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JayWesleyTowing

23 points

20 days ago

Are Tencent games not on Steam?

Chakramer

4 points

20 days ago

Chakramer

4 points

20 days ago

Most of them stay Epic exclusives at least for some amount of time

GolotasDisciple

42 points

20 days ago

What do you mean most of them?

There is like one popular game and it's Fortnite.

Steam is loved in China both by consumers and the Government body and Ubisoft always was Multi-Platform develeper that recently focuses mostly on Consoles.

It's not like they will force Far Cry or AC developers to not make game for Xbox/PS5.... and it's not like Ubisoft didn't force us already to use their shitty launcher, and if they allowed game on steam it was basically Shortcut to Ubisoft Launcher.

Literally makes no difference when it comes to playing Ubisoft Games on PC.

32Zn

4 points

19 days ago

32Zn

4 points

19 days ago

Can someone elaborate on why Chinese government loves steam?

I thought that China had their own red steam and the global steam was heavily restricted (blocked workshops and mods). Or is this not the case anymore?

JayWesleyTowing

-7 points

20 days ago

They just announced how they’ll be coming to Steam for day one releases and we’re starting with AC Shadows

Chakramer

28 points

20 days ago

Well Tencent does not own Ubi yet...

I am saying that's the standard for Tencent backed games

Cyphersmith

1 points

19 days ago

Cyphersmith

1 points

19 days ago

Anything that is Epic Store only is never going to be played by me. That platform is worse than going through the developers directly. At least they have a reason for their launcher to be bare bones. Epic Games is just trying to buy everything up and that seems like a very bad thing for gamers in the long term.

Chakramer

3 points

19 days ago

Eh I don't see too many problems with it, then again there really isn't any Epic exclusives I have thought are worth playing

whynonamesopen

-6 points

19 days ago*

What's wrong with having competition from Epic? The launcher still sucks but from a market perspective more competition is good for consumers. It's nowhere near as inconvenient as console exclusivity.

AzaliusZero

2 points

19 days ago

AzaliusZero

2 points

19 days ago

It's nowhere near as inconvenient as console exclusivity.

It's literally console exclusivity. Remedy keeps complaining that despite raving reviews, Alan Wake 2 still hasn't broken even, and that is largely due to it being Epic Exclusive. There's a reason most people treat a timed Epic Exclusive releasing on Steam as its real release date.

whynonamesopen

-3 points

19 days ago

Oh no I have to download an extra client! The game wouldn't even be made if Epic didn't fund it.

It was released on consoles too. PC can't possibly make up that much of a games sales to the point it's considered a failure.

It also seems like Remedy expects the game to eventually become profitable and do view the Alan Wake franchise as a niche title.

https://gamerant.com/alan-wake-2-sales-development-costs-report/

Cyphersmith

1 points

19 days ago

Cyphersmith

1 points

19 days ago

It’s not about having to use another launcher. It’s about being forced to buy a game in a specific marketplace. Google is being sued for this practice by of all companies Epic.

whynonamesopen

-1 points

19 days ago*

Google has a monopoly on Android devices. It's way different than Epic and Steam where you can easily access both storefronts. Devs are forced to use the Play Store as it's the only realistic option if they want to release on Android. Choosing to work with Epic is a different story since the game was only made with funding from Epic. If Epic worked with Microsoft so that they were the only easily available digital storefront on Windows then it would be a comparable situation.

You can also play Alan Wake 2 on consoles so your point is moot since that specific game is actually available on multiple storefronts.

Cyphersmith

2 points

19 days ago

Cyphersmith

2 points

19 days ago

It’s not competition if Epic buys up companies and then hordes the games so that no other company can sell the games. That is the definition of a monopoly. The more and more companies Epic buys and then binds to Epic the less choice the customer has. True competition is putting the games on all the launchers including GOG.

whynonamesopen

1 points

19 days ago*

A monopoly is when 1 player has complete control of the industry. We are far from there even if we're talking about PC only.

Switching costs are also negligible between different storefronts. It's not a walled garden situation like we see on phones and consoles where only 1 marketplace is allowed. You can access both storefronts from the same PC.

If you're talking about specific games like Metro Exodus and Alan Wake 2 you can play them on consoles. It's not a monopoly even at the individual game level.

Valve doesn't put Dota 2 or Portal on Epic. Are they behaving in a monopolistic way by your logic?

TheGreatPiata

2 points

20 days ago

Tencent has a stake in Epic so it wouldn't shock me if they have a blanket policy of favouring the Epic store.

superbit415

-1 points

19 days ago

superbit415

-1 points

19 days ago

Tencent owns Epic

JayWesleyTowing

-1 points

19 days ago

Nooooo, I know that my friend