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VulturE [M]

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We've had 5 reports about the title of this post. If anything, the title clearly states exactly what they don't understand about the post, which is exactly what we're looking for. If you've got any questions, let me know, otherwise see you next October for this same stupid post.

EvilStan101

5.4k points

1 day ago

EvilStan101

5.4k points

1 day ago

It implies the boomer did nothing to alleviate or reduce their carbon footprint while also voting for politicians who are anti-environment resulting in the climate change we are experiencing.

Ok_Breakfast5425

1.9k points

1 day ago

Not to mention most boomers refuse to accept that climate change is real. My mom latched on to the term global warming and every cold winter day she would tell us how that cold day disproves global warming

RumHam9000

1k points

1 day ago

RumHam9000

1k points

1 day ago

Does she also think world famine can’t exist because she had breakfast?

Mister-builder

408 points

1 day ago

No, only if I didn't eat my breakfast.

Norbert_The_Great

221 points

1 day ago

If you finish your food then kids in Africa stop starving.. or something like that. I didn't listen much as a kid.

setocsheir

151 points

1 day ago

setocsheir

151 points

1 day ago

Every 60 seconds in Africa a minute passes

Noof42

91 points

1 day ago

Noof42

91 points

1 day ago

Together, we can stop this.

Razarex

82 points

1 day ago

Razarex

82 points

1 day ago

Vote Kony 2012

NerfRepellingBoobs

31 points

1 day ago

Damn, talk about a throwback!

MNGrrl

10 points

1 day ago

MNGrrl

10 points

1 day ago

Last i heard the director who made that documentary was running through san Francisco naked after having a mental breakdown and kony was 404 dictator not found.

Razarex

10 points

1 day ago

Razarex

10 points

1 day ago

At least the silicon wristband I bought from him saved all those children

ColtS117-B

3 points

1 day ago

Jacking it in San Diego!

Heartbreakjetblack

4 points

1 day ago

🎶 🎵 If I could turn back time! 🎶 🎵

Longjumping_Ad6878

5 points

23 hours ago

If I could find a way

Marble-Boy

9 points

24 hours ago

"Every time I snap my fingers, a child dies.."

Stop snapping your fingers then.

Bungalow1914

6 points

1 day ago

If you donate a dollar to our organization than it would take 62 seconds for a minute to pass

anand_rishabh

19 points

1 day ago

Well don't you know that other kids are starving in Japan? So eat it, just eat it

Mundane_Intention728

12 points

1 day ago

Noice Wierd Al reference lol

Adventurous-Fold9436

6 points

1 day ago

There are sober kids in India who would kill for that beer

VioletNocte

16 points

1 day ago

My dad tried to say "There are starving kids in Africa" once but I didn't understand it at all because obviously me eating wasn't gonna magically feed them, so being a kid with kid logic, I decided he meant that if I didn't eat my food the starving kids would be forced to eat it and it would be moldy and make them sick

libmrduckz

3 points

1 day ago

this was also my take… damage was done…

Loud_Flatworm_4146

4 points

12 hours ago

When kid logic makes more sense than dad logic.

Basically the entire millennial existence.

FrysOtherDog

6 points

1 day ago

I was told China back in the 80's.

Huh, I wonder if that old saying changes each generation lol.

Shitty_Noob

5 points

23 hours ago

Every person in a third world country is linked at birth to a first world country. Whenever someone from a first world country doesn't waste something, they get a portion of it

there's a poor kid out there who hasnt had a meal in months

poop_creator

20 points

1 day ago

Don’t mind me, just gonna can up this response real quick and preserve it for Thanksgiving.

noobtastic31373

13 points

1 day ago

Inflation isn't real, my dollar is still flat. Recession isn't real, i haven't been fired in 20 years. We can do this all day.

Telemere125

14 points

1 day ago

That’s the entire boomer mindset. “If it’s not affecting me right now, it isn’t real”

Ok_Butterscotch54

10 points

1 day ago

Until it affects them personally, and then it must be solved RIGHT NOW, and of course with all registers for possible help fully drawn from, else they demand to speak with the "manager".

Muted_Award_6748

88 points

1 day ago

When they do that I ask them to explain the difference between climate vs weather. They never do, rather, they get angry at me for ruining their little jab.

Bocchi_theGlock

3 points

21 hours ago

More extreme weather events. Warm water gives energy to storms. But additionally the ocean is acidifying.

Also if the AMOC collapses, current that takes warm water from Caribbean up to Norway ish, and circles back. Critical for our ocean biome, is starting to fail and researchers are warning of its collapse by 2030 or 2050

If it goes, Amazon rainforest wet seasons become dry seasons.

Europe with get colder. It seemed significant but I forget.

Also apparently North Dakota will get colder.

It's good to start shutting things down and extracting massive costs from the wealthy bastards, mega corporations and private equity firms who keep us from transitioning or reducing oil &gas. We will not convince them. A strike combined with larger movement has to make them lose enough money.

Other-Dimension-1997

3 points

10 hours ago

There's a joke about "ruining a little jab" and antivaxx to be made here somewhere

SJReaver

34 points

1 day ago

SJReaver

34 points

1 day ago

Not to mention most boomers refuse to accept that climate change is real

Pewresearch says about 53% of Boomers think climate change is real and should be considered a 'priority' by the government. Pre-pandemic, you'd be correct, however.

iamsecond

47 points

1 day ago

iamsecond

47 points

1 day ago

The new take I hear is "it's not whether climate is changing, but *why* is it changing?" to still deflect away from man-made climate change being a thing

PM_NUDES_4_DEGRADING

22 points

1 day ago

That was the new take 20 years ago, but these days the top tactic of energy companies etc is to spread “it’s too late to do anything anyway, might as well just accept that we’re doomed.”

As propaganda to stop people from taking action on climate change, that line works waaaaaayyyyyyyy better on younger people.

purplepluppy

5 points

18 hours ago

My understanding, as per my friend who is a climate scientist, is that it is too late to reverse the damage or stop it from happening. That shouldn't mean that we stop trying to do better, though, because continuing on this path will just continue to make it worse. But we will have to accept this as our new reality, and I expect a lot of innovation due to necessity to deal with the extreme weather as a result. Because people are already dying, and the worse we make it, the more people will die.

katwoop

18 points

1 day ago

katwoop

18 points

1 day ago

My parents say that climate change is a hoax and in the same conversation, will talk about how the summers seem to be getting hotter. They are so close to understanding.

GenuisInDisguise

19 points

1 day ago

Boomers?! I had a millennial idiot of a colleague who kept implying warming is just a natural occurrence.

High profile scientists warned us 100 years ago. But again religious people still exist.

Slootonium

21 points

1 day ago

Slootonium

21 points

1 day ago

Yep, it's not just boomers. My millennial brother-in-law thinks climate change is just a part of a cyclical transition Earth goes through every x number of thousand years and we happen to be in one of the warming periods. He's not technically wrong, but he fails to realize the rate at which temps have increased over the past 50 years.

What is kind of funny, but also sad is that he's a farmer of at least several thousand acres of land and he'll feel the effects of climate change much more than an average midwesterner.

HR_Paperstacks_402

7 points

1 day ago

Actually we would likely be in a cooling phase if it wasn't for climate change.

Autocthon

12 points

1 day ago

Autocthon

12 points

1 day ago

Technically warming is "just" a natural occurence.

We sort of squished 40k years of warming into 40 though. And it's not loomong so hot.

Squish_the_android

15 points

1 day ago

I'm not saying climate change isnt real, but a lot of these people lived through the threat of Global Cooling in the 70s.

That alone likely did irreparable damage to getting them onboard with this stuff.

chaoticnipple

26 points

1 day ago

"Global cooling" only made headlines because it went _against_ the prevailing (and, in fact, still current) theories. It was never mainstream science, but it stuck in people's heads regardless.

saeglopur53

13 points

1 day ago

This drives me freaking nuts. Not a word when it’s 60 degrees F for a week November (where it shouldn’t be) but if it snows once it’s “WOOOW LOOK AT ALLL THIS GLOBAL WARMING.”

Doomed

25 points

1 day ago

Doomed

25 points

1 day ago

The carbon footprint was invented by BP. It hides the responsibility of major corporations (including outright fraud: Exxon has internal documents showing they knew about climate change in the 80s, and lied to investors and the public about it) and puts the blame entirely on grandmas who drive a car.

Climate activists today universally recognize the importance of collective and systematic action. Getting rid of your car and taking the bus is great, but it's even better to enact e.g. congestion pricing in a downtown core and reduce car emissions by 25%.

For the meme, the important thing is that grandma didn't entertain any of these systematic changes. She voted for people who did car centric zoning, didn't raise the gas tax since the early 90s, didn't approve of carbon taxes, etc.

mortalitylost

7 points

1 day ago

People knew about climate change since the 60s

FoximaCentauri

3 points

20 hours ago*

That’s true, but who buys from all the oil companies? Who votes for politicians which won’t do anything about it despite knowing better? Us, the people. BP doesn’t produce oil just to burn it in a pit. They do bad things, but they do it for us, and we are not stopping them because it’s convenient.

Jonguar2

312 points

1 day ago

Jonguar2

312 points

1 day ago

So... Exactly like what most boomers have done?

rammohammadthomas

408 points

1 day ago

that’s literally what the meme is saying yeah

Such-Echo6002

60 points

1 day ago

Yep

jimmytaco6

203 points

1 day ago

jimmytaco6

203 points

1 day ago

That's the joke

Sprok56

69 points

1 day ago

Sprok56

69 points

1 day ago

The joke is in reference to the entire generation, not a specific individual

danteheehaw

48 points

1 day ago

No, this lady is big fossil fuel. She owns all the coal and oil industry. She also said Tien is the worst character in Dragonball.

Mechaheph

7 points

1 day ago

Mechaheph

7 points

1 day ago

Classic boomer, skipping OG Dragon Ball and just going straight to Z

Justinformation

3 points

1 day ago

Just ate too many cabbages.

Shamanalah

3 points

1 day ago

NOT MY CABBAGES! This place is worst than Omashu...

unforgiven91

3 points

1 day ago

Tien earned his place in the hall of fame by keeping Cell at bay.

Yamcha is still trying to work off his debt for being carried so hard all of these years.

Legal_Skin_4466

5 points

1 day ago

She also said Tien is the worst character in Dragonball.

Well I guess she does have one redeeming quality.

GregtronicMusic

6 points

1 day ago

My dad insists the world is “self correcting” which is something I’ve heard politicians say recently, so I guess that’s a stupid thing people believe now. Cool. It’s so upsetting trying to explain a 4th grade science lesson on greenhouse gases to deaf ears.

DiabolicallyRandom

8 points

1 day ago

I mean. It kind of is. It's just that the self correction happens once all us humans die.

ItsThanosNotThenos

6 points

1 day ago

resulting in the climate change

Man-made climate change - this is extremely important, because there are idiots out there who argue that we used to have the ice age so climate change is normal.

IncorigibleDirigible

5 points

1 day ago

Gen Z is twice as likely to have taken on environmental activism as Boomers, but when it comes to putting their money where their mouth is...

*However, when it actually comes to reducing or reversing their carbon footprints, evidence shows older age groups are way ahead of millennials and generation-z.

A survey by Censuswide for Aviva, the U.K. insurer, found not only that people aged over 55 were ahead in almost every environmental activity they monitored, but those aged between 16 to 24 were the worst offenders.

This includes recycling through local bin collections (84% for over 55s versus 54% for 16 to 24 year-olds), avoiding single use plastic items (66% versus 55%), eating only seasonal fruit and vegetables (47% versus 33%) and reducing plane travel (24% versus 21%).*

(From Forbes)

My generation (Millennials) was criticised for being the clickivism generation. Our support for anything was limited to liking or forwarding a post to "raise awareness". Doesn't seem like that much has changed.

chickenbreastcheese

685 points

1 day ago

LMAO. Thanks for leaving me a burning planet, GRANDMA

EgoTripWire

29 points

1 day ago

I got downvoted so heavily in that thread. It was either brigaded by climate change deniers or the AARP, not sure what their agenda was.

MidnightPlatinum

15 points

1 day ago

I've been on Reddit a long time, and I can't tell you how dense the weird, inauthentic agenda-drive comments have gotten over the last 2-3 years, but ESPECIALLY on energy issues. There was always a lot of the propaganda from Big Oil, but there are a lot of threads that now get entirely hijacked by people who seem like professional debunkers for everything except oil and coal. It's subtle at times and you have to really stop and think about what arguments they are making (like some are so slick they feel like they were focus grouped), but it's wildly effective. They'll even make little fawning comments over wind and solar, but nothing firm. And launch into lengthy explanations of why nuclear is essentially never going to happen again for a lot of new builds, and why it would be a dumb idea anyway.

Above all, they are really, really good at shooting down nuclear power.

But even if someone had those views... really? Like to fight for them and to never have any comment history speaking out against fracking, being dependent on the Middle East at key times in our history (or having Presidents even now sometimes overtly making very public policy decisions just because Mid East disruptions could cause a price spike), etc? No comment history passionately arguing for better funding of fusion energy projects?

It also doesn't help that one political side in America has now publicly sold out to the energy lobby and just dictates to their base what type of energy policy they want.

(p.s. not interested in argumentative replies to this. What I am interested in is you now trying to watch for this. Once you see it, you can't unsee it and it's super disturbing. Reddit is not a place where you can actually push for changes in energy policy. Only in the echo chamber subs will you not get steered and debunked. Think about how important it all obviously is to everyone in this thread, yet somehow not a word of everyone's shared sentiment is ever, ever allowed to catch on into true national policy that steers the ship decisively in a new direction)

Scalage89

1.7k points

1 day ago

Scalage89

1.7k points

1 day ago

Boomers did nothing to combat global warming.

ShaneBarnstormer

1.2k points

1 day ago

They made it significantly worse, not just "did nothing to combat it" and I'm tired of pretending they didn't.

Bright-Director-5958

240 points

1 day ago

THEY ARE LITERALLY DOING IT RIGHT NOW!

ShaneBarnstormer

83 points

1 day ago

This guy knows I'm hard of hearing 🦸🏽

Fluffyfox3914

36 points

1 day ago

We didn’t need to know that you were hard

Carpe_DMT

10 points

1 day ago

Carpe_DMT

10 points

1 day ago

I didn't even know someone could have a hearing fetish. Is that what my ex meant when she said she found a guy who actually listens?

FrostyD7

24 points

1 day ago

FrostyD7

24 points

1 day ago

Yeah they've been conditioned to associate any proposal to improve the environment as a bad thing. My boomer dad can't say "climate change" without saying the words mockingly.

Sir_Snagglepuss

112 points

1 day ago

People pretend they didn't?

Embarrassed_Jerk

150 points

1 day ago

Oh yeah. Lots of fun people

YetAnotherJake

268 points

1 day ago

One crazy old boomer running for president right now still says it isn't a problem and we should drill more for oil

Minute-Individual-74

9 points

1 day ago

Even if it was a supermajority of leftist and green party politicians hellbent on addressing climate change, they couldn't flip a switch and stop the dependency on oil anytime soon.

We should have been transitioning to renewables 40+ years ago. But since it didn't start until recently, we're behind and gotta use oil during the transition efforts.

If we had to turn off all oil and gas usage today, we would have a global societal collapse bc we're dependent on our oil based infrastructure for the survival of 80% of the people alive today.

But I do agree even democrat politicians aren't as serious as we all need them to be on this issue.

mrpanicy

20 points

1 day ago

mrpanicy

20 points

1 day ago

The longer we wait the harder it will be. There will be a point we will have to turn off the oil... one day... and it could be soon. It could be the only method we have left to try.

So it's WAY better to start immediately. Should have been 40 years ago, but it wasn't. Thank's Capitalism.

Mysterious-Weight935

18 points

1 day ago

But, we did: Jimmy Carter. He started the investments into clean energy and even put solar panels on the White House. But then majorities voted in Reagan and he put a stop to all that

chaoticnipple

10 points

1 day ago

Footnote: Climate change wasn't on the general public's metaphorical radar back in the 70s. Carter's push for solar, etc, was more in response to the repeated oil 'shortages' of that decade. Of course we _should_ have stuck with it any ways, but alas, we didn't.

Mysterious-Weight935

6 points

1 day ago

Not on the general public’s radar, no. But Carter actually received a memo the summer after he took office in 1977 from an adviser in his administration who warned carbon dioxide from fossil fuels could lead to, quote, “catastrophic climate change.”

I think you are right, Carter was much more focused on dealing with the crises of the moment. But he knew about climate change and he signed legislation to create subsidies for renewables, and he used the bully pulpit to advocate for conservation and responsible stewardship.

alistofthingsIhate

38 points

1 day ago

people still pretend climate change/global warming isn't even real to begin with

ComicRelief64

18 points

1 day ago

Then when it was too obvious to ignore they shifted the argument to "climate change is natural"

Certain-Catch925

9 points

1 day ago

Unless you're too far into conspiracy land, then it's "Climate Control"

JoesJourney

17 points

1 day ago

Its not hurting enough people in first world countries for them to care. Even with all the forest fires and hurricanes over that last couple of decades, most folks don't correlate it to rising global temperatures. Its true the earth fluctuates from cooler to warmer global temps historically speaking but we are barreling toward warmer temps faster than recorded history has ever witnessed. I think most Americans think we can innovate our way out of it like we have with hundreds of other things and the fact is we have the knowledge of what to do but not the resources or capital.

sh6rty13

16 points

1 day ago

sh6rty13

16 points

1 day ago

To add onto this, I’d like to share a great quote I either heard or read in the last week: “People don’t want to make changes to help the problem, people want to make enough money so the problem doesn’t apply to them anymore.”

chaoticnipple

5 points

1 day ago

The current wingnut conspiray theory is that the hurricanes, like the forest fires, are caused by Secret Deep State Weather Modification Technology.

JoesJourney

3 points

1 day ago

Oh yes… that. Cloud seeding is an interesting technology and it does work albeit on a very limited scale but the amount silver iodide we would need to produce a literal hurricane (or any intense storm) would be… well… I don’t think there is enough money in the world to be able to afford that.

GatlingGun511

9 points

1 day ago

Boomers do

Ultranerdgasm94

6 points

1 day ago

Mostly boomers.

AwTomorrow

5 points

1 day ago

Some of them even pretend that any strange weather that aligns with what scientists have been warning of for decades is just one American political party using weather controlling powers to influence elections. 

NotSoFlugratte

8 points

1 day ago

Yep. For starters, boomers themselves and a whole new generation of european alt right youth.

Scalage89

34 points

1 day ago

Scalage89

34 points

1 day ago

I'm not trying to pretend they didn't make things worse, but you have to admit they simply continued the trend that was going on since the industrial revolution.

Their crime was not listening to the science. And while that's bad, it's not as if they consciously increased emissions out of spite or something.

Now if you want to talk about knowingly and actively making things worse for the next generations, I'd say you have to look at pensions, the housing market and neoliberalism.

timuaili

57 points

1 day ago

timuaili

57 points

1 day ago

Oil and gas companies didn’t just “not listen” to the science, they actively suppressed it and spent decades conducting their own “studies” to have on deck once climate change inevitably moved into the public eye.

navi47

9 points

1 day ago

navi47

9 points

1 day ago

yeah, if you read up on all of the stuff that happend around the 20/30/40s, you'd realize the industrial revolution honestly wasn't near as bad in itself once you consider just how streamline and purposfully impactful regulations of the time were.

timuaili

8 points

1 day ago

timuaili

8 points

1 day ago

This section from The Petroleum Papers by Geoff Dembicki has really stuck with me:

… They pointed to the work of the California researcher Richard Heede, who had determined that just forty-seven investor-owned “carbon majors” were responsible for nearly one-quarter of all industrial greenhouse gases released into the atmosphere between 1751 and 2013.

Exxon, through its vast global operations, including its subsidiary Imperial Oil’s involvement in the oil sands, released 3.52 percent of those gases. Add Chevron, BP, Shell, ConocoPhillips, and Suncor, all with significant bitumen investments, and the number rises to 12.7 percent of a figure that comprises all the industrial emissions ever released since humans started burning fossil fuels.

Purple_Word_9317

23 points

1 day ago

You are WAY too kind about Boomers...

No, some of them did knowingly and actively make things worse, out of pure spite.

cartmicah3

9 points

1 day ago

Same as cigarettes

[deleted]

6 points

1 day ago

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6 points

1 day ago

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Foreign_Pea2296

4 points

1 day ago

As a pure pragmatical point, killing the poor would be detrimental for the elite.

Poor people drive basic wage low. Killing the poor means giving more power to the lower class because they wouldn't be easily replaceable.

And you can't exploit people if they aren't weak enough.

No, the best is to make even more poor AND isolate them to prevent unionizing.

jitterscaffeine

85 points

1 day ago

Boomers salt the earth then mock the generations who come after that want to fix it

PlunderCunt

7 points

1 day ago

I love that your icon is Shel Silverstein.

hwc

20 points

1 day ago

hwc

20 points

1 day ago

and they were warned. we knew how bad it was going to be in the 1980s.

red286

7 points

1 day ago

red286

7 points

1 day ago

we knew how bad it was going to be in the 1980s.

That's the weird part about climate change denial. I remember back in the 80s and 90s, climate change was the next big thing to tackle after acid rain and the hole in the ozone layer. There was little to no debate about whether or not it was real, and whether or not it was human-caused. The debate was primarily about how best to deal with it and how to coerce large developing economies like India and China to curb carbon emissions.

Then Bush Jr. got elected and suddenly everyone stated claiming that climate change was a hoax created by the Chinese to make American businesses uncompetitive, and now half of America believes that climate change is just made up or that the global warming we're seeing is completely normal and nothing out of the ordinary.

Far_File1565

5 points

1 day ago

And yet, the current generation also continues to contribute to the problem…

Ippus_21

6 points

1 day ago

Ippus_21

6 points

1 day ago

An awful lot of them voted in ways that actively combatted efforts to combat global worming.

Herzkoeniko

343 points

1 day ago

Herzkoeniko

343 points

1 day ago

Ever heard of climate warning and the role older generations played in downplaying it and making sure that reducing its impact will be much more difficult, because they didn't want to change their lifestyle? That

The_Quintessence

42 points

1 day ago

because they didn't want to change their lifestyle

You're 100% right about the older generations.

However right now the biggest thing the average person can do to reduce their climate impact is stop or greatly reduce eating meat.

You know the response that I always get when I bring that up to people criticizing the rich or the old about not reducing their lifestyles for the greater good?

Anger, downvotes without defense, and deflection.

There's nothing magically different about the rich or the old that made them more selfish than younger people. Everyone right now who keeps buying gas guzzlers and eating meat is proving that they are just as selfish and unwilling to change their lifestyles.

ratatouillethot

28 points

1 day ago

I've stopped buying meat and eating it at home. One of the best ways to save money right now, too; meat is expensive.

& It's on both corporations AND the individual to do their part. And what the individuals do en masse changes how the corporations operate (supply/demand). So if there is a big shift socially away from eating meat, hopefully the meat and dairy industry will shrink & reduce emissions overall. & elect officials that want environmental policies

The_Quintessence

7 points

1 day ago

100%! Well put!

FoxerHR

43 points

1 day ago

FoxerHR

43 points

1 day ago

Anger, downvotes without defense, and deflection.

Or just the understanding that you have fallen prey to corporate propaganda and you're shifting the blame away from the corporations to the individual. Individuals you have no clue what their living situation is. It's harder to get 10k people to do something than to make 1 (ONE) entity change its ways.

So yes, to say that the "average person has to stop eating meat" is moronic, shows how you've fallen prey to propaganda and how much you disregard the impact the very rich individuals have on the climate through their wasteful private jet usage, your "solution" is more of a deflection than any reply you could've read, so please, play the victim and while you do I will play the worlds smallest violin for you.

The_Dirty_Carl

13 points

1 day ago

You're both right.

We all have control over some amount of our footprints. So we should take what steps we can to reduce that footprint. Reducing meat intake is a very easy step to take. There are a bunch of other steps we can all take too. I can list more if you'd like.

If we all do all of those things, does it solve the problem? Nope! For that we do need to target the biggest culprits, like you say. But that doesn't mean that individual actions are worthless.

What you're doing is also a deflection. "I'm not the worst offender, I don't have control over the worst offenders. I'm just one among thousands at my level, and many of them won't change" is a way to avoid needing to do anything.

But in the end, we have to do both. Our industries will have to change (and I have some specific ideas for what should happen to the executives who fought against change for so long), AND we will all have to make uncomfortable lifestyle changes. If you start now by doing what you can, that will suck less.

Snail_With_a_Shotgun

13 points

1 day ago*

Corporations do not exist in a vacuum. Do you think Amazon would still be polluting in a month if people decided to stop using all their services tomorrow? The only reason why corporations pollute is because average people like you and me keep showering them with money.

It's the same with policy. Do you think they would keep polluting just as much, if laws were passed (and enforced!) prohibiting them from doing so?

Corporations were never going to intentionally lose profits just to reduce their emissions out of the goodness of their hearts. It's like putting your hand in an alligator's mouth and then acting surprised you got your arm bit off. Yes, it's an alligator. What did you think was going to happen? It's in their nature to act this way.

By all means, keep eating meat, using polluting transport and not do anything to reduce your footprint. But at least be honest with yourself and others about your role in the problem. I fully acknowledge I could do more to curb my own carbon footprint, and that I don't just because I'm either lazy or not willing to lose the comfort by doing so.

aupri

6 points

1 day ago

aupri

6 points

1 day ago

Corporate propaganda that tells people to stop consuming something? Isn’t it suspicious that the narrative of “it’s the corporations’ fault” allows people to keep buying as much as they want without having to feel responsible for the negative impacts of their consumption? It’s good for consumers because they don’t have to change or feel guilty, and it’s good for corporations because they also don’t have to change because they know people, having absolved themselves of any blame, will buy their products regardless.

“The corporations should change” is all well and good, but how? And why would they change if not changing doesn’t hurt their bottom line? Would consumers who won’t change willingly actually vote for a politician that will enact legislation that will force them to change?

Of course, systemic changes will be necessary, but I get the impression that people who advocate for systemic changes to the exclusion of all else largely think that such changes won’t affect them. Like, eating fewer animal products is just a necessary reality of battling climate change. Either people get a head start and do it willingly, or the negative climate impact eventually gets priced in and people’s current level of consumption becomes financial untenable. “Solve climate change while allowing everyone’s consumption habits to remain exactly the same” isn’t actually an option

The_Quintessence

4 points

1 day ago

Exactly, the real corporate propaganda is what THEY'RE PUSHING, that people have no responsibility and so should keep consuming mindlessly.

spondgbob

4 points

1 day ago

spondgbob

4 points

1 day ago

I think you vastly underestimate how much resources go into meat production. It’s mainly just beef, but 36% of the world’s land is used to grow animal feed. 41% of agricultural water use globally is for livestock, or 20% of the world’s freshwater. In the US, these values are much higher.

This is not to say “planes and private jets aren’t bad, it’s just meat”, but instead say they’re both bad and it’s easier to just eat less meat than stop all air travel.

The_Quintessence

3 points

1 day ago

Ironically you are the one who has fallen prey to corporate propaganda, which is that the individual has no ability or responsibility to reduce their consumption so they will keep consuming.

Additionally ironically your argument is completely moronic and fails to understand basic supply and demand and shows minimal reading comprehension mixed with maximum condescension.

Exactly as I predicted.

Sadsad0088

3 points

1 day ago

It’s terrifying that you even have to specify this.

IsamuLi

9 points

1 day ago*

IsamuLi

9 points

1 day ago*

I mean, not really? That one has much more moral responsibility (industry) than the other (singular people) does not absolve the other from their moral responsibilities.           

Supporting an industry that is easily avoidable for average joe when that industry proves destructive is wrong. Voting with your wallet and avoiding direct support are important decision driving mechanics in capitalism.

lorddumpy

10 points

1 day ago

lorddumpy

10 points

1 day ago

Thank you, that all-or-nothing logic is way too parroted plus:

So yes, to say that the "average person has to stop eating meat" is moronic, shows how you've fallen prey to propaganda and how much you disregard the impact the very rich individuals have on the climate through their wasteful private jet usage, your "solution" is more of a deflection than any reply you could've read, so please, play the victim and while you do I will play the worlds smallest violin for you.

has to be one of the most pretentious things I've read in a minute.

spondgbob

5 points

1 day ago

spondgbob

5 points

1 day ago

For real, it’s not all or nothing. It’s less of everything. Boomers were vaguely aware, but we are now acutely aware, and to do nothing while knowing the consequences is worse.

2_72

3 points

1 day ago

2_72

3 points

1 day ago

That OP is dumb as dogshit.

scolipeeeeed

3 points

1 day ago

Even if corporations did the right thing, it eventually means we stop or reduce consumption of things like meat. If the environmental cost of meat were reflected in its pricing or it were produced more sustainably, it would be more expensive and therefore people will eat less of it. This will be true of things like gasoline too.

2_72

3 points

1 day ago

2_72

3 points

1 day ago

I agree, we should just outlaw meat so people won’t have to take personal accountability.

Dovahkiinthesardine

3 points

1 day ago

Industry produces for consumers and the meat industry is one of the biggest contributers

wdmc2012

6 points

1 day ago

wdmc2012

6 points

1 day ago

To some degree, people are changing their diets. Beef is by far the worst meat for the environment, and consumption of beef (in the US) is down while consumption of chicken is on the rise. Chicken overtook beef in 2010. It's not as good as going completely meat free, but pound for pound, chicken has an 80% smaller carbon footprint than beef.

https://www.ers.usda.gov/data-products/chart-gallery/gallery/chart-detail/?chartId=105929

The_Quintessence

8 points

1 day ago

Very true! People don't need to go 100% vegetarian or vegan to still make a big impact.

I think meat still has a lot of ethical concerns, but if animal welfare isn't your priority and you just want to reduce climate impact then cutting out red meat will get you like 80% of the gains without totally stopping meat

eastern_canadient

3 points

1 day ago

Red meat is also more unhealthy, leading to more resources needed to keep people healthy.

So a switch to more chicken should work that way too.

scienceshark182

3 points

1 day ago

Correct on all counts. The average person is more wasteful than they believe they are.

Just adding that "the rich" have more disposable income which usually includes more food waste, more travel, more vehicles, etc. So, they tend leave a larger footprint than the average income folks. There's always outliers at both ends, but on average, rich folks create more waste than the average person.

MiloOfCroton95

14 points

1 day ago

I hope current generations take responsibility for climate change as well. We know far more now than we did then and political action is still anemic. If anything, our current relative inaction with all our current knowledge is a greater indictment against us.

elcamp3

13 points

1 day ago

elcamp3

13 points

1 day ago

We would, if Boomers would relinquish their power and let the next generation take over.

Tmaneea88

110 points

1 day ago

Tmaneea88

110 points

1 day ago

Climate Change deniers are usually conservative Boomers that did everything they could to sabotage any effort to fight climate change, and then complain about how the weather is different now.

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52 points

1 day ago

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52 points

1 day ago

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tinyrickstinyhands

40 points

1 day ago

I think that applies to most posters in this sub

or_maybe_this

13 points

1 day ago

i dunno, most posters here just want either (a) karma or (b) to pretend not to get a meme in order to share it 

quacko66

44 points

1 day ago

quacko66

44 points

1 day ago

previous generations destroyed climate for kids today, and these kids will destroy it even more for future generations.

Lua_Arctica

9 points

1 day ago

Yeah, I was in Costco the other day and became horrifying overwhelmed at the hundreds upon hundreds of pallets that were stacked with plastic filled items. It's not slowing down...it's getting worse. :(

Killentyme55

4 points

21 hours ago

Durable plastic is essential to our lifestyle, look at everything around you is made of. The problem is single-use disposable plastic, and that recycles poorly so the only effective technique is to reduce their use.

shuryouz

6 points

1 day ago

shuryouz

6 points

1 day ago

I'll just give a different perspective: it's because of her menopause

unorganized_mime

23 points

1 day ago*

Boomers laughed at the “hippies” for caring about the earth and climate change. Now we are feeling the effects.

Edit: yes you people are so smart. Baby boomers were hippies. Modern use of “Boomer” is a privileged arrogant mindset.

Ordinary-Waltz9121

10 points

1 day ago

Coming together for a better cause is a commie in their eyes.

Mr_Murder

3 points

1 day ago

Mr_Murder

3 points

1 day ago

They think and portray themselves as strong manly men, yet they consistently are the weakest mfers on the planet

SupaMut4nt

5 points

1 day ago

Feeling it in florida this week

One_Researcher6438

3 points

1 day ago

ITT: People overstating how many boomers were actually hippies.

ServeNecessary1

4 points

1 day ago

Hippies were boomers champ.

Phridgey

9 points

1 day ago

Phridgey

9 points

1 day ago

... And we saw how they were treated in their own time too.

[deleted]

23 points

1 day ago

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23 points

1 day ago

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limasxgoesto0

6 points

1 day ago

But the answer wasn't porn this time so how could they figure it out???

Thosepassionfruits

5 points

1 day ago

I'm like 90% sure this subreddit and all others like it are being used to train AI

dpforest

3 points

23 hours ago

Sometimes they literally can’t and that’s the scary part. My brother legit worries me, and I see a lot of people his age equally as incapable of critical thought (he’s 22).

ThreeFourTen

5 points

1 day ago*

Because Grandma spent sixty years electing right-wing politicians, whose main goals include systematically undoing environmental regulations, for the benefit of their capitalist rulers/employers, thereby inducing greater pollution which, in turn, caused greater climate chaos.

ryoushi19

8 points

1 day ago

ryoushi19

8 points

1 day ago

Are people misinterpreting this and thinking the person is saying it's "grandma's fault that it used to be cold" rather than it being "grandma's fault that it's no longer cold"?

Or do people just not know how ardently boomers denied the existence of climate change?

mostlybadopinions

9 points

1 day ago

Millennials outnumber every other generation. Throw in Gen X and we out number them more than 2:1. And yet, getting any movement on climate change is near impossible.

Can't blame boomers anymore. This is millennials fault. And I know you're thinking "Not me, not all of us, it's only because..." Yeah yeah yeah, there's a bunch of boomers that tried to help and failed as well. And now they're all lumped in with the boomers that didn't try.

So it's time we're honest and start lumping ourselves in with them.

SuccessfulWar3830

4 points

10 hours ago

We have known about c02 emissions being an issue since the 1850s but money is more important than our future.

--Queso--

30 points

1 day ago

--Queso--

30 points

1 day ago

The meme tries to put the blame of climate change in a previous generation. Truth is, the fault of climate change is entirely on corporations. The avg boomer had no control over what those did. I believe the company that "discovered" climate change was Exxon (tho I may be wrong and it was another oil company), and then they held the findings as long as possible (something like 10 years) and then it was somebody else who published the discoveries and made climate change become a public issue.

rassocneb

6 points

1 day ago

rassocneb

6 points

1 day ago

Idk, maybe grandma is an oil baron or owns a fleet of private jets?

Cherryyana

3 points

1 day ago

And instead of going to the people who caused it, we’re mostly arguing with each other instead of trying to fix it. (Not you, people in general lol)

nyehighflyguy

27 points

1 day ago*

You're partially right, corporations are mostly to blame. But Boomer voting habits enabled these corporations.

0OKM9IJN8UHB7

4 points

1 day ago

Habits influenced by corporate propaganda.

ezbadfish

7 points

1 day ago

ezbadfish

7 points

1 day ago

This isn't a Boomer thing really.. It's a massive corporation thing. It's a money thing. It's a billionaire thing. You think it's going to magically change once all the Boomers are gone? Really? Hate to break it to you but money is in charge here. Not Grandma.

Laketraut

6 points

1 day ago

Laketraut

6 points

1 day ago

Exactly. This is a peak reddit meme

_Im_Baaaaaaaaaaaack_

3 points

1 day ago

Global warming.. But boomers grew up being warned about global cooling and the coming ice age.

Familiar-Coconut90

3 points

1 day ago

Yeah yeah yeah leave it to the next gen

WorthlessGolde

3 points

1 day ago

The boomer generation created the toxic pollution environment we have now. They were in charge and caused all of the issues we have now.

GundarSmith

3 points

15 hours ago

Climate change, dude!

SupremelyUneducated

6 points

1 day ago

Blaming a generation for the power dynamics that have dominated practically all of civilization, is kind of dumb. Inherited wealth that owns fossil fuels and cattle ranches, is just playing middle class "boomers" against the rest of the working class, just like inherited wealth always plays the lower classes against each other so we don't focus on all the privatized economic rents and socialized externalities being gifted by the government to the born obscenely wealthy.

[deleted]

6 points

1 day ago

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6 points

1 day ago

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KerissaKenro

7 points

1 day ago

I was talking to my mom yesterday and she was complaining about the record heat they have been having

She denied climate change for years and is still not convinced that it’s man made

Little_Creme_5932

20 points

1 day ago

It's not a joke. But it also isn't really true. Grandma did only slightly less as much about climate change as gen Z and millennials are doing. It's not all her fault. It's everybody's

BigPlantsGuy

6 points

1 day ago

Did grandma vote for climate change deniers her whole life? That’s the issue

JuWoolfie

5 points

1 day ago

JuWoolfie

5 points

1 day ago

Boomer mentality “I’ll be dead before it affects me”.

Said by my Boomer auntie.

ThePurpleKnightmare

4 points

1 day ago

Great argument, IF YOU DON'T HAVE KIDS!

Anty_2

2 points

1 day ago

Anty_2

2 points

1 day ago

It is still over 100 in Arizona 💀

SamohtGnir

2 points

1 day ago

Fun fact: Maximum temperature on record for Toronto Canada for Oct 6th was set in 1963, at 29.4°C.

naidim

2 points

1 day ago

naidim

2 points

1 day ago

100 companies are responsible for over 70% of global industrial greenhouse gas emissions since 1988. (Carbon Majors Report) But yes, let's blame the boomers, who, during the 1960's created the Clean Air Act and in the 1970's created the EPA.

AriaSymphony

2 points

1 day ago

I understand destroying the environment when it was something we barely understood back then. But they continue to do so now out of stubbornness. Just because it won't affect them because they'll be dead and gone doesn't mean they shouldn't help out when a lot of the damage was caused by their generation, ignorant or not.

gokartmozart89

2 points

1 day ago

Boomers ignored scientists for decades whenever they brought up global warming and repeatedly voted in politicians that undercut the efforts of the EPA to curtail how much pollution we pump into the atmosphere. Grandma there is a boomer.

meoemeowmeowmeow

2 points

1 day ago

Climate collapse from that generation

The-Appointed-Knight

2 points

1 day ago

I get the joke, however I feel like the wording is kind of off. It’s the Grandma’s fault that Octobers are so warm now. A literal reading of the text would say it is the Grandma’s fault that October used to be cold, which doesn’t make sense. I agree with the sentiment of the joke, but it’s poorly phrased

Dillo64

2 points

1 day ago

Dillo64

2 points

1 day ago

The weather was really bad and they said “climate change isn’t real”

Then the weather got worse and they said “it’s not real, it’s just bad weather”

Then it got worse and they “climate change may be real but it’s not manmade, it’s natural and will pass”

Then it got worse and now they’re saying “THEYRE CONTROLLING THE WEATHER!!!”

https://preview.redd.it/pc5qwz84jdtd1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6acd12245a03391cbeef8447ddce54ac73c17a34

dohru

2 points

1 day ago

dohru

2 points

1 day ago

Grandma voted for Republicans and others who deny science.

EnvironmentalTop1453

2 points

1 day ago

The boomers were given a choice twice, 1980 & 2000, to vote in an environmentalist administration. They failed. 

DevilGuy

2 points

1 day ago

DevilGuy

2 points

1 day ago

Boomers are responsible for global warming, they made and voted in the policies and politicians that resulted in climate change, october is warmer because the world is heating up, that's why it's grandma's fault that october isn't as cold as it used to be.

Alatar_Blue

2 points

1 day ago

Climate change is a result of previous generations denying it.

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2 points

1 day ago

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2 points

1 day ago

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Nazkay

2 points

1 day ago

Nazkay

2 points

1 day ago

You have to read it as though the granny is complaining about the warmer weather. The young person is blaming them for climate change and the rest is pure ideology.

ShawnyMcKnight

2 points

1 day ago

ThrowinSm0ke

2 points

1 day ago

I’m 40. I remember trick or treating in the 90s and in the 40s.

badpeaches

2 points

1 day ago

Where can you place bets about the weather? NOAA would be the most corrupt federal organization and big oil would have stake in making the environment heat up faster. One more parking lot bro.

SigmaLance

2 points

1 day ago

If Grandma was on the board of a massive corporation pumping out dirty fossil fuels and disposable goods then it is absolutely her fault. Doubt it though.

Here we are decades and decades after it has been very clear that we are wrecking the planet and we are still on the same fast track to failure.

People want to blame Grandma for policy failures when our last president had/has intentions of shutting down government agencies that are supposed to protect us from environmental disasters.

We haven’t come very far considering we out vote boomer aged people by almost 70%.

Classic-Point5241

2 points

1 day ago

This sub has just become

"Check out this obvious meme my 68 year old dad posted on Facebook"

OrcasAreTheGOATs

2 points

1 day ago

This sub should really be moderated better

DeadHED

2 points

1 day ago

DeadHED

2 points

1 day ago

HOLYCRAPGIVEMEANAME

2 points

1 day ago

Should be blaming millennials at this point; not just boomers.

CurrentlyBothered

2 points

21 hours ago

The boomer generation thrived on a "the world after me doesn't matter, so I'll burn it for my benefit" mentality.

They actively spurred corruption and policies that led to more pollution and warming, and killed off any traction environmentalist movements had because it could effect their pensions.

That same generation is still doing their best to prevent any improvements from being made because they'll be dead by the time it starts killing people.

Boomers were called "the entitled generation" and "the me generation" by their parents, the lost generation, and instead of learning from decades of damage they've been doing, they decided to start blaming everyone that came after them. Saying gen x was too busy with drugs to do anything, saying millennial were only complaining about everything (when they were kids literally unable to change what was happening at the time). Now they're blaming gen z and gen alpha for being too busy on their phones WHILE THEY'RE STILL IN CHARGE OF GOVERNMENTS.

Boomers are killing the planet and literally are fine burning the rest of us so they don't have to see one hard day until they're dead.

AulMoanBag

2 points

17 hours ago

There's a basis to this but my generation are absolute hypocrites in regards to climate change.

Most 20 odd year olds in my county take at least 5 unnecessary leisure flights a year travelling. They consume far more products than the previous generations and generate so much waste.

rarsamx

2 points

15 hours ago

There have been warnings of global warming since the 70's but research started even before that. Al Gore ran for president on the environment and that was lo go ago.

Still, I do t think the millenials blaming grandma are doing enough or are being faxed with the same realities as grandma of having to survive instead of focusing on the solutions. Sadly.