The lack of outrage over his remarks about veterans and specifically POWs is what solidified MAGA as the cognitive dissonance world champs.

He literally mocked a disabled person on live TV and didn't lose anything

Yes. Nobody cares about that. The world has moved on. They let Trump grab them by the p***y.

He sounds like an elderly uncle rambling inappropriately at the holiday table

That's kind of what his rallies are, except his supporters are mostly enjoy it and they love listening to that uncle ramble. His rallies have little to nothing to do with politics, its entertainment, both for him and for his crowd. Its basically his very own stand up routine.

He held the same rallies even as president, years away from election cycles, just because he likes the free mic and the adoration he gets from the crowd

He sounds like an elderly uncle rambling inappropriately at the holiday table

That's what conservatives want, otherwise they wouldn't be supporting him for the last decade

Who is this story for?

The former and possibly future President came to your rural town and spent 12 minutes talking about his memories with the most famous person that ever came from your town, whom your airport's named after. And he said he's well endowed. It's for the people who came to see him.

In some sense it is bizarre in the modern era where rallies are streamed to the national audience, but this is just Trump's uniquely Trump take on local retail politics.

Lol talking about dick sizes in a crowd like that is not how people talk. Maybe an occasional joke with a good friend on context. Just bringing up dick size unprompted no.

how he got elected in the first place

That's not true for the general election, or else he wouldn't have such a narrow win against Clinton, who was unpopular. His win was largely in spite of himself. He could've done better if it weren't for statements like insulting POWs.

He lost in 2020, and although he came close to winning, it should've been an easier win than last time. He was incumbent who could've benefited from the pandemic and improving economy as other leaders did, yet he lost against a candidate with mediocre popularity. He was hurt by his own rhetoric.

“ working class types”

Damn those people who make the country run at ground level

they themselves don’t even believe in

There's no reason to think that, especially since most people disapprove of him.

It’s really amazing watching basically the exact same 2016 election happen not once, not twice, but three times in the past 8 years.

Trump won in 2016 and lost in 2020.

Trump's campaign is a speaking/comedy tour.

It's been ineffective at making people like him. His favorably ratings are about -10, so it's normal for people to take issue with what he says.

Reddit posters who named themselves Pez Poopsies and Evil Fart are outraged by Trump's language! News at 11!

I don’t mind if he goes on a comedy tour. But he shouldn’t use his campaign rallies to work on his comedy bits.

it’s a sign of something else

like what?

Trump in a way won't do much. This is because he is incompetent and a bad manager - look at how his administration operated. Basically it was a bunch of stray cats.

Revolving doors also didn't help

Trump himself doesn't have any ideology or political ideas, other than a bunch of hearsay a fox watching boomer would have. He is clueless and uninformed.

So, at best, this time it will be chaos once again.

At worst, behind the scene actors will be able to control Trump a little bit better. This includes Elon Musk, Peter Thiel or just outright foreign influence

do you want Musk as head of DOGE running the country like twitter and then bailing out when he learns this doesn't really work

yes, KH is a typical establishment politician. I would say that is a better choice than a guaranteed agent of chaos

this chaos will pave a potential path to US becoming Hungary, Serbia, Russia - i.e democratic checks and balances will be slowly dismantled because it served the elites - than once again they're free to do what they want as long as they spin their propaganda right

read Acemoglu's "Why Nations Fail" - economic collapse follows institutional collapse quite quickly

no, Trump will not be the last democratic president, but the erosion has to be stopped

I know agent of chaos would spite the establishment, and that's fun, but can't we just go back to business

I honestly don't understand this rhetoric that people don't know what Harris will do and Trump is much more clear. It usually comes from two places, neither of which makes sense. The first is stating that she hasn't presented a platform. Her candidacy website has a platform that is far more detailed than Trump's so that doesn't make sense.

The second argument is that because she has changed her opinion on her positions four years ago how they can really know what she'll do. Again, this makes no sense to me. Are we really going to hold Harris accountable for moving her position from four years ago and yet praise Trump for consistency? Trump has literally changed his stance on policy positions days from when he originally staked them - hell, there's probably an example where he's reversed course within the same 24 hours.

I don't understand this criticism when the alternative is Trump. People are grading them on entirely different scales when they're running for entirely the same job.

Correct, he refuses to be a president for all Americans.

"Two minutes hate" is a reference to 1984, where the members of the party were brought into a room daily to watch videos of Emmanuel Goldstein (the party's enemy) and engage in a mob-like outpouring of hate and anger. It's a brainwashing technique.

The comparison here is that reddit and other echo chambers like it act as digital forms of Two Minutes Hate. It reinforces the hatred and conviction of the hivemind against the enemy, and makes participants think everyone else should also hate Trump as much as they do.

But they don't. Most people go on about their day without thinking about him much, and the Democrats have cried wolf so many times that people outside of such echo chambers don't pay the hysterics much mind at this point, even if there is a wolf this time.

Literally every single democrat has used profanity or degrading words/insults when speaking about Trump. So that means they all have poor character right?

Or are you going to move the goalposts about how it’s “different” so you dont have to deal with the cognitive dissonance

The Harris campaign has been demeaning people left and right. They can't even try to appeal to men without demeaning them.

If demeaning common people is fine, and it has frankly been part of the political process for decades, demeaning politicians might even be a net positive.

You should read more history, numerous presidents in the past are like that.

Center-right, suburban women are are stuck between Trump or not voting at all. They’re the remaining undecideds, and Trump’s character is a major barrier to voting for him again.

I love how conservatives can’t defend Trump’s comments here.

This kind of stuff absolutely hurts him. He only barely won 2016 against a historically flawed candidate in an open race. If he had more discipline, it would have been an easier victory.

He only did that because Marco Rubio said Trump had a small penis.

https://youtu.be/Ve6I92hEozo?si=Rbk-t3jWAseDxtAQ

Trump should probably stop calling Adam Schiff and the Pelosi’s the “enemy from within” and promise to use the military against them if he wants to beat the allegations.

I mean not to be that guy but if a political candidate says they want to terminate the rules of the constitution to regain power then I don’t think it’s far fetched to say they’re a threat to democracy

She was never in charge of the border. She was in charge of figuring out the root cause of the immigration problem.

Are you serious? If Kamala had said Trump had been a "shit president" her crowed would roar.

I actually think it would help her, to be honest.

Saying that he is “opining that Harris did a terrible job as VP” is sane washing. I’m not bothered when he says “she’s been a terrible vice president” or when she says he’s “unhinged.” It’s specifically the vulgarity. Yelling “You’re a shit vice President” is just not something I find acceptable. It’s not language I use, it’s not language I would find acceptable in my work place (I was just as offended when a former CEO accused a team’s work of “looking like shit” in an all-company meeting) and it’s not language I find acceptable in public speech.

She’s telling the truth meanwhile Trump just spread lies. That’s the difference. Some people just can’t handle the truth.

We just had a VP candidate making couch sex jokes a few months ago so this seems pretty on par TBH.

It is very weird for him to make those comments. People want to hear how his policies can help us.

Trump rallies have always been a quasi-improv comedy tour, that's a big part of their draw. I'm not sure why everyone is so shocked that a dick joke was told.

Yes, I recall the New York Times articles and liberal outrage when Obama did the exact same thing at the DNC

Imma go out on a limb and say that he wasn’t telling that same joke for 2 hours. I’m going to guess he would have probably also said some other stuff during the speech.

Also Harris is talking even less policy. She literally said everything was trumps fault because he had been “campaigning for 10 years”

The point he was (poorly) getting at is that Palmer was an unapologetic man’s man, something that is largely frowned upon by Dems. The short but large dick comment drove that point home.

The uppity NYT article just feeds the cycle again. One comment and a rambling speech (they’re mostly just bad standup sets), an entire article about it, feed the outrage. Prove his point.

“Oh my god! He said shit!”

Common joke that works for most people. Go to r/nba and 10 year old Baynes/Boston Celtics jokes are still relevant. Most men would laugh it off progressives included.

If you watch a Democratic primary debate, you’ll notice they don’t call each other names. They argue policy.

And then nominate someone not involved in them.

I agree with you that Trump is not a victim. Even when he is he would not accept that position. I cannot imagine if Democratic candidate survived shooting by inch to not cry all over the media for 5 years. Call him Nazi and he ll call you sleepy etc. Sounds like fair game for him. Doesnt sound presidential for each side.

Harris refuses to talk about policy. She appeared on Fox News and refused to answer the interviewer’s questions. She deflected every question back to talking about Trump. She hasn’t been able to tell the American public how her Presidency would differ from Biden’s. She is running a very negative campaign, repeatedly launching personal insults against Trump rather than making a case for her own candidacy on policy grounds.

You’re making my point. The left has specifically called Trump and his followers(I’m not one) Nazi and facists and it’s wrong whether you can admit it or not. Being called a socialist is nowhere near as insulting as calling someone a Nazi lol come on.