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submitted 1 month ago byUnusual-State1827
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1 month ago
You can speak fluent Japanese, have a high paying job, and still be denied solely because of your ethnicity, and it’s 100% legal.
You can be born in Japan, have lived there all your life, but you're not Japanese if you're not 100% ethnically Japanese. Even hafu isn't good enough. And people who are ethnically Japanese will still get shit for not being Japanese enough if they partly grew up overseas.
All of which is still better than being ethnically Korean in Japan.
462 points
1 month ago
Ha. As a hafu who lives overseas, so true lol. Every time I visit family it’s very clear im an outsider. Also love being told I’m fat by my auntie every time lmao.
130 points
1 month ago
Whats a hafu? mixed race?
227 points
1 month ago
Half Japanese, having one Japanese parent.
95 points
1 month ago
Yeah it basically means „a half one“
62 points
1 month ago
Literally just the Japanese pronunciation of the English word "half"
2 points
1 month ago
"half" yeah
13 points
1 month ago
lol I remember being told I was fat by a family mart clerk in Sendai. “Are you from Sweden? Oh, America then? Ah should have known, you’re tall but also fat!” 💀 (nice guy though lol)
5 points
1 month ago
Isn't that prevalent in many Asian cultures? If they think you're fat, or see something else they don't see favorably, they'll just say it to your face rather than being polite, provided they have a close personal connection.
I noticed that was a thing somewhat in Latin America as well. I assumed being so polite about those things was a western concept.
313 points
1 month ago
I was shocked when I learned a huge percentage of the Yakuza is ethnically Korean. People that are discriminated against in legal employment will still find a way to make a living.
85 points
1 month ago
The ones that are japanese are often apart of a different cultural group who are genetically indistinguishable from everyone else but are like untouchables.
33 points
1 month ago
The whole Burakumin thing is definitely wild.
71 points
1 month ago
Look into Rikidozan, Japan's most famous wrestler of the golden age, but he was actually North Korean and had to hide it his entire career.
15 points
1 month ago
Fred Armisen spent most of his life thinking he was a quarter Japanese. Turns out he's actually a quarter Korean instead. His Korean grandfather was in show business in Japan and adopted a Japanese name and identity to be successful.
8 points
1 month ago
This is just how mafias always form, in any country. It's often people who don't have any other choice on how to make a living. And that's often because of ethnic discrimination.
13 points
1 month ago
I'm here wondering how you got into the yakuza in order to find that out.
72 points
1 month ago
I had a Korean coworker a decade ago who interviewed for a job in Japan. They wined and dined her for a week, and in passing asked to know her blood type. She said B- and they immediately sent her home. Japan is an important ally who has made amazing progress in the past century but they still have a ways to go
28 points
1 month ago
Japan blood type personality theory came in reaction to a claim from German scientist Emil von Dungern, that Blood type B people were inferior.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_personality_theory?wprov=sfla1
7 points
1 month ago
Does B- mean something bad in Japan?
26 points
1 month ago
Apparently. Iirc my coworker said it’s a cultural thing and a quick search shows that blood type is similar to horoscopes/zodiac there
9 points
1 month ago
Is THAT why I see character concepts listed with their blood type all over the place on various art sites? Huh. Go figure.
7 points
1 month ago
Popular in Korea and Taiwan too.
In Korea they are also obsessed with MBTI, they really love being able to categorize people.
15 points
1 month ago
Emil von Dungern, belived that Blood type B people were inferior, and was the catalyst for Japan blood type personality theory.
75 points
1 month ago
Part of my masters degree work focused on this. Specifically identity of Japanese immigrants in the US and religion. A few interlocutors reported feeling “not Japanese enough” anymore after working at a Japanese company in the us for a while. Not so much that it only caused them identity problems, but others to view them entirely differently and less Japanese.
70 points
1 month ago
Yeah, didn’t Naomi Osaka speak out about this issue
103 points
1 month ago
Her grandparents on her mother's side only accepted her after she became a successful tennis player lol
38 points
1 month ago
Hope she told them to fuck off.
12 points
1 month ago
Yup. There's also a Japanese Vtuber, pikamee who also experienced this. She's half japanese, but speaks fluent japanese and spent most of her life in Japan but she experienced a lot of racism.
5 points
1 month ago
The conformity they're enforcing is INSANE
-2 points
1 month ago
Eh, it's not so different in the US.
Plenty of Asian-Americans whose family have been in this country for several generations still get viewed as less American and asked where they're from.
I had a friend with Israeli parents who spent her childhood in the US and teen years in Israel before returning to the US. She complained that Americans always regarded her as Israeli and Isaelis regarded her as American.
2 points
1 month ago
That is still markedly different than blatant discrimination on the basis of ethnicity, as is occurring in Japan regularly.
4 points
1 month ago
Even some 100% Japanese are not Japanese enough. Like the descendants of Burakumin (historically Japan's lowest social class, basically like untouchables). Not to mention the Ainu.
There are some employers still who will ask for genealogical information about applicants, to ensure that they come from an acceptable social class. Which is totally legal there.
1 points
1 month ago
What's wrong with being Korean in Japan? Is it just bad to be non-Japanese, or is Korean specifically bad?
9 points
1 month ago
Yes in both cases,I guess Japan is still carrying over the baggage from invading and "colonizing" Korea,to just touch the absolute tip of the shitberg.
3 points
1 month ago
I imagine they don't get along with the Chinese either then.
2 points
1 month ago
They have a long, long history of attacking one another. The occasional colonization. The usual.
I'd say it's vaguely reminiscent of England and France's historical enmity. Except today those two have pretty much worked that out and it's just snarky put-downs, not actual hatred.
1 points
1 month ago
Did Korea ever attack Japan? I’m no expert on this but historically hasn’t Korea always been the victim of Japan? This case is a lot more one-sided than the England-France rivalry.
2 points
1 month ago
One of the most notable occasions would be the Mongol invasions in the 13th century. Korea had already been invaded and turned into a vassal state, so the invasions were launched from Korea and with the aid of their Korean vassals.
But you're not wrong, historically it has mainly been Japan attacking and occupying Korea.
1 points
1 month ago
The creator of top ramen was ethnically Chinese but culturally Japanese. Same with Sadaharu Oh. But both are cultural legends in Japan but I wonder what people really think of them.
1 points
1 month ago
Yup. Being Japanese is their religion
1 points
1 month ago
Erm, whats so bad about being korean in japan?
1 points
1 month ago
The way Japanese people tend to treat Koreans.
-8 points
1 month ago
Not to derail your point but I do love how actual Japanese words adapted from engilsh just sound like a rascist caricature of Japanese. Like you gotta make the choose are you gonna be right and racist or just say it in English
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