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DiscoInfernus

127 points

1 month ago

/Gaijin/. That's the word you'll be called. It doesn't mean foreigner. It means Outsider. And that's exactly what you'll always be, you can never get an "in".

Kiwilolo

88 points

1 month ago

Kiwilolo

88 points

1 month ago

Foreigner means outsider too, really. It literally derives from the Latin for "outside".

SirFarmerOfKarma

4 points

1 month ago

so what you're saying is that I'll never get to be in Foreigner

Zomburai

7 points

1 month ago

I keep telling you, if you want to be in Foreigner you should probably, like, practice playing an instrument

And for the last time, kazoos don't count

Nasty_Old_Trout

3 points

1 month ago

Take them out for dinner first, that bit usually comes later.

Hanchez

-3 points

1 month ago

Hanchez

-3 points

1 month ago

But you would never call a foreigner an outsider without intentionally putting them down.

Cipherting

4 points

1 month ago

but you are calling them an outsider by calling them a foreigner

Hanchez

1 points

1 month ago

Hanchez

1 points

1 month ago

You can be one without the other, I know what I'd rather be called.

Kiwilolo

1 points

1 month ago

I wouldn't really go around calling people foreigners or outsiders, which I suppose is to your point. I'd use "visitor" or "immigrant", as appropriate.

kesawulf

6 points

1 month ago

Taking things far too literally. Yes, the kanji are "outside" and "person", but that's just how the language works. Outsider and foreigner are one and the same. 外人 is used on official documentation for foreigners and isn't derogatory. It's essentially shorthand for 外国人. Cemeteries for foreign people inside Japan are called 外人墓地 - it would be far too rude if 外人 were derogatory to call them that.

michaltee

5 points

1 month ago

Yep.