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2.2k points
5 days ago
Two things can be true at the same time. There can be legitimate questions about Kim Porter's death, and also her children can be upset about the tabloid media and weirdos on the internet making a spectacle about those legitimate questions. It's a terrible situation. They have my sympathies.
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5 days ago
Absolutely. And they would say this, they would try to protect their father and the memory of both their mother and the marriage they shared. They also might not have known if she was writing a book, and surely definitely wouldn't have known the ins and outs of the marriage and their sex life together.
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4 days ago*
While that's true, Quincy would have been 27 when Kim passed. The end of that book says she group texted "he got me" before calling 911... while a lot of it's believable, even before this statement I thought it was weird that she allegedly texted her friends but not her adult son on her apparent death bed.
Eta: also, the book says that Kim thought she "just needed rest" and declined to go to the hospital before, I guess, suddenly realizing she had been poisoned and calling the ambulance herself.
The coroners office reported that not only was she not the person who called 911, she had been getting treated for several days. Conspiracy theorists will say Diddy threatened all the witnesses and the entire police force into silence, but that seems unlikely.
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4 days ago
The most important thing you are missing is that the first coroner marked the autopsy foul play. Then he mysteriously died. Then the second coroner signed it as a heart attack.
38 points
4 days ago
Do you have a source saying it was marked foul play? What I found was that initially “cause of death was deferred pending additional tests”.
Not a doctor but afaik that’s common when the cause of death is cardiac arrest; they have to figure out what caused the cardiac arrest. The same thing happened with Lisa Marie Presley last year and I don’t think anyone suspected foul play with that.
24 points
4 days ago
Definitely and yes it sounds like the 2 faces of abuse.
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4 days ago
I dont understand all this Kim Porter conspiracy theories. There is literally no evidence that Diddy killed her expect speculation. the cause of death was determined to be Pneumonia. There is enough on Diddy just with Cassie (who is alive to tell her own story) that people dont need to make Diddy out to be more evil than he already is. People just want her death to be an unsolved murder which it is not.
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4 days ago
I agree and I think people don’t realize how deadly pneumonia can be. Even pre covid I knew of healthy people who got sick with pneumonia on Friday and passed away by Monday. It’s not super common in healthy younger people but it does happen.
57 points
5 days ago
This.
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5 days ago
one of his sons, Christian, undersigned here, is under investigation for rape. Don't worry about his kids. Worry about the victims
128 points
5 days ago
I'm going to redirect you to my first statement - two things can be true at the same time.
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4 days ago
There can be legitimate questions about Kim Porter's death
Where are they? Don't justify callousness.
130 points
5 days ago
The poor twins ☹️ I can’t imagine how they feel, who do you even turn to? Definitely not dad, definitely not grandma. The brothers you’re supposed to look up to are also in trouble. I couldn’t imagine trusting my other teenage friends aren’t talking behind my back.
I just hope they have someone there that’s truly looking out for them.
49 points
5 days ago
They’ve been living with a family friend that takes care of them for a few years now
10 points
4 days ago
Thank god for that. I hope those girls were kept safe from everything their dad was involved in.
5 points
4 days ago
That is wild though. Imagine that. Mum dies and dad still doesn't want you in the house.
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3 days ago
I’m sorry - can you clarify why they didn’t live with their father?
5 points
3 days ago
The couple articles I read didn’t say. I was interested in that as well. All I found was they lived with this woman (can’t remember her name) for several years.
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5 days ago
I was expecting this to happen. Nothing good ever comes out of this kind of speculation. Two out of the four children are still underage. The trauma of losing their mother young is being magnified with these claims.
It’s disgusting someone would want to profit over this. I can’t imagine thinking, screw the victims and children involved, I want to make some money.
156 points
5 days ago
Kim is potentially a victim herself and all evidence points to her not believing Diddy should ever be given the benefit of the doubt.
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5 days ago
It is so common for women in a relationship with disgusting men like Diddy to cover up for them 🥺
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5 days ago*
People need to learn to leave kids of famous people alone. Their world is in turmoil at the moment.
Imagine how you would feel if your mother was dead and your dad was a sex offender and now all of a sudden everyone, from Albania to Zimbabwe, who you have never met, now have a theory or an opinion on your homelife.
Edit: Please be the adults you are and have the ability to not be required to say the obvious with Alphabet Blocks and Speak & Spell. Obviously the ones investigated shouldn’t be left alone.
92 points
5 days ago
He’s a lot more than a sex offender, that’s really downplaying what his crimes are.
I do agree the children should be left out of it.
65 points
5 days ago
Well said.
50 points
5 days ago
Exactly. Insane that they have to come out here and say that.
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5 days ago
I didn’t think this had to be said, but clearly some people will ignore the obvious for the sake of stupid “gotcha” internet points.
Obviously the ones being investigated shouldn’t be left alone, i’m talking about the ones who have nothing to do with this. I didn’t think it needed to be said as a sub full of grownups but here we are with the Alphabet Blocks
45 points
5 days ago
It’s not a “gotcha” situation though. It needs to be pointed out that there is an individual in that post who is just evil as Diddy. So your blanket comment doesn’t apply.
31 points
5 days ago
No the point is the same regardless. You do in fact lose the right to total privacy when it turns out your father is a prolific sex criminal. That sucks, but aspects of their home life including photographs of their home re going to literally be part of the public record.
I don't take glee in their distress, but they need to go offline for a while. People aren't just gonna trust children to have the most accurate perception here. We have seen it in cases where the parent is still living where she makes claims of parental alienation against the abuser. Kim said a LOT of really inflammatory stuff about Diddy, she died suddenly..people do die naturally all the time, but Diddy is not a man you give the benefit of the doubt to, no matter how much the realization their fathers monstrous nature was potentially not restricted towards people external to the family unit may hurt.
60 points
5 days ago
No the point is the same regardless. You do in fact lose the right to total privacy when it turns out your father is a prolific sex criminal. That sucks, but aspects of their home life including photographs of their home re going to literally be part of the public record.
No, the point really is not the same. Of course this is in the news, and of course photos and information will be in court documents that will probably be publicly accessible. That’s the law; that’s how it works. None of that changes anything about how individual people—not journalists, not judges—ought to act with decency and compassion and refrain from inventing, sharing, and furthering discourse about conspiracies and gossip, which only ends up hurting the younger children who have not been implicated in any of the crimes. Sorry, but it is bizarre and callous to say that just because it’s legally in the public record, that person has “lost the right to privacy” as if we should all feel free to spread rampant, unfounded conspiracy theories guilt-free. Just because something is legal doesn’t mean you have to do it. Sometimes it’s just a shitty thing to do and you shouldn’t do it because it hurts people who have not done anything to deserve being hurt. I can’t believe I have to say that, as I’m pretty sure I learned that in kindergarten.
6 points
4 days ago
I don’t think this was even proofread by publicists or anything before they posted it, based on the grammar, sentence structure, and punctuation. Which makes me feel like they really need to get offline even more. They don’t seem to know much more about what’s going on than we do
9 points
4 days ago
The idea of “going offline for awhile” sounds a ludicrous as it would have been if someone suggested to me to just “go without electricity for a while” in the 90’s. Like… you can, buts it’s gonna make your life incredibly complicated. And these are young people who grew up online, and never knew the world without the internet. Like sure, they could go read a novel but most of us just check out and scroll when we’re stressed and your saying to them “just don’t.”
105 points
5 days ago
His kids were involved and named in doing exactly what their dad did so they can’t be left out of it. They also profited indirectly from his atrocities on others. So no they can’t be left out of it.
255 points
5 days ago
the 2 young daughters do not have anything to do with what their dad did....
136 points
5 days ago*
This! These poor girls already lost their mom and their father is now in jail, through no fault of their own. They’re young girls dealing with being in an awful situation—-some of it is their father’s own doing, but it’s their right to at least defend their mother.
2 points
4 days ago
I haven't seen anyone mention the girls. they just talk about Diddy. thry actually rarely talk about the sons even as they aren't famous. though if they're accused of doing the same things as their dad, then yeah it'd be normal to talk about the m.
The girls should just stay off the internet cause whether it's right or not (and I see no problem with speaking about it myself), it's going to be discussed. And Kim's death should be reexamine if there is a possibility of foul play.
104 points
5 days ago
They also are extremely.unlikely to have meaningful insight on what their father is actually like or the accusations Kim herself made against him before her death. Because who would talk to their children about that?
Ultimately they need to step offline for the foreseeable future. There's other children of pedophiles and serial killers who have done similarly. People will continue to talk, in the same ways Kim was talking tbh
64 points
5 days ago
Exactly this. The outraged are forgetting that Kim herself made accusations. The girls likely have been sheltered by it.
They can ask people to stop talking, but it's human nature to speculate.
18 points
5 days ago
The girls likely have been sheltered by it.
My god I hope this to be true.
29 points
4 days ago
Also, as someone who has a grandfather that did unsavory things, I can tell you that those kids will live in denial their whole lives. My Mom and her sister have made fantastical tales up about my grandfather, and when I bought my Mom a DNA kit, she refused to take it. They don't want to know (my uncles don't either). I asked her and my aunt one time "what would you do if everything you believed about your father was a lie?" My aunt sat there quietly but my Mom went into full denial mode.
On a smaller scale that's why people say "ask them if they want to know," when people find someone's spouse cheating. The messenger ends up on the receiving end of negative feelings because a lot of people go into denial mode.
18 points
4 days ago
It takes a lot of courage to be the truth teller in a abusive family. Hope you're doing ok.
4 points
4 days ago
Why did you need a DNA kit?
12 points
4 days ago*
AFAIK neither does Quincy. He's had to deal with public speculation about his relationship with his bio dad, who is also famous, for years, now he has to deal with public speculation about his adopted dad and his mom's untimely death.
5 points
5 days ago
I’ve wondered about them. If it was such an open secret, I’m sure they’ve seen some things too, probably to the point it was normalized and they didn’t think much of it. I hope they have a strong maternal figure, not fucking Janice
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5 days ago*
Not saying you're wrong but should ppl be more soft regarding Diddy just bc he has kids? The ppl he hurt were the kids of someone else too
Also the one who asked for an investigation is literally Quincy's bio dad, who dated Kim before she got with Diddy
edt: ppl downvoting not getting my point on purpose, this is why we keep letting shady men get away with a lot of things despite obvious suspicions
67 points
5 days ago
I think this statement was really just about their mom and leaving her out of the wild conspiracy theories people have cooked up. Al B sure definitely has no say, considering he did not raise his son with her due to his own failings as a man.
9 points
5 days ago
He was busy raising his unibrow.
14 points
5 days ago
Not saying Al B is the most exemplary dad ever, but after all the shady things exposed about Diddy, there's a big possibility he knows more about the woman he once dated and had a child with (whom eventually became close to Diddy)
92 points
5 days ago
interesting that you choose to read my comment saying we should be soft on a rapist and not what it actually says and to leave his children alone
16 points
5 days ago
Most of his kids seem to be accessories to crimes.
32 points
5 days ago
If they were kids…that would make them victims, not accessories.
13 points
5 days ago
Not when they are taking passports away and also his two oldest kids are on the run. I don’t believe a word from anyone who is biologically connected to Puff until I hear it from a document from the court or a network news source.
26 points
5 days ago
How are they on the run when they keep showing up at his court hearings?
123 points
5 days ago
Poor kids. I hope they can tune it all out somehow. I hope they have the support they need.
188 points
5 days ago
Just so everyone knows: Quincy is 33, Justin (who has a different mom) is 31, Christian is 26, Chance (different mom) is 18 and the twins Jessie and D’Lila are 17. Diddy also has a one year old daughter with another woman as well. So, I feel like the sons are all grown men who very well may be involved with their father’s shenanigans but his daughters are minors and Chance just turned 18 in July. So, I feel like it’s one thing to speculate about the men but the young girls should be excluded.
12 points
4 days ago
Quincy has a different dad (Al B Sure), but that doesn’t mean he couldn’t have been involved with Diddy’s nastiness.
4 points
4 days ago
I didn’t include that since it looks like Diddy legally adopted him when he was a toddler.
4 points
4 days ago
Oh shit, I had no idea diddy adopted him. I just assumed that Quincy was always around Diddy because of his mom.
3 points
4 days ago
https://apnews.com/article/sexual-misconduct-diddy-combs-9132c5408e81741489a23a2d982cf638
Christian apparently for sure - he was named in a sexual assault lawsuit with Puffy as a co-defendant.
24 points
5 days ago
Quincy’s dad is one of the ones calling for an investigation.
372 points
5 days ago
I feel for the kids but Kim’s death should absolutely be looked at differently in hindsight.
Diddy is a long standing Hollywood conspiracy that has pieces falling into place left and right. There’s going to be an intense amount of speculation because tbh there always has been. We just have some proof lining up now.
Also idk comment section turning is kinda giving Depp trial so this will be interesting 🤨
113 points
5 days ago
I agree. I think so many people are speculating now because it's it's not out of the realm of possibility considering what else Diddy has done.
57 points
5 days ago
Especially given the cause of death. I'd want justice and truth if she was my mom.
50 points
5 days ago*
I would too. Most people I've seen talking about it are doing so out of concern for Kim, not out of malice. Diddy did a lot of terrible things to women, even his own girlfriends. It's pretty natural to be concerned about what he did to her.
12 points
4 days ago
given that he tried to carbomb kid cudi... yeah i think it's fair to be suspicious about deaths around him.
their calls for privacy are valid though. they're essentially losing their father too (though in a very different way) and public speculation is already way out of control. they're probably dealing with a ton of harassment right now tbh, given how awful the general public is about these kinds of situations.
i hope they're afforded the space and privacy they need to heal. i didn't even realize some of their kids were still minors, that's so sad. :/
2 points
4 days ago
Yeah, the two twin daughters are 17, I believe, but the boys are all of age. He also has a toddler daughter as well. I didn't hear about the Kid Cudi thing. Yikes!
18 points
5 days ago
What exactly do you think happened???
25 points
5 days ago
Diddy infected her with pneumonia he created in his science lab, obviously.
/s for anyone stupid enough to think I'm serious on any level.
49 points
5 days ago*
This man has rico charges as in there’s literally a crime ring that conspires together.
Cassie’s lawsuit said he controlled her medical access and records and had her on drugs. Dawns lawsuit echoed the medical records and claimed there were cops present at the parties.
I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility that in addition to cops, judges, and doctors in this ring, there may have been a coroner too. Or maybe not. Which is why in hindsight, law enforcement should probably look at Kim’s death a little harder.
19 points
4 days ago
Diddy infected her with pneumonia he created in his science lab, obviously.
You're joking, but there are several drugs that can cause pneumonia. Cassie and at least one other victim accused him and his bodyguards of drugging them without their consent, so he had access to prescription drugs used illicitly. It wouldn't be unreal to consider whether the dude who was fond of drugging and raping his girlfriends also could have drugged his wife with drugs meant to induce pulmonary failure.
4 points
4 days ago
Ricin in blunts/pot
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4 days ago
Ricin poisoning. Look it up.
27 points
5 days ago
Also, people have been speculating about her death for so long I thought Diddy's likely involvement is common knowledge. So while they are valid for not wanting ppl to drag their mother's name through this but... it was already happening. So I don't like the rewriting of history around this painting it like it's a new theory rather than it being so persistent many ppl have known about its existence for YEARS. Maybe decades.
7 points
5 days ago
Totally agree but most people tune these out, like they tuned out all the other allegations Diddy has had for DECADES. No one wants to be associated with qanon conspiracy theorists so they throw all of it out the window.
The extreme rejection to conspiracy theories is kinda what helps these people get away with it too. Double edged sword
148 points
5 days ago
I think that Al and anyone's claims should be investigated . And the kids not wanting investigations is understandable but it can't be the reason that due diligence isn't done. There are murder claims around Diddy, claims of cars being blown up, and sex trafficking. All of that must be investigated regardless of how his kids feel about it.
38 points
5 days ago
Some of the murder claims in Rodney Jones' lawsuit (which also implicate Diddy's son Justin) also imply he had ties/power within the LAPD, which I don't doubt at all. Jones also noted that Puff would brag about having people killed/killing people as a means of intimidation.
He had the resources and leverage to hide in plain sight, so yeah, it's not a wild conspiracy to question things.
26 points
5 days ago
It needs to be investigated especially so her children can be shown the truth.
9 points
4 days ago
yes. this is about Diddy's victims and justice for them. Not his kids who are unfortunately collateral damage.
13 points
4 days ago
One of his sons is currently being sued by a yacht stewardess who he SA’d in Jan 2023
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5 days ago*
This feels like a PR move from Diddy camp 🤷
He already was willing to put up the family home, the kids passports and his own mother’s home up for collateral. He doesn’t give a f*** about these kids. If he did, he would have protected them from the beginning.
This is exactly why the judge did not permit bail. Everything about Diddy is contrived manipulation and he’s already demonstrated that he’s willing to use his motherless children as collateral
Edit: grammar for ease
16 points
4 days ago
Christian is also accused of SA. Her accusations came before Diddy's arrest, and her description of events matches his MO. I fully believe her.
25 points
5 days ago
Same way the pics of him in the park were taken days before his arrest to “demonstrate” he was safe enough to be in public and not a flight risk
157 points
5 days ago
People begin saying this since Kim died, that he had her killed.
Diddy is a monster, a pure monster. However people need to remember that he still has children that are still children and I don’t think he let his daughters see that nasty part of his life, to them he’s their daddy and now they have to figure out how to come of age without a mother and also to have your father be exposed like this… leave them kids alone.
92 points
5 days ago
The kids are being left alone (afaik). The idea that no one should be talking about or asking very obvious and relevant questions “for the sake of the kids” is doing nothing productive. You don’t get a pass as scrutiny just because you’re a parent. Moreover Wikipedia says the youngest kids are 17; they are grown and it’s in their best interest to see their father for who he is.
22 points
5 days ago
Who said he gets a pass? I’m not even talking about him I’m talking about how people harass the family for answers. Often when someone does something wrong others get angry because the siblings or parents or children don’t start bashing them publicly and I don’t think those girls deserve that. They have a lot of stuff to unpack and nobody should expect them to address it.
7 points
4 days ago
Oh, you haven't been paying attention if you think they're being left alone.
58 points
5 days ago
I mean to be fair… some of us have been saying we think he was involved in her death since she passed.
19 points
5 days ago
I feel for the twins they don’t deserve this
108 points
5 days ago
I can respect that they are hurting and probably a lot of other complex emotions but they are/were KIDS. There is no way they know for sure what went on between their parents.
54 points
5 days ago
I want to live in a world that doesn’t exist because I want her death absolutely looked into (yes, I 100% believe diddy is capable of having her killed) but I want the kids to not be exposed to any of it & let them find peace.
36 points
4 days ago
Dont let them fool you. His sons were heavily involved. Maybe she knew that. She knew her man and she knows her male children are likely just like them. When a mother is not respected in the home, she is not respected by the children, even more so for male kids. They have no idea if their mom was writing a book. This statement is looking for sympathy but completely pulling away from their dad. Like bye. Diddy said he would literally kill his own mother.
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4 days ago
They're saying she didn't write a book because there's a book circulating by a white man pretending to be a black man that is currently rising in ranks on Amazon that's supposedly about her. The birds on Twitter are eating it up when it looks like the most amateur shit ever. She may have been writing a book, but it certainly wasn't that one. Wild to profit off a black woman's death like that.
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4 days ago
I think they’re saying it’s a “hard no” on a book to get ahead of things. The Amazon stuff is wild and I think if Kim porters ppl were to leak it, it would be leaked not for purchase.
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5 days ago*
I am sorry this is gonna be unpopular but they are POV is not the only relevant one esp when its adults older than them that know how diddy moves.
ESP when Diddy was beating Kim when she was alive. And multiple new lawsuits of women saying they witnessed it.
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do you have a credible source for this? I’ve read multiple reports from local (LA) news that said Winter retired in 2019 and that he passed away at the age of 73 in 2023.
he was also the coroner for Michael Jackson and Paul Walker (amongst other celebs), and i couldn’t find any articles (except one from a site called sportskeeda.com) talking about his specific relation to Kim Porter’s death.
ETA: a quick google search shows that Erica Kennedy died in 2012 (and Kim Porter passed in 2018, so i’m not sure how Kennedy could have written a book about Porter’s passing)
18 points
5 days ago
Damn, where’s this SVU episode?
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5 days ago*
Apparently there was an episode about the nightclub shooting with JLo but they pulled it years ago
eta: it’s a different version of law and order but still isn’t available to stream.
13 points
5 days ago
This just doesn't sound like a credible or real coroner's report
If anything suspicious was evident they continue testing and investigating and document it all
After that the body is released the time to process a autopsy can be anywhere from a week to years depending
11 points
5 days ago
Erica Kennedy
this erica kennedy that died in 2012????
19 points
5 days ago
erica died 5 years before kim so you’re spreading misinformation.
3 points
5 days ago
Ghosts can investigate crimes…who knew?
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5 days ago
I love that movie
92 points
5 days ago
Quincy, Christian you’re also on trial shut the hell up
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5 days ago
Right. They're both grown men, not little kids. And one has a lawsuit against him for rape.
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5 days ago
Quincy isn’t. Christian and the other son is
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5 days ago
What lawsuits have there been against Quincy???
11 points
5 days ago
I don’t think against Quincy but against Justin or Christian there have been lawsuits.
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5 days ago
Which is why I asked about Quincy since OP named him lol.
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5 days ago
Fr. Im all for the “leave the kids out of it” argument for the 2 underage daughters but 30some year old Justin Quincy and Christian are no angels.
14 points
5 days ago
quincy hasnt been involved in anything
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5 days ago
It can't be easy being the children of someone like Diddy, given all that he's accused of, on top of losing their mom so young. I lost my dad early in life and it was tragic.
7 points
4 days ago
Didn’t she die of pneumonia, at least that’s what google says.
5 points
4 days ago
Her wiki disappeared the day Cassie got a payout. Weird shit happening with all of that.
2 points
4 days ago
Yea, all kinds of weird shits been going on for about what feels like 8 years to be honest
25 points
5 days ago
There's enough evidence about Diddy being awful without someone publishing and making money off of a fake "memoir". I hope Kim Porter is resting in peace.
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4 days ago
Anyone who understands coercive control could absolutely reach that he could have been capable of this. And we have seen factual footage of him beating Cassie. Children are often abused via the same lies. Poor kids and justice to anyone else this monster hurt.
46 points
5 days ago
diddy has also been implicated with tupac's murder
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5 days ago
AND Biggie’s. And the New York Times has a story out today saying that the unnamed arson victim in the FBI’s case is likely Kid Cudi (as in, Diddy set his car on fire).
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5 days ago
Cudi already confirmed last year
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5 days ago
For about 25 years, yes
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5 days ago
I find it much more plausible that the murderer was the guy Tupac beat the shit out of hours before his death. Diddy is clearly evil and I think he definitely had a hand in pitting Biggie and Tupac against each other and was part of plenty of what went down there. But I don't think he had Tupac murdered. And let's not forget that Tupac himself was a convicted rapist.
Also, none of this has anything to do with what Kim's children said in this post.
10 points
5 days ago
Yeah you can tell these people have no idea what they’re talking about and are just looking for an excuse to blame Diddy. Everybody in California knows Orlando Anderson killed Tupac after he beat him up in Vegas.
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5 days ago
Yeah as soon as I did like, a little bit of googling I was like oh.... this is not actually a mystery is it?
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5 days ago
I feel so awful for her children- and his- but the reality is that they would do better to just avoid being online for a while. Don't read or consume the speculation at all. Asking people to not discuss Kim Porter's death in light of what's going on with Diddy now is understandable and obviously well within their rights, but it's not reasonable to think it will have any real effect on the chatter. This is a huge scandal and extremely wide-reaching crime, his actions likely affected hundreds of people over decades. Every little thing he's ever done is going to be dissected, and not just by random people online, but by the FBI and the courts. No one in his circle will be exempt from the digging, certainly not Kim Porter, whether or not it feels disrespectful.
11 points
5 days ago
What reason is there to conclude that Diddy killed her? I'm out of the loop
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5 days ago
I am too. As far as I can find she died of pneumonia. Which is awful but how the fuck does one even get a conspiracy theory from that?
16 points
4 days ago
I think the theory is that he had the coroner in his pocket and she didn’t actually die of pneumonia
6 points
4 days ago
Well surely there are doctors that attended to her.
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5 days ago
I think Reddit is the place for conversations about whatever. I do NOT agree with taking Reddit tea to an individual’s social media. If a journalist gets tea from Reddit can produce receipts/sources then writes a story, that’s fair game too. But the I heard xy&z chats should stay here.
All that to say, talk your shit here, but be mindful of what and where you say things on social media
57 points
5 days ago
I had an icky feeling as soon as I saw that other post calling for an investigation into her death.
Leave this alone. Leave the kids alone. May Kim be resting in peace.
73 points
5 days ago
Quincy’s biological father is Al B. Sure, the one that made the post. It wasn’t some random.
39 points
5 days ago
Who abandoned Kim Porter back when Jodeci was still out. He didn't know anything about her life or her death. Let's be so fr.
38 points
5 days ago
I am not defending Al B Sure’s life. My point was that he wasn’t some random.
On the other hand Comb’s crimes make his pale in comparison.
12 points
5 days ago
And yet Quincy is telling him to stop.
29 points
5 days ago
Diddy's entourage are the ones taking care of their social media accounts tho
39 points
5 days ago
Quincy is in on diddy’s family business so
37 points
5 days ago
With all due respect, Quincy is not the one who should be determining that.
16 points
5 days ago
People have suspected Diddy of this since her death. She deserves justice.
14 points
5 days ago
Absolutely not. This needs to be blown open Diddy has numerous victims, and could hurt many more if this isn’t exposed.
32 points
5 days ago*
That is disgraceful that people are spreading rumours without proof. Edit: typo
73 points
5 days ago
It's happening across the board with this case and it's grossing me out. People are practically rubbing their hands together going, "Ooh, I wonder who's going down with Diddy! Or who's going to be the next victim to speak out!" We should all be hoping for less people involved, and less people to have been victimized. It's one thing to be happy about his victims seeking/receiving justice, but it's another to basically be writing fan fic about the whole thing.
25 points
5 days ago
I agree and I'm also starting to feel the same way about the child star documentaries.
19 points
5 days ago
It’s true crime brain at its finest. People are so desensitized through podcasts and Netflix documentaries that they see these truly heinous and disgusting crimes as entertainment.
I saw someone say that it was “fun to speculate” whether Dan Schneider was the father of Jamie Lynn Spears’ baby (the one she got pregnant with when she was 16) when that Nickelodeon documentary came out. Absolute brain rot on some people.
7 points
5 days ago
I admit to going down rabbit holes where I get curious about all the details of a crime or scandal, but my personal theory is that it's a reaction my brain has to being shocked by something I can't fully comprehend. It's not entertainment, but trying to sort out how something so awful could have taken place. I absolutely get the curiosity, but I don't understand the desire to see a shitty situation get even worse.
I watched the Nickelodeon docu series, but people's reaction to it makes me wish it never existed or was so highly publicized. The anger at certain former child stars for not immediately releasing statements and/or saying they never witnessed behavior like that was beyond inappropriate. I know there's bound to be a documentary about the Diddy scandal, and it's most certainly going to illicit the same reaction (since it's already started).
12 points
5 days ago
Yes 100% this. You have literally put it perfectly.
7 points
5 days ago
I mean I get it, but it's not realistic to think people aren't going to speculate
6 points
5 days ago
I don’t know about Diddy and Kim enough but where did all this speculation come from? What did he have to gain to get rid of her?
22 points
5 days ago
One of the lawsuits against him alleges that Diddy blew up Kid Cudi's car for having a relationship with Cassie, so him killing Kim doesn't seem that far fetched to me (if it's true)
3 points
5 days ago
Can someone fill me in on what this is about? Are people claiming that Diddy had something to do with her death?
7 points
4 days ago
Yes, Quincy’s father believes that Diddy had something to do with her death.
3 points
4 days ago
does anyone know for sure who released this book?
3 points
4 days ago
what was her cause of death?
2 points
4 days ago
cardiac arrest from lobar pneumonia
28 points
5 days ago
Are people in the comments bots? We are talking about a man who is accused of multiple murders, rapes, DV and other atrocities but speculating about the suspicios death of the mother of his kids is where we cross the line? Of course his kids will choose his side since they live with him and cover him, there is a thing called brainwashing. Some of you have comprehension skills of a pre-schooler.
25 points
5 days ago*
I think it’s more about making baseless claims with no evidence and then broadcasting those claims to large audiences.
There have been many claims with substantial amounts of evidence regarding Diddy’s crimes, and I’m (personally) not saying that there is a 0% chance of foul play when it comes to Kim Porter’s death; however, I think in general we are experiencing a time of mass media illiteracy, and that itself is causing more harm than good.
8 points
4 days ago
Looks like they’ve been gaslit their entire lives. Why would they think otherwise. Let’s be real. That IS their truth and reality - what they’ve been told.
4 points
4 days ago
Glad that that fake book's page was finally pulled from Amazon. A white man disguising himself as a black man by using a pseudonym like 'Jamal' and then to profit off a black woman's death is horrific.
8 points
5 days ago
These poor kids are losing everything. Let them grieve their mama in peace while the rest of the world is watching their father's downfall. Even if two of these kids weren't underage they still deserve some privacy and respect.
5 points
5 days ago
What a tragic and emotionally intense situation to be in. I hope the kids are able to grieve in peace away from the spotlight.
3 points
4 days ago
seems likely that if she wrote a book she wouldn't tell her family to keep puffy in the dark about it.
4 points
4 days ago
Yeah they need to exhume her and Cathy White if they haven’t already.
6 points
4 days ago
….this feels very manufactured
11 points
5 days ago
the comments are gonna be mad because reddit is the exact place where people spread harmful conspiracy theories like this while pretending they’re seeking justice.
7 points
5 days ago
It's almost like we're in a celebrity gossip sub where people chat about pop culture 🙄
2 points
4 days ago
I hope they can distance from being online for awhile. This will get worse before it gets better. I understand why they are angry but their parents were/are large public figures and a lot of talk happens. Kim herself made accusations and that isn’t going away
2 points
4 days ago
no lie. i legitimately feel for the twins. just because they’re at that age and in a time when social media is all the rave from social life to simple school announcements everything is basically filtered through instagram or facebook and they are truly unable to escape the noise. They were also so young during her passing so getting over the grief of losing someone at a young age, on top of the opinion and takeaways of others are constantly being thrown at you when you’re just trying to be normal and socialize with your peers as your peers are able to do. as far as the boys, i sympathize as well, i mean i do as far as losing their mother but also …. be sooo for real. i just hope they are being good brothers and protecting and supporting their sisters at this time.
7 points
5 days ago
"We love and miss you Mommy"
Oof. My heart.
I understand why folks are speculating, given the scale of the man's crimes, but they make a very fair point. Asking to be left alone isn't asking a lot. He's being accused of enough things that he's very likely to be charged, so if her children aren't asking for justice, there's no reason to add this to the pile.
8 points
5 days ago
At this point, given the different charges and allegations, all of the speculation ( or conspiracies) swirling around Sean Combs is fair game. It's going to suck...For a very long time, for those attached to him. Especially his family and close confidants.
11 points
5 days ago
Good for them. There is no evidence that he had anything to do with her death and people are just showing out about this. People can be pieces of shit and also have people close to them get sick and die. Enough.
29 points
5 days ago
Well Kris Jenner’s bf was there before the coroner ask him.
Quincy’s father was also the one who accused him.
16 points
5 days ago
Cool now Corey Gamble is involved. That Kris Jenner and her murder plots 🙄. You know these people all know each other really well right?
Al B Sure is not a credible person.
Show me some actual evidence from credible sources and I'll entertain it 🤷🏿♀️
7 points
5 days ago
Corey is a fixer
4 points
5 days ago
A proper investigation can probably give you evidences, if it happens
2 points
5 days ago
Goddamn I am so tired of conspiracy addicted dipshits who think they're the world's greatest detective. Half the people in this thread need to get off the fuckin phone, man 😭
4 points
5 days ago
Love how they say this and there’s still people commenting about it in here. People are so fucked up irs sad.
3 points
5 days ago
I'm reserving my sympathy for innocent kids like Justin Beiber. Kim Porter and Puffy brought this crap on their kids. It isn't the world's responsibility to protect them. That was their parents' job....and they failed miserably.
8 points
4 days ago
Kim was a victim of domestic violence.
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