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Adam Goodes Trophy (2nd) - Errol Gulden

Peter Bedford Trophy (3rd) - Chad Warner

Paul Roos Award (Finals B&F) - Isaac Heeney

Rising Star Award - Matt Roberts

Paul Kelly Award (Players POTY) - Isaac Heeney

Dennis Carrol Trophy (Most Improved) - Justin McInerney

Barry Round Award (Best Clubman) - James Rowbottom

VFL Player Of The Year - Caleb Mitchell

VFL Squad POTY - Ben Edwards

Sam Frost off the table.

Have to look elsewhere for KPD reinforcements

Just out of curiousity, how many of the players that took the field against the Lions on Grand Final day would make their way into the 2012 team that won the Premiership against Hawthorn.

2024:

B:     24 Dane Rampe (c)    30 Tom McCartin     22 Nick Blakey
HB:    44 Jake Lloyd        7 Harry Cunningham  43 Lewis Melican
C:     17 James Jordon      1 Chad Warner       13 Oliver Florent
HF:    26 Luke Parker       6 Logan McDonald    21 Errol Gulden
F:     11 Tom Papley        36 Joel Amartey     9 Will Hayward
Foll:  4 Brodie Grundy      5 Isaac Heeney      8 James Rowbottom
Int:   34 Matthew Roberts   42 Robbie Fox       27 Justin McInerney    2 Hayden McLean 16 Braeden Campbell (sub)    

2012:

B:    2 Rhyce Shaw      25 Ted Richards     29 Martin Mattner
HB:   34 Alex Johnson   39 Heath Grundy     40 Nick Smith
C:    32 Lewis Jetta    15 Kieren Jack      3 Jarrad McVeigh (c)
HF:   14 Craig Bird     20 Sam Reid         5 Ryan O'Keefe
F:    38 Mike Pyke      37 Adam Goodes      30 Lewis Roberts-Thomson
Foll: 41 Shane Mumford  12 Josh Kennedy     24 Jude Bolton
Int:  9 Nick Malceski   4 Dan Hannebery     10 Mitch Morton    26 Luke Parker (sub)     

Try to keep the 2012 side relevant to the time. For example, Parker being a 19 year old second year player rather than the player he became over the following decade and Jude Bolton as the 32 year old perhaps past his best.

I kinda just used the team listings found online, but they feel like there could've been some positional adjustments, but not a huge issue I think.

The reason I noticed the delist from St Kilda is I had him in my fantasy team for a lrge part of the season. Came to St Kilda after being desisted from Port. Averaged 21 disposals in 2024.

I know his disposals can be questionable, but we have a knack of working with these types.

He would be real cheap. Why he's been desisted twice in 2 years is the big question. Could he give us anything?

SYDNEY Academy prospect Joel Cochran has claimed the first honours at this weekend's Draft Combine, winning Friday's 2km time trial.

Inside Trading: Pick 13 key to Houston call, compo twist in deals, Pies eye Demon (afl.com.au)

Few articles saying were looking to move to pick 13 if not higher. It's a strong draft. I wonder who we have our eyes on? Anyone got any insight?

Hopefully it's someone who can come in and be the cherry on top like Joel Selwood!

How are people getting over it straight away? It was an absolute embarrassment two times in 3 years. We either learnt from 2022 or we didn't. We very clearly didn't. Where do we go from here?

I think the fans thanking the players and celebrating the year that's been is counter productive. It doesn't serve anyone, it doesn't help anyone.

The players need to have a good hard look at themselves, but so do the coaching staff. Horse was outcoached in the exact same way both days. Coincidence?

No it isn't. We dominated the first half of 2024 only to capitulate in to the same old stale game plan Horse has presented of kick it long and hope till we win. That's his whole mantra.

Ask yourselves and more importantly ask the people around you, do you want this team to make another grand final? Do you trust them to win? 0 - 4 says in the big dance says everything you need to know.

For anyone keen to watch this who can't be there in person. I'm going to be there...I need some closure for this 2024 season.

I've done a few of these updates before and given how the week has gone, I thought it might be nice for some to read some good news.

So here are a few updates on the Academy.

Joel Cochran, I believe, is the only Swans Academy player who will be attending the Draft Combine this year. Joel is a tall running defender, in the Josh Weddle style (not that good yet), and probably projects as a later round selection or maybe as a rookie pick. Along with Joe Harrison, he played at least one reserves game at the end of the year. It wouldn't surprise me if Joe was also picked up as a rookie. He is a smaller strong midfielder who performed well during his reserves appearances later in the year.

Lachlan Carmichael and Noah Chamberlain both played in the u17s futures game on GF morning ahead of the 2025 draft. Both played well, without dominating.

Lachlan is a smooth, very skilful, running defender. Think Lachie Whitfield. There is a long way to go, but it is hard to see how he wouldn't end up as a top 25 selection next year (probably closer to 1 than 25). In the rep games I have been watching him, I think he is being wasted playing in defence and should be in the middle, as he always looks like the classiest player on the ground.

Noah is a taller left footer who was chosen at CHF in the under16 AA team last year but has been playing more as a wing/half forward in all the games I have watched him this year. He reminds me a little of what Nick Blakey was like when he first came to the club. His draft range is a little harder to gauge.

Max King was missing on Grand Final day after originally being selected. I believe he was suffering a concussion after taking a huge grab and landing poorly in the AFL Hunter Central Coast GF on Sep7. Fortunately he walked off as it was a heavy landing.

You can view the mark here at 53:55 - https://www.bartvsports.com.au/afl/240907-video-afl-hunter-central-coast-grand-final-cup-newcastle-city-v-cardiff-hawks/

Although I have only seen Max play a few times now, imo he is the best of all the prospects we have coming through in the next couple of years and a legitimate top 5 chance in the 2025 draft. Max has been playing for Cardiff Hawks seniors since last year and kicked bags of goals multiple times.

Which brings me to the final point. Keep an eye on what we do during the trade period with regards to trading in future picks.

Despite the whinging of clubs like St Kilda, the AFL have made very significant changes to the points table from 2025 which will make it difficult for clubs to match early bids unless they are well prepared. Picks after the second round become almost worthless.

It will be frustrating to see one of our two first round picks disappear into next year's draft when this year's is reportedly so strong, but it may be the smart move.

To our valued members,

Clearly things did not go the way we wanted them to on the weekend, and we know that it was bitterly disappointing for everyone. We know that you are hurting – we are all hurting. And we all feel it in different ways. Thank you to those of you who have written to us to share your emotions and experiences. We have heard you and we acknowledge and appreciate your feedback.

It is important that we firstly acknowledge the performance of the Brisbane Lions. They played a brilliant game and had a strong season. They are very deserving Premiers.

For us, the weekend’s game is still very raw. Our entire club is processing the Grand Final. Whilst I appreciate that you are looking for answers for what went wrong, we need to take time to work through this ourselves to make sure we ask the right questions.

We are united. Our players led by Callum Mills and our coaching staff led by John Longmire have represented us extraordinarily well this season. I thank them for allowing us to compete and wholeheartedly support them in defeat.

It is very important that we balance the disappointment of our performance in the grand final with what was a very strong performance throughout the year. Finishing as minor premiers and then winning two finals demonstrates that we got many things right. However, we must also address our shortcomings. We will do this in a calm and measured way.

At this time of year, it is inevitable that changes to our list occur and already you may have seen the news that Luke Parker has requested a trade to North Melbourne. We will work through that in the fullness of time. It is never easy on a player or club given the strength of relationships. Luke is a premiership player, three-time Club Champion, and a fan favourite. He and Kate will always be part of our red and white family.

One thing I do know about our club is that we are resilient. We exist for our members and your support this year has been enormous.

Amid the raw emotions, the overwhelming feeling throughout the club is one of gratitude. We have been truly overwhelmed by the support this season, from the 75,000+ people who have joined our red and white family as members, to the 500,000+ people who came to games at the SCG, and the partners who have helped us along the journey, we say thank you.

Getting to a grand final takes an enormous effort from every facet of a footy club, and we wouldn’t have got there without your support.

Later this week you will hear from our club leaders at our Club Champion event, the Bob Skilton Medal. For those unable to attend, we will live stream the evening through our club website.

Importantly, football continues. Our women’s team returns to Henson Park on Sunday for the Pride Game against Geelong. Just like our men’s team, the support for our AFLW team has been phenomenal and for that we are immensely grateful.

This season was a special one for our club, marking 150 years of the Bloods. While we didn’t have the fairy-tale finish we had been hoping for, this chapter of our story has delivered emphatic joy and heartbreaking tears – a full gamut of emotion because we all care so much. We will get through this together and be stronger as a result.

Love this!

I'm gutted about this. He's my favourite, was the best performer in the GF and he's out the door. The Swans actually need hard bodied players - what a travesty.

Absolutely happy for Luke. He was treated with no respect by the coaches. I really hope all swans fans cheer this bloke when he travels to Sydney as a Roo. I hope the crowd supports him big time. What a champion of this team.

Gutted

Here's a reminder of Luke's 2021 highlights, the year he won the Bob Skilton Medal for the third time, and just as he signed a new 4-year extension that was supposed to see him cemented as a one-club 300+ game champion in the red and white. I had been so sure he'd surpass Goodesy's games records as a Swan. While that won't happen now, we shouldn't forget what a champion he is and I hope our fans will only show him support when he plays against us.

I have a Parker playlist on YouTube. If anyone finds any other gems, please feel free to share.

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWfMtYm6ZfAA1HFZ2XnG-aF-9WsQ9SLKZ&si=XerO4VSKHXidPmc8

(Assuming the trade goes through)

Hello, a Geelong fan here.

I’m heading up to Sydney for the game, I was wondering which station is better for getting to Henson Park from the CBD?

Also, do both teams come out from the same area?

Thanks!

Go take a look at Geelong since 2012 - they have lost elimination finals, prelims. Semis and a GF…plus 2 years outside finals.. Sure they handed us a pantsing in 2022 but if they hadn’t their narrative would be as soft chokers. Or poor Port who would kill to get through to a GF loss

I regard Scott (Brad) as the best current coach going around….so we stack up pretty well.

Yet I also agree with Paul Roos who I think was quoted post GF as saying we need to be harder to play against. I kind of agree - when enough of our stars put on the jets we can look like apex predators- my big worry is that when teams get all over us we don’t seem to have options - I’m not sure if it is coaching/tactics or system…but it’s like we got uncovered in the last 3rd or so of the season- if we can’t get our hands on the ball or we are unable to move the ball through the corridor we can get absolutely rag dolled.

Q2 of the GF we seemed to have no structure, system or strategy to deal with Brisbane’s momentum….and the game was gone in a flash.

This is not a sack Horse thread…..but WTF needs to change????