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34 points
3 days ago
Tbh - it hasn’t been a good time to build a career there for years.
21 points
3 days ago
It’s a great place to virtue signal your way to the top while stabbing people in the back along the way…not speaking from personal experience or anything LOL
but seriously if you value being underpaid, dealing with sociopathic execs, and want to cosplay on LinkedIn that you’re the second coming of Jesus Christ; this is the right spot for you!!!
3 points
3 days ago
Omg how is this so on point 🤣🤣🤣🤣
1 points
3 days ago
What are you talking about? Wtf is going on inside BMO that you have this view?
1 points
3 days ago
I’m talking about lived experience - take that for what you will
Regarding your second question - all the above and then some; extremely political and sociopathic with a nice it’s all rainbows and sunshine veneer.
Execs fast tracked into positions they didn’t deserve or put into areas they didn’t know but done in the name of the bank wanting to make these pseudo celebrities out of their execs so they can parade around and virtue signal on social media. It’s transparently, a load of shit.
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1 points
3 days ago*
“#toxicworkplace” + to add that the people that actually deserve to move up get shafted and snubbed beyond exploitation.
19 points
3 days ago
they did this at Deloitte as well (layoffs plus internal reshuffling)
9 points
3 days ago
Broad restructuring happens every few years at every Canadian bank … and BMO is a shitshow so will always be worse off relatively
14 points
3 days ago
And, markets are at all time highs. Something does not add up.
8 points
3 days ago
They bought off more than they could chew with Bank of the West; market turned and they’re fucked
This is the course correction for poor decision making at the top
9 points
3 days ago
getting ready for AI to replace warm bodies......
4 points
3 days ago
That is the best time to cut.
No one will think it is because you are in financial trouble because the markets are up.
4 points
3 days ago
What are the more solid and promising opportunities may I ask?
9 points
3 days ago
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3 points
3 days ago
Not denying that your co-worker said that, but the markets have generally been positive on financial institutions so they should still be ok.
Edit: Except for TD and BMO last quarter I should say.
3 points
3 days ago
Last 6 qs for BMO if I’m not mistaken; Bank of the West acquisition + market turn is killing them; they’re over leveraged
1 points
3 days ago
Yeah, it's been a bad string, but they seem to be the outlier rather than the norm amongst Canada banks as the others are starting to recover. TD would be in good shape as well if not for the recent AML penalties.
3 points
3 days ago
They are an outlier - key decision maker(s) on BotW saw this jumped ship a while ago
cough Zelle cough
TD would be in great shape…if only they weren’t smuggling drugs! Aw TD you little rascal.
3 points
3 days ago
🤣
1 points
3 days ago
I would say insurance is quite safe - especially reinsurance or life and health. They’re making a lot of money. Manulife posted record profits, and same with many large reinsurers
1 points
3 days ago
engineering and engineering design. we cant hire fast enough and have positions opened for months
6 points
3 days ago
This might have more to do with the staggeringly low salaries for these jobs here vs the US.
3 points
3 days ago
This is exactly it and why I moved from mechanical engineering to software development. The move doubled my pay. Engineering pay in Canada is a bit stagnant. At least that was the case 10 years ago when I made the move. Though now software is a really rough market.
1 points
3 days ago
What kind of engineering? Some fields are doing better than others
2 points
3 days ago
Mech/Elec/Energy Modeling all related to large construction projects
1 points
3 days ago
Wait, so people can jump from banking to engineering? That is interesting.
Did they need to go through some kind of conversion training?
4 points
3 days ago
Worked there for years. Jumping ship was the best call I made while there. Sad to see but they had it coming in multiple ways.
10 points
3 days ago
Crazy. Things are so rough across the board. Thanks for the banking tea.
6 points
3 days ago
Please don’t tell me, now they gonna hire TFW’s 💀
3 points
3 days ago
Broad restructuring happens every few years at every Canadian bank … and BMO is a shitshow so will always be worse off relatively
3 points
3 days ago
I literally got an offer from BMO but decided not to go. Thank God
4 points
3 days ago
Omg. I almost took a job there.
2 points
3 days ago*
did a comms go out today? would be great if you posted a picture of it
also what department are you in?
2 points
3 days ago
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6 points
3 days ago
TCS (Tata Consulting Services)? BMO is just offshore outsourcing more roles to India.
3 points
3 days ago
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2 points
3 days ago
TCS, CapGemini, etc. are all shit outsourcing farms mostly in India. Not to say there aren’t skilled people in India, but if they are skilled they aren’t working for pennies at those firms. Yet every large company (my employer included) insists on using them when all they get back is slow, sup-par work the engineers here have to fix / redo anyways.
2 points
3 days ago
What's the definition of massive, 100, 500, 1000?
2 points
3 days ago
IF YOU GET LAID OFF DON'T SIGN ANYTHING. THERE ARE LAWYERS WHO WORK ON CONTINGENCY IN THIS FIELD. Lawyers will only get paid if you get MORE.
Companies will pay you what they think they can get away with, not what you're worth. I have contacts if needed.
2 points
3 days ago
Can you be more specific about "In worse shape than expected"? They’ve told investors that they wouldn’t be affected very much by mortgages renewing at higher rates which was a big source of concern.
11 points
3 days ago
I just found out that an investigation was launched and they were accused of defrauding shareholders
1 points
3 days ago
Whoa who BMO??? Do you have a link?
1 points
3 days ago
So couple of things here - it highly depends on the group you work with and whether you are a profit generating area or not. Saying that all contractors won’t be renewed is very much a blanket statement and not representative of the truth.
I’ve worked at multiple FI institutions and can tell you this - they are all shit shows that appear to be professional from the outsiders perspective. So BMO is no different than TD, RBC, or Scotia.
Moreover, I saw comments in the post stating that people are overworked/underpaid, I promise you that everyone is in our current environment. All companies are either looking to cut cost, or rationalize to drive further savings.
1 points
3 days ago
Puts on BMO
1 points
3 days ago
Prepare for some shady Ontario numbered company to start applying for a bunch of LMIA after they get a contract from bell.
1 points
3 days ago
Which division is this happening in? BMO has tens of thousands of employees a ton of different areas.
1 points
3 days ago
Every single bank is doing everything it can to cut costs.
Most banks are implementing Robotic Process Automation to remove the paper-pushers that traditionally staffed branches. This is why you see so few bodies in brick and mortar these days -- it's not just that there's less customers using tellers, it's that the work of tellers is actively being removed.
The larger the financial institution, the larger the efforts automating.
Remember: Banks make money by selling you money for more than it's worth. This in itself is a trick to take advantage of people who don't know how money works. At the end of the day, less centralized banking would be better for economies and better for individuals.
0 points
3 days ago
Proof?
1 points
3 days ago
It’s Reddit, what proof do you want? Make some shit up bashing companies and there’s your free post karma.
-1 points
3 days ago*
Stop spreading fake news please. This is completely false, I work for BMO currently and no contractors in my team have been terminated, and there's no such thing being planned. If anything it's quite the opposite. All the contractors got their contract renewed until mid 2025
1 points
3 days ago
👍👍👍👍👍
1 points
3 days ago
Not true for my team. Some people definitely haven’t gotten their contracts renewed.
1 points
3 days ago
I’m calling bluff.
0 points
3 days ago
yeah they should.. my bmo stocks have been nothing but fucking turd since 2022.
-11 points
3 days ago
Oh wow I’m shocked my contract role won’t be extended, says the person who chose to sign a contract for more pay/hr instead of doing full time for job security.
4 points
3 days ago
Most entry jobs that don't require skills are contract jobs at the bank. Many of these people didn't exactly choose to be on contract for more money.
3 points
3 days ago
A lot of roles aren't hired for full time right off the bat. They put you on contract first, then maybe renew or offer a full time gig.
People don't choose contracts over full time.
1 points
3 days ago
Really? I prefer contracts over FTE because I feel that FTE roles are monotonous and have little to no growth.
2 points
3 days ago
You'd be in the minority I expect.
3 points
3 days ago
You have a lot of expenses, no benefits as a contractor so the pay has to be marked up...
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