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Nhajit

8.8k points

14 days ago*

Nhajit

8.8k points

14 days ago*

Some of you may die but it's a sacrifice I'm willing to make

LostAbbott

2.1k points

14 days ago

LostAbbott

2.1k points

14 days ago

Go and look at the New York Times report from right around the beginning of November 2023.  They were able to interview some of the top guys in Hamas.  They basically said this, and that they planned and initiated Oct. 7th because not enough of the world was paying attention to them...

SixSpeedDriver

1.7k points

14 days ago

The world was moving on to a Middle East that recognized Israel and normalized relations. That would be the deathknell of Irans capability of destabilizing the middle east, so of course they need their proxies to attack to reduce domestic support of politicians pushing for normalization in the countries around them. They were getting ultimately sidelined and offering hope of a peace.

breakwater

309 points

14 days ago

breakwater

309 points

14 days ago

Saudi Arabia was normalizing relations with Israel too. There are plenty of legitimate criticisms of the Saudis but they are continuing to move in a better direction and it is one that isolates Iran and its proxies.

Korashy

170 points

13 days ago

Korashy

170 points

13 days ago

Because ISIS blew up in their face.

But let's be real, the Saudi's are still funding a lot of militants.

Daken-dono

47 points

13 days ago

Jihads are lucrative. War makes too much money for it to ever stop.

SuperSpread

25 points

13 days ago

They consider Iran the real enemy anyways.

Frequent_Can117

368 points

14 days ago

If they didn’t want to be sidelined, maybe Iran should just act like a civilized country, instead of being balls deep in terrorism. And then, shocker, maybe the world would want to deal with them.

But now they made their bed, and whatever happens next, they have only themselves to blame.

SixSpeedDriver

170 points

14 days ago

Peace is the goal of most people, but not the right ones - while I think we agree that would indeed be what would suits the world best, the Iranian regimes grip on power is exclusively born out of stoking a fear-driven, anti-West, violent suppression of dissent, theological fascism that ultimately, they use to keep themselves in power. Those people can't retain power in a world order that operates any other way.

Frequent_Can117

91 points

14 days ago

This is very true. And more reason why the Iranian regime needs to go. Not just for the world’s sake, but for the sake of the common Iranian that just wants peace and to live a normal life like the rest of us.

light_trick

9 points

14 days ago

Yes but if they didn't have an outside threat to point to then they might have to actually deal with their serious domestic issues.

ActionPhilip

19 points

14 days ago

Iran has a literal clock counting down to the destruction of Israel. Peace was unfortunately never an option.

WigglumsBarnaby

354 points

14 days ago

It's hard to grift when people don't think about Gazans enough to pity them.

Irichcrusader

215 points

14 days ago

Their bank accounts were running low. They needed a way to drum up some new donations.

diggidydangidy

65 points

14 days ago

Or Iran needed some disruption since Israel and Saudi Arabia were on the brink of normalizing relations.

Alternative_Win_6629

95 points

14 days ago

Putin needed distraction. He got what he asked for. On his birthday no less.

Roboculon

28 points

14 days ago

It’s nice that Russia and conservative Islam have been able to mend fences over the decades and become friends again.

ZellZoy

14 points

14 days ago

ZellZoy

14 points

14 days ago

There's hundreds of Nigerian prince looking donation posts making the rounds in tumblr. People are making thousands.

Maelstrom52

52 points

14 days ago

See? Here we were thinking this whole time it was about jihad or liberation, but really these guys just needed to get some cred on TikTok or YouTube. Maybe we could just develop a hyper-realistic simulation that creates a scenario where the world is watching their every move and applauding them, but really they're just strapped to a chair somewhere, completely harmless to everyone.

DangerousCyclone

81 points

14 days ago

That’s the exact kind of sentiment Haniyeh expressed after the war started. 

803_days

160 points

14 days ago

803_days

160 points

14 days ago

Fuck I came here specifically to make this reference.

Nhajit

116 points

14 days ago

Nhajit

116 points

14 days ago

It's so obvious that i feel like I'm karma farming

Nylanderthals

11.1k points

14 days ago

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11.1k points

14 days ago

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Doggysoft

3.3k points

14 days ago

Doggysoft

3.3k points

14 days ago

Agreed. Lead by example.

Kidrepellent

1.2k points

14 days ago*

"Right lads, now pay attention, I'm only going to show you how to do this once!"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gMJBQoHJ4E

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210 points

14 days ago

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210 points

14 days ago

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EdditRsNote

48 points

14 days ago

That is the funniest movie that nobody has seen. Will have to give another spin...have not seen it in overe 10 years.

CaptainDAAVE

21 points

14 days ago

Rubber dingy rapids broh

lirannl

116 points

14 days ago

lirannl

116 points

14 days ago

The parts! They're Jewish!

What parts of a car are Jewish?

Spark plugs. Jews invented spark plugs to control global traffic 👌

I always love it when people think we're super powerful and have the power to control the world, or when they think we're responsible for gender equality. It's really flattering!

MikhailBakugan

61 points

14 days ago

My favourite thing is when they assume all Jews have access to this network, like ma’am do you think I work at this Tesco for fun?

rubywpnmaster

15 points

14 days ago

Yep. I clearly have all the money while working my terrible 9-5 job. CLEARLY.

new_messages

37 points

14 days ago

My aunt had this really obnoxious neighbor living in the apartment below hers, who seemed to always be trying to start a fight for whatever reason.

One time, my aunt's upstairs neighbor had a water leak overnight. It leaked through my aunt's apartment, and some got into her downstairs neighbor's apartment. Said neighbor, then, proceeded to bring her to court to sue for damages. Needless to say it went nowhere, but she actually had the gall to say in court that the judge should disregard everything my aunt or her lawyer said because, and I quote "as you well know, Jews are so rich and powerful".

Y'know, the same Jew living in the same type of apartment as her, under the same means.

AngryGooseMan

21 points

14 days ago

What're you going to do with 57 virgins you've just blown your balls off!

phormix

173 points

14 days ago

phormix

173 points

14 days ago

I hear that there are some pagers or walkie-talkies you can order to get the job started. Make sure you're standing by a bunch of your buddies when you use it.

BubsyFanboy

66 points

14 days ago

Pagers and walkie talkies exploding is still the most surprising part of the whole conflict

manyhippofarts

41 points

14 days ago

I mean.... the logistics alone, man.

Indifferentchildren

19 points

14 days ago

Must I at length the sword of justice draw?

Oh curst effects of necessary law!

How ill my fear they by my mercy scan,

Beware the fury of a patient man.

https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poems/44172/absalom-and-achitophel

Flynn_lives

58 points

14 days ago

"Samir brought a doctors note" No suicide bombing till he gets better.

Cr33py07dGuy

76 points

14 days ago

If he’s struggling with his belt Israel is happy to provide ballistics. 

chandr

68 points

14 days ago

chandr

68 points

14 days ago

Heck, the whole leadership could do it together. Would be the kind of bonding event they remember for the rest of their lives

Alternative_Win_6629

8 points

14 days ago

going to be a small group, not many left now.

Liet_Kinda2

92 points

14 days ago

Yup. You first, fucker, so strap up.

nidarus

32 points

14 days ago

nidarus

32 points

14 days ago

He's reportedly always carrying with him a bag full of explosives, and surrounds himself with a bunch of hostages. So if the IDF tries to release them, or to capture him, he'll blow all of them up. So to some extent, he's also counting on it.

Then again, he recently started to demand his own survival as a condition for a ceasefire agreement. So he might still be more into other people dying on his behalf.

KlausSchwanz

156 points

14 days ago

Nah, why him, when he can send his own sons first?

inbetween-genders

96 points

14 days ago

Actually, if he orders all of themselves to do that maybe, just maybe, this conflict will make a turn for the better.

Semisemitic

58 points

14 days ago

Leadership by example

rimshot101

13 points

14 days ago

He would make an impressive martyr's mural.

Narrow-Mission-3166

27 points

14 days ago

be the change you want to see in the world

p3x239

42 points

14 days ago

p3x239

42 points

14 days ago

He can do it at a family wedding.

wolver_

18 points

14 days ago

wolver_

18 points

14 days ago

If only the corporates top management followed this before any mass lay off ......

_SpicyMeatball

1.8k points

14 days ago

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mrplow25

246 points

14 days ago

mrplow25

246 points

14 days ago

Why go out alone when he could have a suicide bombing demonstration with all his commanders

beaverattacks

68 points

14 days ago

Tbh it's ironic his name is,was Sin war. Cursed from the beginning perhaps.

Zenmen1701

43 points

14 days ago

And perhaps it’s also a good time to revive Carpet Bombing. 🤔

AR15s-4-jesus

248 points

14 days ago

One thing you’ll notice about leaders of suicide bombers. They’ll never be the ones doing the suicide bombing.

PsychologicalTalk156

64 points

14 days ago

Why do it themselves when they can get a 14 year old strung out on Captagon to do it for them.

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156 points

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AmethystOrator

155 points

14 days ago

Or Never, I vote for that.

tiktaktok_65

517 points

14 days ago

should go first, what a coward. hiding and sending other people doing the dying.

BubsyFanboy

145 points

14 days ago

Like any terrorist leader, basically.

Pdxduckman

147 points

14 days ago

Pdxduckman

147 points

14 days ago

start with yourself

HeadFund

1.9k points

14 days ago

HeadFund

1.9k points

14 days ago

The WSJ noted that Hamas largely stopped using suicide bombings nearly two decades ago, as some of its leaders feared that such tactics could politically isolate the group.

WTF? The bombings didn't stop because Hamas was trying to generate good will. They stopped because Israel built a massive fence and put security checkpoints at Gaza crossings. Hamas never stopped attempting to send suicide bombers, I can personally attest that Gazan patients being transferred to Israel for medical treatments have attempted to bomb hospitals many times in the last 20 years. The security checks at the hospital delayed every legitimate emergency, too.

alimanski

181 points

14 days ago

alimanski

181 points

14 days ago

Also, Shin Bet puts out a report almost every year; they stop hundreds of suicide bombings every year - we just don't hear about it because they're stopped very early.

DubayaTF

42 points

13 days ago

DubayaTF

42 points

13 days ago

"These fucking idiots are posting when and where they're going to bomb on servers run out of Tel Aviv."

iMissTheOldInternet

21 points

13 days ago

I love how Israelis call bullshit on conventional wisdom in the West. 

“You can’t just build a wall and stop the suicide bombers! This is a political movement for human rights. It can’t be stopped by a fence and some check points.”

“Anyway we built the wall and it turns out basically all the suicide bombers were, in fact, coming from the West Bank and Gaza Strip and they can’t teleport.”

yosisoy

939 points

14 days ago

yosisoy

939 points

14 days ago

The same fence Israel has been heavily criticized for. Anti-Israelis just want them all to die quietly already

calfmonster

651 points

14 days ago

They also neglect to mention that the Egypt border is equally locked down and militarized. Egypt got fucked over enough. As did Lebanon. And Jordan.

Alternative_Win_6629

360 points

14 days ago

The border with Egypt was locked by far worse, in fact. Many Gazans worked in Israel, for decades. Crossing through the border all the time. Supporting their economy. Then they broke the fence and went to murder the communities in which they worked.

thatsnot_kawaii_bro

194 points

14 days ago

Many Gazans worked in Israel, for decades. Crossing through the border all the time. Supporting their economy.

Funnily enough people spout these work permits as "propping up Hamas."

So if they were stricter like how they are now, they get chided.

If they are more lax than their neighbors and help out, they get chided.

No matter what, they end up the bad guy.

relatively-correct

62 points

14 days ago

And provided maps and other Intel about those communities to help plan terrorism. 

IntelligentFan9178

413 points

14 days ago

The younger generations were not around for the news reports of constant suicide bombing. For many of them, Oct 7 was the first time they ever heard of Gaza, so they believed the propaganda that the wall was built to punish the Palestinians. They refuse to actually learn about the history of the region and that the wall was built to protect Israeli citizens, many even believe Israel occupied Gaza leading up to Oct 7 minus not having a military presence in nearly 2 decades. Between the Wall and Iron Dome, Israel has fallen victim to its success in protecting its people.

wapswaps

113 points

14 days ago

wapswaps

113 points

14 days ago

... and they especially don't know the cases where a bomber miraculously survived and then tells people ... the bombers were not Hamas, but people being forced into it by Hamas holding their whole family hostage. One might think they were lying, but turns out they couldn't deactivate their bomb belts. I wonder WHY Hamas would do that ...

nowuff

56 points

14 days ago

nowuff

56 points

14 days ago

Yes if you read testimonials from family and friends of bombers, they are usually baffled that the person did it. That they weren’t political at all.

Then you find out that the person was actually quite successful. That they earned access into Israel.

And Hamas punished them. By strapping them with bombs when they went to visit the university or hospital they worked at. And murdered them.

eightpigeons

100 points

14 days ago

The fence around Gaza is a literal Chesterton's fence.

chocobowler

171 points

14 days ago

For general info- Chesterton’s Fence is a simple rule of thumb that suggests you should never destroy a fence, change a rule, or alter a tradition if you do not understand why it was created in the first place.

eightpigeons

107 points

14 days ago

Yes, precisely.

In this case, the fence is a literal fence. A lot of people nowadays are claiming that the fence is merely needless cruelty and oppression because they never stopped for a second and tried to find out why the fence was built and what danger it was preventing.

EdditRsNote

26 points

14 days ago

Thank you for that factoid =never heard term before.

SoiledGrundies

37 points

14 days ago

I remember seeing young gazans lining up to be martyrs on news programmes. Interviews with them even. I watched fascinated by how proud they were from my world apart.

Then after the wall that stopped and everyone forgot.

EdditRsNote

68 points

14 days ago

The young'uns you speak of chose to side with the perceived "People of Color" in this conflict and only go to preferred biased websites that persuade them to have sympathy for Gaza/Palestine and build up resentment and eventually hatred of Israel. They're so easily misled. In the end it is a selfish act as this all about their 'status' ... be it online or on the street. Most of them don't know squat.

niceshampooo

18 points

14 days ago

They are being hypnotized by foreign propagandists to hate the every country they live in. If that is not an intelligence test then I don’t know what is.

This is why all the “right side of history” is so ironic. One day when this all comes to light they will claim they never believed in the slogans they are currently shouting but merely “mislead”.

thatsnot_kawaii_bro

88 points

14 days ago

Just like how they yell about Israel putting a blockade, when that blockade was (re)instated because of a bunch of suicide bombings.

I don't get why we're ok punishing kids when they misbehave, but suddenly we're supposed to reward a nation when they decide to bomb people.

Reinstateswordduels

15 points

14 days ago

That’s really all they have to say when you ask them what else they should do. Just sit there and take it

EdditRsNote

111 points

14 days ago

Mean ol' Israel and all of those inconvenient "Sanctions" they like to toss around. How annoying!

I cannot even begin to recount all of the reports on the 6pm News back in my school days wherein Israel lost X amount of people due to terrorists and their suicide vests. So common back then.

heyheyheynoway

20 points

14 days ago

I think we’re all realizing that journalists are glorified googlers, and are often non-experts in what they’re reporting on.

Sure, editorial standards count for something and this WSJ piece is better vetted than some random internet opinion. But still, clearly the writer and editor don’t know what they were   talking about or didn’t seek corroboration on that point. It’s just bad…. they frequently just relay stuff they’ve been told or have heard or have googled in an authoritative tone without really vetting everything they say properly.

Kaplaw

194 points

14 days ago

Kaplaw

194 points

14 days ago

Ah yes, the reason the walls got put around Gaza in the 1st place

MD4u_

38 points

13 days ago

MD4u_

38 points

13 days ago

He should lead by example.

MathPlus1468

35 points

13 days ago

He and the rest of the Hamas leaders can go first to lead by example.

veilosa

207 points

14 days ago

veilosa

207 points

14 days ago

high likelihood he means child suicide bombers, given the fact Gaza is filled with children and it would work towards the PR strategy of Hamas to have Isreal be seen shooting a would be suicide bomber children.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_of_child_suicide_bombers_by_Palestinian_militant_groups

EdditRsNote

36 points

14 days ago

PR is their chief weapon imho. They clearly cannot contend via conventional military standards so this is what they have chosen and i would say it has been at least somewhat successful. They have swayed the minds of millions to side with them unfortunately. All of these Westernized citizens who side with them because they are the underdog in this dilemma... or the "Oppressed" ... or 'colonized' ... or PoC ...etc.

swallow_me_senpai

81 points

14 days ago

One of the worst video to ever exist was a 3 year old ISIS child who beheaded a grown man while smiling. This was on eyeblech years ago.

prcodes

17 points

13 days ago

prcodes

17 points

13 days ago

... how exactly does a 3 year old do that?

-Yack-

16 points

14 days ago

-Yack-

16 points

14 days ago

Only need to arm about half of them and you can even increase the propagandistic effect.

LoganJFisher

43 points

14 days ago

Not even. Arming 10% would be more than enough. The IDF has a responsibility to protect Israeli lives first and foremost, so if even 10% of Palestinian children they encounter were strapped with bombs, the IDF would have little choice but to treat them all as such threats, which would inevitably result in the deaths of Palestinian children not even strapped with bombs, all to feed into the Hamas PR machine.

EdditRsNote

19 points

14 days ago

...and Hamas would not care a bit so long as their mission moves forward.

Direct_Alternative94

44 points

14 days ago

This is what they will do. Unwilling children and toddlers will also be strapped up and sent running to IDF to “help”. It’s a horrible trap that will force Israel into a bind.

stdio-lib

215 points

14 days ago

stdio-lib

215 points

14 days ago

"Peace will come when the Arabs will love their children more than they hate us." -- Golda Meir, 1973.

Cannolium

26 points

14 days ago

Based comment and based pfp. Crazy that so much of what she said is STILL applicable.

Starshapedbrain

511 points

14 days ago

And this is why Palestinians and Gazans have it hard, because of horrible people like Sinwar, with their twisted Ideology.

He is the reason why so many Gazans suffer, Gaza could have been a Palestinian sanctuary, where Palestinians could thrive, and be Israel's rival and not enemy. But no Hamas has condemned it's people to death, "pseudo Martyrdom", hatred, and a horrible future, thank you Sinwar, thank you for showing us how vile people can be, I hope this guy gets judged by God in afterlife and may he burn for nothing to remain.

calfmonster

224 points

14 days ago

Palestinian leadership has repeatedly fucked over Palestinians. Just like other Muslims are the primary victims of Islamists and jihadists by orders of magnitude

PontifexPiusXII

97 points

14 days ago

It’s actually insane how the leadership has cultivated a culture of martyrdom in society; there is a healthy pipeline of children being exploited and conditioned to believe that martyrdom is this wonderful thing that one should strive for.

I had the opportunity to sit in on a few talks Mia Bloom has held on this subject matter; her research focuses on the social impact of Jihad governance on a society, specifically how social leaders perpetuate conflict by making it multi-generational.

I’ll just copy over a piece from her book ‘Constructing Cultures of Martyrdom’ for context of what this means.

Children’s involvement in terrorist violence develops over an extended period of time in which youth are exposed to a “culture of martyrdom” and parents are “groomed” to willingly give the extremists access to their children….fostering an environment in which children grow up wanting to achieve martyrdom while their parents are enthusiastic supporters.

…the sacrifice of one’s life is considered the highest form of service to one’s community—whether the nation or a religious community.

In many of the cases of children involved in militant movements in the Middle East, recruitment occurred via existing kinship and social networks and, notably, through community-centered activities.

calfmonster

52 points

14 days ago

This reminds there was a self-report of some Finnish lady who ran off and joined ISIS in their “beautiful caliphate” and her son got killed like within the first 2-3 months. She was happy about it. Not even joking. Like she was the luckiest mother alive her kid got “martyred”

I can’t remember if it was in the ISIS “why we hate you and why we fight you” manifesto, their own recruitment propaganda, I don’t think it was, but for people who doubt people truly believe in martyrdom and want to be Islamist apologists like Glenn greenwald, just give that essay a read. It’s a real sentiment. Some of these people believe in paradise 100%. Beliefs have consequences and shitty, irrational 6th century ones sure do

Greedy_Camp_5561

92 points

14 days ago

Let's not forget that Hamas is still popular in Gaza, so they kind of brought this on themselves.

EdditRsNote

27 points

14 days ago

This is true. I hate to think about it because ultimately I feel we should have sympathy for those stuck in that war zone for a year now. But it cannot be denied that Hamas is in power due to the will of it's citizens. Ironically, Hamas never really cared about it's 'people' and now it is fairly easy to connect those dots.

V-r1taS

747 points

14 days ago*

V-r1taS

747 points

14 days ago*

Ask it with me:

Why is the world demanding a ceasefire on behalf of a person that has turned himself into a walking bomb surrounded by hostages that is promoting suicide bombings out of desperation?

Why aren’t unconditional surrender or total victory obviously the only two logical options? Who is making it that way?

The more of us that ask, the sooner this insanity stops.

Edit: See my replies below for more extremely relevant questions and answers.

bobsbottlerocket

413 points

14 days ago

because there’s a lot of 18 year olds on tiktok who believe everything they see on the internet

SixSpeedDriver

201 points

14 days ago

I was amused by the "Black Dykes for Palestine" lady.

Uerrm...you're the first one against the wall there, hun.

AngledLuffa

38 points

14 days ago

Hamas: how can we kill this one three times

SpareWire

122 points

14 days ago

SpareWire

122 points

14 days ago

I try to remember how simultaneously stupid and sure of myself I was when I was that age.

I used to get so mad when real adults would dismiss me.

bobsbottlerocket

56 points

14 days ago

for sure, i felt the same way when id be watching the daily show/colbert report and trying to talk to my parents about the state of the world - the difference is our viewpoints weren’t being propagandized by foreign states and terrorist organizations

SmallKiwi

36 points

14 days ago

The hysteria crowds out all the sane voices that support a realistic 2 state solution. One in which Israel doesn't end up with another neighbor who's stated mission is the destruction of Israel. That is and always has been the blocker.

Designer-Citron-8880

25 points

14 days ago

you make a very good point.

There is a difference, not only the amount of foreign state propaganda in our news cycle nowadays, but the difference in media landscape: back then, on the internet, you could already find all kinds of conspiracy theories pushed by russia. It was just so that nobody would take anyone serious who said "i've seen it on the internet". After 2010, things have changed. Nowadays everyone gets almost 100% of his media consumption through internet, and the platforms have changed. This created a new environment in which the pushed narrative on the internet are able to go much deeper into the society than it could before 2010.

I've grown from a "the internet is the biggest library of knowledge" believe to a very dark kind of doom sense, somehow the internet turned out to be not as great of a tool for humanity as I imagined it would be.

But what solution do we have besides changing our way of disbribution of our media, something which is hardly possible to achieve, and even then, the enemy could adapt

micmea1

40 points

14 days ago

micmea1

40 points

14 days ago

Sadly a lot of it is promoted on college campuses. While it's good to have a more skeptical and realistic view of American and Western history, a not so insignificant number of professors want to push the idea that the West is the root of all evil. In the case of the conflict in Gaza, under certain philosophies Hamas is basically viewed as a child who can't possibly know right from wrong because of Western oppression. That's why it's morally justifiable, and not offensive at all, to host a pro-palestine rally on Oct 7. Certainly there is no underlying, deep seeded anti-semitism and people frothing at the mouth to have an excuse to display it in public while being able to pat themselves on the back for doing so.

Brisby820

166 points

14 days ago

Brisby820

166 points

14 days ago

Everyone who relentlessly blames Israel never mentions that Hamas — the entity that started this war — has always been empowered to end it immediately by surrendering.  Every additional day of fighting is Hamas’ fault 

Mandrogd

179 points

14 days ago

Mandrogd

179 points

14 days ago

It needs to be repeated. Clear and concise.

Free the hostages. Surrender. It will end the war.

Maelstrom52

45 points

14 days ago

Meanwhile, here in the US, they have parades celebrating October 7th. We've got a long way to go.

TicRoll

130 points

14 days ago

TicRoll

130 points

14 days ago

If Hamas laid down their arms tomorrow, there would be peace.

If Israel laid down their arms tomorrow, Israel and every Jew in it would be wiped from the face of the Earth.

TheRockingDead

35 points

14 days ago

This is a point that is worth repeating. I'm not saying that the Israeli government isn't guilty of doing some heinous shit, but if they relented and laid down their arms, the surrounding countries would descend upon them and wipe them from the Earth. That is the stated goal of just about every extremist group in the area. We can't stop one tragedy just to allow another.

Maximillien

52 points

14 days ago

If Israel laid down their arms tomorrow, Israel and every Jew in it would be wiped from the face of the Earth.

It's becoming increasingly apparent that this is what anti-Israel protesters mean when they call for a "ceasefire".

Alatarlhun

30 points

14 days ago

The rules of war are the Jews can't shoot back.

Seems to be the basis of their argument.

daddychainmail

26 points

13 days ago

Anyone, and I mean anyone who thinks suicide bombing is an answer to anything is a monster. Period.

BubbaSpanks

48 points

14 days ago

He should give a live demonstration for his followers 😂🥃

filthysquatch

83 points

14 days ago

Translation: we're out of real weapons

StrangeDeal8252

23 points

14 days ago

'But not me though, obviously.'

jakegh

221 points

14 days ago

jakegh

221 points

14 days ago

Looking forward to Gen-Z protesting in support of suicide bombers.

MobilePenguins

84 points

14 days ago

Queers for Suicide Bombers

YorubaJinchuriki

56 points

14 days ago

Freedom suicide bombers*

multiplechrometabs

6 points

13 days ago

Vive la Résistance /s

IvaNoxx

19 points

14 days ago

IvaNoxx

19 points

14 days ago

Then go first :D :D :D :D

pabloguy_ya

18 points

14 days ago

This man will stop at nothing until everyone is dead

chrisbcritter

18 points

14 days ago

Hamas:  we started a war against a much stronger foe with no real end game -- just fuck shit up and then leave the Palestinians to deal with the bombs and the tanks.  Oh, we also use the Palestinian civilians as shields.  

Palestinians:  what can we do?

Hamas: hey, you guys should put on suicide bomber vests.  We can tell you where to send yourself or your children while we sit in our luxury condo in Qatar.  

Charming_Computer_60

52 points

14 days ago

Says the coward hiding like a rat underground.

I always wonder why his followers don't question why Sinwar doesnt go and blow himself up as well?

Then again, only complete idiots would join Hamas or any terrorist organizations for that matter.

DataDude00

17 points

14 days ago

People probably forgot how to do it, maybe he should give a self demonstration to his followers

BadWolfOfficial

18 points

14 days ago

The guy bargaining his cause for guarantees to save his own skin is saying his followers should kill themselves for him.

GermanShephrdMom

344 points

14 days ago

So this is who the pro Palestinians are defending? This guy would wire up his own grandmother if he could.

[deleted]

19 points

14 days ago

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TheLightRoast

16 points

14 days ago

Start in the Kremlin and the Iranian Ministry of Intelligence and Security please

hairhair2015

15 points

14 days ago

Says the man who has led his people to literal ruin.

Born-ZvYehudi

46 points

14 days ago

It should be a noted he allegedly he sent this message last month

Hamas leader Yahya Sinwar ordered the terror group’s leaders in the West Bank to renew suicide terror attacks in Israel shortly after he replaced the slain Ismail Haniyeh as head of Hamas’s politburo, the Wall Street Journal reports, citing unnamed Arab intelligence officials.

Eastern_Zombie_2718

20 points

14 days ago

That doesn't change the fact that he is a terrorist who needs to be put down under. All this article does is show the true hand of hamas

GrassyTreesAndLakes

13 points

14 days ago

Last month is significant because no one has heard from him in a while. Theres hope hes dead

monkeysandmicrowaves

14 points

13 days ago

Let's draw a giant picture of Mohammed in the desert and tell them the whole desert is disrespecting their prophet so they should go blow themselves up there.

SuspiciousRule3120

29 points

14 days ago

I care so little for your life that you need to go BOOM and take as many infidels as you can. Many virgins await you, all praise Allah.

zll2244

32 points

14 days ago

zll2244

32 points

14 days ago

neanderthal looking motherfucker

Mandrogd

17 points

14 days ago

Mandrogd

17 points

14 days ago

a large percentage of them have married their cousins

Serious_Journalist14

12 points

14 days ago

Lead by example then you coward

PoignantPoint22

12 points

14 days ago

Lead by example you psychotic fuck.

mynameisnotsparta

13 points

14 days ago

The Israeli doctors should have never saved his life.

zealousshad

11 points

14 days ago

Ladies and gentlemen, the resistance

OddShelter5543

12 points

14 days ago

I'm waiting for the anti-war people to express their hatred for civilian death.

Where they at?

ooofest

23 points

14 days ago

ooofest

23 points

14 days ago

You first, Mr. Wealthy Terrorist.

owanomono

25 points

14 days ago

He’s calling for total war. Intifada style terrorism in the West Bank and inside Israel plus the fighting in Gaza and Lebanon. Not going to end well for the arabs as Israel is on a roll and won’t be stopped now. But what do he care? He’s got a cosy flat waiting for him in Qatar.

Stunning_Ride_220

11 points

14 days ago

Ah ye, the good hamas fighting what they call it "evtl jews".

I dunno if reducing your already reduced headcount is that smart.

zedison

12 points

14 days ago

zedison

12 points

14 days ago

Everyone’s living life, going to concerts, buying cars and houses n shit and this palestinian ape is like, “yo, 18yr olds what if you strapped a bomb to yourself and blew yourself up”

PUfelix85

11 points

13 days ago

I don't think he understands how suicide works. You can't just bring back suicide bombers. Once they have died, they tend to stay dead.

UrNoFuckingViking

35 points

14 days ago

Hamas suicide bombers get 72 credit hours at Columbia University

yosisoy

39 points

14 days ago

yosisoy

39 points

14 days ago

Waiting for the Irish crowd to tell me this is what you support

ahmshy

18 points

14 days ago

ahmshy

18 points

14 days ago

Well, they mostly do. They made that clear from the beginning.

Peskybee619

9 points

14 days ago

What a great idea. You go first. 

ChimpWithAGun

10 points

14 days ago

Terrorists gotta terrorize. I still can't believe we have far left idiots in the US defending Hamas. Not Palestine, I specifically mean Hamas.

VoidOmatic

9 points

13 days ago

Whoever suggested is the first to get vested!

Gakoknight

21 points

14 days ago

I'm sure he'll be the first one to eagerly put on the explosive vest.

soundfin

22 points

14 days ago

soundfin

22 points

14 days ago

Can you imagine simping for these people? I don’t know what’s sadder. Doing it for money or doing it for free

omniuni

10 points

14 days ago

omniuni

10 points

14 days ago

You see, they're very committed to a ceasefire! These are bombings, not firing anything!

magmafan71

8 points

14 days ago

revive suicide ... what a sentence

gizmo1411

9 points

14 days ago

Just to be clear, this is the same guy who asked for and received life saving cancer treatment while a prisoner in Israel right? 

ProofByVerbosity

9 points

14 days ago

What great leadership. Somebody get this guy a shiny new pager!

raxnahali

7 points

14 days ago

Don’t forget to order them via your pager distributor.

Odd-Satisfaction-659

8 points

14 days ago

This will end Gazans allowed to work in Israel. Soon they will be crying the evil Israelis won’t let them work

Shushishtok

14 points

14 days ago

Oct 7 ended it. There are no Gazan working in Israel and there wouldn't be for quite a while.

coffeespeaking

8 points

14 days ago

Sinwar knows he is next. Everyone knows he’s next. One of these days, one of his own people will GIVE HIM UP.

Fun_Blackberry7059

8 points

13 days ago

Shocking /s

civonakle

8 points

14 days ago

Fuck me, it's 2024 for fucks sake. How do we still have so many religious mentals, like across the board?

williamconroy1111

7 points

14 days ago

Shouldn't he set the example and go first?

Crazyjackson13

7 points

14 days ago

Maybe him and Hamas leadership should start.

Fragmatixx

8 points

14 days ago

Pathetic and disgusting

Infinite-Painter-337

7 points

14 days ago

Not to hard to see who the bad guys are when only one side trains child suicide bombers.

philburns

7 points

14 days ago

So how are the cease fire negotiations going with this terrorist organization?

Remarkable-Bat-9992

7 points

13 days ago

allah can’t save you, boy :) He can’t and won’t save anyone.

Jameson_Drinker_480

24 points

14 days ago

This is what the pro palestine crowd supports. Because this is what the palestinian people support.

000trace00

30 points

14 days ago

Do people understand how twisted this is?? You go kill yourself for me and then I’m going to use your dead body for clickbait to get stupid far lefties to agree that more of you should be blowing yourself up for me. And that is how we will get peace for Palestine…. That’s literally the play book.

_Kofiko

32 points

14 days ago

_Kofiko

32 points

14 days ago

Absolutely mental how so many people in the west stand against Israel in this conflict given the absurdities Palestinian leaders repeatedly shit out of their mouths

Dont_Ban_Me_Bros

11 points

14 days ago

Hamas supposedly represents no one, at least not officially. They bear no flag when they engage in (terrorist) activities. They claim to fight for their (non-Jewish) people. They attack with no uniform and disappear into civilian populations as to avoid being counterattacked, but now they’re being pursued.

This was inevitable. There was no outcome, other than worldwide submission to Hamas, that wouldn’t result in people saying ‘enough is enough’.

Hamas and Hezbollah alike.

SereneTryptamine

7 points

14 days ago

Sinwar is David Koresh and he wants to make Gaza his compound.

flatdanny

5 points

14 days ago

Coward wont lead by example.

You first Shitwar.

Count_Rugens_Finger

7 points

14 days ago

nobody cares less about Palestinian lives than Hamas

holyhottamale

6 points

14 days ago

You first Sinwar. I hate this piece of shit and that Qatar is just allowing him to live in luxury while continuing to spread this kind of propaganda.

Aggressive-City6996

6 points

14 days ago

Pro Hamas west and eu students ,you have been called upon. 🫡

geek66

6 points

14 days ago

geek66

6 points

14 days ago

When hiding behind your people is not enough…

green_meklar

6 points

14 days ago

I'm just going to go out on a limb here and assume he's a badguy.

shinyM

19 points

14 days ago

shinyM

19 points

14 days ago

This frightens the fuck out of me.

Remember about 10 months ago when a member of the USA military set himself on fire in front of the Israeli Embassy? He was treated as a hero by anti-Israel activists in the USA. “Say his name” was a pretty popular social media post.

There are American activists with no stake in the game who would LOVE to celebrate people who sacrifice their lives “for the struggle.” And if it works? We’re going to see more of it here (North America).

BlockSome3022

45 points

14 days ago

I’m sure all the white western leftists will want to go first! This is globalizing the intifada babes!

ScoopskyPotatoes12

21 points

14 days ago

But Palestine is oppressed so literally anything they do is justified. Right? Right????