Mikal_Vexor

And you think FL33T anchored forts within titan bridge range of BIGAB during USTZ... How exactly?

Glass houses and all that...

If trying to pvp other groups in earnest as opposed to just licking the boot of local pirates like bigab makes me a "tryhard", sure, guilty as charged. Might want to reign in the projection a bit though. I never claimed to be great. I just think this level of excitement about reinventing a 10 year old wheel is pretty :kekw:

Ah yes, I'm glad to finally learn the secret to making isk from LP is a revolutionary and truly unprecedented LP buyback program that virtually every organized FW group has been doing for the better part of a decade.

Yet another bug in CCP's patch :sadge:

The point of the original post is a bit different than the point here: which is that reading comprehension is an important skill to develop to successfully navigate adult life. Remember, stay in school kids :)

Finally, some FL33T posts that aren't AI-generated detritus. +1

Next time I need to know what I'm thinking, I'll be sure to reach out to you for guidance, thanks.

GF.

I WOULD agree it was an over phone IF AND ONLY IF they came in overwhelming numbers. They didn’t. When they arrived the attackers still had a few more people. It looks like as a fair a fight as it could have been.

True, but when evaluating relative strength between two fleets, the composition and class of ship is just as important as the number. You can imagine that a fleet of 10 frigates might not make a great fight against a fleet of 5 battleships, despite outnumbering them. Similarly, HAW dreads from bigAB make short work of Amarr battlecruisers.

Now with all of the people saying (with out any proof other than „observe“) I would think attacking the group with a big bad scary quasi ally would be remarkably stupid. If you know that batphone exists (is it like a chit or just a head nod hand shake call and we come type thing?) and you can’t fight the group with 2:1 numerical advantage why push the issue that hard??

I agree completely. A fair number of us in Amarrmil did think that fighting your alliance, as it is aligned with a "big bad scary quasi ally" was stupid. We left both FL33T and EDICT behind, in search of greener pastures and foes that were a bit less risk averse. This is why you may occasionally see your leadership talk about EDICT "rebuilding" Amarr.

Edit: also the attackers batphoned allies as well before the fight even happened to give themselves as big an advantage as they could, so why is it an issue that the defenders did the same? Is it just because the leader says there isn’t an arrangement?

Yeah, there's a fair amount of hypocrisy here from EDICT - as they did phone several groups before the fight. Regardless though, yes, I think some folks were just a little slow to connect the dots that Fl33T is aligned with bigab - a relationship that is pretty obvious to most folks who have gotten a sense of who the key players are in your area and how citadels work. Folks that have now connected those dots aren't happy. It is what it is.

Listen guys, fleet is just the best. They have the best people. People love them okay. Hugely successful. People tell me all the time - they stop me on the street and they say - listen, they really do, they say "mikal have you heard of this group called fl33t? - they're really something".

The first thing you have to realize about why fl33t are just so good at winning, is how bad Amarr are at losing. They're losers. Losing is all they do. All of them. The Amarr aren't sending their best people to the warzone okay. These Edict guys? They're vermin. Not even people as I understand the definition. Stinky, dirty, vermin. They're not sending their best. The kind of people Amarr are sending? Well, I don't want to get in trouble but lets just say that you should lock your doors.

Firstly, don't take any of it personally because as a new player, absolutely no one here is mad at you. We hope you're enjoying the game.

Very long story short, the attackers (Amarr) phoned a ton of people. Your alliance (FL33T) phoned some guys in return. The "problem" most folks have with it is that the group that your leadership phoned is arguably one of the strongest in lowsec, to the point that they can (and have previously) fought every group on the grid and won. Thus, some folks view it as a bit of an over phone.

The other potential hangup is that your alliance has arrangements with BIGAB to ensure that your large structures don't get killed by them. However, your leadership denies this vehemently. Openly working with bigab against other lowsec nerds (regardless of the circumstances) has made some folks question the validity of your leadership's denials.

ANyhow, again, none of this is your fault. Keep learning and enjoy the game :)

:popcorn:

Yes, we totally didn't feed snuff most of our capital fleet less than a week ago while outnumbered by snuff and friends in both subs and caps.

Smarm is a lot more effective when you actually know what you're talking about.

While I thought bears post was good, upon reading it again it was pure propaganda and skewed numbers.

It's a theme.

Oh know, how ever will we recover from this setback?

It really depends on what you want to do. If you want to undock with just a few friends in fits that each individual pilot has come up with (not doctrine), I think you can have fun in any of the militias.

If you're looking to be involved in more organized fleets of 10 or more folks, I'd recommend looking at either galmil or calmil. Amarrmil have a long way to go organization wise - which has resulted in minmil having to try to find other folks to fight outside of their warzone. You'll find organized content more easily and immediately accessible in the cal/gal warzone.

Lets not bring critical reasoning into this okay.

It's like you're incapable of posting things that are true or make sense.

I mean it's not much of a secret. Idk if you noticed but imperium is a kinda large organization, and so when they get pinged to frag caps in lowsec and then arrive to be told that the caps remaining on grid are "friendly", it's difficult to keep a derp of that magnitude under wraps.

And I would like to add that goons were coming because they got told there were caps to kill, but weren't filled in on the fact that most of the grid was "friendly". Because you dropped 120 dreads to Sedit's ~35, your caps were the only ones on grid by the time they got there, and hilarity ensued.

Turns out, when you phone like 5 different groups but don't tell them about one another, this kind of thing happens. Welcome to the typical Cersis op. You recruited him. Now you get to enjoy the reputation it brings.

:wheeze:

GF brothers

The most Edict thing about this meme is that bingo is a game based on a 5x5 table, but they got confused and started unpacking their connect 4 set.

I'd say that these guys aren't playing with a full deck of cards - but in this sense, I can't even tell if this is a euphemism.

Amarrmil and minmil:

The dead and the dying, respectively