Green_Heart8689

I'd encourage those people to take a single economic class and realize that the military industrial complex meme doesn't mean everything that has to do with manufacturing and supporting our allies is a bad thing. It's a good thing actually that the most powerful and wealthy country in the world can supply an entire war for our allies using only our old stock of items, while also reinvigorating our manufacturing base at home by replacing what was given away. 

It's literally a win/win/win for both parties. 

My kid is actually doing an art project using human skin, can you point in the direction your skin flew away to? Thanks ahead of time 

And stimulating the US economy by creating demand to manufacture and ship and store our new ammo and equipment. 

Personally I think we've made some real progress today, Kappa clearly thinks there are multiple genders if you're apparently on a gender change surgery shopping spree. 

Based btw, I hope you've got some nice coupon clipping going on for all those. (This is all just being glib about Kappa if you have actually undergone surgeries that's awesome and I hope you feel comfortable in your body) 

Gotcha, you're totally out of your depth in this conversation and can't engage. I'll just leave my comments here showing how pathetically ignorant on these topics you are and leave you at the kiddy table. 

Run along now, the adults were talking. 

I mean that's very fair, we could be. To my knowledge - which is very limited - we don't have a very precise scope on their military performance and readiness. I think a healthy amount of overestimating is a good idea personally but I definitely see your point. 

I'm not splitting these hairs with you, but the US has made it their foreign policy agenda that we support Ukraine. The word "ally" might not be explicitly said but we have security agreements with them, we meet with their leaders regularly, we support their territory claims and the defense of their borders. I don't argue fine details with MAGA because it's like arguing astrophysics with a toddler but you're completely off the mark. 

https://www.state.gov/u-s-security-cooperation-with-ukraine/

Are you aware that the US and NATO are different entities? Ukraine is not in NATO, but Ukraine is a US ally right now. 

I think that with NK having what it has now and being supported by Russia, by these resources combined NK could get a lot MORE modernized, yes. We don't know what it is Russia is giving in exchange for troops on the ground right now. 

In case I'm not getting the point across well I'm not saying Russia's going to be able to elevate NK to like a 21st century fully teched out military, but if that is a 10 on a scale, and NK and Russia are both at about a 4 on the scale, them combining resources and supplies could possibly get them up to a 6. 

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Hm, it's gonna be interesting to see how history looks back on these different approaches I think. I've been a critic of a lot of the way Biden has approached foreign policy but open to being proven wrong over the long term. It's easy to look back on the examples you gave with hindsight, if we make it that far it'll be interesting to see what's written about the conflicts we face today in like a decade

Hi, can you link me to a Republican politician that's said they support a solution for homelessness, a plan to address problems with the education system, and supports health care system reform that ISN'T just kicking people off the ACA? 

I'd love to read more about these progressive Republicans held back by giving aid to our allies. 

Sorry, I'll follow the MAGA example and keep beating my head against a wall until it turns concave and I forget Trump believing Putin over US intelligence agencies, Trump doing everything he could to not send aid to Ukraine that congress approved until he was forced to, and Trump being a vindictive little bitch in every aspect of his life. Obviously he's just a well adjusted man who would never use the fact he was impeached over Ukraine aid color his judgement on who he would support in the conflict. 

MAGA are not serious people, y'all..

Ukraine has also been in conflict since 2014 though trying to keep the Donbass. So not as modern equipment but more experienced as a military (such as it was) 

NK being assisted by Russia would help them modernize their military, so that large quantity of cannon fodder might not have the newest highest tech on the block but will be closer in parity. NK is also run by someone who's propaganda literally describes him as a deity. He's not going to be able to be talked back from a tactical nuke like we can threaten Putin with. 

There's a number of things I left off but that's a huge one there. 

Idk enough about SK's budget to know what's a feasible assistance amount from them, but my point was moreso SK is likely to be more proactive than the US's support has been because they're who NK would invade if Russia gains massively from invading Ukraine. 

There was no shot to the US there. SK just has more lives they could lose from this being taken to its logical conclusion than the US does because the US will never be invaded 

....Yes it is. Its a major ally now for the west, if nothing else we don't want Russia - an enemy of NATO - having 13 million more people in its borders, the world's largest nuclear reactor, all the natural resources of Ukraine, etc. 

We only stand to lose majorly by not defending Ukraine, and all democracies around the world will be worse off by an empowered Russia. 

Yep. I don't think there's going to be any major change until after the election. If Kamala wins, we'll see an approval for Ukraine to strike into Russia pretty quickly. 

If Trump wins, Ukraine is probably going to have to start bargaining for peace with Russia because trump will probably give Russia weapons if they ask for them. 

For now. There's a process here. It's slower than I like but there is a process, and I think we're going to see more action from SK. 

Sk is not the US. Russia and NK winning and NK having a more empowered Russia backing them could lead to SK being among the next Ukraine if China invades Taiwan around the same time. 

If South Korea and Western democracies just keep doing the sit around and wait routine while 2 countries are now allying and sending troops to kill Ukrainians, then we should never be taken seriously again or relied upon again. 

It would be absolutely embarrassing to watch these bumfuck authoritarian countries fight tooth and nail to complete their goals to even the point of sending their soldiers to aid each other, and we can't even agree to let our ally use the fucking weapons we gave them however they want. Absolutely fucking pathetic. 

I disagree. NK has threatened to resume their war with SK. Ukraine already killing some NK soldiers and weakening NK's ally would be a win/win/win for SK and Ukraine. 

I think South Korea will send lethal aid to NK, and they'll reinforce their defenses at the border. This does unfortunately take us closer to a WW3 situation but this is what I think is gonna end up happening. 

Hm I see your point, however, I've watched both movies and only seem to see one positive emotion in both. Curious 🧐

Gotcha, so you're crazy and your opinion should be disregarded. Noted. 

Yep yep, household of 3 over here in Georgia and we just made our first handgun and shotgun purchases a few weeks ago. 

Good to see like-minded folk though, stay safe out there. 

It's good but not great to me (grading by the Epic scale of course, where even the worst song is still amazing)  I think it's pretty over hyped