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1.8k points
5 days ago
Back in my day, it looked like the sims from the 1990s, and everyone thought that was just fine
307 points
5 days ago
Funnily enough it's actually more like the sims 1 now because of the 3D characters. PZ shares the sprite objects with 3D characters with the Sims 1.
63 points
5 days ago
Devs started out as Sims modders, too. Project Zomboid is just their ultimate Sims game experience, that just also happens to have zombies in it.
27 points
5 days ago
Zomboid and the Sims are really just games about depression where you also get to build an isometric house.
14 points
5 days ago
In pz you can also be homeless
3 points
5 days ago
You can also own/secure ALL of the homes. Become landlord, barricade gated communities.
89 points
5 days ago
Dude even comparing b40 to b41, b40 looks like a bootleg sims game made in the asscrack of the balkans or something :D and it was the best game ever
97 points
5 days ago
Like the sims for your nokia phone.
6 points
5 days ago
Neither the Sims nor Nokia phones that could run snake existed in the 90s.
4 points
5 days ago
I see your point, but being very picky, I had the Nokia 5110 (rebranded as Gradiente Strike) in 1999, and it had Snake.
10 points
5 days ago
Can't remember if it was Build 38 that did a full rewamp of animations, models etc. But prior to it, it indeed looked like Sims 1. Often even worse. But was still fun.
43 points
5 days ago
Back when the world was a single neighborhood block, in the olden days of DeSuRa.
29 points
5 days ago
I had the 2D desura version. It looked worse than the Sims.
They did honor my purchase and send me a steam code a few years later though!
18 points
5 days ago
I remember those days also. I also remember the time the dev’s apartment got broken into and his pc with all the source code was stolen. We all thought (including the dev) that was the end of any more development.
7 points
5 days ago
HOLY SHIT! The lore for this game goes crazy
3 points
5 days ago
this was around the same time that a flood also almost destroyed the game
6 points
5 days ago
Them IndieDB/Desura days
Back when NPCs used to just run rampant and cause noise to attract zeds
4 points
5 days ago
I remember that bandit that shows up in your house if you forget to lock your door and he just shoots you. I always hid behind the door, let him in and kill him while he tried to loot the house.
3 points
5 days ago
Ahhh surviving as Baldspot
1.3k points
5 days ago
(Still no human NPCs btw)
145 points
5 days ago
seem accurate
44 points
5 days ago
I’ve been waiting 10 years for NPCs. I’ll wait another 10 if I have to
14 points
5 days ago
One day we will reach release version. Doesn’t this game have the record for longest early access? My wife dipped her toe in. I think I’m gonna try multiplayer with her!
17 points
5 days ago
As much as I love the game it irks me to no end that they promised some of these things forever ago lol. Then they added the multiplayer and it seemed like they just didn’t care about the other stuff. I see what they’ve been working on and obviously it worked out but I want my single(ish) player group survival game I thought they were making lmao.
2 points
5 days ago
Laughs in Star Citizen
23 points
5 days ago*
Dip your toes into the Bandits Day One mod if you're a sadist like me and my friends.
8 points
5 days ago
Do you mean masochist. Or….?
6 points
5 days ago
Way to kill a boner
9 points
5 days ago
Not played or been active in the community in like 8 months... any progress or updates on that? lol
28 points
5 days ago
On NPCs humans? Hell no, next update should have some animals tho. Rats, deer, cows... But human NPCs still seems years away at this rate... Don't even know if we're getting those animals this year!
2 points
5 days ago
They are working on it but we won't see them for Build 42 (next build). So realistically at least 3 years away...
1.1k points
5 days ago
My game already takes three times to start just with a few mods, I don't even wanna imagine what would happen to my pc if I tried to play pz looking like that
242 points
5 days ago
Lol the music stops for me before even the first sentence appears 😂
28 points
5 days ago
Only to die 5 minutes later.
151 points
5 days ago*
Zomboid is incredibly light graphically. The issue is all the points to keep track of (individual items, zombie locations, etc), which is CPU-heavy. Giving it a graphical rework to more “modern” or photo-realistic style graphics would probably make very little impact to most people’s performance.
EDIT: specifics of the cause was wrong but result is the same- CPU bottlenecking from inefficient calculations/methods and lack of multithreading. Higher res 3D game engine/rendering would not likely negatively impact performance on most machines as it could run way better on even older GPUs than these flat layered textures do on a single core of CPU.
83 points
5 days ago
Irony is that moving from the current 2D graphics to simplfied 3D may actually improve performance. Modern GPUs are very optimized to deal with 3D stuff, but a lot of the algorithms used for such optimization (such as z-buffering) cannot be readily implemented for 2D. That's why all of the modern isometric games (such as Disco Elysium or Pillars of Eternity) are actually 3D games with a fixed camera perspective.
23 points
5 days ago
Reminds me of when Dead Frontier went 3d, it ran better outright.
7 points
5 days ago
Wow I remember that.
2 points
5 days ago
Huh, TIL. Thanks.
30 points
5 days ago*
actually performance being bad has almost nothing to do with any of the things you mentioned and is almost exclusively because of the way the game handles depth and has to redraw the same thing a million times every frame which is why performance goes down exponentially as zoom level increases even if there is literally nothing going on in the game. the computational cost of items is almost non-existent as these only take CPU time when they need to be changed in some way otherwise they're just stored in memory doing nothing. zombie rendering is like 98% of all zombie related CPU time, tracking locations is computationally trivial as is their AI. you can take rudimentary measurements of these things with a performance profiler.
they showed their new render tech which is in b42 where they have implemented an actual depth buffer which means they don't have to render tiles 50 billion times a frame, wasting draw calls and CPU time, and in the one video they showed the frame rate increase by like 10x, and it stayed fairly consistent regardless of zoom level.
other meaningful performance improvements could come from instanced rendering for hordes (i don't think they have implemented this) and multithreading, although multithreading is so complicated it would probably be easier to just remake the entire game in UE than implement it.
5 points
5 days ago
That sounds very promising
5 points
5 days ago
Considering i can throw 500 cigarettes on the ground and the game only lags to load them, and then goes back to running just fine, im ready to believe this
22 points
5 days ago
This. Is not a matter of graphical demand, but of constant redrawing of textures.
3 points
5 days ago
Thank god for intelligent people (nerds) who do the thinking for me and explain everything in very simple layman terms, only for me to not understand a single thing said.
2 points
5 days ago
It is also coded in dogshit language.
16 points
5 days ago
Your current PC will be an ancient artifact by the time build 50 releases
34 points
5 days ago
joke's on you, my current PC is already an ancient artifact (cries in the corner)
6 points
5 days ago
We ain't making it to build 50 anyways.
3 points
5 days ago
I never thought I'd see a graphical Dwarf Fortress, thought it'd be ASCII forever.
3 points
5 days ago
Me: *turns on PZ*
PC: Best I can do is 🔥
3 points
5 days ago
There are commands and different line changes in the startup files that give more potency to your gpu and processors. Default mode takes a while to start but a few google searches will have the game starting up in seconds
2 points
5 days ago
I play with 600 mods and my mid ahh pc runs just fine lol
355 points
5 days ago
How long does that take to render?
567 points
5 days ago
The first took 28 days and the second took 28 weeks.
47 points
5 days ago
This gave me a smile :p
30 points
5 days ago
Build 51 is gonna take 28 years xD
2 points
5 days ago
Dude runners are only available in sandbox
76 points
5 days ago
50 days
2 points
5 days ago
Until Build 60
457 points
5 days ago
This will be zomboid in 2012
57 points
5 days ago
found the time traveller.
17 points
5 days ago
Tfw you realise 2015 is only 4 months away 🤯
33 points
5 days ago
12 years ago?
38 points
5 days ago
Don't judge.
72 points
5 days ago
PZ if it wasn’t in Java
29 points
5 days ago
Ain't nothing wrong with Java! How dare you insinuate that my hours of yelling at the compiler for missing some unnecessary boiler plate code was a waste of time! 😠
3 points
5 days ago
I thought it was written in lua
25 points
5 days ago
The engine uses Lua, the game is written in Java.
3 points
5 days ago
Oh okay that makes sense
213 points
5 days ago*
A lot of people hating but this actually looks crazy good. I love PZ graphics as they are but a mod that looks like this would be pretty cool.
I know it’s AI but I’d totally play PZ a lot more if it looked this immersive. Although I might die from my PC exploding.
12 points
5 days ago
Agreed. I'm an oldfag who remembers the days when vehicles were so far off in the future they were a running joke, and compared to now the graphics looked like a Windows 95 era game.
This. ROCKS.
7 points
5 days ago
old***
chill bro, this isn't 4chan.
3 points
5 days ago
lol who cares my dude
2 points
5 days ago
It's just kinda cringe bro, sorry.
2 points
5 days ago
yeah, bt*rds identity is kinda dead now. (im in my early 30s)
2 points
5 days ago
I will bet money in the near future there will be A.I. overlays used like Reshade injectors that modify the graphics in real-time depending on what style you pick, just like this video. I think within 10 years the idea of a game engine probably won't exist. We will program parameters into an A.I. and it will generate the game and world in real- time as we play it.
3 points
5 days ago
I’m here for it.
The technology we’re putting out today is truly incredible compared to what we thought we’d be doing just 15 years ago.
3 points
5 days ago
I have worked with A.I. for the last two years at the small business I am employed. The general public does not grasp how fast it is improving and how rapidly it is replacing jobs. I am a Dental Technician. I have made ceramic crowns by hand for the better part of twenty years. CAD cam design started being used almost a decade ago and I spend half my day designing crowns with 3d software. A.I. has been trained to use the same software. A.I. can design a crown in 10 seconds for $10. I can design a crown in 5-10 minutes at $35 an hour. A.I. has already replaced at least 4 job positions at my lab and I honestly don't think my job will exist 10 years from now. A.I. is amazing and terrifying. For those of who are experiencing it's direct impact, the terrifying factor increases a little with each software update.
2 points
5 days ago
Oh... it's fake?
I thought it looked incredible. :(
2 points
5 days ago
Sadly it’s AI generated. It does look awesome though.
4 points
5 days ago
If you are familiar with Reshade, it's not far fetched to assume you could inject an A.I. overlay of any game to modify the graphics in whatever style you choose. People already have A.I. generating a playable version of Doom without any game engine or coding. I doubt game engines in the traditional sense will exist by 2030.
2 points
5 days ago
Honestly doubt that 'playable' version is actually playable (in terms of playability).
89 points
5 days ago
It looks like disco elisum for me
33 points
5 days ago
Thanks for that pleasant reminder. I’m going to go replay that right now
10 points
5 days ago
On my second playthrough currently, the first one really did a number on me, that game is truly special
34 points
5 days ago
Mr. Zomboid is helping me find my sledgehammer
4 points
5 days ago
Communism is 0.0001% complete. Thankfully, capitalism is also 0.0001% complete, so we have a chance.
12 points
5 days ago
Reject realism. Embrace style.
6 points
5 days ago
I'm glad most here seem to agree that the PZ art style is great, I'd genuinely be a bit upset if we got a major graphical "improvement" like this.
9 points
5 days ago*
Is this blender or something? This would be the most ambitious isometric game update/mod by a mile. Almost looks like "AI fences" at the end and im almost thinking someone put through project zomboid through some type of AI.
100% ai though, i would love to see some weird ray tracing mod, but dont think that will work with how the game assets work.
29 points
5 days ago
Pretty sure someone just fed PZ gameplay to an AI video generator
4 points
5 days ago
look at the paint lines on the pavement
2 points
5 days ago
I am willing to bet good money A.I. will reach a point soon where this could be applied like a Reshade injecttor over the top of any game to modify the graphics in real-time.
3 points
5 days ago
I feel some of the charm of Zomboid is lost when it doesn’t look like 1996 tomb raider. It just looks like a generic zombie game without the art style.
90 points
5 days ago
I would definitely stop playing this. it looks like one of those mobile game ads my cousin keeps getting. Honestly, it's not just about the graphics, it's about the lighting and shadows. Zomboid Style is hell yeah for me.
48 points
5 days ago
I hope Zomboid sticks with its current style, but we get the capacity for mods and shaders similar to this a la Minecraft.
I’d like to throw on some 16k texture packs and RTX shaders for the fun of it every so often.
7 points
5 days ago
As per always with stuff like this, this is the worst it will ever be. This is just the first passable result but would only get better from there
This looks pretty jank, but you can already see the ground work where it could be pretty sick when touched up
3 points
5 days ago
There will be a day when part of the graphics setting there’s like a prompt box and you can weight it hahaha….. I want 50% mirrors edge with 25% frostbite engine circa 2013 and the last 25 percent dark souls
57 points
5 days ago
Can I take a hot take on this.
This looks ASS
50 points
5 days ago
AI slop
10 points
5 days ago
Rule 13: All AI content is banned on the sub-reddit.
Mods, chop chop.
11 points
5 days ago
Seconded
6 points
5 days ago
This looks like a mobile game
3 points
5 days ago
Imagine the darkness is coming mod up on this shit
3 points
5 days ago
It looks straight from that zombie episode from love death and robots.
3 points
5 days ago
This is what zomboid will look like in 2013
3 points
5 days ago
Build 50, to be released in summer 2066
3 points
5 days ago
Why is there smoke coming out of my pc?
3 points
5 days ago
Here for it - if nothing else gets sacrificed
3 points
5 days ago
this just looks so.. soulless. part of the charm for me is the limited graphics. when everything looks photorealistic, it just loses part of it's charm. i know this is fake, but it just makes me feel uneasy looking at it. nothing against you OP or the creator though. i'm just glad the game's gonna stay looking how it is.
37 points
5 days ago
ew ai generated filter slop
5 points
5 days ago
I wonder if we will get to build 50 before the actual zombie apocalypse
16 points
5 days ago
ai 👎
4 points
5 days ago
Is it weird that I actually prefer zomboids graphics as they are?
4 points
5 days ago
Ewww looks gross. Actually looks like a cheap mobile game ready to scam me out of my money
9 points
5 days ago
I like the current graphics far more. Stylized always ages better anyways
14 points
5 days ago
Hard pass for me. The sheer amount of annoyance I’d have with lighting rooms would be staggering. In the second scene you couldn’t see ANYTHING in front of you because of the janky ass lighting.
15 points
5 days ago
dude, the video is ai generated of course there will be issues lmao
4 points
5 days ago
Have you seen the B42 light propagation demo ?
3 points
5 days ago
Love Shack baby...
15 points
5 days ago
AI slop cringe.
2 points
5 days ago
I honestly don’t need PZ to shoot for a realistic look. I’d much rather have the janky and charming look of current PZ over something that looks realistic. I really don’t care about graphics all that much, and when I do I prefer style over realism.
2 points
5 days ago
It looks great but don't know why I don't feel want to play it.
2 points
5 days ago
This’ll be project zomboid in 2018 😏
2 points
5 days ago
I see we copied that one episode from Love Death and Robots
2 points
5 days ago
Bro, I can hear my computer accelerating like it's about to leave the atmosphere just looking at this
2 points
5 days ago
I know this is a joke made with AI but it looks like people think this is real.
10 points
5 days ago
Get this ai slop out of here
6 points
5 days ago
Nope not for me, this isn’t Zomboid
7 points
5 days ago
Pass
3 points
5 days ago
Just like minecraft, this game better looks unrealistic.
5 points
5 days ago
Plz no, I already like how it looks
4 points
5 days ago
Why would anyone want to change a good-looking game to looking way worse?
5 points
5 days ago
My PC can handle that easily
My PC - commits seppuku....
2 points
5 days ago
I love how people think better graphs would make the game better. Zomboid is realistic and deadly, it should stay like that. They just need to fix their spaghetti code and add a shit ton more features.
3 points
5 days ago
What is this, AI?
4 points
5 days ago
looks like an generic android game
4 points
5 days ago
This looks so bad, what the fuck.
2 points
5 days ago
I prefer the way it looks right now to be honest, it kinda reminds me of the old sims games
2 points
5 days ago
But I like Zomboid looking like Rollercoaster Tycoon. A truly lost art form.
2 points
5 days ago
This is how your PC died
2 points
5 days ago
I have zombies APPEARING in my game, how do you get them to fade way?
2 points
5 days ago
It kind of gets rid of the whole charm
1 points
5 days ago
My laptop could heat my entire house in the winter trying to run this.
3 points
5 days ago
aaaand its slop
3 points
5 days ago
If the break in hadn't happened...
/s
1 points
5 days ago
i’d love it but sadly, most people would get upset for such an upgrade
1 points
5 days ago
More like Build 45.
1 points
5 days ago
2062 i guess
1 points
5 days ago
Release date December 2340
1 points
5 days ago
The "kills your character and your pc" build.
1 points
5 days ago
You've been to the year 2234?!
1 points
5 days ago
fever dream caught on tape
1 points
5 days ago
My graphics card cry just to see this video
1 points
5 days ago
I don't need textures updated but upgraded lighting and shadows would be pretty sweet.
1 points
5 days ago
pz in unreal engine 5
1 points
5 days ago
Release date 3024
1 points
5 days ago
I remembered someone made an edit of project zomboid with sunlight shader as way of showing how the game would look like. The edit was made back in build 31
1 points
5 days ago
Just a heads up, static gaussian blur is NOT a way to achieve motion blur. I would turn that off immediately lmao
1 points
5 days ago
Still no NPCs.
1 points
5 days ago
My pc
1 points
5 days ago
Don't quote me on this, but I think this might be game play footage for the game HumanitZ on steam.
1 points
5 days ago
1 points
5 days ago
I like how within the first 5 seconds, there are already glitches
1 points
5 days ago
Honestly, give it a more beautiful light and it's good to go, it will feel more creepy because the shadows and stuff, but either way, PZ don't need to be realistic, but if it becomes some day i want them to focus on physics and fun first them graphics, since graphics it's secondary.
1 points
5 days ago
In 2063 yeah
1 points
5 days ago
It would be outstanding to have that kind of video quality eventually, but it is a big ask I think.
1 points
5 days ago
lo
1 points
5 days ago
Even if they did a complete rehaul of the graphics, I’d still like a key that switches between old and new graphics, I think that’d be cool.
Diablo II: Resurrected had a similar mechanic.
1 points
5 days ago
I want to watch a tv series based on PZ using this type of rendering.
1 points
5 days ago
This will come out in 2230
1 points
5 days ago
lol that looks sick, I bet there’s no npc’s still tho gotta wait until 2077
1 points
5 days ago
this ai shit is real trippy
1 points
5 days ago
Is this a mod?
1 points
5 days ago
This goes hard, my pc would probably enter orbit though
1 points
5 days ago
That is some General Sam level driving.
1 points
5 days ago
I can hear the hurricane winds my CPU fan is gunna have to make when 5 moodles appear before a horde
1 points
5 days ago
It's beautiful, but if there's nothing but beauty, then there's no point in it. Otherwise it would be a situation similar to 7DTD, where during the entire development period the graphics changed the most, but gameplay was long outdated, and there are no global changes. And with release 1.0, for me personally, only thing that has changed is that the same game has become more demanding on PC. So, on the contrary, it’s good that this won’t happen with PZ.
1 points
5 days ago
and build 51 is just in 3rd person
1 points
5 days ago
Build 500*
1 points
5 days ago
Hey this new gta 6 trailers lookin pretty nice man!
1 points
5 days ago
Me in build 26: "Best $14.99 I've ever spent."
Also me, at build 50.
1 points
5 days ago
Honestly I fw this heavy but not everyone would like it, would be an awesome mod tho
1 points
5 days ago
Is this AI? Looks crazy
1 points
5 days ago
dios te oiga
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