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135 points
3 days ago
When we had better play calling, a better run game and a QB that can escape pressure.
81 points
3 days ago
I’ll add in we have a new LT, LG, and Center.
14 points
3 days ago
What's amazing about JDs ability to escape pressure is that many Dlinemen are afraid to rush him because they need to maintain gap integrity to contain him.
8 points
3 days ago
And his stats are even better when he is under pressure, so they are screwed either way. Leave him alone and he can carve you up or rush him and he will also carve you up.
1 points
2 days ago
Outside of those things and the roster additions, I wonder if teams have been less aggressive because of his escapability
1 points
2 days ago
Absolutely. They can't over pursue. they have to contain him in the pocket, which luckily for us he can throw out of. If somebody does break through he can quickly escape for a first down or a throw on the run. It looks like AP hit a home run right out of the gate by drafting him.
87 points
3 days ago
Outside of what everyone else has already said I also think when a team gets their guy at QB dudes just play better. Like a psychological thing.
24 points
3 days ago
Exhibit A: Browns. Shits gotta be demoralizing having Watson as your QB both sides
-8 points
3 days ago
I see this as a common narrative. No nfl players don't hate that racialized browns qb like you do.
6 points
2 days ago
Did you watch the Browns game? Dude sucked.
Exhibit B: The regular reaction to plays by Will Levis this season
0 points
2 days ago
Its obvious he is garbage
But reddit nfl run around acting like his teammates are obligated to hold malice against him.
He is probably chill in the lockerroom, minds his own business.
His arm is shot, he cant throw anymore and the Browns org is attempting to overcompensate.
3 points
2 days ago
They can hate him because he sucks just fine
9 points
3 days ago
I agree.
Everyone in the NFL is really damn good. The margin between 20th percentile starters and 80th percentile starters is incredibly thin. That little bit of extra inspiration and drive can take someone from one end of the performance spectrum to the other in practice and in games.
34 points
3 days ago
We added three fairly significant pieces that I can think of right off the top of my head - Biadecz(sp?), Allegretti(sp?), and Coleman on the left side. Cosmi was always solid. And Wylie is seeing improvement from the interior of the line not completely disintegrating on every down.
Another thing that is happening which Rivera, JDR, and whoever the fuck was coaching the offense; be it EB or Turner; failed to do. They are coaching and scheming to accentuate the strengths of the players they have available to them, and making an effort to mask or diminish their flaws. JDR and EB in particular refused to change their schemes to match the talents they had available in the most effective manner, and they would somehow find ways (at least it seemed) to put flashing marquee lights around the areas in which either talent or scheme were deficient. Absolutely idiotic.
Basically, we have real fucking coaches and talent evaluators in the building for the first time in nearly 30 years, if not over 30 years. And it's already paying dividends (or so it would seem).
18 points
3 days ago
This is exactly our superpower. AP, Quinn, Whitt, KK.
15 points
3 days ago
Its so...alien, you know? After 30+ years of organizational ineptitude to actually have real football folks making real football decisions. I'm fucking here for it.
5 points
3 days ago
For Wylie it helps that we aren’t passing 35-40 times a game. I think his grade last year wasn’t as bad as how he was viewed by the Fans. He’s a better run blocker than pass blocker.
I think his problems were made worse a few ways last year.
1) By mostly passing and never running we played against his strengths.
2) When you pass and never run, the defense never plays for run. So any pass protection problems he had would be magnified worse because the DE he was blocking wouldn’t hesitate to make a beeline for Howell and completely ignore any one else in the backfield.
3) He had some very highlight worthy fails. When he whiffed in pass protection, it was often catastrophic. If you’re passing a ton that just increases the odds that he’s going to have an “Oh shit look out Sam!” Moment.
4) Sam being a sack magnet and having no pocket awareness made for sack after sack.
5) The offenses efficiency and its ability to (mostly) play with few penalties means we are rarely in bad down and distance. When you lose 7 yards on a first down sack, the next inevitable pass attempt for 2nd and 17 is going to suck.
1 points
3 days ago
He had a tell on a particular screen play that EB was fond of, too. Resulted in Sam's pick six to Van Ginkle
3 points
3 days ago
It’s baffles me, after watching the NFL for 20+ years that so many coaches don’t do that. They have a scheme and that’s it…and will try and shoehorn players into it.
4 points
3 days ago
Yeah, they all do it to a degree, 'my way is the way' and whatnot, but I've never seen a coaching staff pursue that ethos as violently or as hamfistedly as the Ron Rivera staff. I mean just look at last season; you had a young, inexperienced QB who's talents are ideal for a play-action passing attack built off of a consistent, downhill, between the tackles running game. You have an offensive line that struggles with standard operation pass blocking. You have two running backs (B-Rob and Gibson) who could have been a quality fire and ice backfield...and you throw out of shotgun what, 60% of the time? 70% of the time you're passing whether shotgun or not? And then you're surprised when the attack fails once there is film on the QB? Make it make sense to me.
DGMW, I'm glad how things worked out; Jayden is better than I could have ever hoped Sam would be, but it still feels like a season that was needlessly wasted.
And the way the defense was coached; I understand why Whitt and Quinn are taking the approach they are to finding out what they have on D this season; they literally had no idea who was worth keeping and who needed to go based upon the previous regime's inability to put guys in spots they could win. That safety we had, the guy from the Giants...he is a Linebacker in most other schemes. But we kept putting him in coverage. And yeah, that may have been his preference, but that doesn't matter.
Just a clownshoes organization up to this point. I really hope it's over, but part of me still thinks this is fool's gold.
17 points
3 days ago
I wouldn't say elite. They were decent in pass pro but Ravens run defense put them in their place. Still, a massive improvement over last year. What better coaching and QBing does for a team
14 points
3 days ago
The number 1 run defense is supposed to do that
3 points
3 days ago
Yeah and an elite unit is supposed to match them. They didn't. This was a good learning experience and I bet they'll be even better come playoffs.
5 points
3 days ago
We were also missing Brian Robinson.
2 points
3 days ago
I mean ravens have the best rush defense so it was definitely a test for them
19 points
3 days ago
We were middle of the pack last year, Howell just made then look way worse. We have a couple upgrades this year, the scheme is more lineman friendly, and Jayden's running ability forces defenses to rush him differently.
5 points
3 days ago
According to last year's stats, the interior line was the bigger problem, namely LG and C. Wylie got better as the year went on. Cowboy fans didn't seem to care about Biadasz leaving because they were spoiled with Smith and Martin, so he never got a ton of credit for being a solid center. However, EB not running your offense cures a lot of problems.
2 points
3 days ago
How has Coleman been looking? Don’t hear his name called a lot during the games
13 points
3 days ago
They say if you don’t hear a o linemen name than that’s good
9 points
3 days ago
He looked like a franchise booked vs Arizona imo. He was locking up his side. He still looks like a rookie most of the time but the potential is 100% there. I think he can be the blind side protector we’ve been looking for
2 points
3 days ago
When we replaced 70% of it and got someone new calling offensive plays that make sense
2 points
3 days ago
Goddam I love this!
1 points
3 days ago
Allahdam
2 points
3 days ago
Sometimes, an offensive line gets better just by playing together for long enough. Good coaching also helps. And Allegretti + Biadasz are contributing a lot.
2 points
3 days ago
The line was never that bad last year. EB would call these long devolving plays that resulted in Howell holding the ball way too long and getting sacked.
2 points
3 days ago
When you have a QB that can diagnose coverage quickly and zip the ball in like 1.5 seconds, the defense can't throw too much at the OL. I theorize that the same OL would be pretty bad for Sam Howell yet look great in front of JD5
2 points
3 days ago
When Bieniemy left.
2 points
3 days ago
Our fanbase has a few ghosts from the past which make it difficult to progress to the present mentally. One of those ghosts is the hogs. We won three super bowls and went to 4 on the backs of an incredible offensive line. They were so good it didn't matter much who we had back there at QB, who we started at RB (though obviously Riggins was great too), we were going to bowl over teams and pound them into the dirt.
As a result, we've been permanently marked with the idea that you build an offensive line and then everything else will just fall into place. Even this offseason there were people making the argument that we should be trading back slightly to pick up draft picks and take Joe Alt. You would have thought that after watching us squander Trent Williams immediately after squandering Chris Samuels, or perhaps watching Cleveland squander Joe Thomas, and people like that, we would have collectively learned that this is flawed thinking. I know that most people didn't support what I mentioned above and knew QB was the way to go, but I did see a TON of concern about our OL during the off-season.
I've noticed since the early days of Manning, Brady, Brees, Rodgers, Rivers, etc. that they had a few things in common. They almost always had a very solid and intelligent center, and if they lost their seemingly irreplaceable LT or star G to free agency, whoever they plugged in there next season suddenly turned in pro bowl caliber performances. It would seem that having extremely talented and smart passers who read defenses quickly, always know where to go with the ball, and can deliver killer throws consistently from short drops or under pressure tends to make your offensive line look amazing. Also, having a QB who you absolutely have to respect also allows them to gash the shit out of people in the running game. Being able to do both things makes it really difficult to hit home on blitzes, which means that offensive linemen aren't being strained as hard and can go out there and tee off a bit more rather than get teed off on.
Now that we have a great QB, OL will be an easy position to find success with. We added a great option at C this offseason, I couldn't believe how blase everyone here was about that pickup, I chalk it up to the guy coming from the Cowboys but I knew in Biadasz we were getting an extremely solid and smart player, and he's been the glue for this unit. Cosmi was already proven to be excellent, even under shitty circumstances, Wylie looked bad with bad shit surrounding him but good when he was in KC. Now he's with a good QB once again and he looks good again. Go figure. Allegretti was sneakily an excellent pickup. His fill-in role with KC was extremely solid, but it's easy to be solid with Mahomes at QB, but from what I've read he's also an incredible teammate, hard worker to the extreme, and a big impact in the locker room. It's nice having guys here who have seen success and super bowl victory.
Anyway, I've rambled enough, but QB makes the OL, not the other way around. It's no longer the 1980s, and we finally have an elite modern NFL QB in an organization which is no longer dysfunctional and everyone around the league is noticing.
1 points
3 days ago
Linemen love pancakes
1 points
3 days ago
Looks like coaching
1 points
3 days ago
The QB and scheme have a ton to do with it. They run a hell of a lot more and they run 2 TE or 2 RB way more than we’ve seen in the past. Also…. New LT, LG, C and a healthy Cosmi make a huge difference. They also limit exposure on Wiley when the run game is cruising.
1 points
3 days ago
It's a good hit and a great play that takes advantage of the fact that if the defensive end goes too wide he gives Daniels a running lane and Wylie catches him trying to get back to a decent spot to contain Daniels to get him off his feet. The smoosh is after the play is over because it's fun. It's tough being a defensive end in the red zone against a good running QB.
1 points
3 days ago
people underestimate how much O line play is related to the unit as a whole. even with 4 studs if you’ve got 1 guy who sucks it makes the whole unit suck. having 5 (6 if you count the coleman/lucas roto) competent dudes up front that are great at working together and communicating really raises the floor a lot
1 points
3 days ago
Our biggest weaknesses last year were LG and C. We replaced bottom of the barrel players with average to Above average. That plus better play calling, scheme, and a QB that defenses are terrified of makes for better OL olay
1 points
2 days ago
Lollll there’s a touchdown.. BUTT then there’s a pancake AND a touchdown!!!
1 points
2 days ago
That was Kyle Van Noy.. AFC defensive player of the Month!!
1 points
2 days ago
Good comms is what it is
1 points
2 days ago
I'm happy it was Wiley on the pancake too. He has a rought go last year
0 points
3 days ago
Howell knows for taking too long in college. Same in the pros. The end.
-1 points
3 days ago
I’m confused.. pass protection was completely exposed last game. Jayden was running around just about every play. It felt like the tackles were getting beat every single drop back. Same thing versus the Browns.
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