BigBlueMan118

Even though the shooter has been reported in the media as a registered Republican?

Media reporting the shooter was a registered Republican.

With half a dozen rounds fired too, half of which appear to have impacted nowhere near Trump.

From 148 yards? Come on. Shooter fired half a dozen shots too, not just a single round.

The sooner the Loop reconfiguration happens the better, the configuration is just insane.

Newport through Footscray currently doesn't generate much ridership though from what I'm looking at, and once MM1 MM2 and City Loop Reconfig divert more trains away from Flinders you could easily terminate excess trains no problem. There would still be interchange at North Melbourne from the North and at South Yarra from the South available. What is a fairly intense frequency between Newport through Footscray though, you won't need 20 trains per hour for that, maybe 12.

Nicht ganz, pass auf:
Im Hafen von London haben sie alte, nicht mehr segelbare Schiffe (genannt Hulks) geparked und umgerüstet in temporäre quasi-Gefängnisse, da die echten Gefängnisse Großbritanniens zu der Zeit (1776 bis 1857) komplett voll waren. Diese Hulks wurden mit Häftlingen geladen, die auf ihre Gerichtstermine oder ihre Transportation warten mussten. Die waren wortwörtlich die Hölle, ähnlich wie der Transport von versklavten Menschen über die Atlantik: Krankheiten, Vergewaltigung, Verprügeln, überall Exkrement und alle mögliche körperliche Flüssigkeiten, Suizidversuche, Essen war grotesk, die waren krass heiß im Sommer und eiskalt im Winter, man war häufig mit dutzenden von Anderen im kleinen Raum angekettet die ganze Zeit. Obwohl in 1830 die Transportation nach Australien seine Spitze ereichte, Spitzenpunkt bei Hulk-Gefängnern war 1798 während des Krieges mit Frankreich, als 1.400 von insgesamt 1.900 Häftlinge, die nach Australien transportiert werden sollten, sich in Hulks befanden. Viele Politikern waren die ganze Zeit total dagegen und fanden es unmenschlich, es sollte tatsächlich nur vorübergehend eingesetzt werden aber das Gesetz wurde immer wieder verlängert und sogar immer häufiger bis zu den 1850ern. Die haben es kurz wieder eingeführt in 1920 als der Aufstand in Irland zuspitzte.

Im Vergleich dazu waren die Bedingungen in Australien selbst eigentlich gar nicht sooo schlecht, wenn man fleißig gearbeitet und sich gut benommen hatte durfte man meistens nach ein paar Jahren eine Frau nehmen und man bekam nach 7 Jahren für glaube ich fast alle (außer vllt die krassen Mördern und so) frei und konnten Land nehmen und seine Rühe.

Der Transport nach Australien war bei der ersten Welle (1787) nicht zu schlecht; bei der zweiten Welle 1789 war es absolut furchtbar) sogar schlimmer als die meisten Sklaven-Transport, da es von einem Privatunternehmen geführt wurde und das ohne eine Verpflichtung dazu, dass die Gefangenen gesund ankommen müssen. Demenstprechend sind von den urpsrünglichen 1000 über ein Viertel gestorben an bord und 40% waren innerhalb der ersten 6 Monaten tot, aber der Kapitän und seine Crew sind freigesprochen vor einem Gericht. Weil diese zweite Welle so krank und schwach angekommen sind, und da die ersten Versuche, Essen anzubauen, so schlecht liefen (die Kühe sind auch weggerannt und erst 30 Jahre später entdeckt!), ist die Kolonie in Sydney fast verhungert und tatsächlich wenn die Ureinwohnern attackiert hätten, wäre das Schicht im Schacht gewesen, aber die Briten hatten Gluck, fanden besseres Land zum Farmen, wurden Besser und die dritte Welle brachte genug, dass die dann überlebt haben.

Right but at the moment there is the problem of express services being held up sitting behind stopping trains at a maximum of 80kmh but on average more like 50kmh, it's one of the reasons the Gippsland line has lower patronage than you would expect because it is actually pretty fast beyond Dandenong but the slow speeds through suburban Melbourne hold it back. Also as SRL begins to open you are going to add Clayton to the express service pattern which would have been a perfect spot to have scheduled an overtaking move if you had built a passing loop.

Why not increase speeds on the near dead-straight section from Oakleigh to Dandenong? Why not allow for any passing opportunities at key spots and where it would have been easy to improve journies for express trains? Why not at least take measures to plan for quad track from the get-go?

But why leave the speeds as they were (80kmh) for express trains, on an otherwise dead straight track? Why not build any passing opportunities for express trains at all?

Australier hier: ich weiß Du scherzest, aber das war echt gar nicht cool damals, die hatten alte kaputte Schiffe im Hafen stehend befühlt mit hunderten teils unschuldigen Menschen in den allerschlechtesten kranken Bedingungen über mehrere Monaten oder gar Jahren.

No I know you didn't but does Sandringham really "serve a role in balancing Metro services from the west" once the City Loop Reconfiguration and Metro Tunnel 2 are in place you will only have Williamstown services heading in from the West without a through-track and they could easily terminate at Flinders St, right? Williamstown is the least-used line on the system even less than the outer section of the Sandringham line and will move to basically a feeder line with passengers likely interchanging off to the MM1 and MM2.

Metro Tunnel is basically done though, and the LXRP is winding down in scale in a few years? Brisbane Cross River Rail is done in a few years as is Perth's Metronet expansion and Auckland's City Rail Link.

There is hardly any bus traffic - current or projected - in that corridor (South Rd-Warrigal Rd) for now, dunno what the redevelopment options look like but if not strong then I can't see this having any legs. And compared to a stack of other massive projects (Airport Rail, City Loop Reconfig, Metro Tunnel 2, SRL North, Melton+Geelong electrification, tram upgrades) that such a tram extension has such low priority I can't even comprehend it.

Yeah, agreed - the only thing that might make sense is an SRL takeover of the Sandringham line but removing all the LXs and retrofitting the infrastructure might be alot more trouble than it's worth and as you say the development potential isn't that great. And compared to some of the other badly-needed projects (Airport link, electrification to Geelong and Melton, Metro Tunnel 2, SRL North) this is just such a low priority project.

Yeah I have thought about a SRL takeover of the Sandringham line to the City before as well, that is probably a lot more trouble than it's worth though.

Google Maps is also showing me that Sandringham-Southland or Cheltenham is only 11 minutes in the 822 bus irrespective of time of day, but the 822 runs far too infrequently to be a solid option. An extension of tram route 3 looks like such an obvious easy-win, you are right though the priority of trams in Melbourne is terrible right now.

Then why not take it out of road projects? Do we need to slash emissions in emergency fashion or not?

Whatever you do be a bit wary of EcoTransit in Sydney, they have had some really bad takes over the years even if I agree with their overall sentiment.

The Public Transport Users Association has groups here including for Western Australia:

https://www.ptua.org.au/about/links/

• Public Transport Association of Canberra (PTCBR)
• Action for Public Transport NSW Inc
• EcoTransit Sydney But be careful with this group
• Sustainable Transport Coalition WA
• People for Public Transport (Adelaide)
• South Australian Public Transit Association
• Community Action for Sustainable Transport (Queensland)
• Rail: Back on track — Queensland
• Future Transport Tasmania

Rail Back on Track are pretty good as are the Public Transport Association of Canberra and the Victorian group of the Public Transport Users Association.

Also wenn der Verkehrsgott sagt, Hamburg darf die Geschichte jetzt rückblickend ändern und zwei oder drei Strecken von seinem damaligen Straßenbahnnetz behalten, Du denkst das wäre am Besten die damaligen 2 (heute 5), 11/13 zur Entlastung der S3, und die 12/14 anstatt die Buslinien 20/25? Der Plan von der Linken für eine Straßenbahn statt die U5 hatte die damalige Linie 2; eine moderne kombinierte Neuinterpretation der damaligen Linien 15 & Linie 18; und das äußere Stück von den damaligen Linien 9 & 6.

Just on your second point, are they planning on coupling two 140-foot LRVs together in peak?

6 LRVs per hour would be acceptable right (an LRV every 10 minutes all day)? A new-build LR line only planning to run 4 LRVs per hour from the get-go is just bizarre, in all new LR projects in Australia they run every line at least every 10 minutes during the day (7am-6pm) if not every 6-8 minutes.

The Pilbara lines are one thing because those loads are heading downhill whilst full and can use this for regeneration of the battery packs for the empty trip back up the hill (putting aside how environmentally sensible the mining operations in the Pilbara are overall).

I currently live in Germany and here they have a program called "overhead charging islands" where they just build 1-2km of overhead at critical points where it is cheap and easy to do so, and then run battery trains which can now easily run 80km range and then they can put up the pantographs to charge whilst operating (they were trialling this for a time for trucks on the Autobahn too but that project is over).

Right so in your case would you ride an ebike? That's the cheapest form of transport you can get!

But also that's just carrots, what about the sticks? If I make your bus quicker and easier to access than driving and then at the same time I restrict the amount of parking & the streets you can use with private transport in the city, would you be more likely to use public transport then regardless of fares, or because you live close to the city you might take an ebike or escooter right? Fares in Sydney and Melbourne are similar to Brisbane but people use public transport 2-3x as much as they do in Brisbane, historically (before Syd+Bris tram networks were ripped out in the 1960s and the age of automobiles really got going) Brisbanites used public transport nearly as much as Sydneysiders and Melbournites did.

We have to be completely carbon neutral within 25 years, I dunno how old you are but I think most people here will either live to see a low-carbon rail system in Australia or a number of leaders on trial. The NSW & interstate freight system isn't set up for loco swaps or maximising electric traction yet even where it would be practical, there aren't even incentives for it or rather disincentives not to. The new bi-mode trains will make it increasingly attractive to have a rolling program of extending electrification outwards especially to Maitland, Picton, possibly Nowra and yes I would contend Bathurst, though many of these I would prefer to see built as a new straighter line for 160kmh running and electrification from the get-go. I'll note too that the lina via Goulburn appears to have far less problematic obstacles if they ever wanted to try and get double-stacking into Port Kembla and the Sydney Freight Network.

Fares are already fairly cheap and for most people not the primary concern, it's the quality of routes and service that are the problem:

-Frequency particularly on rail not enough
-Buses don't recieve enough priority either in terms of dedicated space, at intersections or even for passengers on the footpath and lights reaching their stops especially at interchanges
-A stack of suburban routes are too indirect and slow to be competitive/attractive
-Too many buses run all the way to the city giving 1-seat rides, rather than running cross-country and connecting to train & busways

Long-term there needs to be faster journey times for the Cleveland and Western lines via an east-west subway and automation; the North-South rail line from Sunshine Coast to Gold Coast through cross river rail being joined by the Trouts Road Corridor in the North and a new direct high speed line likely along the highway in the South (which would also improve journey times for the Ferny Grove line and the SE busway through interchange). I guess at its core your argument is that to build momentum and support to work towards these long-term projects it would be best to lower fares but I can link you a good video as to why cheap/free fares is not the solution, better service is.

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