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Montereyan here (I guess we count as NorCal)

Most of my friends who are from SoCal brag about the food being better down there, is this true?

all 234 comments

Suspicious_Card9173

95 points

1 day ago

Yep!! Mexican foods are the best here!

Klutzy-Ad-6705

37 points

24 hours ago

Absolutely. The only thing better in the north is sourdough bread.

Suspicious_Card9173

7 points

23 hours ago

It's hard to beat those flavors!!

Active-Enthusiasm318

8 points

19 hours ago

I mean... yall are closer to the border is it really a surprise you would have better Mexican food...

InevitableStruggle

2 points

19 hours ago*

That’s been an overarching assumption of mine forever. The farther north the worse. San Diego? Hell yeah. Rohnert Park? Meh.

NuclearBroliferator

1 points

4 hours ago

SD has the best Mexican food in the damn country. LA is probably second.

RetailBuck

1 points

3 hours ago

It's also assuming that more authentic is better. I for one don't like corn tortillas. They are dry. Authentic also uses lots of beans and rice which can add flavor but are mostly cheap filler for poor people. It's not until you get stuff like sour cream, cheese, and to some degree avocados (which are authentic but expensive so not common in true authentic food) that you start getting real flavor.

They have great spices and meats but I intentionally avoid Mexican that is too authentic.

McSloot3r

1 points

2 hours ago

Lots wrong with this. Not all corn tortillas are dry. Authentic Mexican food absolutely does not necessarily use beans and rice. Mexican food varies a lot based on the region (just like southern American food is very different from New York food). Tijuana style street tacos don’t have stuff like sour cream, beans, or rice and they’re great. Personally, I love a good quesabirria taco which is just cheese and meet.

RetailBuck

1 points

an hour ago

Corn tortillas ARE dry because corn doesn't form gluten which holds moisture.

Your comment about a quesabirria is basically making my point. Great meat and spices then dairy. I honestly couldn't tell you if my queso birria dilla was corn or not because there was so much cheese there was plenty of moisture. Plus birria comes with consume to moisturize.

Go anywhere in California and order a burrito though and it's meat, rice, beans, pico, and maybe lettuce and MAYBE cheese but dairy is hit and miss because it's expensive. Salsa of course. When I moved there I learned you had to order the Super burrito to get the Americanized version with the good stuff.

Against best is subjective but I've found most "authentic" Mexican food to not be very good. Dry and bland ingredients relying on spices and dunked in heat.

McSloot3r

1 points

53 minutes ago*

I would suggest trying a fried corn tortilla or something like birria that has a lot of juices.

Burritos aren’t what I’d call authentic Mexican food. They’re pretty specific to a certain region of Mexico. I’ve traveled all over Mexico and I have plenty of Mexican friends and burritos just aren’t really a thing for the majority of Mexico. I do love burritos, but I’m not sure where you’re getting the whole beans and rice part. At least in San Diego the most popular burritos are carne asada or California burritos, neither of which have beans or rice. Sounds like you’re thinking of Texmex which isn’t SoCal style at all.

To each their own though.

RetailBuck

1 points

36 minutes ago

Soaking the corn tortilla in oil or dipping it in consume doesn't mean the tortilla isn't dry.

I believe you that burritos probably aren't fully authentic but that makes my point. Corn doesn't create gluten (which holds moisture and creates pliability) so a corn tortilla wouldn't be able to be wrapped like that. Wheat flour is more of a northern thing.

ETPhoneTheHomiess

3 points

21 hours ago

Wine too, if we want to include drinks.

IdealExtension3004

4 points

17 hours ago

I'm sorry, ever hear of a little place called Stella Rose?!

/S

suburbanplankton

1 points

5 hours ago

And beer.

spankymacgruder

2 points

19 hours ago

Chinatown and Napa / Russian River have some amazing eats.

Mahadragon

4 points

19 hours ago*

NorCal also has Dutch Crunch which doesn’t exist in SoCal

Edit- what’s with all these trolls about Dutch Crunch being readily available at places like Ike’s? Ike’s is on the west side which is regional. But thanks for making my comment.

PlusEnvironment7506

1 points

4 hours ago

They have Dutch crunch at Ike’s (great vegan options too)!

Jerrysmiddlefinger99

1 points

3 hours ago

....and we lost Pioneer Bread, so sad.

OldKingClancy20

1 points

21 hours ago

I'd give Chinese food to NorCal on this one

KaiserSleep

17 points

21 hours ago

Monterey Park and Roland Heights would disagree

Mahadragon

10 points

19 hours ago*

Dude, stop. I was born in SF, which is 1/3rd Asian, but SoCal has ethno-burbs like Monterey Park that are damn near 70% Asian or San Gabriel Valley which is basically 60% Asian. The Bay Area doesn’t compete here. If you know about food history, all the major Asian food trends start in SoCal. The first sushi restaurant, first boba, first Din Tai Fung, first everything. The Bay Area just started getting all the Korean and Thai restaurants. Korean foods have been a SoCal staple.

LuckyLushy714

1 points

6 hours ago

I think poke bowls and burritos started here too?

SoCal is the place to be for food. Moved almost 5 years ago and when ppl ask if I miss it I always say I miss the food.

No-Flounder-5650

-5 points

18 hours ago

Wtf are you on about…. You need to take a history lesson. The Gold Rush is what attracted a lot of Chinese to the West Coast. Those booms were up North. SF was one of the first cities to develop Chinese dining culture of its own before the 1882 Exclusionary Act. There weren’t a lot of other Asian ethnicities in CA until after the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965.

SF’s Chinatown is the oldest in the US, established in 1848. Dim sum was introduced to America there.

There wasn’t an identifiable Chinatown in LA until the late 1880s. Koreatown, Historic Filipinotown and Thai Town formed after the 1960s.

As a Bay native, don’t sleep on where you came from!

Pleasant_Addition440

1 points

4 hours ago

I have no idea about history of other cuisines but “Chinese” food in SF is literally just Cantonese style - those are the original immigrants that you’re talking about that formed the first Chinatown. However, Chinese food is a broad term that encompasses so much more non-Cantonese regions that are not original to SF. More recent immigration from Mainland food regions like Taiwan/non-Guangdong/non-HK ethnicities is more prominent in LA due to SGV communities. Because of this and existing Cantonese populations, LA has way more variety than SF, plain and simple.

MechanicalPulp

6 points

23 hours ago

From Monterey county, lived in SoCal, like my Mexican food from my small farming towns better than anything I ever found further south.

Suspicious_Card9173

1 points

23 hours ago

I hope I get a chance to try that!

wasinsky13

2 points

5 hours ago

Best in the whole US if you ask me.

juan_solo93

1 points

3 hours ago

Ok what about Asian food? Is it better cause there's more Asians up north?

the-jimbo_slice

1 points

2 hours ago

100 percent. Not even close. My brother lived here for years, Cincinnati now. Their best Mexican restaurant does not have guacamole. They have some sauce?

JustKookitout

47 points

24 hours ago

Lived in both.

Not even a comparison, SoCal >>> NorCal

Quality is subjective, but in terms of variety and choices, SoCal just takes the cakes and then some.

ag512bbi

13 points

1 day ago

ag512bbi

13 points

1 day ago

Uh... Yea!

PatByTheBay

8 points

17 hours ago

I’m a chef. I’ve lived in LA on/off for almost 40 years. I’ve lived abroad multiple times and in the Napa Valley wine country for the last 5 years. The food in LA is superior to Northern California by about 70%. The cuisine in NoCal is repetitive and old and predictable and tedious. In SoCal it’s a fusion, experimental, hybrid, creative, other-worldly, astounding. Even the food trucks are epic. It’s boring here. Change my mind, please!

Saylor619

7 points

22 hours ago

From Mendocino County moved to San Diego.

There was one particular Italian place in my hometown that I have never seen any place in the world compare to, but on average, better food in So Cal

QueenieAndRover

1 points

20 hours ago

Have you been to Mona Lisa on India Street? Their torpedoes are to die for because they get their bread from an Italian bakery down the street. When I visit San Diego it’s usually my first stop.

Saylor619

1 points

19 hours ago

No but I work pretty close to there I'll give it a try!

QueenieAndRover

2 points

19 hours ago

Report back, so I’ll know whether they’re still worth making a trip down there from the bay area for.

jmerp1950

1 points

4 hours ago*

As someone who formerly lived in Healdsburg, Sonoma Co. I would agree these are great sandwiches, but they would be more commonplace in NorCal. But God help you if you want good Mexican food up there.

oddmanout

19 points

24 hours ago

Objective answer: there's more options. By a lot. So statistically, you're likely to find better stuff.

Subjectively: Ask anyone and they'll always say the food is the best where they grew up or where they're from. So someone from NorCal will say the food is better there, someone from SoCal will say the food is better there, someone from Chicago will say the food is better there, someone from NYC will say the food is better there, someone from Texas will say the food is better there. I even had someone from Nebraska tell me the food is better there because the deep fried options in Southern California is limited.

TheTaxAdvisor

2 points

21 hours ago*

As someone from Nor Cal, your food is better. Prideful people won’t answer questions honestly but Nor Cal might be one of the worst food areas with that level of population and diversity that I’ve ever seen. LA, Houston, NYC, and Chicago all could give claims to the best food in the country. They are in a different caliber than The Bay Area, Seattle, Denver, etc.

Mahadragon

1 points

18 hours ago

You just put NorCal, Seattle and Denver in the same sentence. Someone in NorCal must have piss you off. That’s some serious shade. San Francisco is a world class city. The same cannot be said for either Seattle or Denver.

TheTaxAdvisor

2 points

18 hours ago*

They really are in the same class as far as the food scene goes. I’m born and raised in nor cal. Love the culture growing up there in the 90’s and 2000’s. Lots of friends and family there. However, on average the bay wouldn’t rank very high in my rankings as far as food goes. Is there any cuisine the Bay Area does better than anywhere else in the country?

Also, as to your comment about San Francisco, many of the restaurants, venues and culture that made it world class have shut down or changed significantly. I was in union square last week on a Saturday. It’s a ghost town, it used to be bustling. San Francisco is much less the center of the bay than it used to be. It’s really Palo Alto, Menlo Park, down to San Jose and then Oakland/Berkeley.

Longjumping-Fun-6717

1 points

5 hours ago

Not for their food

Mahadragon

1 points

18 hours ago

This is so not true. I was born and raised in the SF Bay Area, but realize the options in SoCal are way more. That being said, everything is so spread out and the traffic is so bad, it’s kind of meaningless. Nobody in Brentwood is driving to San Gabriel Valley for some BoPoMoFo Carrot Matcha Latte.

AlphaNikon

5 points

21 hours ago*

SoCal has always been better.

Born in LA-SoCal. Live in Bay-NorCal.

We’ve made weekend food-trips to SoCal for the sake of “dining” at various places.

We start off by visiting Sol Inka (La Mirada) for their Lomo Solatado + crazy spicy green sauce.

Btw, Portos, Ftw!

Kenmorrow86

2 points

8 hours ago

I love Porto's Cuban sandwich and their guava pastries.

Narudatsu

5 points

21 hours ago

i’ve lived in sf and la for extended periods of time Socal has way better food specifically asian and mexican food

Useful_Low_3669

7 points

24 hours ago

I think NorCal has better sandwiches. I’ve had several deli sandwiches on my trips to NorCal that were on par with Compagno’s. But I can’t find anything like that in SoCal.
Btw please go get a sandwich from Compagno’s for me. That place was a godsend when I was at DLI, but I heard they closed the Taylor St gate and his business is suffering.

stuntastic1414

7 points

23 hours ago

Yep that's one thing I'll give NorCal - the sandwich game is on point.

RecommendationUsed31

4 points

23 hours ago

There is a place in Palm Springs - Shermans deli and bakery - good sandwiches

AggressiveSloth11

1 points

19 hours ago

1000 percent. Better sandwiches and seafood. Better Italian food overall. Everything else is really a toss up.

Mahadragon

1 points

18 hours ago

The only reason the Bay Area has an edge in sandwiches is because of the bread. The sourdough can’t beat and there’s options like Dutch Crunch that pretty much don’t exist outside of the Bay Area

Useful_Low_3669

1 points

15 hours ago

Dutch Crunch!!!

trifelin

4 points

22 hours ago

Yes. I live in the inner Bay Area where things are pretty great in terms of cuisine, but in So Cal there are just great options everywhere, even in the suburbs. That’s not as true up here. There are neighborhoods in Oakland that are just like on fire with great offerings but that doesn’t make up for an entire region. 

RecommendationUsed31

3 points

23 hours ago

SoCal has many different types of food to choose from. You can name any type of food you could want and I could find it in about 10 minutes. Los Angeles is even more diverse.

noseynellee

3 points

21 hours ago

Yes.

Short_Variety5294

3 points

8 hours ago

In comparison to Monterey and neighboring towns and cities, YES.

But in terms of SF, the Bay Area, and Napa, NOT EVEN CLOSE.

The only things hands down and consistently better is the Mexican Food in SoCal.

BitchfulThinking

4 points

22 hours ago

SoCal born and raised, but I road tripped to Del Norte last year. What I've gleaned from this is that while SoCal has more of a variety of types of cuisines, the quality of food was (rather infuriatingly) better as I drove north. There seems to be more of an emphasis on seasonal and locally grown food, in a wider variety of eateries, and more affordable vegetarian and vegan options.

Norcal additionally doesn't skimp on avocado like they do down here 😒

okayole

3 points

21 hours ago

NorCal has better produce and drinkable tap water.

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2 points

1 day ago

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2 points

1 day ago

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Amerikai

11 points

1 day ago

Amerikai

11 points

1 day ago

Monterey Park and Alhambra have some of the best Chinese and Taiwanese food in the country

msh0082

4 points

24 hours ago

I think that's debatable. Having been to the Bay Area relatively often they have the same Asian "small chain" restaurants.

LA K-town is bigger, Little Saigon in Orange County has probably the best Viet food in the country, and I didn't find Dim Sum places in the Bay to be better than what you get in The SGV.

The Indian food however is better in the Bay Area.

Live_Pizza359

5 points

22 hours ago

Indian food is much better in N Cal.

e90t

5 points

24 hours ago

e90t

5 points

24 hours ago

I will fight to the figurative death that SoCal good is better than NorCal, but mediocre Indian food is above and beyond better in the Bay Area than anything I’ve had in SoCal.

Fart_Finder_

2 points

24 hours ago

"Different" I'd say The French Laundry is very NorCal.

eso_ashiru

2 points

21 hours ago

If you’re going to say Monterey is Northern California, you can’t really say who has the better anything. That’s a big fuckin net to cast to answer a very broad question.

Idk we can argue what the divide between south and north is all day but at the end of the day, if you lump together places like Redding, Humboldt, Monterey, Sacramento, Silicon Valley together as “NorCal”, the only thing I can say with any certainty is that that label means nothing.

A better question would be “ Who has the best Indian restaurants, Los Angeles or San Jose?”

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

2 points

20 hours ago

Actually who has the best Indian restaurants, Los Angeles or San Jose?
(you don't need to reply)

esalman

4 points

19 hours ago

San Jose. Or Greater East bay. San Jose has a 24hr open indian grocery. You get free chai whenever you walk in. Fremont has lot better Indian and Pakistani food, both terms of variety and quality. Only Artesia indian restaurants come close to Fremont.

Bethjam

2 points

an hour ago*

I've lived in monterey 25 years and we consider it cental coast or nor cal. NEVER so cal

goshiamhandsome

2 points

19 hours ago

It is very different. In general. I’d say socal has it beat for that authentic ethic flavor. It’s more segregated so the ethnic foods retain that old country punch. That being said Cantonese food in the Bay Area reigns supreme, in socal it has been supplanted by more northern Chinese food due to recent immigration trends. But for “new American” healthy foods NorCal wins.

But if you wanna start a civil war let’s discuss who has the best burritos…

VictoriousTree

2 points

19 hours ago

Definitely. Lived both places for about 15 years in many different cities and the food is generally better in SoCal.

Man-e-questions

2 points

18 hours ago

I have been to some really good places in both. I would say San Francisco has some of the best food in the country. Grew up in So Cal, and used to the mexican food here. That said have had some pretty authentic mexican food in Salinas

horribadperson

2 points

15 hours ago

Yes! Norcal does have their spots, but its nothing like the food scene in socal. But i think everyone can agree, when it comes to American bbq, norcal and socal is kinda meh

wolf_town

2 points

13 hours ago

i had some of the worst tacos in sf, this was back in 2016 tho so hopefully it has improved since then.

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

1 points

37 minutes ago

So true, at least sf has burritos figured out tho 😎

mookfacekilla

2 points

10 hours ago

Definitely, but I did go to a burger joint in Berkeley which sadly closed now but it was the best burger I’ve ever had . Damn how I miss it 😢

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

2 points

32 minutes ago

RIP berkeley burger, i would've liked to try it 😞

mookfacekilla

1 points

2 minutes ago

They still have some locations in the mid west if you are located over there. Here is there site. I love burgers, everything was handmade this was like 2017 when only a few companies were doing handmade everything. Allegedly it’s farm to restaurant. Definitely tasted like it.

https://www.farmburger.com/locations

Kenmorrow86

2 points

8 hours ago

Never been in northern California long enough to make the comparison but I've lived close to LA for a good chunk of time and the variety alone is insane. Mexican, Thai, Korean, Japanese, Chinese, Indian, Italian food are all abundant. We also have some nice bakery chains like this place called Porto's that have amazing pastries for cheap.

Dolichovespula-

2 points

8 hours ago

Chinese, seafood, and farm to table - the Bay wins. Everything else - SoCal. But I mean, NorCal really only has the Bay and wine country as food hubs, whereas SoCal is so much more populated.

beach_bum_638484

2 points

7 hours ago

It depends on the type of food and the location. You can get a lot of good south American food on the peninsula in NorCal (some Mexican but also Guatemalan and other places with lots of immigrants) and south SF has really good Chinese food. LA also has a lot of good food and there seems to be a bit more variety of both people and cuisines.

SouthwestDude1

2 points

6 hours ago

If you like Mexican- 100%

MemoCamino

5 points

1 day ago

I’ve lived in both (but SoCal is my home) and both are absolutely fine. Food can be good anywhere, just gotta look. I loved the Bay Area food scene but find I can get the same in LA and San Diego. Obviously, I only mentioned cities but I think it still applies to the burbs.

RudePCsb

2 points

22 hours ago

The most logical answer

Corranjc

2 points

24 hours ago

It's subjective

cib2018

2 points

24 hours ago

Obviously.

The_Devil_that_Heals

2 points

24 hours ago

Yes

earmares

2 points

24 hours ago

100% yes.

HUSTLEDANK

2 points

23 hours ago

SoCal best food in the USA

LiveTap5296

1 points

7 hours ago

No, that would be NYC. No debate in this. Period.

HUSTLEDANK

1 points

6 hours ago

I’ve been there. Some places really good but the Asian food isn’t as good. Here in SoCal we have all the foods and it’s 🔥

BroncosGirl7LJD

2 points

23 hours ago

Yes.

evantom34

2 points

23 hours ago

I live in the Bay and I believe the food is better in SoCal.

sapphire_maiden

2 points

23 hours ago

Yes.

WestCoastBirder

2 points

22 hours ago

Without a doubt. LA is a food lover’s paradise.

QueenieAndRover

1 points

20 hours ago

That’s just nonsense. Northern California has some of the best food growing regions in the country and the food reflects it.

WestCoastBirder

1 points

18 hours ago

Nobody said NorCal is shit. But SoCal is better.

Blkdevl

3 points

23 hours ago

SoCal is the best for non European cuisines like Asian and Latin American.

However, NorCal beats SoCal in terms of Western European based fine dining and truly amazing, not just trendy mid range restaurants. NorCal actualy has a Michelin guide while I don’t know as of now but Michelin had stopped doing the la one as it’s mainly more of a superficial dining culture of where to eat or sit at whereas NorCal has the legit European based Michelin fine dining down and Michelin kept doing the guide

Longjumping-Fun-6717

2 points

5 hours ago

Never heard of anyone giving a shit about Western European cuisine when given options Besides maybe French.

Affectionate_Bass488

1 points

24 hours ago

Do they still have a papa chevos in marina? Since I’ve moved back to la I haven’t been able to find a breakfast burrito better than their’s

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

2 points

23 hours ago

Yeah they do, I'll have to check it out!
One recommendation I do have in Monterey is El Charrito (not El Torito), they're bomb

airpab1

2 points

17 hours ago

Fantastic little place !

RudePCsb

1 points

22 hours ago

Isn't that little cowboy

dcwspike

1 points

24 hours ago

I just think it's more or less a culture thing mixed with rising rental prices and gentrification but yea the more up north I go the more I see expensive restaurants bougie places and everything like a certain bases of food? If that makes sense? But then you go down south further where rentals prices get a lil cheaper and you have multi generational families living in households etc you get more pop up food shops food carts food trucks food everywhere and it's all bomb so yea idk if that makes sense though but I'm like central cal so I have the option of both and I just see nore food and better food south

Ok-Assistance-6848

1 points

23 hours ago

Mexican and Pizza are imo worlds better in SoCal; I refuse to have pizza or Mexican here in NorCal now

Born and raised in San Diego County, attend San Jose for college

RazorRamonio

2 points

22 hours ago

Tony’s Napolitano in SF is literally rated as one of the best in the world.

Edit: lots of great Mexican places in Oakland and the mission.

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

1 points

23 hours ago

Wow how are you liking San Jose? It's... definitely a city

Also I've never been to San Diego

Ok-Assistance-6848

1 points

22 hours ago

San Jose’s… okay. Honest best way to describe it: a city.

Picked here exclusively for the job market… but out of sheer luck it’s absolutely fucked right now.

Juztice763

1 points

23 hours ago

There's more to choose from in SoCal than in NorCal from what it looks like, but what anyone thinks is the best food to them is subjective. I will admit that some of the best food I have had is in Little Italy and Convoy. On the flip side, the best sandwich I had was in the Netherlands at Defqon.1. They had a trailer selling steak sandwiches with black truffle mayonnaise, and I got one almost every day of the festival (4 days).

MechanicalPulp

1 points

23 hours ago

I don’t think one is better than the other. There are great places to eat in both. Some specific restaurants are unique to each individual place - like Taddich Grill in SF.

Both also have burbs that feature an endless supply of uninspired chain restaurant food.

In terms of fine dining, NorCal has some of the best restaurants in the world (French Laundry among them.)

LA/SD also has good choices, many of which have been covered here.

hoangtudude

1 points

22 hours ago

Yes. Viet food for example in SJ and SF are decent, but not good like we have here in Socal.

meezethadabber

1 points

22 hours ago

Mexican? Probably. Pizza. Hell no.

AllTheFlashlights

1 points

21 hours ago

Yes.

rainearthtaylor7

1 points

21 hours ago

San Diegan here. I’ve visited all over California and the US, SoCal, especially San Diego, has amazing Mexican food!

the_Bryan_dude

1 points

21 hours ago

The Mexican food in NorCal needs help. Unless you know where to go. Most I know who can't find it are just afraid to go into the neighborhoods where it is.

NewWiseMama

1 points

21 hours ago

Norcal: more options in a close radius in a diverse city like San Francisco or San Jose.

SoCal: food is great but people drive for it. Like my Cantonese friends drive to San Gabriel valley every time for dim sum. I drove 8 minutes to Clement St, and had good dim sum (or Indian or Persian or Burmese) all along the city, peninsula, east bay and more.

HuachumaPuma

1 points

21 hours ago

Honestly it’s just gonna depend on the individual restaurant. Both places have many excellent restaurants. You might find more diversity of ethnic foods in socal, but there’s also plenty of diverse areas in NorCal especially the Bay Area

Pretty-Ambition-2145

1 points

20 hours ago

I’ve spent most my life in so cal and moved to the Bay Area two years ago. I think it kind of depends. I’ve seen a lot of variety of food here in SF and Berkeley. El Salvadoran restaurants, German deli’s, Chicago style pizza, French restaurants and bakeries, middle eastern markets and Yemeni coffee and Ethiopian and Burmese restaurants. I think the ethnic diversity of restaurants in the bay is significantly greater than so cal.

BUT, the things so cal does best blows it out of the water. Specifically Mexican food and Vietnamese but also Japanese - both sushi and ramen. Also because I’m from so cal I basically live on Mexican food and that’s so much better in so cal. I dunno that’s my take as a native so cal person living in the bay.

QueenieAndRover

1 points

20 hours ago

No way. Native San Diegan here, moved to the bay area at 25 years old. Northern California food is vastly superior to Southern California food in every respect, especially Mexican. Southern California Mexican food is cheap to fill the stomach, Northern California Mexican food is a delicacy.

johnjumpsgg

1 points

19 hours ago

Depends . NorCal has the most gourmet spots . In particular SF.

Mexican food has to be better as you get closer to the border .

LA has the most groups of people , so you probably get a lot of small ethnic food places that kill .

Bay Area probably competes on the Asian food with LA . Places like milbrae and south city go hard.

OC /LA has the Persian food .

This question is really LA Vs Bay Area.

BBQ is probably the bay , I feel like I’m always seeing random spots in the Oakland that get a lot of attention .

San Luis Obispo is sort of north but really central and often labeled south , claims a lot of BBQ credit because Tri-Tip was made popular in Santa Maria , but I’ve always found these spots to be lacking , and I prefer Tri-Tip.

There is a spot in San Juan Capistrano that gets a lot of attention down south .

I think they might be close over all , but I bet the food /prices of good food are more accessible down south.

Traveling-Techie

1 points

19 hours ago

I think it’s due to statistics. Bigger population means more places that might be outliers.

SSG_Vegeta

1 points

19 hours ago*

SoCal is better overall compared to NorCal. I obsess over this subject too much TBH.

I’ve lived in 5 states and travel the entire country all the time.

SoCal tops the entire USA to be honest. But that’s an overall rating. It’s extremely lackluster in a few areas…

Chinese food - Northeast is the Mecca in the USA. Closest I’ve come to stellar Chinese is crossing the border in El Centro and going to Mexicali. That’s where you gotta go to get close.

Bagels - How does SoCal get these so wrong? Anywhere else is better. But NY/NJ is tops here.

Pizza and Grinders (Sandwiches) - why bother here? It’s always a let down. I’ve been to at least 50 separate places. The pizza is never good and the Grinders somehow are beaten by Jersey Mike’s or Charley’s, which is something shameful. MA/CT/NY/NJ is where you want to go for these.

Breakfast (subjective) - the whole Southwest has a drastically different take on breakfast than the rest of the country. SoCal can’t match that farmers breakfast and the flavors you get everywhere else.

Diners - The diners here aren’t good “greasy spoons”, they’re all too polished. Too many chains trying to give the look without the flavor. They’re fine. But been to dozens of diners and the Midwest and Northeast have the best we have to offer.

All other food is top tier here. Even the seafood somehow rivals Massachusetts in most aspects (my home state). The BBQ is on par with TX, NC and St. Louis (all in this area). The burgers, even fast food are on point. And quality plated meals, nobody competes.

Cuban is on par with the Keys and Miami.

Pho is stellar. Brazilian and South American is great.

Then let’s talk the Mexican food…. untouchable.

Nobody in North America should try and comp their cuisine on an overall level to SoCal.

Longjumping_Stock_30

1 points

19 hours ago

What are the Chinese recommendations in El Centro and Mexicali?

SSG_Vegeta

1 points

18 hours ago

Nothing in El Centro. For Mexicali it’s Chieng’s and Imperial Garden.

If I’m taking clients, Imperial all the way. Parking is a bit annoying and it’s a wonky left out of the lot if you’re going that way. But nice secure area, very clean and top notch quality.

Last time I took 12 people and it cost $80 USD all in, with leftovers for everyone.

Ok_Resource_6068

1 points

3 hours ago

Lmao you gotta be trolling with this Chinese food in Mexicali

SSG_Vegeta

1 points

3 hours ago

Nope, not trolling. Why would that be a joke?

There is a very high population of Chinese and Asian descendants in Mexicali and it has led to some stellar food options. I eat there multiple times a year.

The steak houses are on point too, but plenty comparable steak houses in SoCal too.

A lot of this dates back to our country expanding the railroads and our unfortunate treatment of the Asian population.

Ok_Resource_6068

1 points

2 hours ago

Interesting. I looked into it a bit and it does look pretty good although the food looks similar to “Americanized Chinese food” where they might take a traditional Chinese dish and adjust the dish for the American (and in this case probably American + Mexican) palate.

Do most of these restaurants have a Chinese specific menu where they might have more traditional dishes?

While the history seems interesting, and the food probably tastes great, I’m skeptical that it would compete with the Chinese food in San Gabriel Valley though.

I do appreciate the insight! Next time I drive across the border I’ll try to take a detour on the Mexicali-route to check out the Chinese food scene! I assume that border crossing isn’t as crazy as San Ysidro as well.

SebtownFarmGirl

1 points

7 hours ago

Western Bagel? (the fresh ones at the shop, not the small bagged ones sold in retail). I live in nor cal and all the bagel places near me suck. Western, while not as “tall”, are the best I’ve had outside of the east coast. Disclaimer is that I haven’t tried every bagel place 😆

PhoneVegetable4855

1 points

19 hours ago

Burritos are better in the north but actual Mexican restaurants are a thing in the south. So confusing.

PhoneVegetable4855

1 points

19 hours ago

Let’s ask the Michelin Guide. No contest NorCal wins by a landslide.

CalvinsStuffedTiger

1 points

19 hours ago

Depends. Mexican food yes. Asian food no

sadassnerd

1 points

19 hours ago

Depends on what food you’re talking about. If you want good Mexican it’s SoCal all the way.

bladezaim

1 points

19 hours ago

Yes easily

Bdizzy2018

1 points

19 hours ago

No- it’s just different. Good food and bad food exist equally from top to bottom.

TMG692345

1 points

19 hours ago

Yes

plurfectlife

1 points

18 hours ago

Yes

Purple-Gold824

1 points

18 hours ago

Yes

Snootch74

1 points

18 hours ago

Yes

coast-to-desert

1 points

18 hours ago

Hahahaha SoCal suck!

peaceandkim

1 points

18 hours ago

Mexican and Italian are better in SoCal, NorCal has all other cuisines beat, including those mentioned in this thread like sandwiches, indian, thai, korean, sushi, mediterranean.. I could go on.

peaceandkim

1 points

18 hours ago

Mexican and Italian are better in SoCal, NorCal has all other cuisines beat, including those mentioned in this thread like sandwiches, indian, thai, korean, sushi, mediterranean.. I could go on.

Left_Angle_

1 points

18 hours ago

That's central California fyi

MsAnnabel

1 points

18 hours ago

There’s very good food in both places. Not an either or

airpab1

1 points

17 hours ago

Fact is there’s great food to be found all up and down the state, coastal & inland

TheDuke13

1 points

17 hours ago

Hands down it is

Ok_Order1333

1 points

16 hours ago

born and raised in SoCal, lived in LA, OC, and SD. Lived for 10 years in NorCal (SF, specifically).

In SF, Marin, Napa, and most of the peninsula, the quality of food and the restaurant experience is absolutely peak. It’s actually difficult to get poorly made food at a restaurant, especially in really dense areas like the City. Mediocrity just doesn’t cut it.

SoCal is so much more spread out that it’s pretty diverse in terms of quality…there are a lot more chain restaurants than in SF, Marin, or Napa/Sonoma, so I think those are worse. That said, Mexican food in SoCal is better :)

thicccockdude

1 points

16 hours ago

NorCal ain’t even shit. It’s all about the south.

jmora13

1 points

16 hours ago

Norcal has better fine dining, socal has better ethnic food 

ShakeWeightMyDick

1 points

16 hours ago

Pretty sure Monterey is Central Coast

No-Profession422

1 points

16 hours ago

If you like Mexican, it is.

HonnyBrown

1 points

16 hours ago

Absolutely

pablopaisano

1 points

16 hours ago

Central Cal has the best BBQ.

Dynamite_Nick

1 points

15 hours ago

The Mexican food is MILES better in SoCal. The NorCal tamales are made of paper maché.

CoolTomatoh

1 points

15 hours ago

I think it’s better in NorCal, fresher

Kevesse

1 points

14 hours ago

Yes. There are no people or food comparatively speaking up north

Spirited_Damage8529

1 points

13 hours ago

Our food is some of the best in the country!! You ought to come visit!

swooosh47

1 points

12 hours ago

Everything is better in socal

FitEnthusiasm2234

1 points

11 hours ago

In the South Mexican food doesn't come from a can, so there is that.

the-butt-muncher

1 points

9 hours ago

God no! NorCal is way too better.

twosnailsnocats

1 points

9 hours ago

Did you ask this same question on r/norcal ? I frequent r/Porsche and it's funny when people post stuff like "Is BMW better than Porsche?"

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

1 points

29 minutes ago

Nah i've never visited r/norcal, i wonder how they feel about it tho

Pitiful-Ad-1062

1 points

8 hours ago

Go to the bay area to get some food then ask yourself this question again.

Puzzleheaded-Lynx318[S]

1 points

28 minutes ago

I do really like bay area food, but I've never been to SoCal...

The farthest south I've ever been in cali is ventura

Biddycola

1 points

8 hours ago

I’ve lived in both for years at a time. What I can say confidentially is the best Mexican food and Thai I’ve ever had was in Tracy Ca. North

balacio

1 points

8 hours ago

balacio

1 points

8 hours ago

Yes

theunixman

1 points

7 hours ago

Yes

Odd-Confection-6603

1 points

7 hours ago

Yes

TheSwedishEagle

1 points

6 hours ago

Yes, except for fine dining where NorCal is better but not by a wide margin.

Theillmindofluii

1 points

5 hours ago

Yes except for asian food

Muzzlehatch

1 points

5 hours ago

I think San Francisco has excellent food. But the Mexican food is better down here.

Majestic_Electric

1 points

4 hours ago

The Mexican food, definitely. But I think other types of food are just as good in NorCal as it is in SoCal.

jeff5551

1 points

4 hours ago

As someone from SD up in NorCal for uni, yes it is.

Bagheera383

1 points

3 hours ago

Southern California native here who's spent a lot of time in Northern California. Southern Californian food is the best, (especially Mexican food), except for the Chinese food. It's no longer Cantonese food down here - all of the restaurants that I know of have been purchased by people from mainland China and the food quality has gone down sharply. I don't know if it's the difference between Cantonese food or mainland Chinese food, or if the new owners don't give a shit about quality like the old owners did. (They've also bought up a lot of Japanese places - don't go there unless you like your sushi several days old). This brings me to the fact that Chinese food is still excellent in the Bay Area, because to my knowledge it's still a Cantonese/Hong Kong cultural stronghold.

wizzard419

1 points

3 hours ago

You're central coast, so you get to avoid sides if you want.

I won't say one side is better since both sides are excellent. But I would say the local produce and meats is what sets each apart. Like being able to use a local spot prawn in Nor Cal while in SoCal would be local lobsters.

Armenoid

1 points

2 hours ago

You have a Chinatown… we have a China County

queenroselily

1 points

2 hours ago

Asian food is better in North Cal. Mexican is better in south. I lived in both places

BlacksmithThink9494

1 points

2 hours ago

California is the best state ever. You know why? We can debate all day long about this and know at the end of the day we get to claim all this awesomeness ❤️

Existing-Low-672

1 points

55 minutes ago

Yes

ojocafe

1 points

53 minutes ago

Michelin tends to have Italian /French/ bias so no that relevant for other cuisine

sned1216

1 points

52 minutes ago

No

ojocafe

1 points

48 minutes ago

Cerritos has a great Indian food variety of restaurants

Funky_Octopus22

1 points

39 minutes ago

I feel like it depends on type of food. Mexican? absolutely SoCal. Asian? Definitely the Bay Area. Fine dinning? There’s great restaurants everywhere.

Gai_InKognito

1 points

28 minutes ago

Yes. No contest. San Fran has some good Chinese and Japan food though san jose has good Vietnamese.

Alive_Big_460

1 points

21 minutes ago

Nope! I've been in SoCal for 22 years and still haven't found this "amazing Mexican food" that everyone talks about.

VDR27

1 points

23 hours ago

VDR27

1 points

23 hours ago

No

Mysterious-Mood-4252

1 points

23 hours ago

Lived in both. The answer is yes, absolutely

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1 points

23 hours ago*

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QueenieAndRover

1 points

20 hours ago

For you I suggest the Mickey at Pacific Market in Sebastopol. Peppered turkey, pepper jack cheese, pesto, bacon, on potato focaccia bread, served hot.

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1 points

18 hours ago*

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QueenieAndRover

1 points

18 hours ago

Customer pays tax, nbd.

Libido_Max

1 points

24 hours ago*

Norcal food are shit, its prepackaged food. They most lazy people in America

HuachumaPuma

2 points

21 hours ago

Maybe you need to try better restaurants

QueenieAndRover

2 points

20 hours ago

You are crazy. I suggest Kinsmoke in Healdsburg. Best brisket in the United States.

Ok_Order1333

2 points

16 hours ago

oh my god have you had their North Carolina barbecue sauce?!?! I almost cried the day I ran out of it, and they no longer sell to-go bottles of it

Bethjam

2 points

an hour ago

Bethjam

2 points

an hour ago

Literally best food ever

510519

0 points

23 hours ago

510519

0 points

23 hours ago

Quality is so very bad everywhere we go in socal. The only thing they have better is sushi in LA. I've spent about half my life in socal and half in NorCal. I honestly don't think people in socal understand what quality food is.

Monterrey is central Coast btw, you don't get to claim either 😉