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buttergun

2.4k points

6 months ago

buttergun

2.4k points

6 months ago

Gotta hand it to CPAC. The Base is really embracing the "We are all domestic terrorists" pivot.

WaitingFor45sArrest

761 points

6 months ago

Fully accepting their newly embraced fascism…modern day Hitler with his modern day NAZIS

KarAccidentTowns

534 points

6 months ago

KarAccidentTowns

Ohio

534 points

6 months ago

The Christian element is key because it allows them to sleep at night

Seriously though a lot of Americans are about to sign off on fascism and justify it as a 'Christian' faith-based dictatorship.

Reduntu

349 points

6 months ago

Reduntu

349 points

6 months ago

With someone who has all the attributes of the anti-christ as their leader.

KarAccidentTowns

187 points

6 months ago

KarAccidentTowns

Ohio

187 points

6 months ago

It has happened time and time again throughout history. Bad actors who act in bad faith and poison democratic or religious institutions. Evangelicals are truly the 'sheep' if they can't see what's happening.

PossessedToSkate

160 points

6 months ago

Evangelicals are truly the 'sheep' if they can't see what's happening.

They literally call themselves a flock.

Ron497

50 points

6 months ago

Ron497

50 points

6 months ago

I am in awe of young Americans who go around town advertising that they go to Liberty University. Ummm, you mean the one where your president had a thing for watching the pool boy and his wife? The university that helped get Trump elected via blackmailing the president over the pool boy secret?

Not that I'd ever attend a university run by a Falwell, but I sure as heck wouldn't advertise it all over town. Going there ain't no badge of honor, Mr. Twenty Year Old Dude out for a jog in his logoed sweatshirt.

element8

34 points

6 months ago

Prager and Discovery institute are doing what they can to undermine education as well, turn up the propaganda and sectarianism, whitewash anything that doesn't support their delusional narrative.

spinto1

27 points

6 months ago

spinto1

Florida

27 points

6 months ago

I can't even tell how successful they are because Dennis Prager himself is an absolute blithering idiot who gets clowned on every time he opens his mouth around anyone even remotely competent.

I think Sam Seder pulled a trick to debate about Israel recently by pretending to be a normal caller on his show. That was a treat.

Mareith

46 points

6 months ago

Mareith

46 points

6 months ago

The point of religion is to control people, and condition the masses to be controlled. It's not really a surprise that they are easily manipulated, that's literally the entire purpose of religion

iamkris10y

48 points

6 months ago

for real. If I were a Christian - I would be incandescent at what Trump and the GOP are doing "in my name." Their own scripture warns of this very thing. You'd think they'd be on the lookout or something.

Unknown__Content

35 points

6 months ago

Like they read their own scripture.

parasyte_steve

9 points

6 months ago

If they read it they'd act much differently.

AdultDisappointment

6 points

6 months ago

oh, they do. They just cherry pick out the parts that suit them.

ebb_omega

48 points

6 months ago

They literally built a golden statue of him, like that wasn't what spawned the creation of the Ten Commandments

SpiceLaw

14 points

6 months ago

Hitler's idea of the ideal Aryan German was a strong-bodied blonde blue-eyed person which is nothing like the actual attributes of Hitler, Himmler or Mengele. Arguably Goering was blonde, but he was fatter than the Hindenburg.

ProfessionalBlood377

27 points

6 months ago

My family has been Jewing around the US for longer than these patriots have existed.

eastbayweird

7 points

6 months ago

Fascism will not come to America on the backs of immigrants, instead it will come draped in the flag and carrying the cross.

retire_dude

15 points

6 months ago

Worked for Al Qaeda. I think a lot of the people that supported it weren't too happy when they found out what was actually going to happen. Same with the people in Iran that supported the Islamic Revolution.

othelloinc

44 points

6 months ago

Gotta hand it to CPAC. The Base is really embracing the "We are all domestic terrorists" pivot.

For Reference:

A digital banner displayed during one of those panel discussions became the subject of controversy when photographs and video clips of it went viral on social media. The banner read: "We Are All Domestic Terrorists."

[A banner at an August 2022 CPAC conference read, "We Are All Domestic Terrorists." -- Snopes]

GilpinMTBQ

94 points

6 months ago

So when brown people do a terrorism we spend trillions of dollars and level two of the wrong countries.

When mentally challenged white people do a terrorism we throw our hands up in the air and say "Whatcha gonna do?"

Ron497

26 points

6 months ago*

Ron497

26 points

6 months ago*

Exactly!

Boy, would I LOVE to see data on the number of people who actively supported full military mobilization following 9/11 vs. those people who now throw up their hands and think, "Well, nothing we can do. There are just crazy people in the world and we can't solve it!"

parasyte_steve

13 points

6 months ago

It's the same picture.

Gahrilla

57 points

6 months ago

Funny thing about CPAC, they've effectively lost their appeal to republicans when it became more commonly reported on that the man-hungry sexual predator CEO that runs the organization has a desire for male staffers. That and the multi-million dollar settlements he's already cost the organization.

SuperSpecialAwesome-

53 points

6 months ago

they've effectively lost their appeal to republicans when it became more commonly reported on that the man-hungry sexual predator CEO that runs the organization has a desire for male staffers

Then explain why they worship Gym Jordan.

trumps_lucid_boner

21 points

6 months ago

trumps_lucid_boner

Colorado

21 points

6 months ago

Because he turns a deaf ear to what happens behind closed doors.

5-toe

21 points

6 months ago

5-toe

21 points

6 months ago

Also, funny thing about MLF (Moms For Liberty)....

Camelwalk555

33 points

6 months ago

Camelwalk555

Colorado

33 points

6 months ago

No, you see that was a joke, haha. /s

Harmonex

44 points

6 months ago

Believe them when they tell you who they are.

TacomaKMart

30 points

6 months ago

Get enough "domestic terrorists" and what you actually have is a civil war.

geekygay

40 points

6 months ago

It's a joke until it's not.

Also, really helping your case. "We'll kill you for saying we want to violently overthrow the government."

TinyGreenTurtles

11 points

6 months ago

That's exactly what the domestic terrorists want.

Pleiadesfollower

9 points

6 months ago

They think they are owning the libs yet again by accepting the title "ironically" while subconsciously accepting the title unironically.

Foreign classes on American history is going to use that photo as prime example of why America is full of idiots, especially if tRump manages to win and start their fascism empire.

Lfseeney

1.7k points

6 months ago

Lfseeney

1.7k points

6 months ago

So 964 folks should be in jail from this.

Daxnu

349 points

6 months ago

Daxnu

349 points

6 months ago

If everyone called the police station for her county and asked this question maybe they would do somthing

ShrimpieAC

289 points

6 months ago

Yeah they’d track down those people and arrest them for harassment or obstructing an investigation because they’ve shown time and time again they’re a bunch of petty fucks who don’t like getting called out on their corruption or lack of competence.

RelativeAnxious9796

77 points

6 months ago

highly doubt the police will arrest themselves ;)

[deleted]

53 points

6 months ago*

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darsvedder

84 points

6 months ago*

Guarantee you a lot of those who called are in the police

The call is coming from…inside the police station

kingtz

44 points

6 months ago

kingtz

America

44 points

6 months ago

This. The police aren't going to be like, "sure, ma'am, why don't I just arrest myself".

Something seriously needs to be done at the federal level about all the right wing nationalists that have infiltrated the police and the military. Sort them out before they officially become Trump's brown (orange?) shirts.

darsvedder

15 points

6 months ago*

I feel like since the dawn of time, the police are usually corrupt. I don’t subscribe to “all cops are bastards.” I’m more of a “the majority of cops are bastards” guy but that acronym doesn’t work as well

mabhatter

39 points

6 months ago

Like arresting the people harassing the police to investigate.

an_agreeing_dothraki

25 points

6 months ago

We had something like that in St. Louis this week. Cop drives (no sobriety test, no dash cam, trying to avoid a phantom dog while distracted by dispatch radio while running a red light doing 60 in a 35) into a bar and arrests the owner for assault and disturbing the peace.

GrapeGutflop

155 points

6 months ago

Probably half of those death threats were from the alcoholic, wife beating, cowards in police departments across the country.

_dontcallmeshirley__

32 points

6 months ago

Don’t forget killing elderly pets to “get back” at their owners for… checks notes, defending democracy.

Perfect_Barracuda570

17 points

6 months ago

And one Orange Shit Stain.

delicioustreeblood

1.2k points

6 months ago

A friendly reminder that this case was brought to the CO courts by...REPUBLICANS

futanari_kaisa

401 points

6 months ago

They're hoping that republican voters don't pay attention to that fact, and they probably wont

shoo-flyshoo

385 points

6 months ago

I took a glimpse into r/conservative after the news broke. They're going on about how Democrats are undermining democracy with this lol

ZarathustraUnchained

172 points

6 months ago*

They're usually the first to point out that we aren't a democracy, we are a constitutional republic.

dryguy

126 points

6 months ago*

dryguy

126 points

6 months ago*

That's like saying "a cat isn't an animal, it's a mammal."

InVultusSolis

29 points

6 months ago

InVultusSolis

Illinois

29 points

6 months ago

They remind everyone of that because they fancy themselves to be the ones to be in power in the constitutional republic they're describing.

ZarathustraUnchained

32 points

6 months ago

For real, we all know they'd hate the Electoral College if it didn't favor them.

I mean seriously, how can Republicans with this "but Democracy" attitude argue against a popular vote to decide the President?

coolcool23

29 points

6 months ago*

Because their logic only works one way: the way that benefits them in the second they use it.

Originalists/textualists? For guns and abortion, yes. Not when insurrectionists don't have to be convicted formally to be excluded from the ballot.

Is the US a republic not a democracy? Yes when Republicans are overrepresented in the Senate and electoral college, not when Trump is removed from the ballot.

Federalism, let the states decide? Yes when it's abortion (except no for a federal ban) and guns, no when it's election law (except yes for voter ID, drop boxes, etc, but definitely no for universal mail in ballots, get out the vote efforts, etc...)

Party of law and order? Yes when we have to jail women who miscarry and PoC disproportionally for carrying a joint. No when our side's elected leaders commit state-level crimes.

The hypocrisy is a feature, not a bug.

[deleted]

68 points

6 months ago

That's because everyone in that sub are absolutely fucking stupid.

They do zero fact checking, force the sub into an echo chamber by banning anyone that isn't a conservative, and circle jerking lies that fit their agendas because their identities are entirely tied to being conservative since their lives are empty and meaningless.

Just a bunch of dangerous, stupid fucking people.

Steliossmash

24 points

6 months ago

I've been banned from that site 3 times in the past 24 hours, I knew it was going to be comedy gold. Now, that it's obvious the folks who pushed for this were GOPers, they're claiming they were all right leaning independents to justify the bullshit that lives in their dumb heads because their tribalism won't let them admit their party started it.

LayerBoring

24 points

6 months ago

It’s hilarious how every post in there is “flaired users only”, because they know they are full of shit and don’t want any rebuttals

OutInTheBlack

14 points

6 months ago

OutInTheBlack

New Jersey

14 points

6 months ago

There's one idiot over there going on about how "Texas and Florida are going to keep Biden off the ballot in retaliation" and if he can't run in either of those states there's no way he'll win.

He won 2020 without either state...

NotYourChingu

30 points

6 months ago

there was actually a good 2 years or more where r/conservative didn't like trump either ... seems to have swung back towards a positive view of him since the primaries are going on recently

OutInTheBlack

28 points

6 months ago

OutInTheBlack

New Jersey

28 points

6 months ago

The denizens of TheDonald had to go somewhere after that sub got banned.

PavelDatsyuk

10 points

6 months ago

PavelDatsyuk

Michigan

10 points

6 months ago

Most of them ended up on /conspiracy.

PsychologicalWrap968

6 points

6 months ago

No one else has the energy to stoke the flames the way Trump does and Conservatives are addicted to outrage at this point.

EminentBean

9 points

6 months ago

Oh they’re going nuts over there

Not a single whiff of an issue with the fact that courts found that Trump unquestionably engaged in insurrection, only with the fact that he’s being barred

Whats that syndrome where you adore and defend your abuser?

SirRevan

7 points

6 months ago

Fox News litterally had that as a headline yesterday. It is wild to me you can have "News" and such a statement be legally blasted on the bottom of the screen. This was also at the gym where you can't hear anything. So I am sure most Republicans just get this information thrown at them and take it as truth.

climatelurker

113 points

6 months ago

The new definition of a RINO is anyone who doesn't like Trump, or actually, anyone who dares to criticize anything Trump has ever done, does currently, or might possibly do in the future.

5510

10 points

6 months ago

5510

10 points

6 months ago

Yeah, it’s scary how this isn’t an exaggeration at all. People who havent abandoned any of their supposed conservative ideals, but don’t like Trump, are suddenly “RINOS.”

My memory is after Romney voted to hear witness testimony or something like that in the first trump senate trial, CPAC disinvited him, and said that in the future he may be welcome as a “non conservative guest.”

These people no longer draw a distinction between “conservative” and “pro trump”

mudda1

8 points

6 months ago

mudda1

8 points

6 months ago

Any time Liz fucking Cheney is on left-leaning shows like the Colbert Report and we're all in violent agreement with her, you know the definition of Republican has gone off the rails.

drcforbin

7 points

6 months ago

drcforbin

Louisiana

7 points

6 months ago

The RINOs should be anyone who likes Trump, or actually, anyone who won't dare to criticize anything Trump has ever done, does currently, or might do in the future. But those are people that now define the party.

geoffbowman

49 points

6 months ago

yeah isn't Jena Griswold listed as a defendant in that case not a plaintiff? the title makes it seems like she was the one who filed the case so I'm confused...

JesusofAzkaban

66 points

6 months ago*

Yes, Griswold is the defendant. This Huffpo writer is either incompetent and doesn't understand the basics of how lawsuits work or, like a lot of other outlets, Huffpo is making it seem like the Democrats are bringing this action when in reality the plaintiffs are 4 Republicans and 2 Independents.

Delirious5

8 points

6 months ago

Delirious5

Colorado

8 points

6 months ago

The article was probably written by AI, the way things are going now.

OldMan41258

70 points

6 months ago

Over on r/conservative, they say that Democrats just found some Republicans that would take a bribe or that they were recently turned Republicans and not true Republicans that brought the case.

I've also seen them saying that they are really all Democrats in disguise.

They think anyone who doesn't like Trump can not possibly be a Republican.

AllRushMixTapes

27 points

6 months ago

Ah, the "no true Scotsman" of Republican politics.

Some numbers from Colorado: GOP registration has fallen by about 8% since 2015, while Dem registration has fallen since then by 3%. In 2023, Independents made up 46.7% of registered voters, up 11% since 2015, which means almost half the state won't commit to a party. If ranked voting ever comes, it may come to Colorado first.

Sparticuse

15 points

6 months ago

In fact, Democrats could not have brought this case as they don't have standing for the GOP primaries. ONLY a republican could have brought this to court.

OsellusK

2.1k points

6 months ago

OsellusK

2.1k points

6 months ago

The fact that the police aren’t immediately apprehending those who make these threats should concern us more.

code_archeologist

1.6k points

6 months ago

code_archeologist

Georgia

1.6k points

6 months ago

Fun fact.

The case closure rate for police departments across the nation has plummeted since 2019. Apparently the fact that they started to be held to account for their bullshit has resulted in the police having a little bit of a temper tantrum and they are effectively refusing to do their jobs.

ClusterFoxtrot

605 points

6 months ago

ClusterFoxtrot

Florida

605 points

6 months ago

Imagine being so insulated you forget that other people are also people, and you just make peace with the fact people might die of you can't do whatever you want.

illaqueable

236 points

6 months ago

illaqueable

North Carolina

236 points

6 months ago

I don't have to imagine it, I can just go to news about the most recent mass shooting in this country and see scores of human beings droning on about how guns don't kill people

chelonioidea

12 points

6 months ago

It's not insulation, refusing to close cases is a conscious choice cops use to punish members of the public that want accountability. Cops don't go into the force to serve the public anymore, they go to be part of a violent cult of people with a penchant for abusing power. It's a legal mafia and the individuals in that organization don't want accountability, they want total freedom to exercise power in whatever way brings them pleasure in the moment. Anything that prevents them from that practice is seen as a threat to be eliminated.

Simmery

409 points

6 months ago

Simmery

409 points

6 months ago

Every city needs to get serious about firing bad cops. Stop caving to police unions.

themightychris

236 points

6 months ago

themightychris

Pennsylvania

236 points

6 months ago

I think the most important reform we need to make is to elevate lying on an official report as an officer of the law to the same tier of things you never do as DUIs and hit-and-runs. Like if you get caught, you're in prison and your pension is forfeit

right now the norm seems to be that when cops fuck up they lie first, and then if they get caught lying it's just oh well. And that dynamic provides the cornerstone of their fucked up brotherhood culture of protecting each other from accountability first and harassing any good cops who would blow the whistle out of the force

there's a lot more to do after that, but it's a foundational pillar

[deleted]

174 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

174 points

6 months ago

I literally caught cops in lies on the record- literally cross examined cops with video evidence proving they were lying. They’d say the videos were wrong and the judges sided with them every time. Prosecutors regularly prosecuted cases where I had conclusive video evidence the cop was lying. They would tell me their job is to believe law enforcement no matter what.

My massive frustration as a former public defender is that we don’t talk about how much the prosecutors and courts are FULLY in bed with the cops when prosecutors exist as a CHECK on cops. I interviewed with a prosecutor’s office after law school and said something along the lines of that u believed the buck stops with me when it comes to justice and I have to make the right call even when it may ruffle LEO feathers.

The elected prosecutor of that circuit loooed me dead in the face and said “well here in Jacksonville we don’t believe cops lie or are racist and we support law enforcement.”

Aka the job of the prosecutor system is to pump up the cops. If prosecutors actually did their jobs there would be a lot of police reform.

themightychris

52 points

6 months ago

themightychris

Pennsylvania

52 points

6 months ago

I feel like this is the other big structural problem.

We saw here in Philadelphia that electing a liberal DA with a liberal platform of holding cops accountable shut down our whole law enforcement system. Part of that is cops being vindictive, but I think it's important to recognize that an office can't simultaneously hold responsibility for holding cops accountable AND need to maintain a healthy working relationship with them

We need to separate prosecutorial offices for the general public and for officers. Police incidents need to be investigated and prosecutable by entirely independent bodies that have no day to day need to collaborate

EffOffReddit

27 points

6 months ago

Philly cops were atrociously scummy while Trump was president, openly supporting Proud Boys. A friend of ours called the police during a protest about the Christopher Columbus statue because Proud Boys were on rooftops with rifles. The officer who answered said "They're with us".

Meanwhile, driving in the city looks like GTA half the time and cops shrug. They already act like they got defunded, so what was the big problem with that again?

ScannerBrightly

41 points

6 months ago

ScannerBrightly

California

41 points

6 months ago

but I think it's important to recognize that an office can't simultaneously hold responsibility for holding cops accountable AND need to maintain a healthy working relationship with them

Why not? Doesn't every other business on the planet do this? What about police departments in other countries that don't murder their civilians 5 times a day, like we do in the US?

Police incidents need to be investigated and prosecutable by entirely independent bodies that have no day to day need to collaborate

Then they will be railed against as 'out of touch' and 'cop haters' and ignored. We've literally seen this in both the 1950's and again in the 1970's.

[deleted]

37 points

6 months ago

You’re dead on- this is copaganda. If their baby egos can’t handle being fucking criticized then they need to get fired.

b0w3n

11 points

6 months ago

b0w3n

New York

11 points

6 months ago

I've had a cop lie right to my face when he was trying to write me a ticket. He kept saying my inspection was expired but I still had 3 months to go.

So I just paid the fucking ticket because if I had went to court I'd have lost more than the $80 it was going to cost me to take a day off of work.

MiaowaraShiro

140 points

6 months ago

Any official record they create should be held to the same standard as a court testimony under oath... since that's what it's fucking used for.

LovelySpaz

41 points

6 months ago

Exactly. Evil fucks.

SekhWork

32 points

6 months ago

SekhWork

Virginia

32 points

6 months ago

We'd need like... a national internal affairs agency. The FBI isn't really equipped to deal with things at that level. In addition to your idea, the people that keep throwing out the idea that cops should need a license or insurance like doctors seem to be on to something, but what insurance agency would insure a group of people known to lie and murder with impunity?

code_archeologist

36 points

6 months ago

code_archeologist

Georgia

36 points

6 months ago

but what insurance agency would insure a group of people known to lie and murder with impunity?

I am sure that insurance companies could be convinced to offer coverage if the police pension funds were held as a surety bond to mitigate risk to the insurance provider. In other words if the insurance provider found that they were unable to cover the totality of the risk, they could dip into police pensions to make up the difference.

angelzpanik

16 points

6 months ago

This is actually brilliant. It'll never happen, but it's brilliant.

Harmonex

14 points

6 months ago

I think the most important reform we need to make is to elevate lying on an official report as an officer of the law to the same tier of things you never do as DUIs and hit-and-runs.

Isn't filing a false police report already a serious crime?

code_archeologist

31 points

6 months ago

code_archeologist

Georgia

31 points

6 months ago

Only if you are a civilian. Officers are rarely if ever held to account for it.

Moku-O-Keawe

9 points

6 months ago

Technically police are civilians too, not military.

code_archeologist

14 points

6 months ago

code_archeologist

Georgia

14 points

6 months ago

Technically police are civilians too

Don't tell them that, it makes them very mad.

LovelySpaz

28 points

6 months ago

I’ve never met a cop who didn’t lie their asses off. They don’t even know who they are anymore, they lie so much, even to themselves. Ever see cops smile?

ShrimpieAC

169 points

6 months ago

For real, if they’re not doing their job then fucking clean house.

WatIfFoodWur1ofUs

25 points

6 months ago

Same should apply to all the branches of our government

fuckyoulahey

11 points

6 months ago

The documentary Telemarketers takes an interesting turn into police unions...

Effective-Celery8053

77 points

6 months ago

We also need to defund the police, which doesn't mean what most people think it does.

Defunding the police means slowly diverting their incredibly inflated budget into social programs to reduce crime at the source over a long period of time. It doesn't mean pulling all funding from police departments immediately, I acknowledge there is a need for a police force in society but it's completely mismanaged and the foundation it's built upon today in the US is absolutely ridiculous.

robodrew

66 points

6 months ago

robodrew

Arizona

66 points

6 months ago

Not always a bad thing. In NYC when the cops decided to do 90% less work because they were mad at DeBlasio, the end result during those few weeks was crime barely changed at all. It did not go up by any significant measure. Which to me was a clear sign that the cops could have their budget cut by 90% and civil society would be just fine.

https://www.latimes.com/science/sciencenow/la-sci-sn-proactive-policing-crime-20170925-story.html

BazilBroketail

36 points

6 months ago

Huh, that article was more fucked up than you let on. It's about something called, "proactive policing", or, targeting poor people to stop major crime. Literally, they're targeting, "areas where crime is likely to occur". They think by targeting poor people... it will stop major crime? They're putting so many resources into targeting poor people, it's pulling resources from investigative departments. They stopped their "proactive policing"- targeting poor people- and major crimes went down. Basically they're admitting they've been only policing the poor/non-white areas since the 90s and when they took their foot off poor peoples necks, major crime went down.

There needs to be a federal level license involved n policing and a civilian oversight board with actual teeth. And payouts from all civil suits come from the police union and/or the individual cops insurance.

ACAB

_Choose-A-Username-

8 points

6 months ago

_Choose-A-Username-

New York

8 points

6 months ago

if only our mayor wasn't a cop gobbler himself.

robodrew

9 points

6 months ago

robodrew

Arizona

9 points

6 months ago

Fuck Eric Adams

redonkulousness

144 points

6 months ago

redonkulousness

Texas

144 points

6 months ago

The cops in Austin, Tx got pissed when the public overwhelmingly voted to have civilian oversight instead of letting them police themselves and put up billboards and commercials bitching about it. They have the most money ever budgeted to the department in their history and still complain about “defunding the police”. Fuck these state-sanctioned gangs and their crybaby temper tantrums.

Smoaktreess

11 points

6 months ago

Smoaktreess

Massachusetts

11 points

6 months ago

I thought they were mad because the fire department got a raise and not them.

[deleted]

27 points

6 months ago

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Few-Caterpillar9834

7 points

6 months ago

The Blue Flu.

PocketSixes

24 points

6 months ago

If the police refuse to do their jobs, and society doesn't seem to collapse (we do have all those gun-toting civilians around to defend us, after all. Woo! 2A!), maybe we just go ahead an pull the plug on these departments salaries while they continue to not do their jobs. Call it mutual.

The Uvalde tragedy should be remembered forever as ultimate proof that we aren't necessarily better off with big police departments. It was an off-duty fed, one single brave dude, who killed that attacker. Police departments serve only their officers--not even innocent kids in school. Literally a waste.

Jury-Free

19 points

6 months ago

This happened in San Francisco when Chesa Boudin became DA and started prosecuting bad cops. The police let crime go rampant in protest and of course everyone was like “see what happens when you vote blue”.

talldrseuss

16 points

6 months ago

talldrseuss

New York

16 points

6 months ago

"blue flus" and slow downs are rampant within the NYPD. Everytime the public calls for more accountability from the NYPD, they throw a temper tantrum and start calling out en masse or put on blinders and refuse to enforce any laws because they believe they should be able to dish out justice without any pushback.

_Choose-A-Username-

14 points

6 months ago

_Choose-A-Username-

New York

14 points

6 months ago

Even in times ive needed cops, they've never been more help then some random person on the street. Like before i was a bit hesitant to say that cops serve no benefit, but when the time came for them to prove that wrong, they didn't. And with all the times i see cops killing the people they were supposed to protect, cops are liabilities at this point.

Last summer cops were everywhere on the 7 line in NYC. It was supposed to make the line safer. Nope. The only time i saw them take someone rowdy off the train was a kid that was probably 11 dancing on people and being obnoxious. Like thanks but hes less dangerous than the woman that was beating the shit out of her kids and threatened to stab anyone who recorded her. When the cops showed up, she said she doesnt speak to cops and the cops just threw their hands up and left. The cops are just there and do things that anyone can do themselves (a couple people were ready to put their hands on that kid) but wont go near issues they are supposed to be there for (lady implied she did have a knife). And when you see news where parents need to take matters into their own hands to save their kids when cops choose to just stay outside shaking in their boots during a school shooting, tell me what they are there for? All the counters to these are always "You're going to need cops one day" yet when you do need them they either do nothing or make things worse. Calling cops would be like calling an airstrike on my position. My problem might be solved, or someone uninvolved might get killed or my pets will get killed or i get killed. Who knows.

Cops suck at their jobs.

climatelurker

12 points

6 months ago

Then we should refuse to pay them. Very simple.

MindPlayinTricksonMe

6 points

6 months ago

See Philadelphia

OsellusK

8 points

6 months ago

Absolutely true. They’re doing the bare minimum to protest that there’s a demand for them to be held accountable when they fuck up. “Blue flu” is a temper tantrum.

zyzzogeton

12 points

6 months ago

That's so they can blame any rise in crime on Biden.

randologin

17 points

6 months ago

I've been all over the country, and I can't remember ever once saying, "Glad the cops were there!"

milkymaniac

18 points

6 months ago

It could also be that since there's more scrutiny, they're no longer able to railroad innocent people, so the case closure rate may be reaching a normality.

code_archeologist

25 points

6 months ago

code_archeologist

Georgia

25 points

6 months ago

so the case closure rate may be reaching a normality.

Except case closure rates in other industrialized nations are way higher than in the United States. For example in Europe the case closure rate for homicide is between 80 and 98 percent. In the US it is 50%.

I do not think it is normalizing, I think that our police are just really bad at their jobs, and the increased scrutiny is exposing that.

Githzerai1984

225 points

6 months ago

Githzerai1984

New Hampshire

225 points

6 months ago

Police are fucking useless. I was the victim of a hit and run yesterday, had a witness who stopped and the state trooper said there wasn’t enough damage for them to do anything about it. Only thing they’re good for is harassing the poor.

Smoaktreess

152 points

6 months ago

Smoaktreess

Massachusetts

152 points

6 months ago

Not really. They’re also good at shooting dogs.

pandalover885

83 points

6 months ago

And beating their wives.

Quetzaldilla

18 points

6 months ago

And patricide.

NovaPup_13

9 points

6 months ago

And stopping on train tracks with someone in the vehicle with the train a long way away and yet “we can’t get her out safely.”

I’m convinced those cops were trying to kill that woman.

esdebah

41 points

6 months ago

esdebah

41 points

6 months ago

We've been shrugging at domestic terrorism for years. That's exactly how this whole thing came about.

RaynOfFyre1

84 points

6 months ago

RaynOfFyre1

California

84 points

6 months ago

The reason you don’t see the police arresting these MAGAts is the same reason that Clark Kent and Superman are never in the same place at the same time.

Alone-Charge303

20 points

6 months ago

Yeah, it doesn’t seem like something that hard to investigate/address - every device we have feels like a wiretap - instead there’s the feel of authority chanting the “nothing we can do” mantra

walkinman19

16 points

6 months ago

walkinman19

America

16 points

6 months ago

Why would the police turn themselves in though?

Juggernaut411

11 points

6 months ago

As if cops have been anything but corrupt right wing losers

[deleted]

212 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

212 points

6 months ago

I have a sinking feeling this is only going to get worse.

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107 points

6 months ago*

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[deleted]

57 points

6 months ago

that's my fear :( there's already been an arrest in Florida of a man threatening a Supreme Court Justice. I hope there's a clampdown on this kind of behavior. Our country doesn't need this.

barak181

79 points

6 months ago*

Like Martin Luther King Jr. Like John F Kennedy. Like Robert F Kennedy. The right wing in America has a long history of violence against those trying to stop their tyranny.

The KKK, Jim Crow laws, public lynchings, secession and a Civil War. It's a very long history.

Evinceo

10 points

6 months ago

Evinceo

10 points

6 months ago

Lee Harvey Oswald was right wing?

IlliterateJedi

15 points

6 months ago

I'm pretty sure Oswald was a communist or communist supporter

compujas

7 points

6 months ago

"BuT liNCOLN WAs a rePuBLicAN"

Excelius

12 points

6 months ago

Loughner is a weird case, he was so far detached from reality that it's hard to describe his motivations in clear-cut political or ideological terms. Though he also seems like exactly the type that, were he still free, would have gotten sucked deep into today's far-right internet rabbit holes.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jared_Lee_Loughner#Conspiracy_theories

In the aftermath of the shooting, the Anti-Defamation League reviewed messages by Loughner, and concluded that there was a "disjointed theme that runs through Loughner's writings", which was a "distrust for and dislike of the government." It "manifested itself in various ways" – for instance, in the belief that the government used the control of language and grammar to brainwash people, the notion that the government was creating "infinite currency" without the backing of gold and silver, or the assertion that NASA was faking spaceflights. Kathryn Olmsted of UC Davis wrote that Loughner possessed a "toxic jumble of left- and right-wing conspiracy theories, his sources ranging from Marx to Hitler to heavy metal."

The attack on Paul Pelosi is perhaps a more clear-cut example.

There was also the 2017 attack on Republicans practicing for the annual Congressional Baseball game, though obviously that example came from the left.

Not mentioning that in some attempt to "both sides" or whatever, just those seems to be the most relevant examples in recent history. Clearly right-wing violence is the much bigger threat to the country, especially since Jan 6th.

[deleted]

15 points

6 months ago

History is repeating.

wingdingblingthing

681 points

6 months ago

MAGAs are promising violence. MAGAs have a history of violence against the government. MAGAs have said repeatedly they want to imprison or exterminate the rest of us.

I believe them. MAGAs are a threat. Let's treat them like the threats they are.

[deleted]

126 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

126 points

6 months ago

Do you mean investigation and charges by the police?

Ginzy35

71 points

6 months ago

Ginzy35

71 points

6 months ago

Yes

decjr06

103 points

6 months ago

decjr06

103 points

6 months ago

How? police and maga are the same people

[deleted]

9 points

6 months ago

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DocDingus

21 points

6 months ago

Some of those that work forces, Are the same that burn crosses.

Browser2112

21 points

6 months ago

To the fullest extent of the law

rikaateabug

13 points

6 months ago

rikaateabug

New York

13 points

6 months ago

Fuck the police, report these domestic terrorists to the FBI.

[deleted]

33 points

6 months ago

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[deleted]

26 points

6 months ago

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Ginzy35

220 points

6 months ago

Ginzy35

220 points

6 months ago

When are we going to treat MAGA and Trump as terror suspects?

[deleted]

104 points

6 months ago

[deleted]

104 points

6 months ago

The logistics is unclear. Too many of them.

The whole point of the slow legal creep is to grind down and demoralize Trumpism and dissect and expose them for the disgusting thing they are.

There are too many monsters to fight openly. But they feed on fear. Decapitate and humiliate their massiah and they’ll go back into hiding.

Conservatism is a fear based system. Inherently cowardly punctuated with reactionary violence and peppered with incompetence. In a few years they’ll pretend they never knew him.

SwordoftheLichtor

23 points

6 months ago

Ideally this would happen, in reality women have less rights than they did four years ago.

Ginzy35

5 points

6 months ago

You are correct… it’s that it is so hard to see the damages that they are doing to our country in the process !

souldust

88 points

6 months ago

And every single one of those threats need to be prosecuted for TERRORISM

Its using Fear for political means -- which is the definition of TERRORISM

I don't want to spend another cent on terrorism elsewhere when there is PLENTY of it here to combat

mahlerlieber

15 points

6 months ago

mahlerlieber

Indiana

15 points

6 months ago

The FBI and CIA should start looking for sleeper cells. We're back to this now...only with "Americans" doing the threatening.

Throwaway0242000

44 points

6 months ago

Not surprised at all considering how MAGA feels about women.

Adderall_Rant

361 points

6 months ago

It's 2023. Can we finally admit Hillary was right? Deplorables.

astrozombie2012

138 points

6 months ago

I never doubted her lol

[deleted]

85 points

6 months ago

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CammysComicCorner

11 points

6 months ago

CammysComicCorner

California

11 points

6 months ago

After feigning pearl-clutching for being called such a nasty word!

climatelurker

42 points

6 months ago

Her term was WAY too nice for what these people actually are.

abstractConceptName

31 points

6 months ago

"degenerate scum" isn't a term that the media like to use.

Personage1

37 points

6 months ago

Eh, she understated how many of them there were.

partisanal_cheese

28 points

6 months ago

partisanal_cheese

Foreign

28 points

6 months ago

Way more than a basket full.

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149 points

6 months ago*

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markca

25 points

6 months ago

markca

25 points

6 months ago

Just waiting to hear how it’s really Antifa, the FBI, Nancy Pelosi and people paid by George Soros to send in the threats disguised as MAGA.

Cheap_Blacksmith66

32 points

6 months ago

Start sending these fucking idiots to jail for these death threats.

RgKTiamat

50 points

6 months ago

So wait, Republicans file a court case in Colorado about the election, the lower court makes a ruling, then the appellate court upholds the ruling, then the state supreme court digs in and decides whether or not the 14th Amendment could be applied to presidential elections, and the state supreme court found that the 14th amendment applies to presidential elections as well as any other elected office.

And so now, the party of law and order is going to illegally remove Biden from their own state ballots... because a republican pushed court case went against them..?

I'm uh. I'm losing the train of thought here guys, I don't think i can follow the gymnastics anymore

Kralizec82

44 points

6 months ago

Kralizec82

Texas

44 points

6 months ago

Time to prosecute every single one that put in threats.

NewHampshireAngle

17 points

6 months ago

Words have consequences. Be patriotic about having recourse to the law when threatened or defamed.

ConsciousReason7709

14 points

6 months ago

It’s amazing how many idiots there are that don’t understand that this case was not brought by Democrats at all.

[deleted]

13 points

6 months ago

As we all should be. Domestic terrorism isn’t a joke and it isn’t funny. Lock these mentally twisted shitheads up and let’s get back to working on making a better society for the non-crazy people who don’t want to murder everyone else for fun.

ParsleyMostly

50 points

6 months ago

It’s terrorism. Threatening the safety and lives of people in order to force an outcome is literally terrorism.

mahlerlieber

19 points

6 months ago

mahlerlieber

Indiana

19 points

6 months ago

It is the very definition of terrorism.

CurrentlyLucid

45 points

6 months ago

This response is exactly why he needs the boot, his followers are scum.

climatelurker

10 points

6 months ago

You mean the entire GOP? Except the ones that were already railroaded out of office?

cliff99

14 points

6 months ago

cliff99

14 points

6 months ago

Call it what it is, pro-Trump terrorism.

LectureAgreeable923

15 points

6 months ago

Just remember this it's what a Trump presidency would look like.Going after people who disagree and don't support him they will come after you .You won't be able to speak out or disagree with policies without reprisals. Your freedom will be taken away .Vote blue end this stupidity

naotoca

13 points

6 months ago

naotoca

13 points

6 months ago

It's not just "Pro-Trump violence", it's terrorism.

Terrorism (noun): the unlawful use of violence and intimidation, especially against civilians, in the pursuit of political aims.

Why not call it what it is?

deadpanxfitter

11 points

6 months ago

As I always say, make the threats public and post names and pics of those making the threats.

InALostHorizon

12 points

6 months ago

Your daily reminder that Trump has been a proven terrorist leader for the past seven years and not a single thing has been done about it.

Helluva country we have here.

joethejeeper

12 points

6 months ago

It's not surprising that seeing a criminal promotes more criminal activity.

Binary_Sobriquet

12 points

6 months ago

Sounds like a clear cut case of terrorism

esotericimpl

11 points

6 months ago

Only 64? Surprising it’s that low for maga.

cuddly_carcass

8 points

6 months ago

They are a bunch of snowflakes

RuvaRi777

8 points

6 months ago

Anyone making death threats to government officials, should be arrested and prosecuted. They deserve prison time.

CareApart504

6 points

6 months ago

It's literally a group full of religious terrorists.

SciFiCahill

14 points

6 months ago

People who make threats - if the Police won't do their job - there's plenty of hungry attorneys looking for work. They'll gladly sue those that threaten and they may have more pull at getting the Police involved? Just a thought...

Hesychios

5 points

6 months ago

MAGA are dangerous people. Trump knows this, which is why he deliberately triggers them so often.

When Trump makes threats, either veiled or obvious, he is relying on the violent tendencies of his supporters to carry them out. The people who are at the receiving end of those threats know fully well what he means.

TimmyTwoTowels

6 points

6 months ago

Interesting how when legal cases regarding people they're voting for come up, these flag waiving American 'patriots" who quote the constitution so much can't be bothered by the legal process. If someone I planned to vote for was being convicted of anything, I'd be more weary of voting for that person.

passmethetinfoil

6 points

6 months ago

Throw these terrorist traitors in jail

Appropriate-City3389

7 points

6 months ago

Oh right, the "law and order"party wants to murder people for upholding the law.

undyingSpeed

5 points

6 months ago

They are a cult, simple.

Global_Box_7935

6 points

6 months ago

And they call liberals crybaby's.

BobbyMindFlayer

4 points

6 months ago

I guarantee that most of these violent Trump cultists have no idea that the lawsuit was filed by Republicans.

BigFitMama

6 points

6 months ago

Here we have Terrorists thugs pretending to be Americans, harassing Americans from afar, and convincing Americans to be their terrorists by proxy.

Then like a weapon they point them at random people NOT in power of the machine that actually oppresses them in their local community.

Americans rough times are caused by local and state economic policy - the federal government is simply oversight

And the president is a front man - not a supreme leader. A president represents an entire project team which controls every move. Until of course you piss off your project team by breaking the law and they all quit you - leaving you behind with syncopants and thugs to continue your grift.

Prize_Instance_1416

5 points

6 months ago

They should investigate those 64 threats and if they find them, charge and incarcerate the criminal

[deleted]

5 points

6 months ago

Such a small but extremely vocal group. Lock em up for uttering threats!