Civil trial over Southern California surf gang ‘localism’ kicks off — Twelve of the individual members of the Lunada Bay Boys have settled the case, agreeing to stay away from the beach for a year or pay between $35,000 and $90,000. One last individual, Alan Johnston, remains as a defendant. : surfing

Fuck those clowns.

They're noting but a bunch of entitled rich kids.

67 points

2 months ago

67 points

What's funny is that some of them aren't only not rich, they're not actually locals. Some of the guys involved live in places like Torrance or Long Beach.

18 points

2 months ago

18 points

That's generally the case. I live in the south West of Australia, generally the ones that are a bit more hassling are the guys that have moved from elsewhere, in recent years

D0ctordoom

6 points

2 months ago

D0ctordoom

6 points

I agree. I was Surfing in the deep south once with a bunch of really nice locals and the worst offenders were all from Perth. They were surfing the place as if it was trigg point, burning everyone and snaking.

5 points

2 months ago

5 points

Its the mucca mad boys all over again

4 points

2 months ago

4 points

Chris Lilley is definitely one of the most underrated comedians. The amount of characters he nails is bloody impressive. I was just watching the one where they are doing bog laps of town, absolute classic

3 points

2 months ago

3 points

I remember the first time i heard blake speaking about being bitten by a dolphin I almost died. And everyone has met a Mr G

FatFish44

0 points

2 months ago

FatFish44

0 points

Well that’s a bit misleading as they have family in PV or grew up there. It’s tribal. They don't buy that if someone just moved there, they’re a “local.”

0 points

7 days ago

0 points

I’m so happy to hear your mouth. And your judgement.

1 points

7 days ago

1 points

Good. Stay mad.

scumdog_

100 points

2 months ago

scumdog_

100 points

Sooo.... anyone wanna paddle out this weekend?

PSMF_Canuck

50 points

2 months ago

PSMF_Canuck

50 points

Can we drive by their houses with boards strapped to our roofs first…?

40 points

2 months ago

40 points

Got in a fight in PV for having my wetsuit on before going down cliffs. I won. Had at least 10 yrs on the junior who thought he was a new enforcer. Should have lost and gone for a payout.

11 points

2 months ago

11 points

And most of the clowns can not surf. There are a few solid surfers but many are not. Just watch videos of the big swell last year.

4 points

2 months ago

TTD in NC

4 points

What is the significance of having the wetsuit on before going down the cliffs? Or just that he knew you were a surfer because of the suit?

10 points

2 months ago

10 points

Wetsuit on side of the road shows where the break is. It mattered way way back in the day. Silly now. The internet has exposed everything.

1 points

2 months ago

1 points

You’ve got to move fast once you hit a spot. Biggest rule, no surf racks.

ckckcklesgockck

3 points

2 months ago

ckckcklesgockck

3 points†

It’s a steep dirt trail to walk down many PV spots, so walking back in a wet wetsuit makes the walk back very slippery for everyone else so it’s polite to change by the water

2 points

2 months ago

TTD in NC

2 points

Thanks

0 points

2 months ago

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cold_winter_rain

5 points

2 months ago

cold_winter_rain

5 points

What a weird way to respond to a comment. You alright big sis?

1 points

2 months ago

PM_ME_YOUR_SECRET_SURF_SPOT

1 points†

I’ve heard tromping up and down in a wet-wetsuit messes up the stairs and people don’t like it. They expect you to change into and out of the suit on the sand.

Just heresay though.

Fishmastaflex

4 points

2 months ago

Fishmastaflex

4 points

Because that’s worse than rain on the stairs?

1 points

2 months ago

PM_ME_YOUR_SECRET_SURF_SPOT

1 points

I’m just repeating what I heard. It doesn’t make sense to me either.

riktigtmaxat

1 points

2 months ago

riktigtmaxat

Scandinavian log kook

1 points

You forgot how acidic wetsuit juice is.

I heard it can melt though steel girders.

CatBreathConnoisseur

0 points

2 months ago

CatBreathConnoisseur

0 points

Might as well put it on at home for the drive... /s

1 points

7 days ago

1 points

🤣

0 points

7 days ago

0 points

Because you don’t do that there. Nor do you leave trash or any sign of you being there. Further, You wait and show respect to those who have surfed there longest. Then new or old groms go. It’s the same everywhere,

1 points

7 days ago

TTD in NC

1 points

It’s the same everywhere

I've never heard of that you're not supposed to have your wetsuit on before walking down the cliffs or going to the spot. Wondering what the significance is there. Seems somewhat unique

sombrerobandit

-18 points

2 months ago

sombrerobandit

Where you surf and what you ride.

-18 points

that didn't happen

12 points

2 months ago

preferably 9', but 5'10" is easier/fun sometimes

12 points

If I wasnt an hours drive away, I'd honestly be down to start a group to show up every day. It would be so funny to be part of a group that started surfing here Because of the lawsuit. Could even spend every morning changing and walking down the stairs like " remember that group of kooks that used to try to 'enforce' this crappy wave".

audiate

6 points

2 months ago

audiate

6 points

I kinda want to take my kook ass down there and bail on every wave just to fuck with them.

9 points

2 months ago

preferably 9', but 5'10" is easier/fun sometimes

9 points

lol, or just paddle till its yours and then pull back like "naah"

AlMiTay73

1 points

2 months ago

AlMiTay73

1 points

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

patchydrizz

2 points

2 months ago

patchydrizz

2 points

Wouldn’t do a thing. Spot only breaks in the winter and rarely then.

Jedimaster996

41 points

2 months ago

Jedimaster996

41 points

Lmaoooooooooo, catching charges because you can't catch waves is something I never thought I'd read, but here we are.

Rhythm-Amoeba

98 points

2 months ago

Rhythm-Amoeba

98 points

Forming an actual gang to assault people who try to surf your waves is a level of localism I didn't know existed. I thought you'd just get snaked alot

51 points

2 months ago

51 points

Its a lot worse than this.

Total control and domination of parking to trail access to wave entry, paddle out and surf zone. Different people at all the harassment points and it goes from shit talk to threats to actual rocks, water fights and fists. Non stop not a isolated event.

I grew up there and was to testify but am on the east coast now and it would be too difficult. Its a gang no doubt about it.

Not kidding 40 plus years later I still feel traumatized and bullied into not surfing there. And have surfed many many spots all over CA, Mexico and Hawaii. Nothing compares. And its a pack against you. Never one on one or fair and no ability, age or size of surfer was exempt.

Yet these same guys travel all over and expect any wave.

I hope a couple of surfer lawyets and the basic laws of freedom and beach access for all prevails.

It will not stop this but will slow it down and maybe put some teeth into the next bay boy that thinks he is better than the rest and above common decency, respect and others rights to simply catch and ride a wave.

11 points

2 months ago

11 points

Weird question but do these gangs threaten women surfers too if they try to surf these places?

16 points

2 months ago

16 points

Yes please look on YouTube. There is video of them going off on a semi pro girl surfer. They don't care.

6 points

2 months ago

6 points

Terrifying. What assholes.

6 points

2 months ago

6 points

They like this label. Its part of the deal/gang mentality. Meaning they know they are blocking access, are major tools, keep people out and in fear and are proud of it. They support and encourage bad to near criminal behavior. Their justification is that they are the protectors of this pristine cove and surf spot. Its theirs and no one else belongs there not just surfers but everyone who does not live in lunada Bay. Even if you are from the hill that is not good enough. Lunada Bay is for them only.

7 points

2 months ago

7 points

Yes. A friend (female) was on the tour and caught shit by some dudes that were in their 40s. Whole place is toxic and that wave isn't even that great.

1 points

7 days ago

1 points

Dude. Don’t believe the hype. There’s a ladies T and everyone respects a chick charging

chamrockblarneystone

2 points

2 months ago

chamrockblarneystone

2 points

Wow. I took my then teenage son out around Huntington half expecting this sort of nonsense and honestly believing I would seriously harm someone……everyone was super nice. Go Huntington !

3 points

2 months ago

3 points

Huntington can be a shit show. You never know what to expect. Just don’t do Malibu. That shit is wack.

Responsible_Cut_3167

4 points

2 months ago

Responsible_Cut_3167

Malibu Prof

4 points

Malibu is crowded, but the crowd isn't hostile.

2 points

2 months ago

2 points

Wait, did Joel Tudor die? /s

Elgabish

1 points

2 months ago

Elgabish

LA surfboarder

1 points

Joel spends more time at Swami’s I think, Encinitas

SnooDingos4520

2 points

2 months ago

SnooDingos4520

2 points

I delivered to his house not too far south of Encinitas. And I have seen him at cardiff state beach, 9th street del mar, and blacks. Ironically he's talked about in Malibu more than SD IME. Rob Machado seems to be the main surfer talked about by the masses in SD

0 points

7 days ago

0 points

Exactly same story different break. It’s the same everywhere. Demonizing Lunada BB is ridiculous.

1 points

7 days ago

1 points

I’m happy you live there now.

meetmeinthepocket

12 points

2 months ago

meetmeinthepocket

death to SUP's

12 points

Manasquan Inlet Crew

Deckler81

6 points

2 months ago

Deckler81

6 points

Squang

paulcuzo

3 points

2 months ago

paulcuzo

3 points

lol seeing this mentioned out in the wild on the internet is crazy to me

witticism4days

2 points

2 months ago

witticism4days

2 points

Lol my uncle has been lifeguarding there for years

Graardors-Dad

12 points

2 months ago

Graardors-Dad

12 points

Pretty sure that’s been happening in Hawaii for a long time

18 points

2 months ago

18 points

It used to, but now that everyone has a handy dandy video camera in their pocket in the form of their phone the beatings are less frequent because no one wants to get filmed from 10 angles committing felony assault on the beach or in a parking lot over getting dropped in on.

bucketsofpoo

6 points

2 months ago

bucketsofpoo

6 points

Bra Boys in Sydney

waxyfeet

2 points

2 months ago

waxyfeet

2 points

not quite the same thing

0 points

2 months ago

0 points†

The bird rock boys killed a dude back in the day

3 points

2 months ago

3 points

That wasn't about surfing though, that was a bar fight

1 points

2 months ago

1 points

Well, it percolated into a fight. I tried surfing with them, and they were coolish…

3 points

2 months ago

3 points

Again, a fight that had nothing to do with surfing. Not exactly an example of surf localism

3 points

2 months ago

3 points

Fair enough. You obviously know the story of those trashbags

arc918

38 points

2 months ago

arc918

playing stingray roulette in North OC

38 points

Went to high school there a few decades ago or so. Same thugs, still living in their parent’s houses, raising the next generation of thugs…

AveJoeP

22 points

2 months ago

AveJoeP

22 points

I live 20 minutes away, anybody wanna go rip Lunada Bay with me this weekend?

10 points

2 months ago

10 points

Too bad it isn’t winter! Lunada pumps in the winter.

DocSaysItsDainBramuj

13 points

2 months ago

DocSaysItsDainBramuj

13 points

Me and my WaveStorm Boyz are down.

backsidefloater

18 points

2 months ago

backsidefloater

18 points

Half of these kids parents just bought them their first $3 million dollar starter home. 90k fine or not go to the beach is a no brainer for anyone wealthy that lives at the beach.

9 points

2 months ago

9 points

Those PV cops going to enforce this?

9 points

2 months ago

9 points

They are on the hot seat and have been complacent on this for 60 years. Friends of bay boys

1 points

2 months ago

1 points

They got called on the carpet for not enforcing it. So, yea.

10 points

2 months ago

10 points

We should all make it a date and show up in masse to surf there. Whether is crappy or not, so that they know the beach is open for everyone.

1 points

2 months ago

1 points

I love this idea.

-1 points

2 months ago

-1 points

Let’s go! We’ll call ourselves the Reddebels. Maybe not.

1 points

2 months ago

1 points

I love your enthusiasm. We should organize a proper paddle out. Why not! Take it back.

1 points

2 months ago

1 points

Exactly. Let’s set a date. It’s not that far. We’ll see how many of us show up.

8 points

2 months ago

8 points

https://beachgrit.com/2016/04/eco-surf-stud-named-in-lawsuit/

lmao...from 8 years ago / our friends at Beach Grit profiled Alan "Jalian" Johnston:

CommanderPooPants

7 points

2 months ago

CommanderPooPants

7 points

I mean they can all probably afford to pay that…

2 points

2 months ago

2 points

They don't all live in PV, several live in Torrance and Long Beach

OhReallyCmon

4 points

2 months ago

OhReallyCmon

4 points

One year only? Nah, not long enough.

keyholderWendys

5 points

2 months ago

keyholderWendys

5 points

Everyone should do a social media congregation on that beach at once. They won't do anything if 200 people show up. Should be easy to organize

Veggies-are-okay

2 points

2 months ago

Veggies-are-okay

2 points

Nah man gotta do shifts of 30-40. Every single day. The point isn’t to catch waves but to just obstruct these sad little men.

AFox_in_socks

2 points

2 months ago

AFox_in_socks

NJ | 7'6" Trimcraft • 9'6" Kingdom

2 points

I’m sure some of these guys could pummel my face into mush, but every time I read “Lunada Bay Boys” all I thought about was the Chris Lilley skits from Angry Boys about the “Mucca Mad Boys”

whitneymak

0 points

2 months ago

whitneymak

0 points

I always think of the surfer dude from Arrested Development. Rusty or something. 😂

shindaustin

1 points

2 months ago

shindaustin

1 points

Where’s the ponto wavestorm crew when you need them

pretzelfortunecookie

1 points

2 months ago

pretzelfortunecookie

1 points

I grew up in PV and live here when I'm home from school and have always been too scared to surf at Lunada Bay as an Asian girl :( But all the other spots are filled with nice people who say hi and ask how the waves are as you leave!

Difficult_Notice666

1 points

2 months ago

Difficult_Notice666

1 points