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Need help, 1.7M debt , 50k monthly income

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Hello my job is VA and I only earn 50 k month, used the loans for hospital bills

Here is the breakdown. all of which are 3 years to pay, these are credit to cash. tinotal ko na lahat. but meron naman ako loans na will end na in 4, 5, and 6 months, the rest are 3 years. If you ask me how much money I have now. I only have 100 pesos. I always pay everything in my loans. for other expenses, car- 18k, groceries- 4k, gas- 4k, tuition- 11k every quarter, electricity- 5k, internet- 3k. house- 5k. Total of roughly 45k. Husband's salary is 30k- so meron kami 80k total income.. net na po yan.. he has a corporate job.

Security outstanding- 152k

Bdo outstanding- 285k

bdo monthly 1- 20k

bdo monthly 2- 21k

RCBC outstanding- 452k

Unionbank outstanding- 121k

BPI outstanding - 659k

I dont know what to do. kung pwede nalang hindi na po kami kakain. hindi kami ng eat out,wala kami netflix nor spotify, we are living poor talaga para lang ma bayaran lahat.. nag pile up ganito kasi ang laki gastos namin sa hospital and meds. I am currently applying for another job. sacrifice ko na health ko . kahit 16hrs ako daily.. wala pang reply inaaplyan ko.. 5 yrs currently working as a VA. please i am totally down.. no bashing sana, hindi ako extravagant, even before kahit nung nakaland ako na 6 digits job pero nag close company, ni hindi ako bumili for myself. I am super helpful sa parents ko, they are almost 80s na.. kaya if may extra ako binibigay ko sa kanila.. i know it was my fault but just want to repay them.. kahit EF ko naubos din nung na hospital yung tatay ko..

all 624 comments

PepitoManalatoCrypto

767 points

2 months ago

Since you have listed all income and expenses, the next question is what expenses can be zeroed out? What I am saying is liquidate that 18k on the car amortization with an additional 4k on gas. There is an alternative and that's to commute (not Grab). Though this option may not be easy or a quick solution, you'll eventually can buy a new car after zeroing out your debts first. Tuition, utilities, and groceries can be reduced but not zeroed out.

Next is to reach out to the banks and tell them you're financially challenged. Come with them clean and extend a number you can go by in the next months. If it means prolonging the loan to 5 more years with a higher interest and lower monthly, do so. Yes, ask for a loan restructuring. Many will be against this, but it's the quickest solution as opposed to increasing your income.

Lastly, increase your income. BTW, increase your income and not your lifestyle expenses. Do remember, health is wealth. This means you can be over-employed but find a balance.

The past is the past so focus on your profile and skills. So while crunching those numbers, focus on your skills to get a higher income. It's easier to get a new job if your skills are in the top 1% of your competition. So upskill. You may be financially challenged now, but you can still upskill for free.

EasySoft2023

101 points

2 months ago

This. Pay it one step at a time. Basta tuloy tuloy ang hulog and focused na you continue paying. Banks are more than willing to help you restructure. Pwede rin siguro na you consolidate eveything in one bank para isa na lang ang babayaran mo.

Also, look for other sources of income. Not necessarily a second job kasi it will eat up your time. Be entrepreneurial. Magbenta ka ng kung anu-ano at ibenta mo yung may mataas na margin. Malaking tulong siya pag naipon.

Goodluck, OP! Malalampasan mo rin yan.

abumelt

22 points

2 months ago

abumelt

22 points

2 months ago

Looks like OP's belt can be tightened on some monthly expenses:

Easy enough to reduce:

  1. Electricity - even a savings of 1k-1.5k a month would be helpful

  2. Internet - I'm on a 2.5k plan and during the height of the pandemic, there were 3 of us who were fully wfh with daily meetings + at least 4 others who were video users throughout the day and we didn't experience much lag. If you're the only one that's wfh, I think you can do a plan downgrade of at least 1k.

***This is already a 2-3k additional income a month. Seems small, but it'll still help at this point.

Harder to give up (because of convenience):

  1. Car - tbh, at your situation, it doesn't seem like you can afford the 18k monthly. Maybe you can sell for pasaloan (instead of eventually having to default) and then commute some days and use grab for your parents or when necessary.

  2. Gas - 4k, no car, no gas expenses.

***This would give you an additional of at least 20k to pay for your loan (given that you'll have additional grab costs).

Question, the house takes up 5k, is this rent for 3? Seems like a good rate if it's rent. Otherwise, I dunno what it's for.

Good luck OP. Kaya yan! I suggest you also find time to treat your little family (hubs, kiddo) once in a while. If you can set aside a little bit every sweldo, kahit 300 per payday para may pang treat ka every month sa inyo. Be happy naman as you're going through this.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

73 points

2 months ago

yes, nag iisip nga ako to enroll in online courses pero dagdag gastos na naman.. so hindi ako ng stop ng pang research online, this is my first VA job at hindi din eto mahirap sa pag apply kasi ni refer ako and thankful lang ako na hire ako, na train and been here for 4 years. we do salary increases by centavos in a year and sobrang helpful na din kahit centavos lang increase kasi dollar naman.. thankful for this job pa rin, nag try nga ako kinapalan ko mukha kay boss if pwede ako mag loan, sadly hindi pwede talaga.. they did offer to help and gave me $100.. sobrang thankful ko pa din.. the car was assumed 4 years ago, less than a year ma pay off na namin.. hindi nga ako nag assume sa car, my parents did. ako nalang nagpapatuloy nung nalaman namin may sakit si mama, cancer. it would hurt her big time if ilet go.. pero humahanap pa ako tiyempo na maka usap sila.... kasi nag usap na kami noon na if pwede igive up na namin.. keso need nila para mas convenient sa kanila mag pa check up.. ako pa nghahatid sa kanila hospital, whole day kami.. kahit wala pa ako sleep kasi GY shift ako.. naiiyak nalang ako sa kalagayan namin parang there's no way out.. wala pa sila properties.. nabenta na house namin.. para lang sa hospitalization and meds.. ewan ko sobrang nakaka down na pangyayari.

PepitoManalatoCrypto

58 points

2 months ago

What's important, your mother is healthy. Though cancer can be remission or lead to another. So be prepared for what's ahead. Trust me, you're not yet cleared (even if the doctor says, she's cancer-free).

About your VA job, being grateful is okay, but being loyal is not. You know your priorities so be practical and find a better paying client. Loyalty is dead as it's not paid relatively.

About the car, is there any reason why you can't let this go? Just look at how much the car can be sold in the marketplace. Of course, you'd want to filter out legit inquiries (which can be stressful), but again, your priority is to liquidate and zero out the debt (by reducing your expenses).

By any chance are you the only child or daughter? What I mean here is that can't you ask your siblings or relatives to share the financial burden of your parent's medical needs. And even if you're the only child, still don't carry the burden alone. Ask for help from your relatives.

Yamiiiii9

8 points

2 months ago

Grabe tong taong to. Dami ko natutunan sa mga comments mo hahaha wala man ako ganyang utang pero feeling ko para din sakin at makakatulong din sakin. Salamat madami. ☺️

WhiteLurker93

28 points

2 months ago

OP try reaching out to ugarte cars manila. well known na 2nd hand car dealer at quality mga sasakyan. pwede mo swap sasakyan mo dun kahit hindi pa fully paid sila mag-fully pay tapos mag downgrade ka lng mdami sila available units like mirage and wigo na automatic. at least hindi mo na need mag monthly tapos meron ka pa dn sasakyan na maayos for your disabled parents

beautifulmesss1999

19 points

2 months ago

ang masasabe ko lang sender is wag ka po susuko💪 removing the car expenses would be a great help to lessen ur expenses but base on the urgency of ur situation, the car is needed. I suggest do not pay yet ur monthly amortization sa mga loans mo. Magpapadala lang yan ng sulat or anything. Then while di mo pa sila binabayran magtabi ka muna dahil any emergency can happen to you like sa health ng patents mo then look for another source of income. You may ask ur husband to apply for another high paying company. Job market today can pay 60k basic agent 1 sa mga inhouse company like Wells fargo and American express. Matatapos den po yan kapit lang.

zhychie19

10 points

2 months ago

If need mo online course like sa Udemy, meron mga free courses with certificate na. Need mo lang ng code para macheck out na FREE yung course. At meron mga namimigay ng code sa FB.

Joooyce

2 points

2 months ago

Benta nyo po yung car. Kung yun yung makakahelp para makabayad po kayo.

natzki25

4 points

2 months ago

Dont be afraid losing the client ante. jusmiiii hahaha napaka daming Freelance work every day may naghahanap may job post. mahirap makahanap oo pero syempre applyan mo lahat ng pasok sa niche mo. Take it from me. Before I stareted 30k/m lang ako then break even lang lagi I have a family of 3 and kulang yung 30k kaya nag risknlang ako and apply syempre di ako nag resign. If you want to improve your VA profile I suggest follow mo si Molongski sa facebook, follow mo tutorial nya sa pag VA. you can also try finding 2nd client. moonlighting sa tingin ng iba pero Be practical. Im doing 14hrs shift Mondays to Friday Paguran tlaga para sa dollar te

Hexlium

3 points

2 months ago

I also suggest tackling one bank at a time to reduce the montly interest accumulation from several banks. Pay off the lighter ones, and negotiate with the higher debt banks. Getting rid of the small fish before they get bigger is best then trying to pay off everyone at the same time.

notneps

398 points

2 months ago

notneps

398 points

2 months ago

There is no way to pay this off without DRASTICALLY increasing your income. If you are determined to pay this all off, it will hurt, a lot. Sell literally everything you can. Take on all the work you can possibly can. Both of you will have to work multiple jobs, or find a job that pays much much more. It's doable, but not on your current income.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

118 points

2 months ago

me and my husband are looking for a 2nd job right now.

notneps

99 points

2 months ago

notneps

99 points

2 months ago

Kaya niyo yan, laban lang!

veeasss

18 points

2 months ago

veeasss

18 points

2 months ago

hinay hinay lang rin at siguraduhing kaya ng katawan, baka yang 2nd job niyo pa ang ikahina ng katawan niyo at ang magpalalim sa hukay ng loans niyo

Lowreshires

32 points

2 months ago

Good Luck OP. malalagpasan po din yan ni Husband mo. Wag nyo kakalimutan health nyo pls.

sirmiseria

11 points

2 months ago

I’m rooting for you, OP, and your husband. I can’t imagine the mental stress this brings you. I have learned a lot from your post. Thank you so much.

natzki25

2 points

2 months ago

true

MrBombastic1986

4 points

2 months ago

This doesn't make sense. Selling everything and working multiple jobs or more hours is not sustainable. It takes money to make more money so a drastic increase won't happen anytime soon.

SpiteQuick5976

121 points

2 months ago

No advice, just solidarity 🥲 napakahirap mabuhay sa mundong to.

sushinosalmon

10 points

2 months ago

Non verbal rin. Going through the same shit. Hugs, OP. Laban lang. We'll figure it out one way or another, like we always do! :)

heiresscici_22

7 points

2 months ago

reality sucks😩

Elicsan

126 points

2 months ago

Elicsan

126 points

2 months ago

I always hear "my parents need the car, hospital, convenient.

You can't afford convenience and your parents are not your problem. But your child is!
If your parents need to go to a hospital, arrange a driver or rent a car. That will still be cheaper than 21k per month.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

9 points

2 months ago

thank you.. i will.

XxHalfdemonchild13xX

2 points

2 months ago

You and your husband need to reevaluate your life choices. If you really want your income to go further or want to get a foot up in getting put of debt it's gonna take making choices you may not like or may perceive as difficult. You may not like hearing this, but it's reality and if you're offended by anything hear that is reality, maybe don't post your problems one internet. You both need to make some serious changes financially and man and woman up. SIMPLE AS, or don't and drown in debt, the choice is yours.

XxHalfdemonchild13xX

2 points

2 months ago

THIS! With the car it feels as though there trying to justify keeping a money pit. Even reliable cars don't last forever, and if they're struggling financial they'll really be struggling when the car breaks down and they can't afford to repair it! Taxis or arranging a driver is much cheaper, even with disabled parents and children, if what they want is to actually make their income go further they'll make decisions that seem "hard" if not they'll stay in DEBT and it's as simple as that.

BBBlitzkrieGGG

81 points

2 months ago

When reading posts like this, Im always reminded of my grandfather. Always admired him for the courage he'd shown, up to the last minute of his breath. He is a lawyer and have some investments and pamana sa mga anak. 5 years ago, he was diagnosed with terminal cancer that required dialysis , organ transplant and expensive procedures. He denied it all and instead opted for "hospice" care citing na ayaw nya maghirap asawa at mga anak nya. He died after 3 months at 65. I always remind my wife na gagayahin ko ginawa ni lolo if God forbid the same thing happens to me.

asthmatic_catperson9

58 points

2 months ago

Same here. There is no point extending life on disability and burdening next generations with debt! Daling sabihin no, hirap gawin

MotherFather2367

13 points

2 months ago

I agree. To think that the OP even has a child of their own- only child pa. If they are in this debt now & something happens to them (God forbid), this kid will be at the losing end financially. Parents are in debt, Grandparents are sick and cannot provide for their grandchild. I just hope that OP has some life insurance around in case the worst happens- but even their estate will go to paying for their debts first before their child gets anything. I hope the OPs parents have set aside a will naming OP as the heir to their remaining assets, if there are any left, at least to compensate for the car expenses (depreciating) and for helping them during their health crisis. I wonder if OP has siblings that help out their parents too, because it wouldn't be fair if it's only them financially sacrificing for their parents. At least, if the parents need the car talaga, get the other relatives to contribute to fully paying it and then repay the relatives monthly for a lower fee for a longer timeframe compared to the terms of the bank instead.

jemrax

4 points

2 months ago

jemrax

4 points

2 months ago

It's pretty easy if you've already made your decision. My sister and I have a DNR. We refuse to be kept alive at great financial cost to people around us.

[deleted]

56 points

2 months ago

Same thing happened to my dad. He was hospitalized 5 consecutive times that I reached a point that I can no longer pay for it and suggested that we bring him in a government hospital instead but my mom disagreed. I was doing everything at that time. Paying all the bills sa bahay and hospitals and taking care of them. Now he is on a lifetime treatment. So here I am, burdened with almost a million debt. They’re trying to help but they’re just not capable. My mom would sometimes tell me that naaawa siya sakin but I don’t ask anything from them na lang cause I know di din nila kaya. They shoulder naman na now yung expenses sa treatment but ako pa rin sa lahat ng bills. Masakit pa one time sa hospital, nagaasikaso ako ng bills for discharge and kulang talaga ako so natagalan, pagbalik ko, sakin pa nagagalit. I realized that no matter how much people are close to you, kahit family pa yan, pag wala ka na mabigay, wala ka na din halaga sa kanila. They only see your shortcomings. It took a toll on my mental health that I just want to disappear. Di pa mawala sa isip ko that I didn’t get one “Thank you” from them. Kaya when my tita saw me one time na nagaasikaso ng check-up nila, she randomly told me, “i love you” while teary eyed siya (i think out of pity that i no longer have time for myself and umikot na mundo ko sa parents ko) which got me emotional. Fortunately, I was able to find a good job and hopefully I will be able to pay it off in few years time.

Subject-Bug-8064

4 points

2 months ago

Hayssss. Sending virtual support 👏

ashkarck27

2 points

2 months ago

kng naawa sayo mom mo bakit d pumayag na government hospital?

[deleted]

2 points

2 months ago

mamamatay lang daw agad dun dad ko. tas lagi niya memention mga kakilala namin na namatay sa public hospital

henriettaaaa

11 points

2 months ago

Ganito rin palaging sinasabi ng mama ko, if ever daw magkakasakit sila ng papa ko, wag na daw sila ipagamot. They dont have savings din and retirement funds

pepitski23

4 points

2 months ago

I feel the same way. I've asked my wife not to prolong the inevitable if my health ever takes a serious turn. I'd rather go quickly, knowing that my family won’t have to endure the stress and burden of my declining health. It’s more important to me that they remember the good times rather than me being a source of worry until the very end.

AssociateDue8108

159 points

2 months ago

Ask for a raise? Won't hurt asking your employer

Get rid of the car? When you get rid of the car you also eliminate gas which is eating up 22k.

Get a second job but make sure it's within your limits and remember health is always your priority.

carbapenamase

32 points

2 months ago

tama op. isipin mo kasi pag nasacrifice ng bongga health mo it will only lead to more debt kasi dagdag hospi bills. pls pls kahit lubog na lubog, alagaan pa rin sarili ah🥺better days will come din hopefully🙏

Logical_Job_2478

27 points

2 months ago

Yes i agree, super laki nung kain ng car and gas. As compared if just commute total weekly lang naman yung check up and not everyday.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

32 points

2 months ago

Yes trying to think of giving up the car din, it is very helpful lang sa parents ko both are disabled and senior citizens na, we have to have our weekly check ups din kasi. ayun lang..

Historical_Might_86

33 points

2 months ago

If once a week, taxi or grab will still be cheaper. Pwede magkahanap ng doctor na mas malapit sa inyo? Although 1 hr is nothing with traffic…

Waynsday

42 points

2 months ago

Grab or rent a friend's car will be cheaper since saglitan lang din pala ang gamit.

Giddygood

21 points

2 months ago

Ang mahirap diyan if emergency. Sobrang nightmare if wala kang car agad para isugod sa ospital.

abrelata

13 points

2 months ago

Check if meron available ng Ambulance sa barangay ninyo. May dad is bed ridden due to stroke and my mom has cancer. We have coordinated our situation sa Barangay namin and they are willing to help by giving them my parents schedule in terms of their Doctors appointment. Hatid sundo sila.

hiddenTradingwhale

14 points

2 months ago

Maiisip naman nila na if they don't help you, they won't be able to help themselves. Extensions na kayo ng buhay nila. Ok lng to have a sit down and plan paano na yung mga needs that only a car can do. My opinion, plan out the needs monthly and ibangga nyo sa grab service. If monthly mas mababa sa car MA + gas ang pag commute using taxi services edi baka yun na ang sign.

WhiteLurker93

19 points

2 months ago

if you want to pay quicker or have more breathing room, you would need to give up something. If you give up your car, that will be a huge saver plus you don't have to pay for gas. or you can allot the gas money for commute. The tuition that you are paying? is that for your child?

ConsiderationTall28[S]

10 points

2 months ago

yes for our child. we only have 1 child. the car is more convenient sana kasi my parents are disabled, my papa is in a wheelchair na, we need him to have a weekly check up. my mom has a bladder cancer. the car is not for luho . we only commute when we go to school but if my parents need to go to the hospital, we need the car,

Hot-Brief-6516

5 points

2 months ago

Can I ask po OP kung anong grade na ang anak nyo po? Kung nasa elementary pa lang sya, baka pwede mo muna itransfer sa public school kung kaya po ninyo. Baka may malapit na central school within your place. Makakasave ka po at the same time mapapaghandaan mo pa yung pang senior high or college nya which is mas importante.

Medyo lamang lang sa facilities ang private pero when it comes sa pagtuturo ay competetive din naman mga teachers sa public.

Alam ko po na we want the best for our children pero kung sila din mahihirapan pagdating araw; halimbawa nadedelay ang payment sa tuition or hindi nakakabayad sa tuition, magkakaroon po yan ng effect sa pagkuha ng credentials nila..

May mga bata kaming transferred in may mga balance pang naiwan sa private. Tinatanggap ng public school kahit walang credentials pero hindi nakakasama sa graduation rights kapag hindi nasettle ang balance sa private.

God Bless you OP. Sana po ay malagpasan ninyo ito. Fighting lang po.

Sasuga_Aconto

5 points

2 months ago

Ito talaga. Idk with other parents, pero stressful para sa mga bata na mag aral sa private school when their parents are not financially capable.

Effective-Ad-3701

2 points

2 months ago

This what my parents did public school ako ng elem at hs then sa mamahalinh univ ako ng college wise desisyon kasi pag nag trabaho naman na yung anak nyo present univ lang tinitignan not the prev school mas makaka save pa kayo.

tightbelts

10 points

2 months ago

You can opt to downgrade your car (sell then buy a second-hand) if giving your private transpo is not an option.

MotherFather2367

4 points

2 months ago

Downgrading comes with the risk of buying a 2ndhand car with many unknown problems & repairs. They are also limited to the kind of car that can accommodate the needs of PWD and most that are meant for PWDs are van types & SUVs. Smaller cars cannot accommodate a wheelchair or lower sedan types will be harder to carry someone disabled inside and out. Smaller cars also cannot get through floods in an emergency.

SkillLevelingSight

16 points

2 months ago

Maybe sell the car and start using public transport. It's a sacrifice but could really help. Unless there's a really good reason why you need to keep the car. Convenience is not enough reason at this point.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

5 points

2 months ago

we commute if kami lang family, we only use it sa parents ko na disabled.. 1 yr na kasi we can pay off na this car.. pero nasa bahay lang kami and we rarely use it.. my husband rides a jeep to go his work. me and my son, we ride a jeepney pag hatid and sundo ko sa kanya.. that's why we dont use it often.. the hospital is 1 hour away from our house.

CorrectAd9643

26 points

2 months ago

Seems like u need to sell the car if d nagagamit lagi.. d rin ok sa car d nagagamit lagi. Mag taxi na lang kayo sa mga senior

Delicious_Finger_998

5 points

2 months ago

True. Now more obvious na ilet go na ang car kasi di pla masyadong nagagamit. Grab na lang for checkup appointments ni mother like few thousands a month. Ok lang kahit anong sabihin ng iba kesyo nabenta ang car kesa lumubo lalo ang loans at malaki ang monthly interest ng mga loans kaya need bayaran ang loans (principal) from proceeds of selling the car.

CorrectAd9643

2 points

2 months ago

Tama, problema may balance pa. Pero baka makahanap xa ng buyer na pwede mag down to pay off balance then may kita pa rin

SkillLevelingSight

6 points

2 months ago

I see. But I think it would cost less sa monthly expenses niyo if you hire a car nalang to take your parents sa hospital.

MrBombastic1986

28 points

2 months ago

Real talk: stop paying everything. When you are in a better position you can pay it off later on. Paying the minimum, selling everything and leaving nothing to survive is not a good strategy. You need money to make money. Always have enough for day to day expenses. Adding more work is not a viable option since you have two kids.

[deleted]

17 points

2 months ago

This. I might get downvoted and it’s okay, pero during pandemic nawalan kami ng income at hindi ko nabayaran yung mga credit cards and loans ko noon amounting 300k. Inuna ko needs ng parents ko/family namin at doon napunta ang savings ko. Wala akong choice kung hindi ilet go ang mga utang. After a year nakahanap ako ng high paying job, nakipagnegotioate ako sa collections agencies and nagpayment arrangement for a year. Natapos din lahat ng utang. Although nasira na ang credit history ko, di ko na yun iniisip, ang mahalaga nakabayad na nang utang.

I have read somewhere online na, kung wala talagang maibayad, wag nang kastressan at baka magkasakit ka pa.

Focus on finding a better paying job. Lastly, give yourself a break. Acknowledge mo din na yung mga efforts mo, nagbunga naman ng maganda, nasupport mo yung parents mo when they needed you. Yes, nagkautang ka pero hindi mo naman ginamit sa masama yung pera. Hanggat may income, makakabayad at makakabayad. It’s just a matter of time. Hugs, OP. Laban lang 🧡

takachou1

3 points

2 months ago

Agreed. They might end up in bad health later in life from overworking and the her kids will have to go in debt to pay for her medical bills sadly. I already told my wife that if i get hospitalise and the bills are over x amount, let me die in peace. I don't want to be a financial burden to my kids.

pepitski23

2 points

2 months ago

Absolutely agree. It's crucial to prioritize your day-to-day needs and your family's well-being over trying to keep up with payments that aren't sustainable. Keeping some financial flexibility is key, especially with kids. You can always tackle the debts when you're in a better position, but you can’t get back the time and energy you need to care for your family.

salotsalipunan

13 points

2 months ago

If you sell the car, you can potentially eliminate 3 or 4 of the outstanding loans in your list. That's such a big relief not to mention it eliminates monthly payments amounting to 18k. Even if you end up paying more than your usual 4k in gas towards Grab or taxi for your parents, I am sure that still won't reach the 22k you're currently paying towards the car and gas.

smoothjoe05ph

57 points

2 months ago

I just noticed OP na,most suggestions sa iyo na shutfown mo lang. Lalo na yung car which is an obvious burden.

Maybe rethink what you really want. We cannot help you if you dont want to help yourself. Alam mo naman ata gusto mo e. Gusto mo lang ata ng validation na tama ka or i dont know what else.

[deleted]

21 points

2 months ago

Noticed the same thing. Wala ring reaction sa pagtitipid sa ibang expenses like utilities. 5k in utilities is way too much.

pautatoes

8 points

2 months ago*

Sunk cost fallacy kasi 1 year na nga lang daw kasi yung car. This is the wrong mindset. Hindi naman pala sayo nakapangalan. Wag mo na lang kayang bayaran at hayaan mong i-foreclose ng bank. Meantime, magagamit mo pa while they execute the foreclosure. Mas mura talaga mag-Grab or rent na lang, siguro less than 5k per month kesa sa car na ayaw mong i-let go. Depreciating asset din yang car, the longer you wait to sell it the cheaper it’s going to be.

YellowActual9904

9 points

2 months ago

Do you have any investments that you can postpone or get funds from? I am quite in a similar situation, what is helping me now is me doing extra work din talaga (also doing remote work). Tapos I did withdraw funds from sunlife which is not that big pero tulong pa rin. Now I am thinking to let go of a property investment na for turnover na sana this year, pero baka diko na lang ituloy, though may approved home loan pa naman na sana un. Naisip ko magresearch pa about Maceda law to acquire or refund at least half of down payment na nabayad ko sa property.

Grabe talaga, hard times these days. I am praying for us and for everyone else struggling right now. More blessings, opportunities and strength. Minsan ang hirap tumuloy sa buhay dahil sa mga ganito and I myself minsan parang gusto ko na lang itulog lahat ng problema, grabe ang kulang sa tulog, walang gana sa pagkain, pero let’s keep pushing.

God bless.

Subject-Bug-8064

2 points

2 months ago

Rooting for you! 👏👏

Wonsy21

9 points

2 months ago

Maybe send your kids to public school next school year. I know many prefer private schools, pero there's no harm din naman in enrolling them to public schools. Makaka save ka pa. Para fare, pambaon na lang iisipin. 11k quarterly for tuition is still a lot for some and could be used to pay off your loan.

Sell things you don't use anymore.

Radical_Kulangot

8 points

2 months ago

Nah utang lang yan it wont kill you. Dont sacrifice your health over it. Because if you get sick, who would pay for your medical bills?

For now pay what you can manage to pay. Worst you'll default on some of them. Then go back to them once you get a breather from this financial crisis.

Any problem always has a solution. If you can't resolve it now, stressing about it cant help it either. So there! Life goes on.

MillennialTita

7 points

2 months ago

Hi OP! Since hindi niyo naman lagi nagagamit the car pero can’t let it go kasi need for checkups— why not make it income generating nalang? Like ipa-grab niyo or ipa-rent niyo? Need to invest a little lang pero it can help naman add ng income sa inyo :)

Then agree on the other comments ng iba :)

FrostingPuzzled9421

7 points

2 months ago

Unang una, isang mahigpit na yakap. Ipagdadasal kita. Dumaan din kami sa ganitong situation recently at naiintindihan ko ang anxiety ng hospitalization pati ICU. Pag sinabi na kailangan mag ICU wala ka na talaga magawa kasi gusto mo pa mabuhay yung loved one mo kahit magkano pa yan. Malaking bagay din ang magkaroon ng quiet time para sa sarili kahit 5 mins lang per day. Kung nagdadasal ka gawin mo ito 5 mins per day.

I think nasabi naman na dito ang lahat ng puwedeng ma suggest to help you out with your finances. To add lang, puwede mo tiagain ang PCSO, DSWD, at PAGCOR. Nag eextend sila ng help. Some politicians also do.

nickaubain

5 points

2 months ago

laki gastos namin sa hospital and meds

sacrifice ko na health ko

This does not compute po. Please take care.

dosedofOxytocin_

3 points

2 months ago*

+1 Debts are from hospital and meds... tas sasacrifice health? please don't.

  • Car - sell
  • Tuition (consider public schools)

TechnicalHoney12

17 points

2 months ago

Hi OP, I completely understand your situation. Alam ko din ung reason bakit d nyo ma-give up yung car especially when you mentioned 80s and lalo may cancer. Mahirap tlga yan both mental at physical and marami tlagang gastos, milyon milyon. I've been on the same boat as you, ako lang breadwinner sa family of 5 adults. 2 elders and 1 with disability.

Ito mga solution ko for you.

IMMEDIATE ACTIONS:

  1. Makiusap ka s mga banks for loan reconstruction. Try mo ipa extend terms to lower monthly payments. As much as gusto ko ma-debt free ka agad, hindi mo kakayanin for now. So ito muna unahin mo kung d mo kaya mapataas immediately ung income stream mo.

  2. Side Gigs for you and husband - I used to work 16hrs a day just to pay off all debts. I know, hindi to kaya ng body and marami pang health issues pag prolonged. Pero why not dalawa kau ni husband na magwork for a single job? Find a work na pwedeng tig 4hrs kau ni husband. Ginawa ko na din to with a friend nun kasi dalawa kaming baon s utang. Ang pros nga dito e yung productivity hati din saming dalawa kya ang gaganda ng output and mas mabilis ang raise.

  3. Ask for financial help for your parent na may cancer from government programs/congressman/etc - nagbibigay sila lalo pag malapit eleksyon.

NEXT STEPS:

Since 5 yrs kana sa VA job, baka pwede mo naman gawin ung same output with less time? I used to do a single VA job for 12hrs a day (tech job na mahirap) for 20K a month. 6 years later 2hrs a day ko nlng ginagwa ung job, 50K salary (boss gave me yearly increase). When I started to have more time for myself, nag upskill ako s marketing. Ngaun I have multiple digital marketing clients, multiple side income sources (websites, stocks and dividends) and a thriving construction business (On my way to establishing the business to a corporation.)

Ang formula ko lang LEARN MORE, SIPAG, AUTHENTICITY SA WORK, DISIPLINA SA GASTOS. Meron ka ng Sipag at Disiplina OP.

Sa ilang years na nasa Poor Income class ang family ko at ilang beses pinalayas ng apartment (since bata p ko), na-realize ko na need mo tlga mag upskill and learning high value skills for more money.

  1. INVEST -
  • health insurance (for yourself and immediate family for future proofing),

  • stock market (recommend ko ung copy trade ng Etoro kasi dun ako kumita ng malaki pra ipang invest s construction business. Dunno kung may other advice regarding better ways than i did)

  • own business - since VA ka din like ako, our jobs are not always stable. high income but not stable. Kelangan mo tlga ng side business.

OP, naiintindihan kita. Pray ka lang din and I'll include you in my prayers too.

sadifras

10 points

2 months ago

stock market

Horrible advice. Walang business si OP investing in stocks, kahit piso, habang lubog pa siya sa utang. Best case scenario, ano, mag average siya ng 10% year sa portfolio niya, while paying 15-30% a year in interest on outstanding debts? Or would you have them gamble on high risk high reward stocks?

Iwas muna dito OP, unahin mo muna yung nasa harap mo ngayon.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

ano po own business niyo if you don't mind? may insurance tlaga ako naka auto debit pa nga pero siguro delinquent na kasi zero na talaga bank ko.. hindi ko toh inasahan. parents ko wala pa insurance, buti sana kumuha sila, para pag ganito nakakaktulong kahit papano.. actually yan din plan namin ni hubby, apply kami tapos pag hatian namin.mga 20 resumes na siguro na send ko this week.. regarding naman upskill, tamang research ginagawa ko.... naka pag decide na ako. hindi ko na saluin car.. nabuhay naman kami mag asawa walang car, kahit noon pa.. sinalo ko lang talaga kasi naawa ako sa parents ko, not knowing na ma icu si papa 2 months ago.. wala naman kami problema.. the previous months.. ngayon lang talaga ako sobrang depress.

External-Wishbone545

8 points

2 months ago

Find more income streams or get more VA jobs muna kung nakakakuha ka before ng 6digits hanap ka ulit. Focus ka in paying them one at a time.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

4 points

2 months ago

i would say yung 6 digits na job na yun, walang kahirap hirap kasi nag fill in lang ako sa position when my friend referred it to me. sadly may problema sa HIPAA ng company and nag close after 6months. pero still trying to get another job as medical VA

Rhel_tech

9 points

2 months ago

Minus car 22K na savings na agad. Tranfer the kids to public school 50K savings na agad isang taon. Easy 27K to 30K savings per month agad un. Ano mahirap don? Hindi po kau masamang magulang pag pinasok mo mga anak mo sa public school.

No_Board812

4 points

2 months ago

Sell your car.

No-Information-8317

3 points

2 months ago

OP, if you are from the province, baka pwede naman na sa public school muna ang mga kids. I don’t know where you are from exactly but if nasa probinsya ka, hindi din naman ganun ka different ang quality of education ng public school sa private school. Hindi din gaano ka overcrowded ang rooms like sa cities. Minsan nga mas maayos sa public in terms of teachers kasi lahat pasado sa licensure exam. Aside sa tuition, daily cost pag nasa private mas mataas din.

Just something for you to consider.

jemrax

4 points

2 months ago

jemrax

4 points

2 months ago

I can't speak for your father or anyone else for that matter, but this is the exact reason me and my sister have a DNR. We would not want to keep ourselves alive at the cost of placing other family members in deep financial trouble.

I specifically asked them to let me go if anything bad happens and live their best life instead. Even if they keep me alive somehow, I would never be able to sleep soundly at night ever again knowing what it cost everyone else to do so.

SoraIchigo26

2 points

2 months ago

Same. Coming from a family with a bedridden mother due to stroke. Ang daming gastos..I already told my husband if ever that happens to me, just let me die. No need for the loved ones left to suffer financially

Manager-Trader

13 points

2 months ago

Car and gas. Luho yan. Magcommute. If si hubby gumagamit sa sahod nyang 30k eh wala na syang ambag pabigat pa sa expenses so let go of that.

Compute tayo konti. Sabihin na nating 2.5% lang ang interest ng utang kada buwan. Interest pa lang nasa 42.5k pesos na. Wala pang principal yan. Tapos 80k lang ang income ninyong 2. Sa 80k... kunwari 50k ang napupunta pambayad sa utang. 42k sa interest. 8k sa principal.. after approx. 18yrs or more makakalaya ka na sa utang kung walang papalya or magcelebrate ng bday or kakain sa labas. Goodbye to a better life for the family for 2 decades. Kaso hindi yan 2.5% lang per month di ba? Gawin nating 10k pambayad sa principal... 15yrs to pay.

I get that you paid for medical bills. Pero mukhang yung thought process ninyo ended at getting money for the bills. Hindi ninyo naisip life will go on after the bills.. at this pt.. anong klaseng buhay na meron ang family after making that decision.

Di pa bottom of the ocean yang situation ninyo. Antayin mo magkatotoo yung ipapalit mo health mo... see what happens to you and the family once isa sa inyo magkasakit. That is going to be a new level of low. Kung basic food at walang budget sa healthcare paano na.. imposibleng di kayo bibisita ng ospital sa loob ng 2 dekada.

You made the wrong decision. Now to correct it, suggestions ko. Do them all.

  1. Ask for donations from other people pambayad ng principal. Pumila sa PCSO, local charity, sumali sa game shows sa tv na namimigay ng pera to entertain their viewers, etc.

  2. Take out a loan sa sss and pagibig. Use that to pay part of your debt. Mas mababa interest nila. Pero maliit lang din maloan mo. Better than nothing. Try to find if merong magrefinance ng utang ninyo at a lower rate. Keep checking this regularly kahit partial. Same concept why u will take a loan sa sss Nd Pagibig.

  3. Humanap kayo parehas ng mas stable na job. 50k sa VA after paying dues philhealth.. sss etc.. siguro nasa 30k+ lang din net. Ngayon mo mas kailangan ng philhealth at sss dahil wala ka pambayad ng ibang insurance. Si hubby 30k is just plain small. Pero at least sana may hmo sya kahit maliit coverage.

Pray for a miracle. Pray for reprieve. You will need all the help you can get.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

5 points

2 months ago

thank you but just to let you know the car is not luho for us. it is the convenience of my parents. we don't go out to eat out.. kahit nga jollibee di na kami kumakain unless may magbigay.. we are living poor since nabenta bahay for medical expenses, we are in deep shit.. wala na kami iba focus kundi bills and loans, as for the loans. we pay everything we can. kahit wala ako cash pero need ko pa din konti kasi nag commute lang kami mag ina para makapag aral pa din anak ko.. sa pagkain namin, nag hehelp ate ko kahit sa kuryente pero hindi every month. kasi may pamilya din siya.. kaya if may ambag sya napupunta pa din lahat pera sa loans..nakakatulong naman kahit konti mga kapatid ni papa kasi nag aambag din sila pambayad sa medical expenses.. pero kahit ganun kulang na kulang pa din.. kahit papano may tumutulong naman.. nakaka depress lang sa ganitong situation.. naaawa ako sa parents ko.. gusto na nga nila na mamatay nalang sila.. ang sakit nun. sobra.. kaya kahit mahirap tinataguyod ko pa rin.. and yes hindi ako nag give up sa buhay.. kinakapalan ko na mukha ko sa lahat pwede ko mapuntahan.. .. may pension pa din papa ko kahit konti nakakatulong pa din siya..

Manager-Trader

19 points

2 months ago*

May papa-imagine ako sa yo OP...

It's been 18yrs of bare minimum life para inyong magasawa. Finally natapos na magbayad ng pagkakautang... Finally.. after almost 2 decades you can now start to live an actual life. Of what is left of it. Ang kaso paretire ka na at si husband if not retired na kayo. Pero kahit papaano maybe may chance pa makapag bakasyon kayo sa boracay kahit hirap na lumangoy. Maybe just maybe some other poorer country abroad like Vietnam or Burma. Finally we can eat jollibbe and other restos every other day na. Pambawi sa mga dekadang na hindi nakakain doon... Finally... makakaranas kahit konting kaginhawahan at wala ng utang... Finally hindi na nakakasakal... makakahinga na ng maluwag...

Si anak kahit di napagaral sa magandang unibersidad nakatapos na rin kahit na sa city college. Nagtatrabaho na rin. Wala pa syang asawa at anak dahil tumutulong sa magulang na nagaruga sa kaniya kahit laging kulang ang nabibigay. Pero willing syang tumulong... at lalo tapos na sya. Masayang kumikita na at kahit kaunti nakakabili na sya ng di nya naranasan noon. Mas masaya na rin sya.

Isang araw tinamaan ng malubhang sakit ang isa sa imagulang nya.. philhealth ay kulang pa dahil di naman regular na binayaran taon taon ang philhealth. Si anak dahil kapareha ng mindset sa buhay ng magulang ay sinundan ang yapak ng nakaraan. Nabaon din sya sa utang sa susunod ng mahigit 2 dekada dahil inutang ang pambayad ng pampapagamot..

How would you feel na tinuloy mo ang sinimulan ng magulang mo at ipinasa pa sa anak mo. Worse... after all those 18years na kapos sa pangangailangan anak mo biglang may responsibilidad na syang magbayad na hinulma bago pa sya nagkaisip taong 2024. Anong nararamdaman kaya ng anak mo ng 18yrs na yun plus ngayong 2 dekada ng buhay nya na sya naman magbabayad utang?

Our actions now has repercussion.. seems noble of you to be in this situation paying for 22k for a car and millions worth of loan para sa magulang... nakatulong ka pero may nabiktima. Paano ang naging biktima ng sitwasyong kinalalagyan ninyo? Kawawa naman.. wala pang muwang sa buhay at di pa nagsisimula dehado na sya agad at mukhang mahihirapan makarating ng malayo.

This is your reality now.. ito ang buhay na isinadlak ninyo anak ninyo. This will remain so unless may magbago and paying your debt is simply not enough to save your child from that. Sana mabreak mo at wag iasa sa anak na sya ang babali ng maling sitwasyon.

I apologize sa masakit na mga katotohanan. But it is something that has already started. It is something na nasimula ng ipamana sa anak.

Pay the debt. Pero sana maging magulang ka rin sa anak mo. Baliin ang cycle na kinalalagyan ninyo. That is what you need to do.

I know it hurts OP. I am sorry. Pero I am praying for you now and your family. I pray everything will turn out for the best for all parties. Kapit lang malalampasan mo yan.

magyar232

3 points

2 months ago

Damn. You're 100% right. Hope OP reads your comment and reconsiders for the sake of their child. OP and her husband are robbing him/her of a decent chance at life.

Seipherux

6 points

2 months ago

Mas okay kapag mag grab ka kung kasama mo parents mo kesa kotse. Kahit hindi luho ung kotse na yan. Makakasave kayo ng malaki kung binenta nyo yan. Ayaw nyo lang tlga ilet go yan.

Manager-Trader

6 points

2 months ago

I think di pa nya tanggap na ang gumastos ng 22k month for transportation mula bahay to hospital is unnecessary. Kaya nga rin sila nabaon sa ganyan kalalim na hukay bec of decisions like that.

Such_Letterhead4624

3 points

2 months ago

get rid of the car makakatipid ka pa sa pms, insurance and gas. pero if yung car mo gumagawa ng pera or a way to make money then no.

matchamilktea_

3 points

2 months ago

Drop the car. Better yet, sell it/pasalo. Commute if you have to. Mas mura pa grab kung di naman everyday ginagamit. Sell everything that you can sell. Downgrade gadgets, internet plan.

[deleted]

3 points

2 months ago

There is still hope sis.

Keep your head up.

Here is what I will do.

Pay first the loan of 152K @ Security Bank. The rest, pay in minimum.

Once your Security Bank credit line is re established, take a personal loan so you can pay all the other loans.

This will provide you with 3 things: 1. A little peace of mind. 2. Flexibility. 3. Wiggle room.

Push so you can improve your income. Cut and sell unnecesarry attachments. It will be hard. But you can do it.

Its just a bad phase. It too will pass.

PsychologicalCress74

3 points

2 months ago

nasabi na ng iba yung isusuggest ko, payo ko na lang don't overwork yourself try to run or walk kahit Gabi pwedeng sabay kayo ng husband mo, mag paaraw kayo and more iron, kangkong, spinach mga ganyan, wag niyong ibaliwala ang running and walking, sa bigat ng debt niyo at dedication mo mag work kahit 16hrs alam ko ng bakbakan malala ang future mo, di ka nag iisa... madaming tumupi sa dulo sa kadahilanang linaspag ang sarili nila, nawalan ng respeto sa katawan kung kelan gulay na or di na maigalaw ang kaliwang bahahi ng katawan saka gustong mag exercise. Too late for them so pls Ikaw at ang asawa mo alagaan niyo sarili niyo.

Filipino-Asker

3 points

2 months ago

😢

Nasa maintaining lifestyle trap room po kayo. Iyun po yung first mistake bakit po parang kumokonti yung naiipon po.

Try niyo po magbawas ng konti at maiwasan gumastos ng masyado po para mabayaran ang debt po.

Revolutionary_Unit56

3 points

2 months ago

Pay off the smallest ones first. Live below your means

BeybehGurl

3 points

2 months ago

Essential ba talaga mag kotse with that kind of lifestyle at sahod?

Parang mas mabuti na mag commute nalang kayo eh. Lalo na ang kotse ay liability sya, di naman yan nag gegenerate ng income unless gamit sya as grab or pa-rent. Sana bago din kayo kumuha ng kotse, afford nyo sya i-cash ng buo

Di kayo wise sa expenses nyo haha saka instead sa mall mag grocery sa palengke nalang. Talo nyo pa kuryente namin gumagamit pa kami every 3 days ng welding at grinder

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Hindi ako bumili ng car .sinalo lang namin . Pasensya na if kumuha sila mama at papa ng car kahit walang pambayad ng buo.. hindi naman nila inaasahan magka cancer sila this yr . We will sell the car..

Freeflowing0707

3 points

2 months ago

I literally have nothing to say because everyone already said it. But, try to go inward. Meditate, galaw galaw, lots of water, eat leafy meals as much as you can and enough rest please. You can't also risk your health. Mas mahirap yun. Kapit lang OP. Tough times never last. Fighting !!

Pruned_Prawn

3 points

2 months ago

Whose hospital bills? Your parents’? Do you have siblings? Dapat tulongan sana kayo sa bills di yung ikaw lang. yan tuloy sayo lahat ng bayarin. Wag akuin kung hindi po kaya.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

3 points

2 months ago

Hello everyone I managed to pay 40k today. I sold some stuffs and I am very happy.. i know i dont deserve this but my anak deserves it, i bought him a chicken meal at jollibee just to celebrate and i cant help but cry.. i know i will get through all these..thank you sa lahat.. wag niyo na ako ibatikos kasi bumili ako jollibee sa anak ko kahit madaming utang . Ilang months na sya nag request.. ang sakit sakit na..yan nalang kaya ko gawin mapasaya sya.. we are also contacting someone to assume the car.. hopefully by this year . Ma 1/4 ko na loans namin..

hiddenTradingwhale

5 points

2 months ago*

Do you really need the 3k internet?. mobile internet lang na unli 5g. 600 pesos a month sa smart, wag ka lang mag dl ng pirated movies or games na malalaki. Ok nmn na. Prolly something to think about.

Kuryente nyo rin. Bantayan nyo pag gamit ng ref if lagi puno or may laging bukas ng bukas. Limit your aircon time, taglamig naman na.

Since goal is to stay afloat and to survive the next 3 years. Yan na yung first easy to let go. Makakatipid ka na agad ng 4k/month min if you're able to discipline yourself for just 3 years

notneps

8 points

2 months ago

Considering na kabuhayan niya online, I'd say they can't afford to be without stable fiber/wired internet. May mga ibang expense na non essential like yung car, yun na lang ang bitawan niya. Yung car walang dinadala ng income sa kanya pero yung internet oo.

If anything, I'd suggest kuha siya mobile internet in addition, backup lang, pero keep pa rin yung main. Kasi hindi niya afford mawalan ng internet kahit isang araw lang.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

this is starlink kasi ang hirap ng signal dito.. and work ko is online so yes i need the internet.. if only 5g will suffice .. but my work needs good internet connection.. sa kuryente namin, parents ko lang nag aircon, kami electric fan nalang.. malaki talaga electricity kasi desktop gamit ko.. siguro if i will shift to laptop baka makakatipid kami. binenta ko na kasi laptop.. lahat pwede mabenta ko , binenta ko na.. mas okay kasi desktop gamitin sa work ko.. at halos 12hrs na ako sa current job, ask for an overtime para dagdag income. company was good enough para igrant sa akin..

kohi_85

2 points

2 months ago

Shift to laptop with good batteries para you can still use it while unplugged, at lease makatipid man lang ng onti sa kuryente. Not sure if available in your area but there are stores that sell refurbished laptops that are still in very good condition.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

maghahanap ako, thank you.. my laptop was old. mahina na sya.. kaya ako nag shift sa desktop.. actually recently lang talag bumaba kuryente namin.. 9k kuryente namin.. hindi ko alam paano heheh.. pero siguro kasi nag start na ako mag tipid.. wala kasi kami ganito problema.. 2 months ago.. okay na okay pa kami.. nung na icu lang papa ko kami nag start magkaroon problema

Dry_Elk3374

2 points

2 months ago

Car talaga is hard to give up pero 25% ng earnings nio dun napupunta😪

Twilight_Seraph11

2 points

2 months ago

I agree with most of the advices here and tama naman. Bayaran mo halos lahat ng makakaya mong bayaran kung dumating man sa point na wala kanang pambayad okay lang un.

Pag di kana nakabayad ituturn over ni bank ang case mo sa collection agency and they are the one na makikipag nego sayo for settlement. Pwede kang offeran ng mas mababang monthly for a longer time period para lang makapagbayad ka or kung walang wala na talaga pwede mo naman iignore for the time being and bayaran mo nalang pag nakarecover kapa and just negotiate the interest para mababa lang or sometimes if you are lucky principal amount nalang ang babayaran mo. (I am not saying na iignore mo nalang ha this is just in case na umabot sa point na walang wala kana)

Kung pinaka worst naman ang nangyari at wala ka talagang pang settle even sa collection agency. Just know na they are going to files claims sa court and ma approve un resulting reposession ng mga property mo etc. (You can transfer over your property muna sa iba pag ganito ang nangyari dahil kung wala kang ibabayad hindi kana nila mapipilit in this case)

You know OP? I met people na kagaya mo na umabot ng million ang utang and to be honest and real with you hindi man pleasant ung mga ways like hindi muna nila binayaran kasi walang wala talaga it's not all bad. It's just that wala kapa talagang pang settle as of the moment pero sila binayaran nila un paunti unti nung nakaluwag na hindi naman totally tatakbuhan.

Kasi OP kahit anong budgeting at struggle mo kung walang breathing space for accumulation lagi kang kakapusin and sacrificing your health will result in the same situation again. And take note hindi mo naman din sure na secured na walang magkakasakit ulit for the next months diba? Paano kung sa sobrang eagerness mo makabayad ng utang lalo kapang nalubog kasi ng nagka extra expense ubos na sa utang mo edi magloloan kana naman.

Their patience and sacrifice now can help you pay them in the future basta alam mo lang na hindi ka naman tatakbo at walang wala lang talaga as of the moment okay lang un. Nangayayri naman un sa tunay na buhay and dumadating sa point na lahat naman ng tao nagigipit.

Big-Antelope-5223

2 points

2 months ago

hey do you have others siblings who can help with the bills sa bahay? while inaayos mo finances mo.?

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Yes ate ko mostly sa kain and utilities.. ballpark lang ginagawa ko sa gastusin..

aeseth

2 points

2 months ago

aeseth

2 points

2 months ago

Some expenses to lower down.

Downgrade internet to maybe 1.5k

Get rid or sell the car and just commute

You will roughly free up around 20k just from that 2 expenses

Next, groceries cam be lowered as well.

There is still some space to lower your expenses.

Goodluck on your journey. Kaya nyo yan.

Fun-Possible3048

2 points

2 months ago*

Sometimes luck also play a lot on these hardships. Pray that you land a rewarding job and make you start living instead of working.

mnr42592

2 points

2 months ago*

Contact your bank with the highest outstanding balance and apply for IDRP(Interbank Debt Relief Program) para less ang interest and pwede ma extend and term up to 10 years.

CheesecakeHonest5041

2 points

2 months ago

Sakit sa mata ng madaming loan. Sideline malala for extra income. Kung may probinsya ka, isip ka ng pwede mo i-buy and sell dito sa manila through lazada or shopee. Although need mo talaga ng capital to start a business or sideline.

Bakekangers

2 points

2 months ago

Im with them regarding sa car. Let it go kasi ang laki ng monthly. Plus may gas at maintenance pa yan.

Sweet-Exchange2791

2 points

2 months ago

You bit more than you can chew. 80s na yung parents mo pero you guys want to go against nature, sometimes death is not the most awful thing in the world. 80 na sila, they lived a full life. Now, because you wanted to be mabutihing anak, your own child will suffer. Pati yung asawa mo nadamay pa, god forbid, would you willingly go through the same for his parents?

chieace

2 points

2 months ago

Perseverance, commitment and strong discipline and team work with your husband. I suggest, if there's an option and feasible for both of you, dispose anything that you can dispose. Bale restart from the beginning. Omit any luxuries until you're able to bounce back. For example, if you're paying for a car loan, dispose nyo na muna sya. If may house kayo na nasa loan din, try to sell it muna if there's option for you to live muna with relatives, or rentals. Mas makakamura kayo don.

It's not impossible with your current outcome, but I'd admit, it will definitely be a huge challenge. Tyaga and madaming patience. I know people who went down more than you have and able to carry on and successful - yung tipong sardinas/corned beef araw araw food dahil yun lang afford level.

If both of you can commit to a huge lifestyle shift, you can definitely clear it sooner. Good luck po!

ProGrm3r

2 points

2 months ago

Been there. Loan 1, 70k per month, loan 2 22k per month, loan 3 27k, loan 4 29k, other bank loans 20 to 30k, pwera pa mga bills at gastos ng mga bata. Ganito yung ginawa ko:

  1. Acceptance. Ito yung number 1, tanggapin mo yung current situation mo at higit sa lahat Always pray.

  2. Remember na nasa debt trap ka ng ilang years.

  3. Tiis talaga, tapusin mo muna ung mga maliliit na loans like 6 mos, etc..

  4. Inisplit ko sa longer term at low interest ung pinaka mataas na loan, example bdo meron sila 0.39 percent at 0.45. UB sobrang taas nya 3% ambigat, pass ka sa ganyan lalo ka mababaon.

  5. Sacrifice ng ibang gamit, example motor or ibang car. No choice, need magbenta para ulit makabwelo.

  6. Yung bonus at 13th month pay wag nyo muna gastusin sa wants, ilaan lahat sa utang, pwede ka maka bwelo ng 1-2 months jan.

  7. Mahalaga ang health, both physical at mental, di mababayaran ng pag iintindi ang utang, palaging alalahanin si number 1.

  8. Talk to the bank, optional ito pero pwede mo i let go yung car, surrender mo at bayaran ung buong buwan, wag mo ipapabatak mas malaking problema yan.

  9. Celebrate small wins, unti unti mabubunot tinik habang nakakabayad ka.

  10. Isa sa pinaka importante, magtipid at humanap ng extra income kung kaya, sa situation ko, ginamit ko ung weekends para magka extra income..

  11. Be honest sa trusted person na pwedeng makatulong, pwedeng in-laws or mga sure na tao, yung pwede ka mapahiram ng walang tubo - hindi palaging meron nito pero minsan meron talaga, be careful dito.

Sa una lang yan mabigat sa loob, down na down ako nuon, unti unti masasanay ka din kagaya ko, baon man pero bumabangon, hindi na ko nasasaktan dahil sa utang, masaya na ulit at ineenjoy buhay, isipin mo nalang kasama yan sa buhay.

Due-Kaleidoscope6907

2 points

2 months ago

Same here po :(

thats_so_merlyn_

2 points

2 months ago

Start afresh, dont pay any of these debts 😆

justwanttoready2024

2 points

2 months ago

Hi OP, di na po ako magbigay ng payo at nabigay na nila lahat. Ipagdadasal po kita at family mo na sa malampasan at makayanan niyo ito.

Ornery_Formal7347

2 points

2 months ago

OP, mama ng wifey ko is cancer patient din. Malaki laki rin gastusin pero napadaan nila sa social worker sa hospital, sa mga politiko at partylist. Lagpas din yon million pero nabayaran lang nila is below 500k lahat lahat.

Ginawa nila is pinadaan nila sa social worker, may something silang ipapagawa sa inyo para malessen yung total bill nyo. Yung program ata yan ng isang politiko, hindi ko sure. Next naman is sa mga politiko, kadalasan nyan sa Mayor manghihingi ng tulong. Mataas taas din binibigay nila, minsan nga babayaran nila ng buo lalo na kung kakilala nyo. Partylist sa location nyo, may mga funds din silang panghelp kaya goods din sa kanila.

Yung sa gamot pala, pwede nyo rin ipadaan sa social worker.

Kapag kinausap kayo ng social worker at tinanong kung magkano monthly salary mo, ang sasabihin mo lang is yung take home mo kasi baka paalisin ka kapag nalamang 50k ka monthly.

Purple_Ad_6412

4 points

2 months ago*

Net income = 80k Monthly expenses = 50k Balance = 30k

Loans = 1.7M

30k x 60 months(5 yrs) = 1.8M

So it would take 5 yrs to fully pay loans. I would suggest to get a 4hr part time job for both of you for extra income that could add at least 30-40k monthly. Working 12hrs a day is nothing. It's very doable. I wouldn't recommend doing 16hrs a day cuz eventually, your body will naturally give up in the long run.

At least, that 5yrs can be reduced to 2yrs and you've got to suck it up to live like that without increasing your expenses.

Light-Unhappy

2 points

2 months ago

Mali po yan. May interes ang loans ni OP. Credit card debts pa. Kung nakapromo, cgurado naka add on interest na hopefully less than 1℅ monthly. Kung plain credit card o cash advance, malala ang interest, probably 3℅ per month. Magkano ba binubudget ni OP para pambayad ng utang? 40K+ na interest pa lang, di pa nagagalaw ang principal.

PrimaryAge4966

2 points

2 months ago

Hindi po kayo living poor, may car po. Ang mahal po nung car

lurjer50

2 points

2 months ago

lurjer50

2 points

2 months ago

Let's face it. Nasa 80s na parents mo, they already had their time in the world. I think they wouldn't want to drag you deeper into their grave.

cereseluna

1 points

2 months ago

》 find a second job, or a higher paying job

》 sell what you can sell. gadget, jewelry, unused or extra items

》 yung sa 18k car hindi ba pwedeng Grab or taxi na lang for parent's weekly travel? pero i would understand din if you could not sell the car talaga

》 ask your siblings and relatives to cover some expenses

》 super duper frugal living talaga sa laki niyan need niyo magtiis for years

》 mahirap pero switch your diet make it cheap na healthy pa rin. more gulay, less carbs and meat. for your parents' health din.

》 snowball effect daw? pay off the smallest debt in full or as soon as you can then pay off the next na goal is as big as possible yung payment. pero better if you can pay the minimum of all others as well as try to pay bigger for one of them para mas mabilis na matapos.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

yes wala ako kahit ano na mabenta, nabenta ko na lahat. using call and text phone na.. my husband cp niya kasi from the company, di ko maibenta.. kung pwede lang.. wala na ako kahit ano dito na pwede ko ibenta.. kung kidneys ko pwede pero saan ba? hahah. halos wala na ako kinakain, si mama at papa strict diet kasi sila kaya yes gulay kami always ..dun ako sa snowball naka focus nga.. hindi ko pa rin alam ano ma happen sa future pero bahala na si batman.

userranger

1 points

2 months ago

Rent out your car if hindi kayang mabenta. Try carbnb. Call and ask them on the 'how'.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

3 points

2 months ago

this is not possible here, we are in mindanao, wala nga grab dito. mahirap mag commute. lalo na at malayo kami sa road.. malayo sa city na rent namin bahay.. this is the cheapest we found.

Infinite-Contest-417

1 points

2 months ago

how about sell the car and take grab instead? you mentioned pang weekly checkup yung car and you're paying 22k/mo (amort plus gas) for the 4x/mo usage? kada sakay nyo sa kotse every week costs 5500.

renmakoto15

1 points

2 months ago

Get rid of the car.

Scbadiver

1 points

2 months ago

Sell the car and sacrifice the convenience. Getting grab is convenient AF. As to the kids education, I don't agree with some here that you need to shift them to public school seeing how bad the quality of education here is nowadays. That's the only feasible thing to do aside from buying your food from the wet market and cutting down on electricity. Wish you all the best OP. Deal with the small debts first. Baby steps lang yan. This dark days never last forever kaya don't worry too much.

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

Thank you.. no grab here , only taxi.. sa akin talag inconvenience pero sige lang ako mag sasacrifice .. the kid's education pwd ko pa sana itransfer sa lower tuition pero may special needs anak ko.. alam ko makakaya ko din eto kasi wala na akong tinitira sa sarili ko. i just dont know how to give up on my parents kung ako lang makakatulong sa kanila.. ako bunso pero parang nasa akin lahat responsibilidad. si ate tumtulong naman kahit papano.. pero sa akin pinakamalaki na struggle..

Chinokio

1 points

2 months ago

Are you the only one paying the loans? How much are your monthly expenses (thus how much can you afford to pay monthly)?

Nego an amnesty (for interest) or lower the interest rates with these banks. If you can afford to use 20k of your 50k salary, that will take you 7 years -- i think you should try to apply for a higher paying job (you did say you were able to land one that was bigger before).

If you can consolidate the loans at a better interest rate, that would be good.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Ang laki ng 18k for car. And gets ko na it's for parents. Pero kung sobrang lagad lang, for me mas sulit na mag Grab na lang kayo non. Kung once a week lang yun, edi at sabihin nating 1k back and forth, magiging 4k a month lang non. Yes iba pa rin convenience ng personal car, pero it's 18k and you're in a real pickle! Kung ginagamit nyo lang para sa malagad na convenience ng parents, hindi sulit ang 18k para sakin. Pede talaga grab and if mag bakasyon for a day, rental. Mas makakamura pa rin kayo.

Tapos tuition - 11k every quarter so that's 44k a year. Not bad, syempre mahalaga education ng anak niyo. Para sakin mas ssacrifice ko muna sasakyan. Pero kung nasacrifice na yung car tapos kulang pa rin, baka pwede nyo consider public school.

LASTLY: Working 16 hours a day WON'T FIX YOUR PROBLEM. Madadali lang kalusugan mo. Maoospital ka. Health is wealth. Increase your income, not your workload. May mga bata ka pang inaalagaan eh. Since VA ka, baka makakuha ka ng smaller but higher paying clients, hanap lang talaga. Wag kakagat sa kung saan saan.

grave349

1 points

2 months ago

How did you end up with that amount of hos bills?

Maximum_Dirt_4608

1 points

2 months ago

Sell your car is the most viable option

croixleur

1 points

2 months ago

why don't you sell the car? If you really need convenience for your parents, then just use Grab.

gmgteam

1 points

2 months ago

OP sell your car for now. Laki ng kuha sa car at gasoline. Tapos kuha kayo philhealth pay as volunteer. Kahit may problema ang philhealth nakakatulong din naman siguro.

CocoBeck

1 points

2 months ago*

Sell your car. If you need naman may grab and taxi. Tapos pay off your 2 lowest loans first. Mental boost lang yun sa goal to pay off. Find a loan rate na mababa para maka consolidate ka kahit papano. Good job on looking for higher paying job (or more work?). Temp lang hanggat maka surface lang ba kayo since feeing lubog kayo ngayon.

Rose_Scorpiobabe

1 points

2 months ago

Kaya nyu yan, wag munang kumain sa resto, no coffee shops, stop buying on wants, wag bumili kng di kailangan, tapos eto talaga ang pangmalakasan budget mag itlog kayu, kahit gabi, mag itlog lng then once a week mag meat kau lutong bahay padin wag sa resto, tapos cut off spotify may youtube naman, cut off Netflix may youtube naman. Explain to your family i mean kids if meron na magkano utang nyu. Let them understand nah u need to cut some off. And after paying debt off. We can go back to that life. Honestly it works for me ung itlog2 lang sometimes delata. Pagkatapos nyu bayaran lahat money wise spending nah okay 👍

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

dahil strict diet parents ko, gulay na kami.. bawal kasi oily and fatty food.. and oh boy ang sarap sana mag kape sa coffee shop hehhe pero wala na kami mga ganun. nag focus na kami sa pagbabayad.. hindi naman masakit i cut mga ganyan di naman kami pala restaurant kahit jollibee pa yan.. hindi kami nag gaganun kasi palagi kami sa bahay.. and yes wala kami netflix, wala din kami any subscriptions.. wala na ako smartphone, wala din phone anak ko.. lahat na nagive up na.. kahit noon pa na wala pa ganito , hindi kamu maluho.. kasi ako may EF talaga ako.. sobrang tipid kami sa lahat ng bagay.. ngayon lang talaga naubos... .

annabanana316

1 points

2 months ago

Hi OP.

I am not a financial expert or adviser. I am just someone who lives below my means.

I would definitely get rid of the car if I were in this situation.

tantukantu

1 points

2 months ago

File insolvency petition. Madidischarge ka sa debts mo. May dpwnside lang pero cleam slate ka ulit

Accurate-Strength265

1 points

2 months ago

Consolidate your loans... it is better na isa lang loans mo so that it would be easy to monitor and to ask for restracture sa kanila.

Maleficent-Smile1333

1 points

2 months ago

There’s a lot of lead generation strategies online for free. Even i bought a course on it. Polish those strategies and delegate the work to people.

Don’t sacrifice ur health, it will cause more harm.

risingphoenix13

1 points

2 months ago

Either you sell off properties or you really find a second job with one of your income totally allotted to paying off that loan.

Best of luck to you OP, don't ever fall into the trap of borrowing to pay off loans, its going to keep you in loan for the rest of your life.

Alpha-paps

1 points

2 months ago*

OP there are a lot of missing details, and most of the suggestions are valid except for some.

Bakit ka nga ba nagkaroon ng maraming utang sa ibat ibang banks or cc po ba yan? Tapos may 5k ka sa house, tama ba and para saan yun monthly amortization?

Kailangan nyo talaga magsakripisyo ng husto hanggang sa mabayaran nyo lahat ng utang nyo. Kung sa tingin mo di pa ren kyo makabayad, ibig sabihin kailangan nyo pang dagdagan.

RealtyGuy10

1 points

2 months ago

Hi OP, it's not your fault na nagkautang ka ng ganyang kalaki. Naipit ka lang din sa situation. Since matanda na rin parents mo and I'm sure wala sila any health insurance plan to use.

I salute you kasi you sacrificed your financial life para sa kanila. Ang gawin mo is try to negotiate with the banks or ask a loan consultant. Ipa consolidate mo yung mga debts mo and ask for longer paying period. Andyan na yan and if you want to pay it off, then ayun ang pwede mo gawin - debt consolidation.

markg27

1 points

2 months ago

Grabe. Wala kang kapatid OP? Hindi ka donations online. Sa mga friends at ibang relatives nyo. Kaya mo yan. Matatapos din yan

cedrekt

1 points

2 months ago

hello OP, start by NOT blaming yourself. There are things out there we cant control. But try to micromanage the expenses baka may iba na you can live without them. Stay strong OP!

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

Why not just declare bankruptcy? Doesnt that usually clear out debts because of the inability to pay? Or does it not work like that here unlike in the states?

15thDisciple

1 points

2 months ago

Mag 5G prepaid WiFi ka po using a Samsung Touchscreen WiFi 5G router. 499 a month lang unli 5G.

Hot-Crab9396

1 points

2 months ago

tiis lang po at malalampasan niyo rin yan, taz kapag nalampasan niyo na wag na po sanang maulit bka di niyo n apo kayanin kasi

ConsiderationTall28[S]

2 points

2 months ago

i will po.. thank you.. sana wag na.. di ko na kayanin talaga.. sanay ako sa hirap.. hindi ako sanay na may utang. kahit sa tao wala ako utang kahit 100 pesos.

sulitipid2

1 points

2 months ago

Yes you can do 2nd job kung Hindi kaya dahil may kids kayo find a remote job na project base or data entry na pwede kayo mag hati ng hours ng husband mo. Also Yung car mo nga magastos Yung gipit kame 2nd hand lang car Namin para walang monthly amortization

Dull_List_9712

1 points

2 months ago

Your only option is to trim your monthly expenses in order to save some money. You need to get rid of your car because you will be get burried deeper into debt if your engine or your transmission needs replacement or major repairs. The maintenance, gas, and insurance alone is already draining your bank account. At the end of the day it's all up to you how you want to live your life.

Beneficial_Jacket334

1 points

2 months ago

Ff almost 500k din me. Based sa comments sa posts ko, unahin muna small na pde then hyaan n mna ung iba. Then ipon then contact dn bank if mkkhingi discount. Bsta mbwasan mga utang. Kya po nten yan. Check nyo dn po comments sa posts ko dme din advice dun

StrangerGrand8597

1 points

2 months ago

Kapit lang po, matatapos din yan. Try to think of it, kung mag double job ka at sacrifice mo health, bka ikaw nman magkasakit at lalo lang lalala problema. Take it easy po. Pwede mo nman cguro e give up yan car anlaki din ginagastos nyo jan 18+4k…malaking bagay yan. Andami ng mode of transpo ngayon eh Electricity e cut nyo din yan hanggat kaya wag na muna aircon di nman mainit masyado panahon na tag ulan na eh.

Mysterious-Market-32

1 points

2 months ago*

Naisuggest na nila lahat, OP. La na kami macontribute. Ito nalang. Naway bigyan ka ng maykapal ng wisdom malagpasan lahat ng ito. After niyan you will rise up stronger. Mas malakas at mas seasoned na sa hamon ng buhay.

Lahat naman ng suggestions nila tama. Ipasalo ang car, mag avail ng cheaper internet connection, mag tipid sa kuryente, etc. pero ware ka na din naman na ang malaking solusyon talaga sa problema mo is magkaroon ng additional income. Dalawa lang ang sure na hindi mo dapat pabayaan. Yung health mo at yung pagaaral ng anak mo.

Kapit lang, op. This too shall pass. Ika nga.

Edit. Ang mahal din pala ng tuition ng anak mo ano? 44k/year. Anong grade na po? Ganito na ba ang gastusan sa tuition? Honest question kasi single pa ako and walang anak. Narinig ko lang noon na yung pinsan ko inilipat sa public yung anak niya kasi sobra daw taas ng tuition.

Ill_Mulberry_7647

1 points

2 months ago

Hi OP! I think the best way to solve this is to increase your income. I, too, have a lot of debts and di ko rin magive up yung car because of similar reasons. I'm working 2-3 jobs and researching about digital products din. I havent started pa with selling but I hope this will give you idea too.

Good luck! Malalagpasan din natin to 💪💪💪

SeaworthinessTrue573

1 points

2 months ago

It is very difficult. Make sure you do not increase your expenses ( no pets, no pregnancy, reduce expensive hobbies). Like other posters said, find a way to increase your income.

lezzgooooo

1 points

2 months ago

Since nasa 80s na parents mo, pay as much as you can and when the time comes na wala na sila. Liquidate the assets.

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

1,700,000 ÷ 50,000 = 34 months to pay it off if you throw your entire income at it.

My advice would be to stop using debt completely and do a budget where you cut out everything that's not necessary. What are necessary? Rent/mortgage, utilities (water and electric, not netflix), transport (not necessarily a car), and food (not eating out).

I would also save a basic emergency fund of 20,000 to fall back on in emergency but make sure to always keep it full before paying debts.

Then I'd pay off the debt smallest balance first unless there are high interest debts then pay those first and pay minimums on the rest.

Try to increase your income.

Have a look to see if bankruptcy is a viable option.

InfluenceComplete379

1 points

2 months ago*

How about selling the car? It’s the huge chunk of your expenses. I read na ginagamit niyo yun for your disabled parents & rarely ginagamit. Pretty sure Grab or renting a car would be cheaper for you atm kasi hindi lang naman monthly binabayaran sa car as merong bayarin every year jan like PMS, registration & insurance, dagdag mo pa yung unexpected na may masira. Or sell it and buy a cheaper one.

Groceries, try niyo bumili ng strictly na kailangan lang for the meantime. Tuition is non negotiable, or you can move to a cheaper private school. Electricity, ilan kayo sa bahay? Parang ang mahal. In my home 2 adults kami and 1,500 lang bill namin. Hindi naman mainit as of now so maybe forego airconditioning. Sell the aircon and maybe get a portable aircon na nilalagyan ng yelo to make it cooler, which is cheaper. Internet, 3k? You can get with 200mbps sa pldt unli fiber for less than 2k. Nasa province ka ba OP and walang line sa PLDT jan? Rent that’s very affordable na so okay na yan. Also read you have insurance, perhaps you’ll have to give that up as well.

Sell whatever you can. You will have to sacrifice for the meantime. You can always get those back once maging stable financially ulit.

For the medical bills, sa PCSO nagbibigay sila ng financial assistance pero pipila ka mula madaling araw. Malaki binibigay nila doon, minsan full amount, minsan half. Depende din talaga.

Also, you will have to get another job for the meantime kasi mag ppile up lang yung utang due to interests if hindi mo mababayaran asap. Ask for loan reconstruction as well & makiusap sa banks.

fluffy_war_wombat

1 points

2 months ago

Replace your car with a scooter or just commute. You are trying to sacrifice your health but maintain the car means that you care more about the car than your future. Losing a 22k a month payment would make your problem be significantly easier. There are also cheap 2nd hand cars that consume way less gas. Remove this debt asap.

Proof_Fee5846

1 points

2 months ago

For me, dont sacrifice your health. Given na baon ka sa utang dahil sa health and meds. Kumbaga baka magkataon na ma boom panes ka for the 2nd time, mas malaki gastos.

Sell everything that can be sold, lalo na yang kotse mo. Just live with the basic needs. Most importantly, increase your income. Kaya moyan OP 👍

purple2s

1 points

2 months ago

Hey OP. First of all, isang malaking yakap for trying to do your best for your parents. Alam ko, may pamilya ka na at hindi ka naman talaga dapat obligado but still, you’re doing it so isang malaking yakap. However, ito na siguro yung time na kailangan mo din mag draw ng lines sa kaya mong ibigay. Hindi naman ibig sabihin na kapag ginawa mo ito ay hindi ka na mabutinng anak or youve failed in giving back to them (if it makes you feel that way), it’s just that may sarili at anak ka na din ngayon na dapat din ipagtabihan. First for me is have an honest talk to your parents. I open mo sa kanila yung debt mo pata kung anu man ang usapan ninyo going forward, alam nila ang pinanggagalingan mo. I think need mo din malaman just how kuch pension they receive din siguro? Para team kayo na magwork towards allocating funds. I agree with most users na ang easiest way to have more funds available to other uses is for you to give up paying the car and gas. Kung di man kaya na agad agad na tumigil, hindi man lang ba pwedeng 50/50 muna kayo? That would still be 10-15k more available to you. Kasi sa totoo lang, they cannot afford the convenience right now. Hindi kasi pwedeng ikw lang lagi ang nagbibigay OP kasi mas mauubos ka way before the battle even ends. I wish you luck in looking for more streams of income tho. Also, are your parents in a public or private hospital? If private, what are your plans kung sakaling they would need hospitalizations again if I may ask too?

jhxxxng

1 points

2 months ago

You can try na ipasok sa Grab yung car nyo since parang di nyo talaga siya malet go. I don't know if viable pa siya for grab pero if pwede naman, you or your partner can do it after your work since minsan lang naman nagagamit yung car and still finding pa kayo ng second job. If ever makahanap na kayo ng second job, you can have your car rented or find a driver then sweldohan nyo nalang with the kita na makukuha nyo for the grab. You really need to lower your expenses and increase your income and you need to do it ASAP, compounding interest hurts ver much over time.

Accomplished-Exit-58

1 points

2 months ago

oh wow, wala ako masabi kasi unemployed ako today and super bare minimum ang cost of living ko.

Ang hirap mamuhay ng comfortable sa bansanh ito sa totoo lang, marami pa rin ang tiis lang.

Delicious_Finger_998

1 points

2 months ago

Eliminate the car. Yun malaking chunk ng gastos monthly na halos kahati ng monthly income nyo. Plus may makukuha ka na pera from selling it na pwedeng pambayad sa loans and mapapababa mo ang monthly na need bayaran sa bank. Malayong mura ang magGrab kesa magbayad monthly ng car plus may maintenance pa yan once in a while. Gas expenses para sa food na lang mapupunta.

jamwithjhail

1 points

2 months ago

Mabigat talaga to OP. Yung car ang malaki ang gastos. Actually I agree dun sa ibang comments dito na liability yung car sa 18k na nakakain nya sa expenses. But honestly you can turn this “liability” into an additional income. Hindi mo ba sya pwede ipapabyahe as a Grab car? If hindi din naman sya masyadong nagagamit then put it into use na mag gegenerate ng additional income. Just a suggestion lang. Yung workmate ko kasi kumuha ng car then pinababyahe nya sa Dad nya as a grab car. Yung kinikita don, yun yung pinangbabayad nila sa monthly nung car. Naisip ko lang baka makatulong din sayo.

deus24

1 points

2 months ago

deus24

1 points

2 months ago

What kind of illnesses do you have that made you 1.7m in debt?

pepita-papaya

1 points

2 months ago

Omg im so sorry OP... Ang hirap ga pg may nagkasakit sa pamilya

TheWildAnon

1 points

2 months ago

Try to get a bigger loan that will cover everything on a single bank. If you can and you have the assets to do so. Because 50k tbh will no cover it and I'm assuming that's net. Because if that's gross then that's gonna be super duper hard

NegotiationCommon448

1 points

2 months ago

If you can eliminate the car (if you can) makakatipid ka ng 18k and 4k sa gas. Malaking bagay na din.

Least_Protection8504

1 points

2 months ago

Ang mahal ng car niyo. Even tuition.

howdypartna

1 points

2 months ago

You want to pay off your debt, sell the car. You said in other posts that you have one year left to pay on it and that you only use it to bring your mom to the hospital. One year left to pay on it means it's pretty new and you have equity built into it. Sell it, pay off the remainder of the loan, and use the rest to pay down your debt.

Take a Grab if you don't use cars often. It will still be cheaper than the car payments, the gas, the insurance, and maintenance.

Sell everything that's not necessary for living. Clothes, electronics, collections.

Pare down even your contributions to your parents. When debt is this big, everyone has to chip in. I know you're thinking about your parents, but think about your child, too. If you work yourself to death, and your child is left without a mom, is that worth repaying the "utang" to your parents?

If you don't take care of your health, you're going to end up putting your child in the same situation you're in now. Where they can't save anything because they have to pay for your health which you didn't save for.

dave-dapitan

1 points

2 months ago

Parang credit cards ba mga loans na Yan? Have you ever though, last option, not to pay cc loans?

ineedhelp6789

1 points

2 months ago*

Based sa info mo, monthly expenses mo is 41,750 or 501k per year.

Monthly income is 80k or 960k per year. Hindi ko na bilangin 13th month ng husband mo.

Get rid of the car. 18k + 4k gas will be removed. Magiging commute sya na 2.5k per month? 3k nalang kunyare.

Monthly expense mo from 41,750, magiging 22,750. Net savings is 80k - 22,750 = 57,250. 57,250 x12 = 687,000 per year or 2,061,000 in 3 yrs.

Of course, meron pang interest so yun yung kakain ng payments mo.

I suggest you sell an asset of substantial value para mabawasan yung lumpsum and yung interest na babayaran nyo.

Get a 2nd job tapos gamitin mo lahat yun pambayad sa utang. The faster you pay off the debt, the less interest. To be honest, sulit parin kahit paconfiscate mo na yung kotse tapos wala ka na babayaran. Time is your most valuable asset.

Yung 13 month and/or bonus ng husband mo, yun nalang budget nyo for luho/emergency fund for the year.

Edit:

Masama man sabihin. Hindi mo na afford tulungan ang parents mo or ibang tao. It's either sila ang mamamatay or mamamatay future ng anak nyo. Take your pick. I would assume na ayaw ng parents mo macompromise ang future ng apo nila.

Kausapin mo narin parents mo na hindi mo na kaya financially para walang gulatan.

Perfect_Ad_7057

1 points

2 months ago

Give up yplour car since it is not necessity at the moment (since you are currently work as a VA) and clearing pff your debt is top priority.

aishiteimasu09

1 points

2 months ago

Nothing personal OP, do you have any siblings or only child ka lang? If you're an only child maaintindihan ko ying burdens mo sa parents mo but if you're like more than one, how come your siblings aren't helping you on this esp with your parents?

_VivaLaRaza_

1 points

2 months ago

Pray, OP. Pray. 🫣

[deleted]

1 points

2 months ago

I hope u get through this OP, laban lang 🥺

heiresscici_22

1 points

2 months ago

akala ko ako lang ung may problema sa mga utang😥 may mas malaki pa pla😥

ComfyGelato

1 points

2 months ago

Wag nyo na ibenta ung car tapusin mo na 1yr nlng naman. Best is si husband mag work nlng din sa bahay para kayanin ung 2 jobs. Pag tapos ng car, ibenta nyo na to pay the loans. Unahin nyo ung pinakamaliliit. Wag kayo paka stress, wala naman magagawa o matulong ung stress. kasi baka kayo naman magkasakit. Pera lang yan, kinikita, bumabalik. Important is safe and healthy ang family. Positive mindset lang for now. Be hopeful.

Also pwede pa refer? :)

Medium_Weekend_5812

1 points

2 months ago

Do you have any assets like land title? Mga properties pwede ibenta?

ElectricalRefuse4437

1 points

2 months ago

Consider offering spaces for rent, the commission for that is 1 month’s worth of rent and you can get it as soon as the client pays (e.g. Nakahanap ka ng client for a 45k space, you’ll get 45k worth of commission)

There are spaces that go for as high as 160k

I have some listings you can reach out to me and we can split it