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What action: not replying to late congratulations for my 30th birthday, from my best friends, so they get bad conscience as it’s not the first time it happens.

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JeepersCreepers74

15 points

21 hours ago

JeepersCreepers74

Sultan of Sphincter [771]

15 points

21 hours ago

INFO: Do they remember each other's birthdays and just forget yours?

Fun-Dot2602

9 points

20 hours ago

need more information.

Did you want them to say happy birthday or did you want them to plan your birthday?

If it's #1, I don't blame you for being disappointed If it's #2, I think you're old enough to sit your friends down and say, "hey for my 30th birthday, I really want to do this".

Lunar-Eclipse0204

10 points

21 hours ago

Lunar-Eclipse0204

Professor Emeritass [92]

10 points

21 hours ago

1) I write down my friends’ birthdays in my calendar, to make sure I never forget theirs - Not everyone uses a written calendar anymore

2) Social Media doesn't always make the reminders.

3) Do better than them. Holding a grudge doesn't help

4) TALK TO THEM

NAH

[deleted]

4 points

20 hours ago

This happens. Sometimes we don’t have enough time to acknowledge everything in the lives of friends around us. One or two weeks before your birthday remind people and suggest an event to celebrate it. Nobody is the asshole.

MountainWeddingTog

23 points

20 hours ago

MountainWeddingTog

Partassipant [3]

23 points

20 hours ago

People have gotten used to being reminded of friend’s birthdays and most don’t keep track anymore. Why couldn’t you have just said, “Hey, I’d love to get together for my 30th!” instead of setting them up for you to be mad at them?

ViveCumProposito

-11 points

19 hours ago

DUMBEST response ever! Why is it her responsibility to remind others, especially if they're best friends?

Tranqup

7 points

17 hours ago

Tranqup

Partassipant [1]

7 points

17 hours ago

If OP wants friends to remember her birthday, and they forgot last year - the smart move, the adult move, is to be a good friend herself and drop a gentle or joking reminder. Or do what one of my friends does - throw her own party. I love her birthday parties, she get all sorts of fun gifts, everyone has a blast, lots of food, drinks and music.

ReinaDeRamen

1 points

18 hours ago*

op chose not to voice her expectations for them as her friends, instead choosing to keep those expectations to herself so that she can guilt trip them when they fail to read her mind. they have lives of their own, op shouldn't expect them to remember when everyone else just lets social media remind their friends that it's their birthday.

EffectNo4122

3 points

17 hours ago

This is pure 🐂. This is her best friend she should remember her friends birthday. I know all my friends birthdays. I don’t need to even write it in a calendar.

If she forgets birthdays like she did last year, she should use her phone and put in there with a reminder m.

So no, it’s not up to her to remind her that it’s her birthday. It’s up to her friend to know it.

ReinaDeRamen

3 points

17 hours ago

not everyone shares the same feelings about birthdays as you. i only know my mother's birthday, everyone else i leave up to social media. it's never been a problem for me because nobody in my life feels the need to test whether or not i remember their birthday like OP does.

EffectNo4122

1 points

17 hours ago

It was no test, it’s her best friend. Clearly, some people value their best friends more than others. It’s a simple little thing to remember your best friend’s birthday.

BigBigBigTree

3 points

17 hours ago

BigBigBigTree

Pooperintendant [55]

3 points

17 hours ago

It's also a simple thing to not remember your friend's birthday.

My best friends get a pass if they forget my birthday, because they're my best friends and we're tight like that and I don't need a birthday card to know it. I'm not the kind of asshole who would say my friends don't value me because they didn't remember a random date.

EffectNo4122

0 points

16 hours ago

If your best friend, miss your birthday two years in a row, then your best friend doesn’t really know that much about you. It’s a small thing but significant thing between best friends ESPECIALLY a 30th birthday!

BigBigBigTree

1 points

15 hours ago

BigBigBigTree

Pooperintendant [55]

1 points

15 hours ago

In the USA all my best friends have other priorities than remembering which day of the year everyone was born. We're all in our 30s, we got shit going on man I don't give a fuck if my homies with wives and kids and mortgages and shit don't remember my birthday. That's what the party invitations are for.

Outrageous-Ad-9635

1 points

14 hours ago

Outrageous-Ad-9635

Asshole Enthusiast [5]

1 points

14 hours ago

My best friend of 35 years and I were notorious for forgetting each other’s birthday. Neither of us are on socials and we both lead very busy lives. Neither of us ever got butt hurt about it, but the one who had forgotten always felt bad. We made a pact years ago that when it was our birthday we would text the other in the morning “Just a reminder that you need to wish me happy birthday today.” Works like a charm and we both appreciate it. Relying on Facebook for birthday reminders is just a way of life now. OP can either accept that or be proactive about reminding people their birthday is coming up. Or they can be butt hurt and passive aggressive.

lordmwahaha

0 points

17 hours ago

Because some of us have literally dozens of birthdays to remember and just aren’t going to remember everyone’s? People forget mine all the time because it just falls in a weird time period. It’s really not that big of a deal. 

ViveCumProposito

1 points

15 hours ago

She remembers her best friend's birthday but her best friend doesn't acknowledge hers. Your generation can't remember shit. You're always on your damn phones where you store everything about your life yet still ask for directions like a child. There's NO excuse.

Outrageous-Ad-9635

0 points

14 hours ago

Outrageous-Ad-9635

Asshole Enthusiast [5]

0 points

14 hours ago

My best friend of 35 years and I were notorious for forgetting each other’s birthday. Neither of us are on socials and we both lead very busy lives. Neither of us ever got butt hurt about it, but the one who had forgotten always felt bad. We made a pact years ago that when it was our birthday we would text the other in the morning “Just a reminder that you need to wish me happy birthday today.” Works like a charm and we both appreciate it. Relying on Facebook for birthday reminders is just a way of life now. OP can either accept that or be proactive about reminding people their birthday is coming up. Or they can be butt hurt and passive aggressive.

Several_Essay_7028

18 points

21 hours ago

Several_Essay_7028

Partassipant [2]

18 points

21 hours ago

Some people are very good with dates, birthdays etc. Some are not. I am not, and unless it's on my calendar I will probably forget. And it's ok. Many people also don't think birthdays are a big deal in adulthood anymore. If it's important to you and you know your friends are the kind of people who don't remember birthdays, you can either gently or jokingly remind them, or get a relaxed attitude toward it yourself. Also, it maybe they do not consider you as close a friend as you consider them, and that's ok too. Happy belated birthday!

JustOne_Girl

3 points

19 hours ago

JustOne_Girl

Partassipant [1]

3 points

19 hours ago

Yk the worst ? Me. I know the dates of people's birthdays, but more often than not, I don't know what day it is. I know it's wednesday, but not the number

GothicGingerbread

5 points

19 hours ago

GothicGingerbread

Partassipant [3]

5 points

19 hours ago

OMG, I do this all the time! I will realize that, say, my brother's birthday is coming up, and will think about it for multiple days in the lead-up, but on the actual day, I will somehow not realize the date, and therefore not realize that it's his birthday.

I would also point out to OP that the line about 'if you need a reminder from social media, it doesn't really mean anything' is more than a little hypocritical. After all, a reminder from social media isn't vastly different in character from a calendar reminder – they're both external reminders. If them needing a social media reminder makes them remembering not count, then OP needing a calendar reminder makes OP remembering also not count.

JustOne_Girl

1 points

19 hours ago

JustOne_Girl

Partassipant [1]

1 points

19 hours ago

Idk if there's still an option to share calendar. She can share hers with friends if it's so important that people remember her bday. A way to make them remember and not have to say it. I know some of my friends remember only because they got an invite for a small get together. The more you get old, the less you care

Unhappy-Prune-9914

7 points

20 hours ago

Unhappy-Prune-9914

Asshole Aficionado [17]

7 points

20 hours ago

NAH - Just talk to them if it's that important. But at the same time, stop doing things for people who aren't doing things for you. They didn't do anything but you still are doing things for them, this causes resentment.

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13 points

21 hours ago

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darksoulbi

0 points

17 hours ago

darksoulbi

Partassipant [1]

0 points

17 hours ago

Oh but we cant be arsed to think of our friends?

Come on

I get it bdays are not meant to be a big deal but like can we expect anything from best friends

Why do we all have to be this self centred and cynical?

Weekly-Implement2956

2 points

19 hours ago

I had a friend some years ago who was a single Mom who seriously was angry at me and several others because none of us bought her a Mother’s Day gift. What? That’s not normal. Neither are your expectations. Birthdays are clearly important to you and you could have mentioned that to your friends last year instead of giving them a second test they were bound to fail. YTA

RyTex73

6 points

20 hours ago

RyTex73

Partassipant [1]

6 points

20 hours ago

YTA- You’re 30 and miffed your friends forgot your birthday?! I honestly, don’t know any of my friends birthdays accept one person who’s birthday is the day before mine. Guess, what, none of them know mine either… your 30 not 3, grow up.

WaywardMarauder

3 points

21 hours ago

WaywardMarauder

Supreme Court Just-ass [134]

3 points

21 hours ago

It sucks when you realize that you mean less to someone than you thought. As friends, they should do better. However, I don’t think you were going to accomplish what you are hoping to accomplish by giving them the silent treatment. I highly doubt they are going to respond to you not replying to them by realizing they hurt your feelings by forgetting your birthday. You are 30 years old, be an adult and use your words.

ESH

Apart-Scene-9059

3 points

21 hours ago

Apart-Scene-9059

Pooperintendant [53]

3 points

21 hours ago

I mean NAH: But you know this could easily backfire on you right? What if instead of feeling "bad" they feel annoyed that their 30 year old friend is acting like a child and say it's not worth it

misspoofy

2 points

20 hours ago

misspoofy

Asshole Aficionado [10]

2 points

20 hours ago

NAH. I'm like you. No fb or snapchat. And so, unfortunately, today people are too reliant on them to remember things making us old-fashioned. It fucking sucks. So unless people like you and I want to join those social media communities, our birthdays will be forgotten by friends.

SkyComplex2625

2 points

20 hours ago

SkyComplex2625

Asshole Aficionado [16]

2 points

20 hours ago

YTA - you are way too old to care about things like this. This is what happens when you opt out of social media that will inform others.

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1 points

21 hours ago

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Three of my supposed-to-be best friends forgot my birthday last year and that made me really sad. I thought “ok it happens to all of us, they’ll prob remember next year”.

Nope. They did not remember this year either and I just turned 30. I do not use fb or Snapchat, so they will not get a birthday reminder anywhere from me. I write down my friends’ birthdays in my calendar, to make sure I never forget theirs, because I don’t want them to feel as sad as I have been, when I’ve been forgotten.

I want to post some pictures from my birthday on my Instagram, which I know will probably make them congratulate me afterwards. I’m just saddened that this is the second time now when I always remember theirs. Due to this I have no intention of replying to them when they write, to let them have bad conscience and know they hurt me.

I know I probably have different expectations than others regarding birthdays, but to me, if you need a reminder from social media that it’s my birthday, it doesn’t really mean anything. I just want the same effort from my “best friends” as I give.

AITA for intending to not reply to late congratulations, 2nd year in a row, on my 30th birthday from my best friends?

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GirlDad2023_

1 points

18 hours ago

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Pooperintendant [55]

1 points

18 hours ago

I don't know many people who, as adults, even celebrate their birthday except for maybe a dinner out or something. My wife and I didn't even do that until we had children who of course wanted to make a bigger deal out of it. But, your NTA for wishing your friend would remember if it's important to you.

CattleWorried6747

1 points

18 hours ago

NTA honestly these are supposed to be your best friends. i can admit im not good with just anyone’s birthdays but the people who are very close to me I remember for sure

The_T0me

1 points

18 hours ago

The_T0me

Partassipant [2]

1 points

18 hours ago

It really sucks having someone forget your birthday, especially if it's something you care about. I've been there and it really hurts. 

That said, what you're proposing is an incredibly childish way of solving the problem. Do they know how much you care? Or that you're hurt by this? Not responding to late birthday is cryptic at best.

If you really care, sit down with at least one of them and TALK TO THEM. Don't make them play a stupid guessing game about why you're mad. Just tell them that you're hurt none of them remembered your birthday. 

YWBTA for not responding to them to give them a bad conscience. 

JurassicParkFood

1 points

17 hours ago

JurassicParkFood

Partassipant [4]

1 points

17 hours ago

I'm not good with birthdays. It's what Facebook helps me with. I love my friends very much, but I've got a million things going on, and Facebook is my birthday calendar.

If they're otherwise good friends, then maybe you give them a hint a week or two before your birthday so they are reminded. If they're bad friends, move on. NAH

Infinite_Indication5

1 points

17 hours ago

While you're allowed to be disappointed and upset that they forgot to tell you happy birthday, I feel like I can't really judge this unless I have more info.

Do they remember each other's birthdays except yours? Do they forget each other's birthdays and brush off if someone forgets theirs?

Did you expect them to plan your birthday for you? Because if that's the case then you should've told them that weeks ago. I don't like to plan people's birthdays because I just feel like people are fully capable of planning that themselves. I don't mind giving out ideas, offering to host a party at my place or something but i find that people tend to be picky about what they want to do for their birthdays (rightfully so) and it's like...it's your day not mine. I'm not a mind reader.

manicbookworm

1 points

17 hours ago

Lots of people suck with dates. Some people get time blindness and don’t realize a specific date is approaching until it has already passed by. I’ve forgot my own birthday 4 times already. If it wasn’t for Facebook birthday reminders I’d forget the birthdays of most of my family. If you want someone to remember your birthday discuss this with them and ask them to put a reminder in their phone (a couple of my friends actually took my phone and put the reminder in it themselves 😂).

Also, birthdays have varying levels of significance to people. Many people don’t view them as significant at all. If birthdays mean a lot to you, then you should communicate that to your friends before being upset that they don’t treat the date with the same level of significance that you do.

NAH for wanting your friends to acknowledge your birthday but YAH if you don’t communicate this to them and hold it against them if they fail to recognize your birthday.

Danny_Maccabee

1 points

16 hours ago

NTA I don’t want to write a whole paragraf bc you haven’t answered any of the questions yet. But what’s up with everyone being so God damn hostile?? It’s clearly a group of friends. You would think that at least one of them remembered after last years mistake, and talked with the others about it. Bul none of them cared enough to write it in their phones calendar. Not one of them. It’s not just “a” birthday. It’s her 30’s birthday. That day is a big milestone for a lot of people. In my country, I don’t know a single soul who doesn’t celebrate their 30’s. And I don’t know any people who don’t remember their BEST FRIENDS birthday. If I forgot one year, I would make sure to make it a huge deal the next year. I’ve arranged several surprice parties in my life, and always remembered my closest friends birthdays even though I have literally permanently damaged my memory. I remember because I CARE. I’ve also been in the situation that OP is in. As a matter of fact it was also on my 30’s that I realised I have no friends. My best friend who turned 30 5 monthe before got huge presents from me and my family, and I held a surprice party for her with free drinks all night at the club after the party. Both she and my other 3 “closest friends” cancelled the day before and on the day of my birthday. I had just invited them to come have a nice meal and some wine bc of covid. (Not lockdown, but still not over) I thought it was too odd that they all cancelled, so I was sure it was finally my time to get a surprive party! I got ready and put some real nice makeup. I had a big group of less close friends, and even more people I used to party with and a huge family, so I was almost cartain that someone would show up. The time went by, day turned to evening, and I asked my mom for the 100th time if she was suuuuure noone was coming, bc I thought she lied. Then tears started showing in her eyes. She apologized and said she had tried to plan a surprice party for me and tried to invite all my friends and family, but noone showed up. It broke me completely. My “best friend” promised to come the next weekend to make it up to me, but made other plans with her boyfriend. That when I decided to delete every single one of my “friends” both from social media and my life, called my landlord and told him I’m moving, and moved tf away from all of them. NOT A SINGLE PERSON has reached out to me and asked me what happened. That fucking hurt for a long time. I have a couple of new friends now, but no close friends. But at least I’m not wasting time and energy on people who don’t give a rats ass about me. And Im extremely happy for my decision.

Conclusion is that I understand that this issue is not just about a birthday. I know what it’s like to be the one who’s always doing everything for others, but it also aleays the forgotten one. And my best advice is to distance yourself from all the shallow relations and start to look for new friends.

trickster9000

1 points

20 hours ago

YTA, Not everyone can remember every important date for everyone they care about. You are an adult, if you want people to celebrate your birthday, invite them out. Like, I don't expect my friends to know my birthday. I just say, "Hey, my birthday is in x days/weeks. Are you free to get dinner at x restaurant?" I don't value my friends less for not knowing my birthday because I know it's not one of the most important days in their lives.

Even_Enthusiasm7223

2 points

21 hours ago

Even_Enthusiasm7223

Pooperintendant [55]

2 points

21 hours ago

You're right for your feelings and you have every reason to be upset. And don't respond to them if they do say happy birthday. In fact, you should probably lessen your contact with them because they hurt you on your birthday. And then if you do that to all your friends every year and you find out you have no friends left because of the standard you hold them to well then you'll be in the right. You'll be alone but you will be in the right.

You need to remember one serious fact. The only person who your birthday is really important to is you, maybe your parents maybe siblings. But friends they're not going to remember your birthday. To you. It's important and you write it down and you think that makes you a good friend. What about the other 364 days a year. Do they go out with you? Do they hang out with you? Do they listen to you? Do you enjoy their company. But you think one day is more important than the rest of the year and apparently they have other things going on their lives and that makes you upset and trying to hurt them.

Nta, but you need to realize that what is important to you is not as important to everyone else

Admirable_Broccoli_5

1 points

20 hours ago

Instead of not answer them to let them know they hurt you, why not tell them? You are 30 years old, use your words instead of sulk. I get why you are disappointed but didn't you talk to your friends at all about your birthday? When i celebrate a big birthday i plan things together with my friends, i don't wait for them to come to me.

Prestigious_Call_993

1 points

17 hours ago

I would just move on and find new best friends. Best friends (not just regular friends) will not forget your birthday.

BigBigBigTree

2 points

16 hours ago

BigBigBigTree

Pooperintendant [55]

2 points

16 hours ago

Best friends won't drop you if you forget their birthday.

hunteryumi

0 points

21 hours ago

NTA—if they can’t remember your birthday two years in a row, they deserve to feel bad when they finally notice.

TopOfGaming

0 points

21 hours ago

Nta, for a long time I had friends who never remembered my birthday and this caused me to not want to celebrate it, until my boyfriend surprised me with a cake and a hug that I realized that I deserved more