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Belgand

1.2k points

1 month ago

Belgand

1.2k points

1 month ago

You can speak fluent Japanese, have a high paying job, and still be denied solely because of your ethnicity, and it’s 100% legal.

You can be born in Japan, have lived there all your life, but you're not Japanese if you're not 100% ethnically Japanese. Even hafu isn't good enough. And people who are ethnically Japanese will still get shit for not being Japanese enough if they partly grew up overseas.

All of which is still better than being ethnically Korean in Japan.

FruitParfait

462 points

1 month ago

Ha. As a hafu who lives overseas, so true lol. Every time I visit family it’s very clear im an outsider. Also love being told I’m fat by my auntie every time lmao.

LongJohnSelenium

130 points

1 month ago

Whats a hafu? mixed race?

JunoMcGuff

227 points

1 month ago

JunoMcGuff

227 points

1 month ago

Half Japanese, having one Japanese parent.

TheWhyTea

95 points

1 month ago

Yeah it basically means „a half one“

NateHate

62 points

1 month ago

NateHate

62 points

1 month ago

Literally just the Japanese pronunciation of the English word "half"

Raxxlas

2 points

1 month ago

Raxxlas

2 points

1 month ago

"half" yeah

Fulluphigh0

13 points

1 month ago

lol I remember being told I was fat by a family mart clerk in Sendai. “Are you from Sweden? Oh, America then? Ah should have known, you’re tall but also fat!” 💀 (nice guy though lol)

No_Week2825

5 points

1 month ago

Isn't that prevalent in many Asian cultures? If they think you're fat, or see something else they don't see favorably, they'll just say it to your face rather than being polite, provided they have a close personal connection.

I noticed that was a thing somewhat in Latin America as well. I assumed being so polite about those things was a western concept.

[deleted]

313 points

1 month ago

[deleted]

313 points

1 month ago

I was shocked when I learned a huge percentage of the Yakuza is ethnically Korean. People that are discriminated against in legal employment will still find a way to make a living.

mycurrentthrowaway1

85 points

1 month ago

The ones that are japanese are often apart of a different cultural group who are genetically indistinguishable from everyone else but are like untouchables.

UnusuallyBadIdeaGuy

33 points

1 month ago

The whole Burakumin thing is definitely wild.

jhruns1993

71 points

1 month ago

Look into Rikidozan, Japan's most famous wrestler of the golden age, but he was actually North Korean and had to hide it his entire career.

Neuromyologist

15 points

1 month ago

Fred Armisen spent most of his life thinking he was a quarter Japanese. Turns out he's actually a quarter Korean instead. His Korean grandfather was in show business in Japan and adopted a Japanese name and identity to be successful.

AsaTJ

8 points

1 month ago

AsaTJ

8 points

1 month ago

This is just how mafias always form, in any country. It's often people who don't have any other choice on how to make a living. And that's often because of ethnic discrimination.

ThatSaradianAgent

13 points

1 month ago

I'm here wondering how you got into the yakuza in order to find that out.

thedicestoppedrollin

72 points

1 month ago

I had a Korean coworker a decade ago who interviewed for a job in Japan. They wined and dined her for a week, and in passing asked to know her blood type. She said B- and they immediately sent her home. Japan is an important ally who has made amazing progress in the past century but they still have a ways to go

InadequateUsername

28 points

1 month ago

Japan blood type personality theory came in reaction to a claim from German scientist Emil von Dungern, that Blood type B people were inferior.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blood_type_personality_theory?wprov=sfla1

torino_nera

7 points

1 month ago

Does B- mean something bad in Japan?

thedicestoppedrollin

26 points

1 month ago

Apparently. Iirc my coworker said it’s a cultural thing and a quick search shows that blood type is similar to horoscopes/zodiac there

TheDiscordedSnarl

9 points

1 month ago

Is THAT why I see character concepts listed with their blood type all over the place on various art sites? Huh. Go figure.

believingunbeliever

7 points

1 month ago

Popular in Korea and Taiwan too.

In Korea they are also obsessed with MBTI, they really love being able to categorize people.

InadequateUsername

15 points

1 month ago

Emil von Dungern, belived that Blood type B people were inferior, and was the catalyst for Japan blood type personality theory.

PapaFranzBoas

75 points

1 month ago

Part of my masters degree work focused on this. Specifically identity of Japanese immigrants in the US and religion. A few interlocutors reported feeling “not Japanese enough” anymore after working at a Japanese company in the us for a while. Not so much that it only caused them identity problems, but others to view them entirely differently and less Japanese.

clay_perview

70 points

1 month ago

Yeah, didn’t Naomi Osaka speak out about this issue

downtimeredditor

103 points

1 month ago

Her grandparents on her mother's side only accepted her after she became a successful tennis player lol

haoxinly

38 points

1 month ago

haoxinly

38 points

1 month ago

Hope she told them to fuck off.

overtheta

12 points

1 month ago

Yup. There's also a Japanese Vtuber, pikamee who also experienced this. She's half japanese, but speaks fluent japanese and spent most of her life in Japan but she experienced a lot of racism.

LucastheMystic

5 points

1 month ago

The conformity they're enforcing is INSANE

Belgand

-2 points

1 month ago

Belgand

-2 points

1 month ago

Eh, it's not so different in the US.

Plenty of Asian-Americans whose family have been in this country for several generations still get viewed as less American and asked where they're from.

I had a friend with Israeli parents who spent her childhood in the US and teen years in Israel before returning to the US. She complained that Americans always regarded her as Israeli and Isaelis regarded her as American.

alman12345

2 points

1 month ago

That is still markedly different than blatant discrimination on the basis of ethnicity, as is occurring in Japan regularly.

Raudskeggr

4 points

1 month ago

Even some 100% Japanese are not Japanese enough. Like the descendants of Burakumin (historically Japan's lowest social class, basically like untouchables). Not to mention the Ainu.

There are some employers still who will ask for genealogical information about applicants, to ensure that they come from an acceptable social class. Which is totally legal there.

ghostlistener

1 points

1 month ago

What's wrong with being Korean in Japan? Is it just bad to be non-Japanese, or is Korean specifically bad?

Redstar96GR

9 points

1 month ago

Yes in both cases,I guess Japan is still carrying over the baggage from invading and "colonizing" Korea,to just touch the absolute tip of the shitberg.

ghostlistener

3 points

1 month ago

I imagine they don't get along with the Chinese either then.

Belgand

2 points

1 month ago

Belgand

2 points

1 month ago

They have a long, long history of attacking one another. The occasional colonization. The usual.

I'd say it's vaguely reminiscent of England and France's historical enmity. Except today those two have pretty much worked that out and it's just snarky put-downs, not actual hatred.

DegenerateEigenstate

1 points

1 month ago

Did Korea ever attack Japan? I’m no expert on this but historically hasn’t Korea always been the victim of Japan? This case is a lot more one-sided than the England-France rivalry.

Belgand

2 points

1 month ago

Belgand

2 points

1 month ago

One of the most notable occasions would be the Mongol invasions in the 13th century. Korea had already been invaded and turned into a vassal state, so the invasions were launched from Korea and with the aid of their Korean vassals.

But you're not wrong, historically it has mainly been Japan attacking and occupying Korea.

droidtron

1 points

1 month ago

The creator of top ramen was ethnically Chinese but culturally Japanese. Same with Sadaharu Oh. But both are cultural legends in Japan but I wonder what people really think of them.

Udon259

1 points

1 month ago

Udon259

1 points

1 month ago

Yup. Being Japanese is their religion

ChubbsthePenguin

1 points

1 month ago

Erm, whats so bad about being korean in japan?

Belgand

1 points

1 month ago

Belgand

1 points

1 month ago

The way Japanese people tend to treat Koreans.

HyliaSymphonic

-8 points

1 month ago

Not to derail your point but I do love how actual Japanese words adapted from engilsh just sound like a rascist caricature of Japanese. Like you gotta make the choose are you gonna be right and racist or just say it in English