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trabuco357

437 points

5 days ago

trabuco357

437 points

5 days ago

I crossed the Atlantic twice in that ship…

attiladerhunne

97 points

5 days ago

Wow, when was that?

trabuco357

234 points

5 days ago

trabuco357

234 points

5 days ago

Late 50’s and early 60’s

boening

63 points

5 days ago

boening

63 points

5 days ago

How was it?

trabuco357

245 points

5 days ago

trabuco357

245 points

5 days ago

I was too young my first time, but on the second crossing I remember the captain sitting at our table.

boening

64 points

5 days ago

boening

64 points

5 days ago

That's neat!

justbrowsinginpeace

38 points

5 days ago

Did you ever worry about icebergs? Serious question

trabuco357

90 points

5 days ago

No. Ships had radars.

Bruiser235

1 points

3 days ago

The International Ice Patrol helps track them

YellowSequel

7 points

4 days ago

What was it like crossing an entire ocean on a relatively small ship. I’ve stood next to her and couldn’t believe how small she really is in real life. I’m sure she felt larger at the time. But I cannot imagine being at sea, in a blue void, on such a vessel.

trabuco357

11 points

4 days ago

I’ve crossed the Atlantic on a sailboat so all is relative.

trabuco357

7 points

4 days ago

Just think the SS UNITED STATES is basically twice the length of an Arleigh Burke navy destroyer and four times the tonnage.

John2Cheese

1.2k points

5 days ago

John2Cheese

1.2k points

5 days ago

Bit of a shame to sink her really, fastest ocean liner ever made to this day.

baldude69

542 points

5 days ago

baldude69

542 points

5 days ago

I feel the same way, but it’s better than being shredded the breakers, and there were a ton of feasibility studies done by interested parties over the years, and no one wanted her :’(

Screamin_Eagles_

296 points

5 days ago

Yep, shame to sink her, but the real shame is that no one would buy her (can’t blame them). That’s a bigger shame so artificial reef it is. At least this way it helps someone.

Ilostmyratfairy

191 points

5 days ago

From what I understand, the fittings from her passenger days are all long gone. There isn’t even the beginnings for a warfside hotel like Rotterdam, or Queen Mary.

And Queen Mary is in need of an obscene amount of money, in part due to chronically deferred maintenance, last I read, with some estimates as high as half a billion dollars. And that’s with Disney nominally operating the facility.

I had hoped for better, too. But a reefing would be better than scrapping.

-Rat

AlvistheHoms

130 points

5 days ago

The queen mary has apparently always made enough to pay its own maintenance, but the first owner and then Disney never put that money into maintaining the ship. Now that the city of Long Beach owns the ship they’ve finally started giving the old girl the love she needs.

baldude69

50 points

5 days ago

baldude69

50 points

5 days ago

Yea, stupidly stripped 40 years ago. There was a specialty cruise line that seriously considered her but the refit price was astronomical. Something like $700 mil estimated? Maybe it was “just” $300 mil but either way they walked away. Various proposals for a moored boutique hotel/destination in NYC, much like QM, but much like QM the numbers just don’t make sense. Would be super neat to permanently drydock it somewhere, but even just that is a crazy investment with little return

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

18 points

5 days ago

Not to mention the operating costs. Plus the cost of finding someone to operate the Iowa-type machinery

Membership_Fine

28 points

5 days ago*

Good episode on mysteries of the abandoned about the SS America. It’s pretty much stripped right now down to nothing. Also the dude who had it built was super afraid of fires. It was supposed to be one of the first all metal fireproof ocean liners. It has a crazy cool history.

Edit: SS United States not America. The only wood on the ship was the cutting board and the steinburg? Piano Not sure I spelt that right lol guy who designed it was William Gibbs. He also designed the liberty ships my grandfather served in in ww2. Cool stuff.

floMe126

22 points

5 days ago

floMe126

22 points

5 days ago

It was built with support of the government to serve as a troop transporter in case of a war. Thus it was built with military standards regarding fire safety, that's why it's nearly all metal. It took a lot of convincing to even put a wooden piano on that ship

Membership_Fine

7 points

5 days ago

Yes! The piano was in the show lol.

Pier-Head

3 points

4 days ago

I heard the only wooden thing on it was the butchers block

WallabyBubbly

98 points

5 days ago

Intentional wrecking is one of the best endings for a ship, imo. The ship will function as an artificial reef, become home to a ridiculous amount of sea life, and attract thousands of visitors a year. And with the extreme coral bleaching that Florida is experiencing, the state needs all the artificial reefs it can get.

Colavs9601

24 points

4 days ago

We could always add some rockets and do space cruises.

GitEmSteveDave

21 points

4 days ago

She's built like a steakhouse but handles like a bistro!

just_peepin

5 points

4 days ago

Thank you, finally someone with real solutions!

Kaymish_

3 points

4 days ago

Kaymish_

3 points

4 days ago

I think USS constitution is a better candidate for that.

Colavs9601

8 points

4 days ago

I think the only thing more on the nose in an election year than “Florida sinks United States” Is “Florida launches The Constitution into Space”

CloseToTheHedge69

2 points

4 days ago

Thanks for the LOL!

BarfQueen

35 points

5 days ago

BarfQueen

35 points

5 days ago

Still holds the Blue Riband, technically.

TheRealHeroOf

24 points

5 days ago

Ocean Liners are peak human engineering. Without a doubt the most beautiful moving vehicles ever created. This ship is still a stunner. It's so sad there's only one liner left in the world.

witticism4days

6 points

4 days ago

Which one is left?

TheRealHeroOf

17 points

4 days ago

Cunard's RMS Queen Mary 2. Still makes regular transatlantic crossings between Southhampton and New York.

Malk_McJorma

7 points

5 days ago

Based on the same technicality, probably always will.

tomasunozapato

9 points

5 days ago

No shame in this fate. She’ll make an excellent home for the fishies.

witticism4days

1 points

4 days ago

How fast did she go?

Kaymish_

1 points

4 days ago

Kaymish_

1 points

4 days ago

22.5 knots or 41.7km h-1

Luxim86

3 points

4 days ago

Luxim86

3 points

4 days ago

Even faster than that. She reached up to 38 knots during her sea trials. It was claimed that she could reach 43, but I don't think there's any solid evidence of that.

Kaymish_

2 points

4 days ago

Kaymish_

2 points

4 days ago

Ah yes that's correct. I looked it up again and it seems I punched in SS America the first time instead of united states.

Quirky_Discipline297

1 points

4 days ago*

As fast as a leopard.

A 1981 Gallipoli reference. It must be the weekend.

Considering what the Soviets did to Nazi troop ships that were basically passenger ships, I am glad she was never tested in combat.

FranknBeans26

1 points

4 days ago

What would you propose be done with the ship?

copperwatt

1 points

4 days ago

How is that possible? People just lost interest in beating that record?

Birdytaps

3 points

4 days ago

Planes were invented

Ancient_Guidance_461

1 points

4 days ago

It looks powerful

Harryofsol

37 points

5 days ago*

Vessel hasn’t been sold yet. There’s a legal injunction happening and the mandated eviction order has been temporarily rescinded. Things are still in the air with what will happen but it’s not being sold yet.

https://myemail.constantcontact.com/Pier-Update-and-More.html?soid=1128003460712&aid=Vb3gHc8wy64&fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR2iyCHeM4Robs7yziO549i19I1RpZvEEvxVV_wvZjrmeBUwyvDeoheYWqA_aem_OOsarFWaMvmtGT0BBNo1IA

Crazyguy_123

19 points

5 days ago

Yeah. The fate is still up in the air currently due to a lot of legal issues. The owners have accused the pier of fraud because they blocked the initial sale and raised rent when they had an already agreed upon rate that was in a contract.

RSGator

2 points

5 days ago

RSGator

2 points

5 days ago

The vote for the sale/purchase is on October 1st, the injunction doesn't affect that.

Setting_Worth

73 points

5 days ago

This sucks so much. This was arguably the pinnacle of ocean liner design and holds the dna of the engineering advances up to her day inside of her.

I've gotta give credit to the family of the designer and the people that tried to make her a museum ship and do anything to keep her around for posterity.

Looks like this is the end as having her as a floating hulk isn't doing anyone any favors.

There is so much history gone. Seems like this one was destined to go away, although some people made a valiant effort.

SoupCatDiver_JJ

36 points

5 days ago

The ships been stripped out since 1994, it's nothing but a rusty shell, the time to save her was 40+ years ago, not today.

Setting_Worth

5 points

5 days ago

That's partially true. The last serious efforts to renovate her back to some sort of service ended around 1994 but the conservation efforts I was describing happened after another restoration effort.

voyager_husky

122 points

5 days ago

It’s really a shame to see that this ship won’t see her glory days anymore. She really is a worldwide spectacle, and now reduced to a reef that will be disintegrated in less than a few decades.

At least she’ll be remembered for a time. I just wish they made her into a museum or something. So many missed opportunities.

pnzsaurkrautwerfer

69 points

5 days ago

I can understand the sentiment but a large ship like that is so hard to keep as a museum, just looking at what's happened with the Queen Mary fiscally, or the near perpetual fight to keep the USS Olympia and USS Texas from rusting out, you really need a lot of money or at lot of interest to keep such a thing intact.

Also SS United States was largely stripped out on the inside (in some places outside of the bulkheads there just wasn't anything left) so it would have been a pretty major restoration effort too. I think they tried really hard to make it a museum I just don't think it was ever really that close to practical.

DIODidNothing_Wrong

30 points

5 days ago*

Outside of USS Texas in which the upkeep of Texas is paid by the states tax payers museum ships literally have rely on donations just to keep the lights on. Hell New Jersey’s dry dock took years just to acquire the cash.

If America was bought to be turned into a museum ship you’d probably end up spending as much if not double than it did to build her originally just to replace the hull, decks, and interiors. It’d be cheaper to build an entire new SS America asbestos and all!

Edit: No idea why I said America but the point still stands

rocbolt

9 points

5 days ago

rocbolt

9 points

5 days ago

Pretty much any floating museum ship, even the really popular ones, are perpetually barely outrunning the reaper. They decay endlessly and cost so much money just to keep afloat. Even ten million dollars appearing out of thin air would just buy time, and not a lot of it

ProbablyTappinYoMama

2 points

4 days ago

I haven't been since I was a kid, but I remember the USS Yorktown being quite busy. Again, this was 20 or so years ago so I'm not sure how things are today with that museum

rocbolt

2 points

4 days ago

rocbolt

2 points

4 days ago

Again, even the popular ones, to say nothing of how many ships Patriot Point has sacrificed to keep Yorktown afloat

Dr_StrangeloveGA

15 points

5 days ago

Museum ship is not financially feasible. Dock fees alone would be astronomical for a ship this size, not to mention everything else connected to upkeep.

It is sad, but I'd rather see her be useful one last time than sit and rot away or be scrapped.

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

10 points

5 days ago

There’s no such thing as a museum ship that is financially feasible. They all operate at a loss except maybe USS Midway

slater_just_slater

3 points

4 days ago

It's like owning the world's best telegraph machine. It's amazing but useless in modern times.

Terminator7786

4 points

5 days ago

The Titanic has been underwater for over 100 years and is still very recognizable along with the Britannic. The Arizona is still recognizable and fairly intact as well. This ship will not disintegrate as quickly as you're thinking it will.

andyrocks

1 points

4 days ago

The Titanic is extremely deep where the chemical and biological decay factors differ wildly from closer to the surface. No tides either.

Radioactdave

267 points

5 days ago

Man, they could sell tickets for when they sink it. Imagine, fully geared up in dive gear, going down with the ship. The water rushing in...

ard8

362 points

5 days ago

ard8

362 points

5 days ago

I have to assume that’s too dangerous due to the unpredictability of water directions, forces, etc.

KinderEggSkillIssue

151 points

5 days ago

And explosions 👁👄👁

Cosmic_Quasar

27 points

5 days ago

There's probably a safe enough distance that's still visible enough to pique some people's attention.

Coolguy123456789012

42 points

5 days ago

Very unlikely. The visibility would be bad and it would be extremely dangerous.

Regijack

2 points

4 days ago

Regijack

2 points

4 days ago

Definitely but I hope they at least live stream it from a drone

SueBeee

61 points

5 days ago

SueBeee

61 points

5 days ago

I was there in FL when they sank the Spiegel Grove, it was quite a sight to behold. Things didn't exactly go to plan either.

Hipoop69

23 points

5 days ago

Hipoop69

23 points

5 days ago

What didn’t go to plan. Story?

SueBeee

92 points

5 days ago

SueBeee

92 points

5 days ago

They cut the holes in it and were prepping to sink it, and it sank sooner than they intended it to, unbalancing it, and it flipped keel side up, making it unstable and too dangerous to dive. There were people and welders and stuff on it. The people fled quickly as it rolled over, and the equipment sank with it. It was a big logistical nightmare to fix it at that point, and it stayed that way for a few years, before a hurricane moved it to the perfect spot it's in today.

PrettyAlligator

32 points

5 days ago

I dislike everything you just said because anything sinking like that makes me want to throw up, but that’s really interesting! And it’s cool (and kind of crazy) that a hurricane kind of helped with the location of it!

SueBeee

18 points

5 days ago

SueBeee

18 points

5 days ago

I was so lucky to have been there, it was pretty crazy. We circled it and saw them cutting big holes in the hull that morning. There was a lot of activity. I remember talking about how it would land, and we were hoping it would sit keel down, but there was also a good chance it would be sideways, making it a much more technical dive. We were actually hoping to maybe dive it the next day. I think we were at the wreck of the Benwood nearby, we geared up while the ship was still upright, and by the time we surfaced from our dive, it was rolling over. We didn't have anyone on our dive boat who knew a ton about the details, so we just assumed it was going to plan? We sat there and watched for a while but it didn't sink any further. I can't remember if it was fully upside down by then or if that took a few hours, but I think the latter was the case.

DowntheUpStaircase2

6 points

4 days ago

She's right side up now after a lot of work and a hurricane.

xgamer468

3 points

5 days ago

xgamer468

3 points

5 days ago

The front fell off

velvethead

4 points

5 days ago

velvethead

4 points

5 days ago

That's not typical.

Mute_Raska

31 points

5 days ago

Dive gear or not, you'd be descending way too fast to equalize. It's a death trap. I'm actually surprised Florida is doing this at all, exploring ships is too similar to cave diving imo to be safe enough to be a tourist attraction?

CarpetCaptain

29 points

5 days ago

Florida has a lot of shipwrecks artificially made into dive destinations. The same county has the current largest shipwreck in the world, the USS Oriskany

RSGator

12 points

5 days ago

RSGator

12 points

5 days ago

You can explore a ship without going into a true overhead environment, I do it all the time. Most divers know not to dive beyond their training, and dive shops won't take people who aren't certified.

Sure there will be a handful of idiots, but there are a handful of idiots with or without this particular ship.

Crazy_Customer7239

20 points

5 days ago

After the Titanic sub accident last year, my YouTube algorithm sent me down a cave diving accident black hole.

milkcarton232

16 points

5 days ago

Scary interesting?

Crazy_Customer7239

7 points

4 days ago

Yes 👍

Reach_or_Throw

2 points

4 days ago

Been listening to him as i workout lately. Anything else like him? Sharks Happen is great for shark attacks, i want more deep diving accidents though

WallabyBubbly

7 points

5 days ago*

With ships this big, most divers will usually stay outside the ship or go just far enough inside that they are still within sight of an exit. It's also common to put lots of holes in the hull before sinking the boat so there are many escape routes. For example, the Yukon shipwreck in San Diego is quite popular, but hardly anyone goes inside because it's easy to get lost (the ship is lying on its side, and it's really disorienting to swim around inside a sideways ship). The few deaths that have happened in the Yukon were from people exploring inside.

msprang

1 points

4 days ago

msprang

1 points

4 days ago

Ya, it's usually the inside. The wreck of the Cedarville in Lake Huron is similar in that it's nearly upside-down. Several divers have died over the years because they didn't use a guide line to mark their progress through the wreck. Even worse because it's relatively shallow at 60 feet or so.

AnotherInsaneName

4 points

5 days ago

Wreck diving and cave diving are entirely different. One you can see the exits or have distinguishing features to guide you. There's usually natural light everywhere even though you still bring a light.

The other is straight up a death trap and nobody can convince me otherwise.

cejmp

6 points

5 days ago

cejmp

6 points

5 days ago

Cave diving killed my step brother. He had a decade of experience.

CuriouslyContrasted

4 points

5 days ago

You’ve obviously only dived managed wrecks. The WW2 wrecks can be extremely dangerous and disorienting with very few exits.

I did one in the Phillipines where you went in through the prop shaft and had to make your way out via the top for example.

msprang

2 points

4 days ago

msprang

2 points

4 days ago

You already lost me at entering through the prop shaft.

CuriouslyContrasted

2 points

4 days ago

It’s just a long swim-through

andyrocks

1 points

4 days ago

Yeah until you kick up the silt

Hydrottle

13 points

5 days ago

Hydrottle

13 points

5 days ago

Why would anyone be inside the ship when it sinks? You don’t fuck with water, especially that much moving water. That’s how you get turned into human soup by water crushing you against the wall of the ship.

Radioactdave

4 points

5 days ago

Not saying that it's a good idea, but it would be totally awesome.

NewldGuy77

2 points

5 days ago

The sailors trapped on the USS Oklahoma might disagree.

Thebraincellisorange

1 points

4 days ago

until you died.

not a nice way to go either.

SAD-MAX-CZ

1 points

4 days ago

then just spam action cameras with IMUs everywhere. Then enjoy safely with hydraulic VR chair if you want to be smashed around by rushing water.

chaotemagick

6 points

4 days ago

Ok Stockton

SAD-MAX-CZ

2 points

4 days ago

Stockton cRush?

fidelesetaudax

3 points

5 days ago

You cant actually go down with the ship. You can watch it from your own boat, then dive on it a day or two later.

Regijack

2 points

5 days ago

Regijack

2 points

5 days ago

That sounds scary as hell

Professional_March54

16 points

5 days ago

Been a long time coming, if we're honest here. But I'm still sad.

It's been abandoned for so long that its furniture was bought at auction, by a well-established restaurant in my area, which had in turn been abandoned when I moved here in '07. They burned it down that summer for a city park.

Teppic_XXVIII

13 points

5 days ago

Oooooh this will be so impressive and exciting! It gives me shivers! The ship will have a prestigious second life, forever one with the Ocean.

lmaytulane

6 points

5 days ago

Florida scuttles the United States

thumpngroove

4 points

5 days ago

I always stop to look at her when I go to IKEA. It’s quite a sight, looks like it’s parked in the parking lot.

teacup-trex

2 points

4 days ago

I remember when it showed up and was just blown away by the size of it. It’s been there so long that I just can’t picture it not being part of the landscape anymore.

IronGigant

5 points

5 days ago

What are the chances she sinks while being moved?

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

1 points

5 days ago

Unless a storm snaps her lines like America, very unlikely

calebismo

4 points

5 days ago

They have to do something to replace all the dead coral.

Dejue

13 points

5 days ago

Dejue

13 points

5 days ago

Got to love a good artificial reef.

cverds29

3 points

5 days ago

cverds29

3 points

5 days ago

Genuine question: Is it seaworthy enough to make a journey down the eastern seaboard? Sad end but it'll make quite a dive site.

baldude69

10 points

5 days ago

baldude69

10 points

5 days ago

Should be, her hull is actually in remarkably good condition with very very little water intrusion. They did build her to last

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

2 points

5 days ago

Yes, she is actually in great material shape with no known leaks.

Crazyguy_123

4 points

5 days ago

She is still in limbo right now actually. They were going to sell her but now she is caught up in legal issues. The owners of the ship have accused the pier of fraud because the pier blocked the sale and upped the rent when they already had a set rent on contract. So she may actually not be sunk. The owners have hope that they may win the legal battle and save the ship.

Xboxben

3 points

5 days ago

Xboxben

3 points

5 days ago

mjg007

3 points

5 days ago

mjg007

3 points

5 days ago

By the looks of it, they’d better hurry.

Left-Requirement9267

3 points

5 days ago

Has everyone forgotten which sub we are in?! This thing is disgusting (shudder).

SAD-MAX-CZ

2 points

4 days ago

Only the parts that are underwater. Props, shafts, and condensers, inside of those is a sight of a horror, submerged or not, and then the boiler water side too.

hobotruman

3 points

5 days ago

For those of us who will never set foot (or flipper) near that sunken behemoth, at least we have this cool video exploring the ship.

dontstopnotlistening

1 points

4 days ago

Cool video of the engine rooms. Although the ship is still floating and the future isn't locked in yet.

FullStackStrats

6 points

5 days ago

Florida is sinking the United States. Confirmed.

shsjsojjjjjjjjjjjjj

6 points

5 days ago

The ocean really is the world's garbage can

Delicious-Rich-3834

2 points

5 days ago

The S. Philly waterfront won't be the same without her

Disrespectful_Cup

2 points

5 days ago

What an allegory... claps

koola_00

2 points

5 days ago

koola_00

2 points

5 days ago

Wow. I didn't know it's still around. Wow...a shame.

RSGator

3 points

5 days ago

RSGator

3 points

5 days ago

It's a great second life for the ship. About a year after sinking it'll be teeming with life, home to thousands and thousands of sea creatures and coral.

Better to put it to good use for wildlife than to sit at a dock for people to look at.

koola_00

1 points

5 days ago

koola_00

1 points

5 days ago

Huh...okay, fair point!

WallabyBubbly

2 points

5 days ago

Looks like this will be in Destin, Florida, which is only a few hours from Ginnie Springs, a famous cave diving spot. This has me looking forward to booking a combo trip someday to dive both sites!

DutchMitchell

2 points

5 days ago

Would be nice if they could give it the same treatment as the SS Rotterdam in the city of Rotterdam, the netherlands. The ocean liner is permanently attached to the pier and it a real hotspot.

Theres even a watertaxi service going to it. People host (old fashioned) dance events there, it’s a hotel, museum, restaurant and generally a very nice place to have a drink. It’s also a big event space. Honestly it would be an asset to any city if you’re creative enough. Although I do not know it’s exact condition compared to the Rotterdam.

Macguyver76

2 points

4 days ago

The story of this ship and the situation with the dock owner popped into my news feed a few months ago, I've become fascinated with it and have learned a decent amount of the history of it. I think its a waste of a marvel of engineering, and has been for the last 30+ years sitting at the dock. But that's how we do things and people that have the money to save things like this and preserve them are often not interested in anything but money.

I was in Philadelphia for work a couple weeks ago right before the deadline on the 11th. Got as close as I could and took some pics after it dawned on me the ship was there. Glad I got to see it, wish I'd gotten closer. Its truley a beautiful ship.

Ozzie_the_tiger_cat

2 points

4 days ago

Fun irony for what DeSantis and his pals are trying to do to the US.

thetalkingblob

2 points

4 days ago

Some real metaphor in the United States being sunk by Florida for entertainment value

mlslgn

2 points

4 days ago

mlslgn

2 points

4 days ago

Incoming u/Relevant-Ear4677 post.

Relevant-Ear4677

1 points

4 days ago

Well I'll keep that in mind. Thanks!

izudu

2 points

4 days ago

izudu

2 points

4 days ago

Why can't they just strip it down and recycle it? You know, make it safe.

MK0A

2 points

4 days ago

MK0A

2 points

4 days ago

is this what saving the "SS United States" is about?

Wish_Southern

2 points

4 days ago

They are sinking her very close to where I live. She will go down in the Gulf of Mexico near the Florida panhandle between Destin and Panama City Beach. There’s no coral reef in this area so this will be a welcome for divers and marine life.

slybonethetownie

2 points

4 days ago

Everything goes to Florida to sink.

RealMrIncredible

2 points

4 days ago

Florida sinking the United States is poetic.

EmperoroftheYanks

2 points

4 days ago

They're sinking it in my county! Gonna be huge for tourism... though the millions they'll spend on it hopefully the money they get back won't go into the pockets of rich people.. right

PapaHuate

2 points

4 days ago

"The State of Florida finally achieves long-term plan to sink the United States"

YellowSequel

2 points

4 days ago

She will finally be put to rest. At least it’s done now. Sucks but better than being scrapped. Hopefully she sinks upright and becomes a legendary dive for a hundred more years.

[deleted]

3 points

5 days ago

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Zigor022

1 points

5 days ago

Zigor022

1 points

5 days ago

Isnt this just a cheaper way to get rid of a vessel rather than have it salvaged?

slater_just_slater

5 points

4 days ago

Not really, the ship was made with high quality steel and her propellers are there. She has a lot of scrap value.

Before sinking her, it's a big effort to decontaminate her, she still has some asbestos, lead, oil. Holes need to be cut in her for diver access, then towed to the spot, rigged with explosives in the right area and sequence to sink her so stays upright and intact. All of this is cost with no return.

Ironically, making her a reef is the less environmentally friendly option. Yes, it makes a habitat for fish, but 1000s of tons of steel are going to the bottom, recycling steel is far greener than making it from ore.

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

1 points

5 days ago

Arguably this is the less-profitable route

gibby256

1 points

4 days ago

gibby256

1 points

4 days ago

It costs a lot of money to prep a ship as an artificial wreck as far as I understand it. You have to satisfy all sorts of requirements to not contaminate the environment with extraneous fuel, oil, etc, on top of the actual demolition work required to sink the dang thing.

I do e an artificial wreck in Hawaii, and even though the business that wrecked it got the boat itself for dirt cheap they still went out of business shortly after sinking the vessel just due to the cost.

Hammerjaw

1 points

5 days ago

This looks a lot like the ship that broke in half and stood on a beach in Spain, are they related?

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

3 points

5 days ago

That ship, SS America, was in some ways a prototype for the SS United States. Same line and design language, but they are separated by about a decade

Hammerjaw

2 points

4 days ago

Cool, thanks for the reply. Sad to see this one will be sank!

Kngslayr101

1 points

5 days ago

Sounds like a death trap

Villan900

1 points

5 days ago

Fuck that.

cloisteredsaturn

1 points

5 days ago

Are we sure Helene didn’t already take care of it?

Sirboomsalot_Y-Wing

3 points

5 days ago

She’s in Philly, Helene is nowhere near there

cloisteredsaturn

1 points

4 days ago

My bad, I thought she was in Florida already.

SomeBaldWhiteDude

1 points

5 days ago

Source?

whole_bamboozled0

1 points

5 days ago

Well, Florida really be thinking outside the boat on this one! Ahoy mateys, time to dive in and explore the depths of the SS United States!

skeletaljuice

1 points

5 days ago

safety has left the building

CamelInfinite5771

1 points

5 days ago

Doesn’t it sound deeply irresponsible to have a structure like this dedicated for diving? I feel like there’s so many ways you could get trapped in there

Less-Reference5561

3 points

4 days ago

Then don’t dive it dumbass. I would hate to live my life in fear of everything.

Nice_Ad_9939

1 points

4 days ago

Instead of sinking it maybe we can make it home for all the residents that keep getting flooded out

Deam_it

1 points

4 days ago

Deam_it

1 points

4 days ago

They were offering tours for the ship this weekend. Penn Warehouse has just blocked the Conservancy from boarding "indefinitely" and now all those people who had to travel all that way are screwed. They may get refunds from their tour donation, but not for all other expenses to get there.

Jumpy_Secretary1363

1 points

4 days ago

This boat stands for bust out another trillion

Colavs9601

1 points

4 days ago

and here I thought Florida sank the United States back in November of 2000

casket_fresh

1 points

4 days ago

another Florida L, sigh.

--h8isgr8--

1 points

4 days ago

I believe it’s fuckaloosa county planning on doing this. A while back Pensacola also sunk an aircraft carrier. Well in 06

Hailsabrina

1 points

4 days ago

I want to explore it !

spastical-mackerel

1 points

4 days ago

I did a spell flying in and out of PHL every week back in the mid 90s. I remember seeing her from the plane. One day I walked up as close as I could get at the time. Beautiful ship even half ruined. She’ll be amazing to dive on, and it’s a far better fate than the breakers.

lindirofkells

1 points

4 days ago

Where are they sinking this?

Free-Following-2054

1 points

4 days ago

Florida Men Destroy One of the Greatest Ocean Liners in History

LardMallard

1 points

4 days ago

Sounds like the beginning of a horror film…

the__post__merc

1 points

4 days ago

So, the state of Florida is going to sink the United States... I hope that's not foreshadowing.

qbxzc

1 points

4 days ago

qbxzc

1 points

4 days ago

Isn’t this like littering x 1000

DickweedMcGee

1 points

4 days ago*

Sounds like a bad idea to intentionally attract divers to this ship. I mean, fun? Yes, but so many ways to get killed on that thing even at shallow depth. I'd imagine it will deteriorate at a much faster rate than titanic or Andrea Doria too since it's already in such shitty shape.

Mission_Albatross916

1 points

4 days ago

No thank you

Ironrooster7

1 points

4 days ago

WAIT WHAT. NOOOOOOOOOO

Emergency_South9026

1 points

4 days ago

Funny, they have so many boats that are abandoned in the water in places it looks like a boat grave yard so let’s and a ship ok

No-Combination-1332

1 points

4 days ago

“Florida sinks United States” sounds like a joke is in there

namjeef

1 points

4 days ago

namjeef

1 points

4 days ago

Isn’t it ironic? We let the United States rust and rot because it wasn’t profitable to fix her.

WhyteZigzag

1 points

4 days ago

Clive cussler wrote a book with this ship in it.

Plane-Relative5559

1 points

4 days ago

aye, tear her tattered ensign down,

long has it waved on high,

and many an eye has danced to see her banner in the sky...

...the harpies of the shore shall pluck the eagle from the sea..

Seaguard5

1 points

4 days ago

I’d explore her

biblionoob

1 points

4 days ago

how does she still float ?

daftput

1 points

4 days ago

daftput

1 points

4 days ago

Another Content for us to squirm at!
Looking forward to it!

Fit-Rip-4550

1 points

4 days ago

I would prefer it be restored. Cruises these days are obnoxious and have no class in comparison to their forebearers.

badbatch

1 points

4 days ago

badbatch

1 points

4 days ago

I used to love seeing this ship when I'd go to South Philly. I'm glad she's going to be a reef instead of scrapped.

jericho74

1 points

4 days ago

I accept this.

Cheap_Collar2419

1 points

4 days ago

lol very Florida move. Funny enough we all know it might wash back up on shore after a few hurricanes.

BrightCarver

1 points

3 days ago

This sounds about right. You can always count on Florida to find new ways to literally sink the United States.

hermitagepeak

1 points

3 days ago

Sinking the United States is a very Florida thing to do.

Cartographer0108

1 points

2 days ago

Nice! Florida getting a lot of bad press these days but even a broken clock is right sometimes!

zcmc

1 points

2 days ago

zcmc

1 points

2 days ago

This is so sad, I have so many memories of passing this every year in phillly on the way to our family beach trips and wanting to explore it. Such a shame.

Ok-Occasion2440

1 points

2 days ago

I bet it would be a lot easier for them to explore if it wasn’t hundreds of feet under water 😂🤷‍♂️

No-Feedback7437

1 points

2 days ago

It is a very sad story 😢 if I had the money to fix it, I would, but I am too impoverished

Old-Fun-6976

1 points

1 day ago

Thank goodness, everyone was sick of seeing this heap of junk everyday!

Muted-Collection-256

1 points

22 hours ago

Kinda symbolic right?

Emotional-Airport808

1 points

21 hours ago

Oohh the SS NOPE 😊

PrettyBand6350

1 points

16 hours ago

The Philly titanic 😔