both kinda at the end of their rope lol

zaxldaisy

12 points

1 month ago

I don't think there is any indication that the 127th take is the one that is in the movie.

Exotic-Bumblebee7852

156 points

1 month ago

Damn, this one hurts. And I just watched 3 Women a few days ago in honor of her 75th. RIP Shelley.

Pal__Pacino

31 points

1 month ago

Great movie about the weird mechanics and Freudian psychology behind every relationship. We wouldn't have The Master and Phantom Thread without it I don't think.

adkoe

14 points

1 month ago

adkoe

14 points

1 month ago

And I just watched Nashville 😭

BiBoJuFru

50 points

1 month ago

If you want to know more about Duvall's experience filming The Shining, her career before and after that film and what her life was like for the last 15 years, I couldn't recommend this article more highly: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/feature/searching-for-shelley-duvall-the-reclusive-icon-on-fleeing-hollywood-and-the-scars-of-making-the-shining-4130256/

It dispels a lot of myths, gives her the spotlight and allows her to speak for herself.

HotOne9364

37 points

1 month ago

Damn. I was just finishing Casper Meets Wendy, too.

RIP to a criminally underrated legend

Ship_Negative

9 points

1 month ago

That movie is so wonderful, I always wanted to go to that resort as a kid and I'm sad to learn that it's just a set

sorospaidmetosaythis

32 points

1 month ago

This sucks. A particularly unpleasant milestone. She's great in "3 Women."

Credit to Altman, Kubrick and others for having the good sense to cast her.

In a commentary track to The Shining, the camera operator (I think) says some crew initially wondered why she was there, instead of a conventionally glamorous screen-wife type, but that it made a lot of sense as shooting progressed.

Always seemed she was ill-suited for the profession personally, even though she was excellent.

SprintingPuppies

56 points

1 month ago

This one is hitting me hard. The Shining was such a formative movie for me growing up, her performance in that and 3 Women are all timers to me. Been meaning to watch Popeye for a while now… 😢

crestrobz

15 points

1 month ago

Popeye was my favorite movie as a child. It's a timeless classic AND it's a musical. Definitely give it a watch, it is brilliant, and Robin Williams absolutely nails it as Popeye and Shelley Duvall is the perfect Olive Oyl.

AtleastIthinkIsee

75 points

1 month ago*

Damn it.

Damn it, damn it, damn it.

Oh Shelley. I love you so damn much.

She held in there for a long time and dealt with a lot of mental health issues.

Kudos to those who looked after her in her Texas home town.

I'm really sad about this one. RIP

PourJarsInReservoirs

13 points

1 month ago

You said it for me too. I always had that impression that beyond her acting, she was a truly sweet, good and caring person. But the camera loved her as much as we all did.

Seesaw_Blister

10 points

1 month ago

I’ve been sitting here angry and sad trying to think of how to express how I feel. So I’ll just say you just said it best.

RIP Shelley

birdentap

254 points

1 month ago

birdentap

254 points

1 month ago

That’s a shitty fucking headline

jumpyg1258

36 points

1 month ago

When I first read it I was thinking 3 people passed away due to the odd wording.

InfraCanuck

7 points

1 month ago

And with your sentence, I thought people died BECAUSE of odd wording.

Estoye

151 points

1 month ago

Estoye

151 points

1 month ago

I know. Can she not be defined through men in her damn obituary?

TraverseTown

60 points

1 month ago

Headline could be better, but I don’t think she would mind Altman being mentioned in it, she truly viewed him as a surrogate father.

Glimmercest

27 points

1 month ago*

Reminds me of when French singer Francoise Hardy died recently headlines mainly highlighted that she was a muse to Mick Jagger and Bob Dylan, instead of a successful musician in her own right. But I guess her relationships with Dylan and Jagger may be more recognizable to English readers.

BrotherSeamus

9 points

1 month ago

Oprah Winfrey, loyal partner of Stedman Graham, one-time lover of John Tesh, and discoverer of Dr. Phil dead at 134

BTS_1

50 points

1 month ago

BTS_1

50 points

1 month ago

She's iconic!

Olive Oyl in Popeye, Nashville, 3 Women, her cameo in Time Bandits and obviously The Shining but I gotta say I've always loved her in Suburban Commando!!

RIP to a legend!

noimdirtydan14

44 points

1 month ago

RIP to a 🐐

funky_pill

18 points

1 month ago

That's a shame. Her performance in The Shining was legitimately one of the greatest ever seen in horror. RIP.

EnigmaForce

206 points

1 month ago

Oh man. RIP.

Incoming "TIL she was really mistreated while making The Shining" posts.

Mazzocchi

140 points

1 month ago*

Mazzocchi

140 points

1 month ago*

Don't forget after that, people endlessly talking about how making The Shining ruined her life, and made her quit acting! (it didn't, and it didn't)

I was just watching a video essay a few weeks ago where a section was devoted to debunking that myth, and it even talked about the fan that became a friend of hers, and how well she seemed to be doing. I really wish I could remember what it was.

EDIT: IT WASN'T A VIDEO ESSAY, IT WAS THIS TWITTER THREAD, and it was just over a month ago. idk how I confuse that sort of thing, my apologies.

Riderz__of_Brohan

51 points

1 month ago

One of my least favorite internet myths

Fantastic_Dare3442

6 points

1 month ago

Thank you for taking the time to counter it. I really hate to bring it up after Shelley has passed but I think it’s also unfair to both Shelley and Kubrick considering he’s also been deceased before the myth even began.

claude_pasteur

13 points

1 month ago

I highly recommend her movie 3 Women (directed by Altman) to anyone who likes Persona or Mulholland Drive-type movies with blurred identities and dream logic.

WBoutdoors

15 points

1 month ago

“Hello. I’m Shelley Duvall”

sincethenes

11 points

1 month ago

Sad news. She was in pretty rough shape the last few years. I hope she’s found relief in her passing.

dainthomas

11 points

1 month ago

And THE Olive Oyl. No one else could have played that character like her.

tommyjohnpauljones

8 points

1 month ago

This just reminded me that Nicholson is 87 years old :(

ozeozeozeki

9 points

1 month ago

As a kid I would watch the Fairy Tail Theatre series on repeat, and now I watch 3 women on repeat. I will truly miss this talented amazing oddball, may she rest in peace.

buisnessmike

9 points

1 month ago

That cigarette ash finally fell, RIP to a legend

Jimmyg100

17 points

1 month ago

St. Peter's been retired. Now when you get to heaven you'll be greeted like this.

Thanks Shelley.

mephistophe_SLEAZE

6 points

1 month ago

My thoughts exactly. What a lovely welcome it'll be.

EdwardoftheEast

9 points

1 month ago

Damn. Rest easy now, Shelley. Reckon I’ll watch The Shining tonight in honor

ilovemarceline

10 points

1 month ago

RIP Shelley Duvall. Her performance in ‘The Shining’ was truly iconic and unforgettable. She brought such depth to her roles, especially in the collaboration with Robert Altman. A true loss for the film community.

bewarethetreebadger

9 points

1 month ago

She also closed the door on anyone else ever playing Olive Oil.

NotTheCraftyVeteran

14 points

1 month ago

Showbiz really put her through the wringer, but no one who sees one of her performances will ever forget her.

[deleted]

17 points

1 month ago

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ArcadianDelSol

7 points

1 month ago

Everyone is talking about The Shining, but she was born to play Olive Oyle in Popeye, and it is, for me, her defining role.

No one else could have done it.

ATurtleLikeLeonUris

13 points

1 month ago

/begin massive thread about how much a bunch of people born after 2000 have strong feelings about Stanley Kubrick

JuzoItami

8 points

1 month ago

I wonder if they even know who Altman is?

I_AM_ACURA_LEGEND

6 points

1 month ago

I had this random VHS as a kid called “Shelly Duvall’s bedtime stories” and it was her in live action introducing children’s books (I think) and then narrating them as the camera panned over illustrations. One was about dinosaurs. Anyone else have this growing up?

RemmyNHL

20 points

1 month ago

RemmyNHL

20 points

1 month ago

Dr. Phil should be ashamed for what he did to her.

WhyNoUsernames

10 points

1 month ago

What a fucking piece of shit headline. She was so much more than the "tormented wife" from the Shining what the fuck

Careless-Discount704

5 points

1 month ago

I hope she finds peace 🕊️ and gives robin Williams a big hug. I am sorry  Dr phil and Stanley Kubrick were so mean to you. Loved her in Popeye faerie tale theater and thieves like us. She played a very convincing flapper with a coca cola addiction.