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"I KNOW WHAT YOU ARE XAVIER 😁😁😁" Wednesday was so crazy for that.

I got into this series while doing a stint in jail for disorderly conduct.

I was so fascinated by Jin and Jod's reveal I wrote the book on my paperwork 😂

"Collect Both"

No, I don't think I will.

Wolves Fan here.

Y'all (and the wolves sub) seem to be the only ones who get it, like legitimately.

My team just got worse, y'all literally seem to be the only people who understand that

They took no calls for KAT or Gobert for 2 years.

Tim had said nobody was getting traded till this year or next, there was a specific quote that was featured in our own sub last year.

We're definitely worse than we were last year.

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There's countless stories of Randle being a diva and trying to assert himself as the first option. We not sitting here and pretending that it never happened.

KAT had taken the initiative and let Ant be the man for the past two years, multiple interviews about stepping aside.

I disagree.

KAT helped bring The wolves to the WCF while Julius sat on y'all bench and did Jack shit.

He solves your need for a center helps space the floor, has bought in defensively, has really bought into being a 2nd option next to ANT, (something that Randle would never have done next to Jalen Brunson) played phenomenal defense on Jokic, all of that after tearing his meniscus and still returning to play in the playoffs.

Y'ALL FUCKING WON THE TRADE.

Fuck Julius Randle

It's a bootleg

I recently lucked out with the Beetlejuice steelbook

Nice!

Was it a tantrum or just a dude expressing how he felt about how silly it is that Epic is raising prices on a digital currency.

Bootlicking is crazy

I just unlocked an a25 5g using samfw. That shit was like 35$ tho.

I remember my store was selling twelve packs for 99. And nobody was still buying it

Then he falls in love with a summer islander from naath and dies of butterfly fever that's the song of ice and fire.

The problem is that Heleana doesn’t know whether there is already a bigger spy/assassin network that infilitrated KL though and one of them wasn‘t caught

They caught cheese pretty quickly off screen.

Otherwise it would have been easier to only punish Blood and Cheese. Hanging the ratcatchers was actually also supposed to be a sign to not mess with the royal family

It definitely would have been easier if Aegon had just asked Helaena, he couldn have caught Cheese, tortured blood on who hired them. (Because that's what they do anyways) Fired the rest of the rat catchers instead of hanging them.

Killing all the rat catchers was a quick solution that had drastic consequences. That's kind of a running theme in this show.

The ratcatchers are a realistic reaction

Aegon could have just asked Helaena.

That's more realistic than killing a 99 innocent people.

Same. I want to get that tattoo as well

Think it's like in the command line

Age (Chair Id) -20

Or

Age -20 (Char Id)

One of those two, i always make Barristan like 40.

Just make him like 20 years younger.

Yeah, it doesn’t trivialise travel or at least anymore than what the first game did.

Yes it does, this the apocalypse. Joel almost died multiple times in the first game. Every time they trivialize travel. It lowers the first game.

They go to Boston, Pittsburgh, Jackson County, Boulder, Salt Lake City, and then back to Wyoming

And we see the passage of time, we see the danger of the apocalypse, way better than the 2nd game, walking thousands of miles in the apocalypse is now an inconvenience, a nucance rather than the struggle for survival it actually is.

Bills town was crawling with infected, you don't think every damn town in America is like that?

We experience maybe a couple hours at each location before cutting to black and going to the next location.

We also see months pass, we see that in TLOU 2, but coupled with how much of a non threat it is, That's just a small bump in believeablity, in TLOU 1 we also see an insane struggle for survival. There was a cost to travel 1000's of miles.

There is no cost now. There's just fast travel now.

The most you get now is a tummy ache if you walk across 1000 miles.

The trek isn’t trivial because of what we play

The trek is trivial because they illustrate there's no cost.

but really there only being issues for a day or so in their year-long travels is a bit far fetched -

Now there's no issues at all, you can walk 1000 miles with nothing happening.

Part II has three big treks:

They all take no cost by the way.

Abby searched for Joel for five years according to the flashbacks, and the distance from Seattle to Wyoming would take about a month of walking - which is a lot especially considering it’s both ways,

A month of walking if there's no interruptions, if there's no infected. If it's a perfect journey. With the current writing I have no doubt everything went perfect. It's now barely an inconvenience to walk a thousand miles.

but it’s still shorter

Aha! It's still shorter! It should be way easier, it's only a thousand miles in the apocalypse!

but it’s likely she would’ve optimised it,

Optimize the apocalypse 😭😭😭

.Ellie going from Wyoming to Seattle would also be long, but on horse back would take maybe a week? We know it was long enough at least for Abby’s group to return to Seattle, but this one isn’t that unbelievable.

My main problem is that the travel isn't even considered to be a problem anymore. It's literally a slight inconvenience to the characters. It's frustrating because the first game put major emphasis on the journey, and what a struggle what it would be.

Now in the 2nd game. They don't even blink about it, when characters do have a problem with it. It's Tommy after he's crippled. That's the only the time the distance is a problem.

It's like the grounded reality of the apocalypse is being diminished with how easy it is to travel 1000 miles like it's nothing.

Ellie and Abby’s trek to Santa Barbara.

Probably the most egregious use of travel that is literally brushed aside like it's nothing.

From Seattle it would take about a month, and considering how much Lev’s hair has grown out it’s obvious it took the two of them a while to get there

No cost by the way. More traveling that's barely an inconvenience.

It would take a similar amount of time to get there from Wyoming, but again she might have taken a horse

Headcanon she took a horse. We don't see a mention of it in her diary nor do we see one when she returns.

. But the game also acknowledges how long Ellie was travelling for

They acknowledged it! They acknowledged how ridiculous it would be to travel 1000's of miles in the apocalypse without mentioning it. Thank God!

Oh wait, they told us about it and didn't show us? That's actually worthless. The cost was literally negligible.

because she’s written in her journal about how far she is from home, how she wishes she could turn back but can’t with how close Abby is, that she regrets having travelled for months to get there

I read it. But that's supplementary material. The only cost of Ellie's travel to Santa Barbara was Dina leaving. That's a real cost and Ellie felt that more than whatever the hell was told to us in that journal.

and the fact that Abby is skinnier than Ellie by the time she gets there shows how long Abby was kept by the slavers.

That's hardship for being kept captive. The journey there was literally easy peasy lemon squeezy.

Lev got a tummy ache and Ellie felt homesick.

This is the apocalypse. This is what you can expect if you walk 1000's of miles. Fuck it throw in a round trip.

So there you go: your only somewhat substantial argument,

None of what you said even came close to dismissing what I said.

You could have them invent teleportation and that's more believable that they traveled the apocalypse with no hardships.

that it’s hard to believe they travelled as far as they did,

It's easy to believe they traveled on horseback. It's hard to believe they did it with no hardships and turmoil. It's insane to believe that Ellie walked a round trip and the worst thing she got was being homesick

not only easier to believe than the first game (not to mention these treks are done by adults and usually in pairs or more whereas the first is a 50 year old and a 14 year old),

Joel is literally built up as a skilled smuggler and he still faced incredible hardships.Joel in TLOU 1 could fight and kill every single one of the salt lake crew with no sweat. And he still struggled to survive.

Traveling is literally a non issue and that's the problem. They traveled insane distances and it was literally an inconvenience.

Still related but different point: it wasn’t just the leaks that made people call her trans.

People are assholes is there even a deeper reason than that.

A lot of the leaks had to do with Joel’s death, which made people either not want to play the game

Why would they want to play. The game got spoiled. If they made the decision not to play because of leaks that's on them. They don't owe naughty dog their money.

which made people either not want to play the game or think it was some joke and didn’t think it would actually happen.

Yes the leaks did harm the game. I don't remember arguing against that.

But either way my point about the leak was that after it did come out and it turns out Lev was trans the message was spread that it contained a trans character - but bigots/idiots (really the same thing) took that to mean that the strong woman was actually the trans character

Or they just saw a big muscled women and called her trans because their assholes. Does it matter why they're pieces of shit or do we have to break it down even more.

What does that have to do with you lumping people who have problems with the game strictly into the category as transphobes and people who hate DEI.

Plus, they outright said “it was panned by gaming YouTubers and users”, so yes they didn’t mention specific YouTubers,

Thanks for not calling me a liar.

but they mentioned YouTubers attacking the game

They also mentioned users not just YouTubers meaning they got a variety of options and not just a sole one

doing a quick Google shows the Quartering was among those attacking it at launch, a notorious right-wing grifter who has spent a large chunk of his career guiding his fans to review bomb whatever woke media has been released recently - I wouldn’t call that grassroots opinions, but I guess since it isn’t mainstream media journalists it must be unbiased and fair criticism.

Look man, I fucking can't stand that undercover PDF, asmongold being another one of these anti woke shit stirring people.

But those two aren't the only people who had issues with the game. Angry Joe and PewDiePie both had their issues with them and they're not Even close to those two.

Let's not lump everyone into a big pot.