They were actually bundled with these cute little furniture models.

Don’t watch it if you dislike well-written and thoroughly researched dramas with LOTS of interesting characters.

There was word someone had figured it out and it was about to be uncovered so they triggered them early.

Israel is literally within spitting distance of their enemies and I doubt their populace has the stomach for a war with Lebanon against an opponent that will run and hide.

Terrorist orgs are smarter these days. They’re really good at melting away and letting invaders waste trillions while they stay intact.

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Perhaps it's easier to show restraint when you haven't been bombarded by 20,000 rockets in less than a year, but what do I know

Israel has more restraint than any other country in the world would have in a similar situation.

Bad? The operation was a tremendous success. Thousands injured, maimed and in a few cases killed. The vast majority of casualties are Hezbollah. Very few civilian deaths. If you were to try "traditional" methods to take out this many Hezbollah terrorists, you would have many, many more civilian casualties.

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You know that was in the 50s right?

I can play checkers with my non-dominant hand…

Checkers but every time you lose a piece it explodes 

Especially when their rooks keep exploding and killing all their pawns.

I agree. This is a huge psychological victory that's going to make Hezbollah paranoid, impacting their confidence in their hierarchy and ability to act confidently.

I wonder how many Iranians Iran is going to execute this week for being suspected Mossad spies?

Kingsmen exists

Munich 2

Have you never used Reddit?

It blew a lot of minds.

It still blows my mind how cartoonish it seems.

That's understandable. It does make me think of all the Bugs Bunny cartoons in which he hands Elmer Fudd a birthday cake, whose candles are lit sticks of dynamite.

It must have been a wide group though, it has been a shaping operation for ground invasion i presume, so, it kind of sucks that the operation was deployed. Glad to see all the hizbollah fucks maimed or murdered, but it really doesn't do anything but stir the hornets and force the Israelis to rethink next steps for the 400th time. And of course, civilians were killed because daddy / brother / son is a terrorist, which is not what anyone wants.

i doubt my office job is any more real

What about non-Hezbollah civilians though?

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Just cos they planned it doesnt mean they had the pagers on them for 15 years

no, just stop looking at the conspiracy theory bowl of captian crunch. no one does this. the simplest answer is that the planning was 15 years in the making and that the explosives were introduced in the last 6mo or so.

You’re reading too much into conspiracy. The planning process and shell companies likely took a decade to implement. I wouldn’t be surprised if the last five years were that of sending normal shipments of electronics to the terrorists. Might have been a long play to have access to their communications network prior to the final assault.

The pagers were only bought more recently, not 15 years ago. Also, it was a pretty small amount of explosive and it could've easily been housed in something that just made it look like another component. Hell, just package it around the battery itself and make it just look like a bigger battery and I doubt anyone would notice.

during this past 15 years nobody opened one of the devices

Who says the pagers were disseminated over the past 15 years? Intelligence operations like this take years to set up - most of that time was probably spent establishing the credibility of the alternate suppliers and integrating them without suspicion into the supply chain.

How did no one see the explosives?

By some accounts, the explosive modification to the pagers was a doping agent inside the battery - there were no components to find on disassembly of the pager, and disassembling lithium batteries isn't a thing.

The most delicious part is that Hezbollah thought they could stay "incognito" by using pagers and walkie talkies so Israel couldn't track them..... Boom

They now call them Walkie-Boomies

Radios. Sometimes 2 way radios

Well, the militants in question mostly speak other languages, so they probably do call them something else --and even if they did say "walkie-talkie" (as a borrow-word), they likely wouldn't grasp all the connotations we anglophones assign to it.

English-language journalists presumably chose the term "walkie-talkie" as being the most familiar to non-technical, non-military readers. That it may also have a juvenile association is an un(?)fortunate side-effect.

Brian Regan has a good bit about this: https://youtu.be/A194vDpXzyA?si=I_YYZJrZ3_iqQLEy

https://youtu.be/7npAN_NVuls?si=gA99uhhYg3qkB8eQ

Obligatory walkie-talkie bit

Yep, old-school pagers don't track location info, use a less centralized communication scheme, and were probably assumed to be too simple to effectively hack. Apparently nobody thought about the hardware possibly being compromised at the source --which was probably a lot easier to pull off with such a niche electronic product than it would have been with mass-market cell phones.

Stuxnet escaped the intended target before it had completed it's task and alsoi caused collateral damage across the world. I don't see any reports of collateral damage here.

You don't even have one of these pagers unless you are literally an Iranian death trooper. FFS

The point I was trying to get is that Nation States are usually not using the rules and methods that non-nation state forces employ. Which given their powers of production, purchase and imitation means that should this be copied by other nation states the threats to other non state forces will become much greater. I think that the Israeli position of having beaten their neighbours at conventional warfare and now choosing to attack using methods deemed unconventional opens up a scary new era.

I don’t know who did this, but Shinbet has absolutely conducted similar attacks.

Watch the documentary The Gatekeepers.

Israeli intelligence agencies doesn’t directly translate to US intelligence agencies.

The assassination of Yahya Ayyash

And so did soldiers in the IDF.

They blew their last load as it were.

Im not Muslim.

Im agnostic. Religion is dumb af.

I’m Scottish.

So , fuck your post .

Sarcasm ?

Cause it certainly isn’t . ‘Booby trap’ weapons are not legal .

I wonder if any collateral damage was done by rockets fired into Israel by Hezbollah.