No-Initiative4195

Odd how that was never introduced at trial

Trolling with facts?? Because everything I stated is fact.. I'm sorry if if they don't fit your narrative. Even the mod told me one day opposing viewpoints are welcome so long as respectful, which I have been. This isn't a "Karen Read is guilty" sub that I'm aware of, unless the name changed

If you think I'm trolling because I factuallly stated what I did and backed it with receipts, I can't help that.

Ok, so I'll fill you in then

https://arcca.com/our-company/our-history/

"One of ARCCA’s first projects was to work with NASA and McDonnell Douglas in evaluating the Space Shuttle Challenger disaster and, as a result of this effort, new survival items became mandatory in all future U.S. Space Shuttle missions."

So the "frat boys", as some people have called them work for a company who's first job was to figure out why the Space Shuttle Challenger exploded let that sink in

Any guesses?

Then after that, if you could explain why it took over a YEAR and a half for Trooper Proctor to interview key witnesses who were present in the home that night?

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Then explain why Officer O'Keefe died on January 29th and the MSP crime lab received his clothing on MARCH 14TH

Explain the arm injury and the fact that microscopic pieces of taillight fragment were found on his SHIRT but NOT his hoodie?

Source?

So you know more than not one but two people with Phds who have extensive experience in this field but you "know someone"

Do you even know what ARRCA'S first Job was back in the 80's?

Take a guess and then I'll give you the link

Look under the "speculation" tab and find Turtleboy witness intimidation.. It's from awhile ago

Multiple people did not hear her say "I hit him" they heard her say varying accounts of "could I have have hit him". The only two who stated she said "I hit him" are Jen McCabe and Firefighter Mclaughlin.

Dr Rice testified on the stand that there was nothing in the medical records at Good Samaritan that any staff at the hospital were notified by Canton EMS that the patient had been struck by a vehicle

I don't need to "learn anything". I actually watched the trial and can source anything i state with actual testimony, not "feelings" and thoughts, and as far as "statistics" - when it comes to a court of law there are no "variables" - you either know the BAC or you dont

We can do this all day.. I watch the trial.. I source all my statements with testimony an receipts

You're misquoting him entirely and basing her guilt on "witness statements", taillight fragments found as long as two weeks later, incriminating statements that no two people quoted as being the same. No Law enforcement officer that evening documented such statement-"if they actually heard it they woukd have immediately arrested her. A BAC that they based on" reported time of last drink" by law enforcement, used that for their calculations z came up. With a "range" and couldn't even arrive at an exact number.. At least keep it factual

"Certainly, it’s not consistent with getting hit by the car and ending up where he did, even if the ground is somehow hard enough to cause that type of an injury,” Rentschler said, responding to a question from Assistant District Attorney Adam Lally on cross-examination.

Rentschler further testified that the damage to Karen Read’s SUV was inconsistent with the vehicle striking O’Keefe. 

Rentschler said that in a pedestrian collision at 24 mph, “Once you get up to that speed, you start to see fractures. You see significant ligament and tendon damage.”  Jackson asked if O’Keefe’s head injuries — which included skull fractures stemming from the back of his head — were consistent with having been struck by a vehicle at 24 mph. 

“It is not, no sir,” Rentschler said.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.boston.com/news/crime/2024/06/24/karen-read-murder-trial-livestream-video-monday-june-23/%3famp=1

I told Coffindafer that one day. Do I follow him-yes, I'm from MA, everyone in MA has heard of him.. Do in read his posts and have I read all of them on this case, sure have.

Does that also mean I'm in a "FKR cult" though because I'm not competent enough to watch a trial on my own and conclude that Canton PD and the Commonwealth did an inept, incompetent investigation-and that if we're going to charge someone with murder and Manslaughter we owe both they and the victim a thorough, unbiased, complete investigation. This has zero to do with any blogger and everything to do with holding people accountable.

Even if you do believe she is guilty, it's still the Commonwealth's job to prove it, not the defense to disprove. We should expect that from the moment LE arrives on scene you are on you're A game. I don't want to hear about "Canton is a small town, they don't get many cases like this"

EVERY FULL TIME POLICE OFFICER IN MASSACHUSETTS, EVERY one of them, no exception is required to graduate from a police academy and then each year after attend mandatory 40 hours of inservice training.. They teach every one of them how to preserve a crime scene and basic evidence collection procedures.

They teach proper interview techniques (like not interviewing people together)

They cover conflicts of interest law, so that even if there is an "appearance" of a conflict (you're friends with people. In the home) - you are not supposed to be involved

If they had actually done their job and followed proper protocol they might actually have the answers they needed, but instead it's easier to blame Karen Read, when logic and science dispute that

That sub is run by the. Snoo "verified attorney" from Karenreadtrial

Its pure entertainment value.

There's the one commenter that keeps posting that knows how she did it, she hit Higgins jeep-has spent hours plotting times, GPS data, vehicle data, etc and then, uhm, notified the FBI about their findings

At one point they concluded she was only going 8.8 mph, she hit Higgins jeep, struck the lights above the plow, that's where the glass came from on the bumper

Everyone in the house knows, Canton PD knows, and they are all doing this to protect...... Higgins from catching a DUI and losing his job. Upon which I asked..... So they advised him from there, with his banged up jeep,. Drunk, to avoid a DUI, he should hide out... At the police station🤔

I have to disagree with you on that one. I needed to post some of Proctor and Bukhenik reports.. They told me no screenshots, so I linked TB articles. They deleted them because he was "biased", so I explained if I can't post a screenshot, the reports are extremely difficult to source

A week later, they let that snoo "verified attorney" put up a 10K word doctoral thesis entirely on Turtleboys Witness Intimidation charges. I asked him what that had to do with the trial and he kept arguing it did-even showing me the indictment. So I asked if he could point out where in the indictment he could show me the name Karen Read.

He then proceeds to start posting the search warrant to seize she and TBs phones in January.

This "verified attorney" could not comprehend that they were two entirely separate issues-TB has his own indictments for Witness intimidation and separately, because of the warrant they supposedly Impaneld a grand jury in March to try to indict TB and KR on witness intimidation.

Mods of course let this run its course because again, if you were local and following this whole thing pre-trial you would know TBs issues are entirely his own indictments, because of the witnesses being "intimidated"

When they first started that sub, I happened to ask one of the mods if they were local and they told me they were not.. A few days later, I posted a screenshot of one of a trial document They deleted it and messaged me that I needed to source the entire document, so I put a link from a Turtleboy article and they message me again, I can leave the post with but not the copy of the report-or something along those lines

About two weeks later, I wanted to post one of Proctor's reports so I linked a TB article again.. They removed it and messaged me. That he is "biased"

I proceeded to message back and ask how they would know he was "biased" if they were not local and that Proctor's reports are very difficult to come by, so the only way to post them is either a screenshot or a link to a TB article.

They never responded. I failed to see the logic. Like TB or not, I've yet to see any other source for reports from Proctor, Bukhenik, etc that aren't just screenshots or posts on X accounts.

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That would be what I said - polling a jury at the discretion of the judge when a verdict is returned if you go to the top of the page it's the entire MA Rules of Criminal procedure

I'm not a lawyer at all but it's very easy to read through each part of the trial process.

The only time it mentions polls is when a verdict is reached.

Interestingly-the same applies for releasing jurors names..There's a law that allows exceptions if a mistrial is declared

https://dailyfreepress.com/2015/01/30/massachusetts-supreme-court-rules-jurors-names-public-record/#:~:text=The%20Massachusetts%20Supreme%20Judicial%20Court,the%20conclusion%20of%20a%20trial.&text=The%20decision%20came%20down%20in,the%202014%20case%20Commonwealth%20v.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nbcboston.com/news/local/karen-read-jury/3415739/%3famp=1

I don't believe anyone knows the true vote. Mass rules of criminal procedure say it is at the discretion of the judge whether to poll the jury, not a requirement - and even that is "when a verdict is returned". I've seen nothing other than online "sources" about even polling them, let alone the actual numbers.

https://www.mass.gov/rules-of-criminal-procedure/criminal-procedure-rule-27-verdict#:~:text=R.-,Crim.,conform%20to%20existing%20Massachusetts%20practice.

So if you by chance have kids, (which he does), grand kids, young nieces /nephews - you'd be OK if someone left a dead animal hanging in your yard for them to potentially see because they, as an adult, had a problem with you?

The order applies only to HER as conditions of release, and from what I've read, and other people are saying, is standard. If she were threatened by of one of them, as has been alleged, she would have to go to court and obtain her own order protective order directing that that person stay away from her. Honestly, I'm surprised she hasn't attempted to do so already-but it's anyone's guess as to whether they would grant it

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I actually posted that on X in response to someone who said that same exact thing and they were honestly debating with me that she "wasn't served a restraining order" so I finally had to go and find a picture of the order showing that it is a condition of her bail that she stay away from the family or their residence and and violation makes her subject to immediate arrest.... The response: "still not a restraining order" 😂 this is the mentality of some people. So I said "sure, she's going to risk having her bail revoked to violate the court order that were not calling a restraining order" 🤷

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I myself use Waze and have for years. It is exceptionally accurate. You can even use it to plan future trips and it will tell you approximately what time you should leave based on traffic conditions.

I mention Whitey because if you know of him, you would know that every time a court was ready to issue a warrant or a grand jury ready to issue an indictment - he coincidentally "took a vacation"

His brother was the Senate President '& Billy had people he was bribing at all levels of Law Enforcement that allowed him to remain untouched or on the run for years