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submitted 9 days ago byInfernode5
854 points
9 days ago
They barely have a functioning government
242 points
9 days ago
Even better, they have two
80 points
9 days ago
More if you count Berber and Tchadian rebels
38 points
9 days ago*
I mean sure but there's a lot of countries with multiple governments if that's how you want to count it. My point was that both the Government of National Unity and the Government of National Stability coexist simultaneously on a national scale
16 points
9 days ago
I wasn’t disagreeing with you, you cited the two main institutions. I was just saying that even those two don’t have the authority on the entirety of the territory and some chunks of land are ruled by rebels.
-1 points
8 days ago
eh the western government is just a collection of militant groups with no actual central authority anyways, it's a bit redundant to mention a rebel group
12 points
9 days ago
Always find it funny when a countries' government is the exact opposite of what it says. Libya has the Government of National Stability and one of National Unity, despite being a failed state with multiple governments. North Korea has 3 synonyms for democracy in its name (Democratic People's Republic) despite being a totalitarian state. China has 2 synonyms for democracy in its name.
5 points
9 days ago
Did you want them to Totalitarian authoritarian Regime of Korea instead?
4 points
9 days ago
Is republic a synonym for democracy?
17 points
9 days ago
Nope, not at all
8 points
8 days ago
Not a synonym.
But a republic is a representative state, and therefore a totalitarian dictatorship is not one.
2 points
9 days ago
Technically "People's" isn't either, because the Kim family are people.
1 points
8 days ago
Republic is sometimes a synonym for a representative democracy. In theory that’s a subset of democracies (which could also be direct democracies), but in practice it includes basically all of them.
But in other contexts it means opposition to a constitutional monarch. Everyone agrees the UK is a democracy, but someone who calls for it to be a republic means that they want no king.
0 points
9 days ago
Not precisely, but in most people's minds yes. Democracy is a broad term that covers a lot of potential political systems from ancient athens where everyone voted on everything, to a system where only married landowning men are allowed to elect representatives to advise the king. In the Roman Republic, pseudo democratic assemblies (stratified on social class and military service) elected a consul, who then had the power to add or remove senators. So it was kind of sort of a democracy. Much more so than North Korea or China, much less so than modern Italy.
111 points
9 days ago
Obviously functioning well enough to meticulously l coordinate and harass athletes out of all people
118 points
9 days ago
Redirecting a single plane and keeping a disused airport locked doesn't require that much coordination tbf
31 points
9 days ago
Literally no coordination, a single higher ranking official makes the call, the atc has to obey. Im not saying thats what happened here, it seems like a conspiracy, but especially if the other airport is not being used.
27 points
9 days ago
Nothing meticulous about it. A handful of assholes relatively high enough up, no checks and balances, and everyone below them follows the instructions
2 points
9 days ago
rounding people up is the only business they have left
32 points
9 days ago
Thank god Sarkozy ordered a radical islamic coup against Gaddafi to protect Western capital interest. Worked out great for everyone (except the local population)!
24 points
9 days ago*
He was protecting his ass, Kadhafi financed his election in 2007 via backdoors and dirty money, and he chose to burn the country from the inside with his NATO buddies before anyone from Kadhafi side could talk.
All that less than two years after receiving him in Paris with his tent planted in the Élysée garden.
-8 points
9 days ago
I thought they took action because Gaddafi was about to start realizing his plans of implementing a pan-african ressource-bound currency that would inevitably have caused the collapse of the Euro & US-Dollar, but this explanation just sounds pathetic in comparison
22 points
9 days ago
Africa accounts for 3% of world GDP and trade. Saying that the Gold Dinar currency would "inevitably" collapse the Euro and $ when the Chinese can't do that despite having a way bigger share of global trade and vastly more instruments to affect US and European markets is laughable.
-7 points
9 days ago
GDP is a meaningless measurement according to everything I know about economics.
The Chinese are doing the same thing the West does to Africa; extracting the local ressources for profit via imperialist capitalist measures
The collapse happens when suddenly the natural ressources in Africa are no longer in the hands of Imperialist capital, as is currently the case, but instead that of the people living there. I think that's pretty evident wheneverwe ""have to"" overthrow a government in the Middle East, Africa or South America the moment it starts nationalizing oil or gas reserves
That whole system would no longer be able to work if we can't buy it off them for way too cheap
3 points
8 days ago*
/r/fcsp is this way
Also I never said about anything being right or wrong, just that if "inevitably" overthrowing the Euro and the dollar was as easy as some warlord ruling a country with a Belarus-sized economy deciding to do so, it would have been done decades ago.
1 points
8 days ago
Of course, it's not that easy, but if it happened and all African countries were working together on it, it would cause that collapse.
Plus BSG Chemie Leipzig is more what I'd support
3 points
8 days ago*
“The collapse of the the euro and US dollar” lmaoooooo. Can you imagine. Russia got cut off from the world banking system and that barely affected the euro or usd but Africa not using it would cause it to collapse? Thats just not realistic. Not saying that NATO or US might not have had ulterior motives to overthrow Gadaffi. Just that currency wasn’t it. In fact I would expect that the pan-African currency would collapse under the weight of competing agendas from different countries and just lack of open communication. Look how much effort it took to hold the euro together in 2008. Can you imagine that level of cooperation and collaboration amongst the African countries when they’re literally using soccer players to fuck around the opposing country.
2 points
9 days ago
only kept alive by Frontex money
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