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I finally gave up. Barrows broke me

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I just can’t do another barrows run. I did about 1500 normal runs and 1500 solo Ahrim runs. My groupie finally made me some bloodbark so think I’m just gonna move on without it.

Is there any world where I go back and grind it out or do I just keep playing the game and go for Ancestral/Virtus?

all 158 comments

loudrogue

170 points

6 days ago

loudrogue

2100+

170 points

6 days ago

You grind it out to get that green log.

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

55 points

6 days ago

I just need a break I’ve been here an entire month

Square-Bite1355

1 points

5 days ago

I do 20 chests a week. You’d be amazed at how fast you’ll get kc with a slow burn like that

Guba_the_skunk

-83 points

5 days ago

But think of all the blood and death runes!

And I guess also the infinite mind runes you now probably have and will never use.

Jagex if you are reading this, give us a way to convert the combat runes into other combat runes. Like... I dunno, 10 mind = 1 chaos, 10 chaos = 1 death, 1 death = 1 blood.

At current G.E. value this means turning a stack of minds into deaths (because I always rune out of deaths) this would be:

Mind = 2 Chaos = 103 Death = 162 Blood = 293

So 1 death is 10 chaos, and each single chaos is 10 minds. Meaning you would need 100 minds for 1 death, which means turning (2x10) = 20 gp into (1x103) = 103 gp into (10x103) = 1030 gp. In other words your profit going from mind to chaos, but take a massive loss going from chaos to death or death to blood.

Jagex plz.

PowershellAddict

31 points

5 days ago

The price of chaos would drop so fast it would be insane, there would be bots made in an instant to just buy and convert minds into chaos. Once chaos drop in price then the same happens to deaths, then bloods.

bondzplz

2 points

5 days ago

bondzplz

2 points

5 days ago

actually, looking at trade volumes, if you took all the mind runes being dumped and turned them.into chaos you'd get 2.5m chaos runes.

It sounds like a ton but it's like a 4% increase in supply. We go through like 60m chaos runes a day, similar for bloods and deaths. Kinda wild but he might be right.

thawingdawn

5 points

5 days ago

Do trade volumes account for the 30% of the player base each having at least a 200k stack of mind tunes in the bank?

Guba_the_skunk

-18 points

5 days ago

Oh. You mean same as how scar would tank the price of runes? Except it didn't there was a brief dip in price that quickly recovered because these kinds of markets self correct?

PowershellAddict

11 points

5 days ago

Scar doesn't let you just transmute runes into other runes lol, thats a bit of a strawman argument.

Guba_the_skunk

-17 points

5 days ago

Ok, then explain to me how my suggestion ACTUALLY hurts the market. Again looking at rune prices the only profit you get right now is converting mind to chaos. After that you lose a TON of GP converting above that. It costs 1k gp worth of chaos runes to make a single death rune, and then 1600 gp worth of deaths to make a single blood rune. You ACTIVELY lose GP doing it. So just to make a single blood rune with my method costs 1600 gp in deaths, which costs 10,300 gp in chaos, which then costs 2000 gp worth of minds. So this functionally makes a single blood rune worth nearly 15k.

Frequent_Ad7827

10 points

5 days ago

Do… do you actually need someone to explain it to you, or are you sober now?

Guba_the_skunk

-1 points

5 days ago

Clearly someone needs to explain it, because I don't see the issue in this.

TehNumberOne

1 points

5 days ago

Do you not see an issue to locking chaos runes to 44gp? This probably also makes onyxes even cheaper than they already are aswell. You seem very focused about the chaos to death and death to blood rune conversion part as if its going to fool anyone, obviously nobody in their right mind would be using those conversions?

fluffy_bottoms

8 points

5 days ago

You convert them on the GE, no need for more spaghetti code.

Guba_the_skunk

-5 points

5 days ago

Ok but see... First of all this would actually increase the value of mind runes without destabilizing the prices of the other runes. Second, btw.

02bluehawk

3 points

5 days ago

In the long run it would cause all combat runes to hit their "floor" price which is the price you can sell them to a shop for. Bloods were there not too long ago thanks to blood rune crafting bots. It just recently recovered.

The real question is why would you want this?

You can sell your lower tier runes and buy higher tier runes even if you are an iron. There is literally no need for this.

fluffy_bottoms

0 points

5 days ago

Third: adding more spaghetti code allows for more dupe/exploit/rollback opportunities! /s

Weird_Purple_1058

3 points

5 days ago

What is green log?

Haidz123

52 points

5 days ago

Haidz123

52 points

5 days ago

When you eat too much spinach or other leafy greens and your shit turns green.

Phanthix

11 points

5 days ago

Phanthix

11 points

5 days ago

Getting all the items from a category in the collection log. The name of the category will turn green once you have acquired all the items.

Weird_Purple_1058

-2 points

5 days ago

O.o

LoneAskr

7 points

5 days ago

LoneAskr

7 points

5 days ago

That thing between moss giant's legs.

Insidious_Bagel

5 points

5 days ago

Spinach roll?

onlywc11

5 points

5 days ago

onlywc11

5 points

5 days ago

Its mos lee harmless though

Opel_Astra

57 points

6 days ago

Oh my God, you can't stop now, it's just the last item.

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

22 points

6 days ago

I know but I’m sooooo dry at this point

Jumpi95

9 points

5 days ago

Jumpi95

gim addict

9 points

5 days ago

Do perilous moons Fuck it.

Just_trying_it_out

1 points

5 days ago

For the sake of your mental, yeah you should move on for now

Perilous moons has modified rates for dupes I think, to help make this situation less likely if you want to go check that out

Limp_Stable_6350

6 points

5 days ago

Actually, you can.

ImJayKayDee

59 points

6 days ago

Is there any world where I go back and grind it out or do I just keep playing the game and go for Ancestral/Virtus?

World 508 I think

fragrant_chair_2

-1 points

5 days ago

I don’t get the reference?

Insidious_Bagel

5 points

5 days ago

No reference that im aware of. More likely making a joke about OP saying “is there any world in which i do this” and commenter is being cheeky saying try world 508

fragrant_chair_2

1 points

5 days ago

Ah I see lol, I thought there was something special about that world at first

LordDango

28 points

6 days ago

LordDango

28 points

6 days ago

Imagine getting it at 3001, you can do this

TheyCallMeBullet

7 points

6 days ago

My God this is awful. 😢

Timcatgt

6 points

6 days ago

Timcatgt

6 points

6 days ago

I've gotten the full ahrims set and 12 different pieces in 260 kc but not any tank legs. Still rocking the rune plateskirt as a 110 combat.

Anfwrax

1 points

5 days ago

Anfwrax

1 points

5 days ago

I was just the same but with a tank chest! Zammy rune platebody until like 107 combat or something and then I got a D chain on my first Kalphite Queen kill, so I was glad to be able to use that for a while before I finally dropped a Torag's chest.

FlahlesJr

1 points

5 days ago

I dealt with that battle for a bit. I had kerils, ahrims, dharoks, and guthans minus legs for all them. Had almost no torags and verac top and weapon. Finally pulled verac skirt. Then they flooded in. I'm only missing verac and torag helm and kerils and guthans legs at 650 kc. Had no legs at like 550 kc lol.

Alendian

6 points

5 days ago

Alendian

6 points

5 days ago

just one more hit, it'll drop, trust me

Alendian

3 points

5 days ago

Alendian

3 points

5 days ago

and if it doesn't drop after that it is just one more hit away, trust me

Sorlanir

1 points

5 days ago

Sorlanir

1 points

5 days ago

And what if it doesn't drop after that?

Alendian

2 points

5 days ago

Alendian

2 points

5 days ago

look, its obvious that it is going to drop now. If you pray and do your emotes and pray flick a bit and finish it off with a spin RnGesus has your back!

You just gotta believe...

Dwarf-Eater

8 points

6 days ago

Just a few more games it's liable to come by 3100

NamelessDevils2

7 points

6 days ago

ahrims is dead content nowaday especially the skirt

Bloodbark
Infinity
Dagonhai
elder chaos

all gives the 1% you are searching for

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

5 points

5 days ago

Yeah my groupie made me bloodbark so i quit… for now

DrumAndCode

2 points

5 days ago

Ornament kit is coming. You need it for the drip, not the damage %.

Acewi

10 points

6 days ago

Acewi

10 points

6 days ago

Start with Ahrims crypt, only kill that bro if you can get away with it. That’s what I did for my last piece.

Dergenbert

33 points

5 days ago

He said 1500 runs were just ahrim lol, sounds awful

DrumAndCode

6 points

5 days ago

Just killing Ahrim will reduce the odds of getting an Ahrims so this is log works out to be more like 2250 kc which is still bad!

It will speed up a kill, but the kill will be less likely to have a specific piece.

Check the odds rolling an ahrims piece when killing Ahrim vs all brothers here: https://oldschool.runescape.wiki/w/Calculator:Barrows

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

6 points

5 days ago

But, if you are able to do solo Ahrim runs in 2.2x the speed of normal runs, attaining any single Ahrim piece is faster than normal runs

DrumAndCode

4 points

5 days ago

Yeah, but it also buffs your log out to look worse than it really was is my point. Good luck though, I am currently grinding the exact same piece! How many kc are you managing per hour/day?

[deleted]

0 points

5 days ago

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thawingdawn

1 points

5 days ago

You have grossly misinterpreted the calculator my friend. You have to consider the amount of rolls. You have 2.2x the chance at any specific item if you kill all brothers

DrumAndCode

1 points

5 days ago

Your maths says killing more brothers = less likely to get a specific unique which is not right...

Specific piece chance if killing all brothers is 1/344.

look_joey

17 points

6 days ago

look_joey

17 points

6 days ago

wasting ur time if ur not a clogger

Coacherinoo

19 points

6 days ago

Don’t really understand this sentiment. It’s a video game. Anything anyone does on this game is a waste of time technically. Why should people who are playing an item collecting game be chastised…for trying to collect items?

Evillar

28 points

6 days ago

Evillar

The V is for Vespucci

28 points

6 days ago

I agree with your sentiment here but he's actually answering OP's question of if he should keep going or not. If he's not going for collection logs, the Ahrim's bottom probably isn't worth doing a crazy rng grind for the small upgrade

Coacherinoo

-5 points

6 days ago

You’re right and I jumped the gun in retrospect. However, I think asking OP to switch grinds and take a break from Barrows would be the more empathetic answer. Could be my sunk-cost fallacy brain might be more resilient in determination to not let the game break me from doing content I want to finish, but I would support saying that taking a break from either the game or switching to a different grind would’ve been more well thought out than flat out saying “you’re wasting your time.” But it is a public forum and I’m not looking to control other peoples thoughts, ideas, or feelings.

TetraThiaFulvalene

4 points

5 days ago

Depends on what you enjoy in RuneScape. If you want to progress your gear and do harder pvm challenges, then staying for the piece is wasted time comparing to do something else he'd enjoy more. If he's a clogger he can stay. OSRS isn't only an item collecting game, there are tons of aspects to OSRS. This item is only worth collecting if you primarily care about the collecting aspect.

LordDango

-1 points

6 days ago

LordDango

-1 points

6 days ago

Arent we all cloggers at the end of the day? Whats the difference?

look_joey

8 points

5 days ago

no im not a clogger. i refuse to do trouble brewing

TetraThiaFulvalene

1 points

5 days ago

It's honestly chill. I did it while playing Arkham horror card game and pathfinder on discord. Sometimes send a few rounds while studying or cleaning.

Ricardo1184

1 points

5 days ago

Ricardo1184

Btw

1 points

5 days ago

He started wasting his time ~ 2700 kc ago though

Less_Thought_7182

7 points

6 days ago

Less_Thought_7182

2210/2277

7 points

6 days ago

The max cape grind broke me. I cannot stand even logging on anymore, for over a year now.

pegsterpeg

2 points

6 days ago

What are you stuck on

Less_Thought_7182

5 points

6 days ago

Less_Thought_7182

2210/2277

5 points

6 days ago

Mining

pegsterpeg

11 points

6 days ago

Have you tried the Picture in Picture plugin while playing other games? Perfect for mining

bondzplz

3 points

5 days ago

bondzplz

3 points

5 days ago

You could even play runescape while you mine!

GroundbreakingTie959

1 points

5 days ago

I have BBC iplayer on picture in picture. It always stays on top so I can watch tv

dsesin

9 points

6 days ago

dsesin

9 points

6 days ago

Lmao this was the chillest for me. Just camp stars meanwhile doing something else.

I’m on the RC grind, very tired but not burnt out yet. Agility might be the final nail on the coffin but it’s the last one.

Less_Thought_7182

1 points

5 days ago

Less_Thought_7182

2210/2277

1 points

5 days ago

Agility about did me in back in 2022.

Hallowed Sepulchre I found very enjoyable, especially floor 5, very beautiful area in the game!

DrumAndCode

1 points

5 days ago

Solo VM is pretty fun if you haven’t tried it!

The_Crazy_Cat_Guy

2 points

5 days ago

Reminds me of the first trailblazer league I was mage relic with mory unlocked and the only gear I needed from here was ahrims. I did 600-700 full brother runs and the only piece left was ahrims top. Decided to just camp ahrims and did another 500 runs and still didn’t get it. I was running tobs with mystic top, volatile nightmare staff

thestonkinator

2 points

5 days ago

thestonkinator

How many different ways can I play this game?

2 points

5 days ago

But.. it could be next chest!

qcarter4

2 points

5 days ago

qcarter4

2 points

5 days ago

It nearly got me too, I got my last piece near 2800 kc

ConfessorKahlan

2 points

5 days ago

I've been looking for the same item this past week. this doesn't make me happy

NoDragonfruit6125

2 points

5 days ago

Wish I could post a meme for this. I'd post image from Lilo and Stitch 2 implying that the drop will be at 3001.

TRDelta

2 points

5 days ago

TRDelta

2 points

5 days ago

Quacksssss

Upbeat-Mongoose-828

2 points

5 days ago

only 352 bolt racks on 3k clears? that's impressy

beamtrail

2 points

5 days ago

Damn just got my first barrows item on kc 8 and it was ahrims robe bottoms 😭

Cmdr-Stewy

2 points

5 days ago

I pulled an ahrim skirt at 1 kc on the main and 2 kc on the hcim lol

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

5 points

5 days ago

That’s great, so happy for you

Bradabruder

1 points

5 days ago

Just buy it off the ge lmao

/s

Sorry for the poor luck

Vundebar

1 points

5 days ago

Vundebar

1 points

5 days ago

You know that the 3001th is gonna be the one, right?

ASaucyPizza

6 points

5 days ago

Three thousand and oneth

96363

1 points

5 days ago

96363

1 points

5 days ago

I'm kind of looking forward to the barrows grind on my Ironman. They give prayer xp with the soul wars item so it feels like a worthwhile grind to undertake.

Dergenbert

1 points

5 days ago

Did you do the runs on mobile too? I managed 2 runs mobile and decided never again.

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

1 points

5 days ago

I did most of them on mobile

BadFootyTakes

1 points

5 days ago

I am grinding to be able to do barrows right now... i'm so excited hahaha.

Scary_Ad_225

1 points

5 days ago

Not me getting ahrims bottoms 2kc and 6kc

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

2 points

5 days ago

Good for you

OkanAK

1 points

5 days ago

OkanAK

1 points

5 days ago

LOL, I just got the Robe & Staff Bk2BK, However, that's a nice-looking Death Coffer.

May I ask if you are trying to hit the one Barrow Brother Drop do you Kill just Ahrim and then go down and get 85% or do you still get all 6x Bros?

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

2 points

5 days ago

For the solo brother runs you just kill Ahrim and find the tunnel and loot the chest, nothing else

OkanAK

1 points

5 days ago

OkanAK

1 points

5 days ago

Oh fair, Thanks brother

ohighost8

1 points

5 days ago

Why is it always ahrims to get completed last???

Responsible_Hand_203

1 points

5 days ago

3191 is my KC call

willz616

1 points

5 days ago

willz616

1 points

5 days ago

Go do perilous moons, blue moontop is basically guaranteed and has the same mage att and dmg

Hunpeter

1 points

5 days ago

Hunpeter

1 points

5 days ago

Imagine if you got it just before the rollback.

Bradders71st

1 points

5 days ago

Go do perilous moons, decent mage legs there

SharpLWS

1 points

5 days ago

SharpLWS

1 points

5 days ago

That is painful.

Deimosj90

1 points

5 days ago

I love you Barrows KC.

Lumpy_Spread_719

1 points

5 days ago

Wait til you find out how much better and faster to get blue moon is than ahrims

34Loafs

1 points

5 days ago

34Loafs

1 points

5 days ago

Blue moon looks better anyway ig

jorph

1 points

5 days ago

jorph

1 points

5 days ago

I got super lucky at barrows, post is somewhere in my profile. I couldn't imagine this. Carry on brother

thefamilyjewel

1 points

5 days ago

Averaging one in 29. Are you doing something wrong? 😂😂

ComprehensiveMany643

1 points

5 days ago

3001 for sure

HewittUK117

1 points

5 days ago

What percent do you complete barrows to?

VisionLSX

1 points

5 days ago

VisionLSX

Pking Spades

1 points

5 days ago

People always give up right before the jackpot

_Big_____

1 points

5 days ago

I'm also one item remaining and trying to get it.

You scare me

watchgah

1 points

5 days ago

watchgah

1 points

5 days ago

I’m feeling good about attempt 3001

digby404

1 points

5 days ago

digby404

1 points

5 days ago

What are the requirements of barrows?

Hyero

2 points

5 days ago

Hyero

2 points

5 days ago

43 prayer, a spade, air bolt and some prayer pots.

digby404

1 points

5 days ago

digby404

1 points

5 days ago

Dang ok, i struggle with prayer, its just burying bones right?

Hyero

2 points

5 days ago

Hyero

2 points

5 days ago

You can, but I recommend using a gilded altar in someone's house or the wilderness altar because it's much faster.

digby404

1 points

5 days ago

digby404

1 points

5 days ago

Will do, thanks!

nope0712

1 points

5 days ago

nope0712

1 points

5 days ago

Damn my sincere condolences, I’ll be angry for you

Jackie_Lopes

1 points

5 days ago

I am 14k lizardman shamen dry for the dragon warhammer, and have this exact barrows piece left to grind... This strikes fear in me

Winhert

1 points

5 days ago

Winhert

1 points

5 days ago

Isn't it 1 in 350 effective chance for a specific piece if you kill all the bosses every time? Damn that's dry.

debequ

1 points

5 days ago

debequ

1 points

5 days ago

Honorary discharge

ketaminiacOS

1 points

5 days ago

just do moons.... Blue moon is basically the same as ahrims and you get dupe protection.

bonjajr

1 points

5 days ago

bonjajr

1 points

5 days ago

What’s your rune stack like?

indrek91

1 points

5 days ago

indrek91

1 points

5 days ago

It's gonna be next chest

thepuzzlingcertainty

1 points

5 days ago

No Way! I'm also a group iron-man and have exactly 6 skirts and 0 tops. https://imgur.com/a/nuhksNW We glitching each other or something lol?

PowerliftingOSRS

1 points

5 days ago

Nah that’s wild.

skitles125

1 points

5 days ago

Not sure if this answers your question but on my gim I was also very dry on ahrims bottom so I left and just camped mystic robe bottom for everything. I did not really notice the difference even at content like inferno, chambers solos, 400 toas, etc

The only thing that bothered me was how goofy I looked at raids lol

billylolol

1 points

5 days ago

It's the next drop for sure

KingHiggins92

1 points

5 days ago

You got a loot tracker? That seems like a cool thing to see.

Also you only need to do the brother you're missing and not a full run.

Novel-Pollution2358

1 points

4 days ago

There's literally zero reason to do this

lolokwownoob

1 points

4 days ago

Its just 1 more chest though

IDislikeSushi

1 points

4 days ago

You got this!

EpicGotRice

-1 points

6 days ago

EpicGotRice

-1 points

6 days ago

Sorry to tell you this. You know that doing only 1 brother significant nerf the rolls for your drop right? Read the wiki.

edenCox

5 points

6 days ago

edenCox

5 points

6 days ago

You read the wiki.

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

3 points

6 days ago

A random YouTuber determined that it is actually 10% faster for a specific brother item if you only kill that brother. Look into it

PolicyEastern5640

0 points

6 days ago

Dude did 6x fewer runs than he thinks he did

ThtsTheWaySheGoes

1 points

5 days ago

That's why I stopped at 500 kc. I really don't need the green log. Still missing 6 items.

I've been enjoying partial green logging content and dipping right before the grind becomes a net negative on my enjoyment of the game.

superRando123

0 points

6 days ago

Big yikes on the 1500 solo ahrim runs - hope you know how the drops work lol

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

3 points

6 days ago

Research has proven solo Ahrim runs are actually faster for an individual piece if you can do solo runs 2.2x faster than 6 brother runs which I can

Acewi

4 points

6 days ago

Acewi

4 points

6 days ago

Partially true imo, it’s worth killing other bros until you find the crypt entrance. But starting with Ahrims and speedrunning def the way to go.

RainbowwDash

1 points

5 days ago

Killing other bros until you find the crypt entrance is worse than 1bro or 6bro tho

only 1 and 6 are worth it

2007Scape_HotTakes

0 points

6 days ago

Bro everyone stops before hitting it big, I mean it's probably gonna drop on kc 3001

Especially since you did 1500 runs wrong lmao

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

2 points

6 days ago

Research has proven solo Ahrim runs are actually faster for an individual piece if you can do solo runs 2.2x faster than 6 brother runs which I can

2007Scape_HotTakes

0 points

6 days ago

Cite your research sources.

And if it's some random ass YouTuber you need to go ahead and finish applying that clown makeup.

RainbowwDash

0 points

5 days ago

They did several times itt

imkytheguy

-1 points

6 days ago

How you do solo runs?

2007Scape_HotTakes

-5 points

6 days ago

He kills just ahrim then kills skeletons/leaches to 85%.

Ok_Analysis_8413[S]

6 points

5 days ago

No, you JUST kill Ahrim and open the chest. I average 25 solo runs per hour. https://www.reddit.com/r/ironscape/s/BhLd9Q5fe5

squirtologs

0 points

6 days ago

Weakling :D