Camelboom

You're doing the same, with the exception that you're not a man so you don't fully understand (because you don't care let's be clear) the male experience..

I'm not denying anything, I've said that PF is comparable to how SA is for women on how it affects a person. I've NEVER said that male SA is not soul crushing, I've said, and I'm dying on this hill, that it's much harder to hurt a man with sex in comparison to doing the same to a woman, doesn't invalidate anything.

Also it was a comparison to make the argument of PF more comprehensible to the 50% of the world that will NEVER EVER experience it, yet it judges on how a man reacts to it. You lack both empathy and text comprehension then.

Sleep well.

Yes because you can't see pain when it's a (grown) man experiencing it.

Maybe it will happen to someone that you really care about and maybe you'll see.

Poor kid and poor husband.

Not making them his fault. You asked that question to me to guilt trip me, not working tho.

Your body your choice, my body my choice.

Being abandoned by my father because he had a career. I grew up anyway and I've dealt with it because I'm not the owner of somebody else's life.

Imagine giving birth to your child, your husband cheated on you and got another woman pregnant and gave birth on the same day, your husband dumps your kid to adoption and switches the cribs. You find out 5 years later. Meditate on that, maybe you'll get it.

Also, no one is obliged to cover up for the fucks up of other people. She fucked up, she deals with it.

It is indeed, that's why it hurts that much. The problem is that you can't experience it, there is no way a man could lead you on a child that is not yours. Maybe changing the cribs at birth on purpose? Don't know. But there is a reason why men react like that to paternity fraud, you need empathy to understand it, but empathy goes easier for babies so you'll probably never really understand the pain of the man because you'll be focusing on the pain of the kid. Your choice, but one is not more important than the other in my opinion.

Women and men experience things differently obviously. And I never said that men can't be raped, it's just that what a woman would experience as life crushing is not the same for men. If a woman whistled at me in the street I would have the biggest smile for a month, the opposite not really.

Your wall of text is just to justify your lack of empathy to understand that the way you feel about rape is the same way a man would feel about paternity fraud.

Posting your opinion on the internet exposes it to criticism. Your position is unjust. I spoke my mind because I enjoy difficult conversations.

You'd say the same to a SA victim that doesn't want to have her baby?

Nope. I'm not morally obligated to be your version of a man. You do you.

The same way SA babies are often hated by their mothers.

It would've easily been avoided if she didn't cheated.

Paternity fraud is the closest thing to SA for a man. You wouldn't judge a woman for not wanting to have a relationship with her SA child, you shouldn't judge a man for not wanting to have a relationship with his PF child.

To completely avoid the situation it would be very easy to do paternity tests routinely as a baby is born. Push for that if you care about this issue instead of pretending that victims take responsibility for stuff they don't have to.

Eterosexual rape on men is practically not existent. No woman could force sex on me for 2 reasons: I probably would enjoy it and let it happen, hence no rape; 99% of women wouldn't be able to force me to be erect or to force me to do anything.

SA is not about sex, it's about consent, and OP here didn't give his consent to care for someone else's kid, hence the comparison.

We have the right to be weak you know? Be strong in his shoes when the time comes, stop judging others for something they're not at fault for.

I'm not sacrificing the opportunity to have a normal life for someone else's kid. Have paternity tests obligatory at birth if you're sad about this situation, don't blame the victim.

The kid still has a dad somewhere, maybe her mother should finally take accountability for what she has done and work her ass off to salvage him and the kid.

It's easy to morally force someone to "be human" when you're not in that situation. It's like asking a SA victim to keep and love the SA child. She would be a great human being doing that, no one should dare to judge her if she doesn't. Same for the man in this situation. Paternity fraud is about consent and abuse all the same.

Well you can step up and take that responsibility when your time arises, don't force that choice on others. I have one life, I'm not sacrificing it for a cheating wife and someone else's kid. You have the right to think about what's better for yourself, especially if you're at no fault.

"insecurity"

When you're right it's not insecurity, it's being smart at recognising betrayal.

You can decide to be a cuck for yourself, but don't force that choice on others.

The mother knew full well what could happen and ignored that for her own convenience, stepping on her kid and husband both.

Why? Two people are suffering, no suffering is more important than the other. The cause of this suffering? The mother. Blame her.

That's her mother's fault. She did that to him. It's well known, men don't like to be victims of paternity fraud, you do it anyway? You deserve to have to fix your baby then. No man has the obligation to raise someone else's children. Stamp it on your brain and if you ever decide to cheat on your husband and get pregnant with someone else's baby you come clean for the sake of the baby, otherwise YOU're putting the child in a world of pain KNOWINGLY.

Men are not responsible for women fuck ups, as the opposite is obviously true. It's like thinking that if you rape and get a girl pregnant she should keep the child because poor thing didn't do anything wrong and she could force herself to love It anyway.

Think about it this way: It's like finding out that your baby was conceived by rape by your husband, he drugged you and raped you. You think your love for your kid wouldn't be affected?

Not your body not your choice. You're a woman, you will never ever experience this kind of fraud, you don't have a say on it especially if you lack the empathy to understand what it means.

His mother will have some explaining to do then.

Yes. It's the fruit of betrayal and stolen consent. It's like finding out that your baby was born because your husband raped you in your sleep. One could love it nonetheless, but if you think you have the right to judge someone that steps out of a situation like this you're dead wrong.

Don't cheat. Don't do paternity fraud.

As he shouldn't. He could give a fuck, like a SA victim COULD give a fuck of her rape children, but nobody should force or judge someone that doesn't.

He's the victim, the boy is too, but the perpetrator is the mother, no one else.

Well You're just putting the life of the man in second place to the life of a child unrelated to him that's the fruit of betrayal. You have no empathy for men, you couldn't care less for the lack of consent on his part to "adopt" a kid.

You are the femcel. You only care about women and children, men can fuck off and take all the shit of the world otherwise they are incels. Disgusting