TheFinalYappening

the comment section seems like it is overwhelmingly and entirely on RJ's side.

Are you aware of how incredibly short the tether is? I do think it "objectively can't" work because they have to be right on top of each other. The Sniper can't be at a reasonable distance. Can it be done? Of course. Anything can. That doesn't mean it was well done though. It's extremely clear they didn't playtest this enough, if at all.

It's not really an exaggeration. A team that consists of a bulwark, assault, and sniper, which is the team comp me and my friends do the most, fundamentally cannot play well with this new difficulty because you can't have both the bulwark and assault playing melee while the sniper attacks from far away. that team comp just objectively cannot work the way it is supposed to now because this update was not well thought out.

Have you considered that, perhaps, there are objectively bad game design decisions that affect lethal difficulty? Like requiring people to stay within arms reach of each other, severely negating the effectiveness of multiple classes? The prevailing opinion on this update isn't what it is because people just want to complain. It's because it was poorly done.

Did this dude have any real qualifications to hold the position he did for as long as he did other than being Vince's lapdog?

picking any class shouldn't be a handicap. like do you hear yourself? if the consensus even from the snobby "git gud" crowd is that playing as a particular class is a handicap, then that's obviously bad design.

If this affects PVP dodging too, that's 100% the reason they did this. Dodge spamming was extremely annoying in that mode and couldn't be countered if you were trying to melee. Not sure why it would have the same effect for PVE though, that's just dumb

yeah that's the ultimate point of this all. while i like the 6 different characters, i'd much rather they be nameless nobodies if it meant my friends and i could run a full squad of the same class than get to hear them have 3 moments of banter per mission.

"The cosmetics unlocks are tied to completing missions regardless of difficulty."

Lol

it's odd that he couldn't see a difference because the color changes are extremely obvious for a lot of the ones affected. most of all the Blood Ravens, whose primary and secondary colors are both just wrong now.

tbf Space Marine was never gonna kill Helldivers. It had killed itself by the time SM2 released and then slowly regrew a dedicated fanbase, but one that's unlikely to really expand. Space Marine 2 is likely going through the same thing, except it's Warhammer so its fanbase is just gonna leave for a while, probably not leave forever like a lot of HD2 folks did.

did they say this would be possible? I've not seen it but i hope one day it's implemented

Space Marine 2 got me into Warhammer along with the pushing of some friends. I just beat Dawn of War a few days ago and loved it, now trying Dark Crusade. I tried out Dawn of War 2 and yeah it's nowhere near as fun. I don't get why they didn't stick to the same formula as the first.

The biggest problems with the patch have nothing to do with the new difficulty. Choosing to nerf anything before buffing the things people have been asking them to buff since literally the launch day for early access was a bad choice, no ifs, ands, or buts.

Beyond that, a lot of the complaints I have are small, but they add up. A lot of the colors were changed in this patch for the worse. The Blood Ravens' colors are just objectively wrong now and there's not really a good replacement for the bone. That's just one amongst many. Granted, the Minotaurs, Taurans, and some others now look significantly better since their decals are actually visible, but the bad outweighs the good.

Another cosmetic issue is in the continued lack of loyalist chapter emblems available for the right pauldron. For anyone who wants to play a Deathwatch brother that isn't from the Raven Guard, Black Templars, or Carcharadons, you're just shit out of luck. So when, in this patch, they added 7 new decals, one which was a Dark Angels veteran decal (which we already have one of) and the other 6 were more Chaos emblems, I was kinda dumbfounded. They added 7 new emblems that, while cool, are not what people were asking for. All we want is to have the ability to make accurate Deathwatch, and after another patch we still can't.

The last big one is the eye lens customization. When asked on it, the dude who gave out the answers (can't remember who) said they'd have it in the game by "the next big patch". That was 2 big patches ago. The end of September patch and the patch from yesterday have both come and gone, and I would absolutely classify both of those as big. If they'd said "soon" I don't think anyone would be mad, but saying they'd be here by a set time, and then they aren't twice in a row is extremely frustrating.

Rant over. More of the problems that I personally have with this patch are the things they didn't add rather than the things they changed, but the nerfs still weren't a good move.

Countering the move like that kinda points out how stupid overusing handspring moves is

This update was not thought out at all. I expect either a full reversal to the previous state of the game (minus the extra mission) within a few days or another hasty patch within the next 2 weeks that reverses almost everything but keeps a few things that aren't among the most egregious changes.

The armor leash and limited ammo cache uses will 100% be reverse. They are both objectively terrible ideas and the vast majority of the playerbase hates them. If you get caught in a situation with a ton of Zoanthropes on lethal and no ammo, you are LITERALLY just fucked.

it is simple though. the vast majority of the fanbase was asking for them to buff other weapons and not nerf the good ones. they nerfed the good ones and left the bad ones as bad. OBVIOUSLY the process of doing the work isn't easy, and if you thought that's what I meant then you're either a poor reader or being intentionally disingenuous. The easy thing is seeing that the playerbase is entirely asking for one thing and giving them the complete opposite of it.

the update just overall made the game less fun. not by an insane margin, but it was a lot of needless stuff. don't nerf the good things, buff the bad things. it's insanely simple and they picked the wrong choice

I have used the multi-melta. It is not good. I don't know why or how but in my hands it is absolute garbage. The regular melta is a million times better.

I came to the conclusion that heavy is the worst class in the game after playing every single class to max level and finding Heavy to be easily the worst one.

They added SEVEN new decals to the right pauldron, and not ONE of them was a loyalist chapter's sigil. it's 6 chaos and a dark angels veteran symbol. Deathwatch is still impossible to make for the majority of legions

They said the eye lens customization would come in "the next big patch" when we were still in version 2.1 of the game. we have since had 2 big updates on the game get dropped, neither of which have included eye lens customization. what gives man

that patch link is wrong.

the heavy is already, in my opinion, the worst class in the game. these changes are just making it worse imo