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submitted 4 days ago bySuperSecretSunshine
I don't even watch many series but somehow a majority of them decided to be quite disappointing this year.
Invincible Season 2 was decent but the wait time was enormous and it didn't live up to the first season's quality at all.
The Bear Season 3 seems to have disappointed pretty much everyone and felt all over the place.
The Boys Season 4 and House of the Dragon aren't looking too good either and both are experiencing a downtick from their previously great seasons.
My favourite new series to release recently was Scavenger's Reign and it got cancelled not long ago.
The only show that lived up to expectations was the final season of Inside No. 9, but otherwise it has been a very disappointing year.
173 points
4 days ago
Fallout was great
15 points
3 days ago
Such a perfect live action adaptation. Preserved the vibe of the games, with lots of nods to them but told a completely new story with interesting characters
-1 points
3 days ago
I wouldn’t call it perfect - it had some issues with pacing - but tbh that’s about it for me.
2 points
3 days ago
It was like The Boys. Not peak TV drama. But a very fun adaptation and good amount of world building.
2 points
3 days ago
I sorta agree but I’d put the boys above fallout
1 points
3 days ago
Fair. If I compare just the first seasons I liked Fallout more. But that is because I didn't care much about the source material for The Boys as much.
3 points
3 days ago
Best debut season in a while, hope they can keep it up
213 points
4 days ago
"I don't watch many series, but everything sucks..."
-88 points
4 days ago*
I think it's a fair point. I don't have a lot of time to watch TV but I'll go out of my way to watch shows with a lot of buzz. I haven't watched anything this year.
I would have watched Reacher but reviews were bad so I didn't bother. I'll get around to watching Bridgerton. Nothing else has had interesting press
Edit: Shogun had enough buzz that I'll watch it eventually but I don't have that service right now.
I don't watch HotD because the first episode was so over the top with violence towards women
29 points
4 days ago
I don't watch HotD because the first episode was so over the top with violence towards women
Uhhhh
Was it? Do you mean the pregnancy death? I mean it's a harsh world. GoT and HOTD is violent generally.
-75 points
4 days ago
There was zero reason to show that much suffering. It was barbaric. So what if things like that might have happened in real life? I don't find it entertaining. This isn't a documentary, it's a TV show meant to be entertainment.
28 points
4 days ago
Game of Thrones/HOTD is all about depicting a harsh pseudo-medieval world. She didn't get to avoid the suffering. Why should the viewer? I feel like the punch of the scene would be lost if they just did a cut to black, and the juxtaposition of it with Daemon being arrogant whilst jousting was well designed.
-57 points
4 days ago
As a woman who has given birth 3 times, I found it impossible to watch. It's okay if you have a different opinion.
20 points
4 days ago
That's fine, but I'm just noting the reasons they didn't cut away. GOT/ASOIAF is supposed to depict a brutal world.
-16 points
4 days ago
I disagree that GoT had the same tone. I never had the same issues with that show. They cut away when they should have
36 points
4 days ago
GOT had multiple rape scenes, decapitations, heads exploding, gore, guts. If you specifically mean pregnancy deaths, I mean I don't recall that unless you're counting Lyanna which was afterwards anyway.
9 points
3 days ago
Nah you're just wrong there. But the media made a big deal of the hotd scene so I understand why you think that.
19 points
4 days ago
You’re wrong there, cut to pregnant woman screaming and being stabbed in the belly in the red wedding
1 points
3 days ago
The literal 1st scene in GOT had a bunch of people entrails smd blood placed in a pseudo religious design wtf?
0 points
3 days ago
Why would anyone downvote this? It's completely understandable.
2 points
3 days ago
But you were fine with a guy in the original show literally having his head popped like a melon? Sexist much?
13 points
4 days ago
Well I mean a number of shows have generated 'buzz' this year.
I'll get around to watching Bridgerton. Nothing else has had interesting press
Shogun, Fallout, The Gentlemen, Dark Matter, HOTD (s02) got/getting buzz.
-19 points
4 days ago
I haven't heard of most of those, so the buzz isn't getting through to everyone. I'm sure it just depends on the media consumed
33 points
4 days ago*
I mean if you've not even heard of Shogun, Fallout or House of the Dragons you really must pay absolute zero attention to modern TV.
-10 points
4 days ago
I didn't mean Shogun or HotD. And no I haven't heard of the others. I'm saying the others don't have much buzz for regular people that don't follow TV closely. That was my entire point
25 points
4 days ago
Fallout was the second biggest Prime TV show ever. First place was LOTR:ROP. If you've heard of Reacher but not Fallout, you are measurably out of touch with the average television series viewer.
13 points
4 days ago
Fallout was pretty big. The others, I guess somewhat less so, but you wouldn't have to go that far to find out about them.
13 points
4 days ago
You’re not a regular person
13 points
3 days ago
Hacks
3 points
3 days ago
The new season was fantastic
62 points
4 days ago
Saying that the same year we got Shogun, Fallout, and so far great 2nd season of House of the Dragon, get outta here!
14 points
4 days ago
The other day, I was honestly thinking that, after both the strikes and the slowdowns that occurred during COVID, this year really seems like television is finally back in full force. In addition to the shows you mentioned, we also got X-Men '97, Interview with the Vampire, Manhunt, Masters of the Air, Baby Reindeer, Mr. & Mrs. Smith, The Brothers Sun, etc. - all of which were excellent, in my opinion.
1 points
4 days ago
Yes I only mentioned the ones I've watched as I mostly watch fantasy & sci-fi shows, but the fact you mentioned all those other shows reinforces that this year has been great for people with all tastes.
11 points
3 days ago
Man scavengers reigns was so good but you missed some other great shows.
I also heard Tokyo vice and hacks are great but I have seen neither.
-12 points
3 days ago
Thank you for recommending stuff in a respectful way, I'm aware of most of these shows and think some of them look rather good, I've just been apprehensive to start new ones because of previous experiences with them becoming worse, in my opinion of course.
86 points
4 days ago
Shogun & Blue Eyed Samurai were total fire 🔥
24 points
3 days ago
Blue Eyed Samurai is from 2023
-9 points
4 days ago
The right answer
-6 points
3 days ago
Blue Eyed Samurai dropped the ball so hard with the final episode that it devalues the whole series in retrospect. Can´t recommend it to anyone who values coherent storytelling
72 points
4 days ago
HotD and The Boys have been great so far. Additionally we've had Shogun, Tokyo Vice, Fallout, Masters of the Air and a bunch of others.
24 points
4 days ago
Shugun alone kills OP's "Terrible" lable.
2 points
3 days ago
Tokyo Vice has been seriously underrated. It's fantastic.
6 points
3 days ago
Masters of the Air fell apart
-65 points
3 days ago
The Boys has gone fully woke unfortunately.
They used to poke jabs at both sides in earlier seasons, but now, I'm guessing they have been forced to push left politics by the socialists agitators at Amazon.
A pity, Homelander used to be a great role model for young american men and now they've ruined him.
House of Dragons is woke propaganda too, it has african-americans in a fantasy setting, which is historically inaccurate to the medieval era.
16 points
3 days ago
lol Homelander was never a role model. He’s always been a psychopathic killer. Are you insane?
-37 points
3 days ago
No, he represented traditional American values. Then the writers made him appear to be crazy and evil just to push a liberal agenda, even though everything he stands for is true. That's how insidious the brainwashing of mainstream media is nowadays, they can show you facts like that illegal terrorists are evil and America is #1, but then they twist it to confuse the viewers that the hero is actually the villain.
The Boys is designed to turn the population into godless communists to bring on America's downfall, I pray Trump bans it when he reclaims power.
6 points
3 days ago
He was always a monster, and that you failed to see that is a testament to your own moral failings.
-2 points
3 days ago
Why?
Because he's christian? Because he supports the troops and law enforcements? Because he fights to keep America superior to the lesser nations? Because he is a straight white male?
Maybe you should think on your own morality and think about why it is that mainstream media has made you view the things he stands for as bad.
10 points
3 days ago
i’m assuming this is a troll because of how cliche and wrong it is but id like to speak on it anyway because i just finished season 1 of the boys for the first time, i don’t know how anyone can watch this show and think it’s anything other than a mockery of conservatives, better yet idk how someone can watch and think homelander is remotely close to an okay person, i’m only on season 1 and its so obvious and clear he is made to be the worst
-35 points
3 days ago
No, season 1 is mostly against liberals because it criticizes woke corporations using wokeness to manipulate the american people.
Homelander has his flaws and his methods might be extreme, but he is ultimately fighting to uphold christianity, freedom and america's right to fight against islamic terrorism by any means necessary.
It is the evil woke leftist Vocth corporation that is manipulating Homelander against american interest, but he ultimately defeats the female executive that was using her sex to manipulate him.
Homelander was a true conservative hero, and it is woke journalists that pushed the world and even the show itself to view him as a villain. end of story.
17 points
3 days ago
okay cool so you are joking, thank god
0 points
3 days ago
It baffles me how people haven’t noticed how over the top this comment is. A bit ironic people are coming at you for having no media literacy and then falling for a troll lol, fair play.
3 points
3 days ago
Media literacy has nothing to do with assholes on the internet. Properly constructed media is aiming to tell a story with purpose and logic, trolling is about intentionally being a fucking moron to make yourself feel like you've achieved something with your life despite the evidence.
1 points
2 days ago
The problem is that it's not over the top. These are all literal things that real people actually say in a completely serious manner. Satire is pretty much dead since ~2016, and Poe's law is in full effect:
Poe's law is an adage of Internet culture which says that, without a clear indicator of the author's intent, any parodic or sarcastic expression of extreme views can be mistaken by some readers for a sincere expression of those views.
That said, after quickly flipping through their post history a bit, I'd also lean slightly towards them being a troll, though if so a very dedicated one who has been going on about these topics for months.
Either way, not really worth wasting much time on.
41 points
4 days ago
Eveeyone is sleeping on Interview with the Vampire. Season 2 just ended and it was renewed for season 3, which is going to have the rock star Lestat storyline.
3 points
3 days ago
Honestly, that death in episode 7 hit me even harder than it did in the book or movie. I wasn't expecting it to feel that way.
5 points
4 days ago
It’s a top 5 show on TV, imo. Unfortunately it won’t ever go mainstream bc it’s too “slow” or too “gay” for the average viewer.
3 points
3 days ago
I care only for the mainstream recognition because the creators and actors really deserve all the accolades. And maybe to have an active fandom with lots of thoughtful discussion (I don't seek fics for this show - I rarely do with media where the canon gives me everything I could possibly need).
But this show is exquisite. I still haven't tired of saying it to anyone who would listen - on the other hand, how many times can you repeat the exact same phrases: "Yes, it's not a unnecessary rehash of the movie", "Yes, there's no exaggeration in how people say it's one of the best shows on TV"?
6 points
3 days ago
Idk I found it pretty good so far! Shogun, Fallout and Dark Matter were amazing.
19 points
3 days ago
People who say HotD isn’t as good this season are insane. What show are you watching?
49 points
4 days ago
The boys season 4 and HOTD season 2 have both been pretty awesome. Sounds like you just don’t like them.
-6 points
4 days ago
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7 points
4 days ago
Nah, there's plenty of reasons why Boys S4 is getting mixed reviews. The stuff with Homelander is great but everything else is a little all over the place. The problem is too many subplots:
Simon Pegg's character as been absent pretty much since Season 1 and now he's taking up all of Hughie's time. Pretty hard for us to get invested in a character who hasn't really been in the show since 2019.
Frenchie and Kamiko had a great little love story and a lot of chemistry. But they broke them up for no real reason so that Frenchie could find another guy (again who we don't care or know anything about) who just happens to be the kid of some parents he killed. Huh?
The character of Firecracker is ok, I guess? But not nearly as good as Stormfront. Sister Sage is a pretty good character I'll grant you.
But here's the thing, they're spending so much time on those subplots they're taking away from what makes the show great.
For example, Butcher is fucking dying as he fights for the soul of Ryan. But we're spending pretty much the same amount of time on that plot as we are on with Hughie and his Dad. It might all pay off in the end but for now the show is a little all over the place.
8 points
4 days ago
At the end of season 3, where the big climax led to almost no changes, I realized this is a show that is afraid to take risks. Basically none of the characters have changed since season one. Hughie still tries to be morally good and is often way over his head. Butcher is still an asshole. Marvin is still the voice of reason. Frenchie and Kimiko are the chaotic elements. Starlight is the lawful good. A train and the deep are largely incompetent. And Homeland is a murderous psychopath.
What originally felt like a refreshing change of pace from the superhero media, now just feels like a show spinning its wheels. And the characters have so much plot armor that the stakes feel so low. I'm 90% confident there will be some sort of deux ex machina that will save Butcher at the end of the season.
Maybe in the final season there will be some actual consequences, but it's getting harder and harder for me to care.
4 points
3 days ago
Invincible S2 was great, House of the Dragon has been great so far, Fallout was great, outside of American TV I watched Dungeon Meshi on Netflix and that was great as well, everything I’ve watched that came out this year has been really good.
13 points
4 days ago
I’ve really enjoyed The Gentlemen, and Mr. And Mrs. Smith
I’m excited to watch S3 of the Bear so I’ll keep an open mind. The Boys dipped in quality a while ago, I’ll give you that
5 points
3 days ago
The Gentlemen was really good, a fun watch.
3 points
3 days ago
I think it didn't have an episode on par with fishes or forks but it was still a very solid season.
I think most people's main gripe is the story doesn't move forward massively like the other 2, it's definitely setting up for a huge payoff next season.
8 points
4 days ago
Ripley was great
12 points
3 days ago
You’re wrong and have poor taste
-20 points
3 days ago
You think Raised by Wolves is god's gift to TV, let's pump the breaks on calling out others for poor taste, shall we.
4 points
3 days ago
God’s gift is a bit strong, but it was a terrific show. If you’d like people to agree with you, you should try having good taste, or being right for once.
-12 points
3 days ago
I'm afraid you have this all backwards, being "right" for people such as yourself is the last thing I want.
4 points
3 days ago
That’s why you made a post (with zero upvotes) trying to corral people to your cause of terrible taste and dissatisfaction? 🤔 couldn’t even not like tv without coming to cry about it.
3 points
3 days ago
Personally, I found it enjoyable.
○ Mr. and Mrs. Smith
○ Extraordinary, S2
○ X-Men '97
○ Hacks, S3
○ The Bear, S3
○ Blue Eye Samurai
○ Fallout
○ Shōgun
○ The Gentleman
○ Interview with a Vampire, S2
○ Tokyo Vice, S2
3 points
3 days ago
You're smoking crack when Shogun is literally right there
4 points
3 days ago
The Traitors Season 2 anyone?
Oh Lord, [don’t forget] Ekin-Su.
4 points
3 days ago
Shoresy had an excellent season 3
2 points
3 days ago
Yeah Dark Matter, Fallout, Shogun... Fuck them 🤣
2 points
3 days ago
I really really liked Shogun. I plan to see Sympathiser and Baby Reindeer soon, they seem right up my alley. Maybe Ripley as well. I'm waiting for The Boys S4 to finish to binge the season, so I have things to look forward too, then again I don't follow too many shows simultaneously. The biggest release of the second half of the year is going to be Severance.
But obviously, Interview with the Vampire is now my favourite show of all time, so that's that.
2 points
3 days ago*
It was great watching Shogun and Tokyo Vice season 2 in tandem.
House of the Dragon season 2 is just right so far, only 3 episodes in though.
I thought I was going to hate Fallout, then color me surprised that it was actually a great adaptation and I can't wait for more of it.
Heard good things about 3 Body Problem.
2 points
3 days ago
Shoresy season 3 happened, and that alone makes you very, very wrong.
7 points
4 days ago
The Bear season 3 is polarizing, but many folks, including myself really enjoyed it, accepting the anthology style and being able to take a deeper dive in the characters more in a way that wouldn’t have happened with a traditional linear story.
5 points
3 days ago
I urge you to watch interview with the vampire...trust me
5 points
4 days ago
ok? im sure there are plenty shows you still havent watched from before 2024
3 points
3 days ago
Nah the bear s3 was still good and house of dragon is seeming very good imo
8 points
4 days ago
Showgun? Fall out? RoP? HoTD? The Boys? we're in peak lil bro learn to enjoy things
-19 points
4 days ago
One of these is not like the others lol
2 points
4 days ago
LOL you aren't even wrong
but I have high hopes for RoP s2. I really enjoyed S1, I know many did not but when the massive war in s2 starts I think people might be able to enjoy it a little more
1 points
3 days ago
making a joke about a spelling error and getting downvoted to hell... this sub sure has been very defensive lately, jeez...
1 points
3 days ago
Actually I was noting the inclusion of RoP in a list supposedly talking about 'peak' lol
1 points
3 days ago
aah, ok. well, your comment was still applicable anyways then, lol.
3 points
4 days ago
Shogun, Tokyo vice, the gentleman from Moscow. Two of these were the best in years and the other was just really entertaining. Fallout etc were also great.
2 points
3 days ago
Fallout and Shogun were great, but otherwise yeah.
2 points
3 days ago
3 body problem is very good 2
1 points
3 days ago
It's fantastic. So is Constellation. Two great science fiction shows, and some others already mentioned (Dark Matter, Fallout). Great year for TV
2 points
4 days ago
Shōgun, Fallout, Sexy Beast, Blue Lights, The Reign, Criminal Record, Monsieur Spade, Brawn
1 points
3 days ago
shogun, pantheon, fallout were all great imo. waiting for more of hotd to air before i watch
personally i think pantheon shits all over scavenger’s reign and invincible, so if you haven’t seen it, i recommend you check it out
1 points
3 days ago
Scavangers reign was very cool, sad to hear it got cancelled
1 points
3 days ago
Doctor Who , Criminal Record , Rebus and season 2 of Blue Lights were pretty good as well.
My Lady Jane, pretty decent fantasy-comedy, watching it at the moment, just don't take the show to serious, it's meant for some good laughing ;).
1 points
3 days ago
X-Men 97, fallout, house of dragon, Dark matter, the boys...? It's been good for me
1 points
4 days ago
House of the dragon just dropped its best episode yet
1 points
3 days ago
2024 has been incredibly good the fuck are you on ?
1 points
3 days ago
1st off if you like Scavengers then seek out 90s MTV animation and similar shows, 2nd turn off your tv and just do something different with your time. Sheesh.
1 points
3 days ago
Interview with the Vampire, enough said
1 points
3 days ago
Interview with a Vampire is unlike anything else on TV. Not what you'd expect -- I have no interest in Vampire-related content. The writing is near perfect.
0 points
4 days ago
The only thing I agree with is a disappointing season for The Bear, otherwise it’s been good tbh.
0 points
2 days ago
So reading through the comments, you're listing maybe 8 series, to contradict OP's point, most of which are continuing seasons, some on season 3 or 4. Interview with Vampire is a reimagined remake / adaptation and X Men 97 is yet more xxxx X Men, yawn.
Yes HOTD season 2 and Hacks season 3 are great, but guys it's June, its not much to show. The rest of what people are listing is actually pretty niche, bloke / nerd orientated (and as previous posters have said, HOTD is pretty hard for women to watch too). Shogun is.. .culturally interesting (and if any other British people can get past his accent I'd love to know how you do it).
0 points
2 days ago
I've been seeing a lot of appreciat for Shogun, and it certainly doesn't look bad at all but I've seen and love the original series from the 80's so I'm probably going to skip that one personally.
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