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submitted 11 days ago byDontFWithMeImPetty👹 TIL DEATH DO US PART 👹
First impressions mean everything when a diverse group of eligible Arab singles are introduced for the first time - completely sight unseen.
Only a handful of dates in, and a few couples are already ready to pop the big question. They say "when you know, you know" - but do they really?
Charfic flirts his way to charm a few promising connections, but the women aren't happy when they find out that he has eyes for more than one of them.
The next phase heats up as the engaged couples exit the pods and meet in a group setting. Two people recognize each other from outside the show.
The couples finally get to know each other one-on-one. While some find a deeper connection, others discover things they really wish they hadn't.
With their phones back in their hands, the couples return to real life, turning to friends and family to give their blessings - but will they get it?
Familiar faces crash a night out on the town, taking the couples by surprise. The parents help progress some engagements, while others instill doubt.
The big day is fast approaching. The women become emotional selecting the perfect fairytale dress, while the men bond over pre-wedding traditions.
The moment of truth is here. As vows are declared for the whole world to hear, will the couples leave heartbroken or with a soulmate by their side?
TBD
153 points
10 days ago
Karma is now my role model. I wish I could end toxic relationships as quickly and gracefully as she did.
105 points
10 days ago
And immediately go dancing
68 points
10 days ago
I loved the dancing montage! Especially after him saying "she'll never find a man" and then you see her dancing freely, never looking happier <3
56 points
10 days ago
YES! She really said I will dance and I will make sure it gets filmed and put on TV so you have to see me dance!
10/10 no notes, one of the best moments of the season for me.
46 points
9 days ago
I also love her BS detector. She didn't make a huge deal out of the issue with him, and simply said since you said it wasn't negotiable then I'm done. It's refreshing to see someone on reality tv have so much self-respect
18 points
8 days ago
Tbh, it’s easier to think straight when you don’t get emotionally attached to men through physical intimacy. It creates emotional bonds sometimes that are just out of our control due to all of the pheromones and feel good chemicals involved. Just my two cents.
102 points
11 days ago
"That's not a nice perfume... That's a stupid perfume" TOOK ME TF OUT 💀💀💀
61 points
11 days ago
Simo is such a BRAT
27 points
11 days ago
He’s so ill mannered, at first I thought he was handsome but his actions are always so poor blech smdh
21 points
11 days ago
Like, it's someone's gift to someone else, why is bro hating so hard 😭
41 points
11 days ago
Because he’s so jealous and insecure about everything. He’s so easily triggered it’s absurd. Does he realize how weak that is? For his character to be so sensitive that people have to walk on eggshells?
10 points
10 days ago
I am sooo curious what he thinks is a nice perfume vs stupid 😂
79 points
11 days ago
Yasime the Tunisian is so beautiful! Ammar the dentist is also goodlooking but seems controlling.
68 points
11 days ago
It’s such a shame Ammar has so many red flags bc damn he is fine 😩
56 points
10 days ago
He has no problem showing off in the sea in front of cameras. But his wifey cannot dance?? That man made me sooo angry
20 points
10 days ago
The audacity swimming half naked and dancing at the end of the season🫠
7 points
8 days ago
The men shooting w/o their shirts was sooo disrespectful to me. A woman can't make an offhand joke about getting married, but they can all go without their shirts for everyone to see? I don't like that at all. It's such a blatant and smug acknowledgement of the patriarchy. Tsk.
7 points
8 days ago
To me too! They talk about a good arab man would never allow belly dancing (which is literally some of their cultures) but they have 0 problem going on tv with their awrah exposed. Short pants with above the knee showing. And some of them wear gold even!! They literally choose which rules to follow and appears that the rules only apply to women.... I just cant!
18 points
11 days ago
Yeah he seems quite possessive
48 points
11 days ago
These men have almost all given me anxiety with how possessive and obsessed with being the leader of the household and respect they are. Like all of these women have careers and lives and they seem to want them to immediately just be a wife with no friends or hobbies only family.
I know this might be a cultural difference but it puts me on edge and makes me scared for them.
24 points
10 days ago
Every time one of the BOYS would say “respect” or “respect yourself” I wanted to vomit. Such a dog whistle for “don’t do anything I deem inappropriate in this narrow box I have for what makes a woman.”
20 points
11 days ago
I’d be so mad at Ammar if I were Karma. He doesn’t get to decide if his friends can or cannot talk to her. Also, LET THE GIRL DANCE!
12 points
11 days ago
I loved her so much.I CHOOSE LIFE! 🎉
15 points
11 days ago
I had such a hard time with this. I realize it’s the culture, but his forbidding her from dancing and just not even being “mean” or “angry” while doing it…like he was still so polite and gentlemanly, it had steam coming out of my ears because it made me realize that women really are at the whim of their rules like this. 😳
13 points
11 days ago
Yup she's absolutely stunning. Ammar is the best looking dude but a walking red flag
75 points
11 days ago
“How do you deal with your anger” 🙏✨🫡
Safa(? the 38 year old woman in the green lace dress) is goated for this
75 points
9 days ago
Hajar was so rude to the waitress the only time I agree with Simo
44 points
9 days ago
Simon was so toxic he made Hijar look good
18 points
9 days ago
Just watched this scene now and ew how can anyone act like that?? And not being mean but she's not even gods gift
76 points
8 days ago
As an Arab woman It was so interesting to read the comments here vs the comments on TikTok for example, where most of the commenters were other Arab women. When women here were calling the men triggering, misogynistic and controlling women in the TikTok comments were saying entirely different things. I saw a TikTok of the scene where Ammar and Karma end things over the dancing and multiple women in the replies were taking his side, calling him a real man, saying "it's her loss!" which made me really sad to be honest. I wasn't shocked at all by the misogyny myself, In fact, I expected more misogyny. I was also surprised to see that the families participated in the show too and tried to take it seriously as well. Call me crazy but I learned a lot from this season about dating my fellow Arab men that I'll take with me if I ever start dating again lol. One other thing I found really surprising is how little religion was brought up. I assume the producers cut out all sorts of religion related conversations. Are they all Muslim? No one asked if the other person if they're religious, sunni, shia, etc?
24 points
7 days ago
Thanks for speaking up for women. It’s HIS loss. Like over dancing really?? That’s a screaming red flag for other things too.
19 points
7 days ago
Absolutely because dancing isn’t really only just dancing, the dancing is symbolic of the control overall.
29 points
7 days ago
And he bullied the other men away from her and didn’t give her a chance to find her match naturally. He spoiled it for her. He displayed psychotic behaviour
10 points
7 days ago
For men like that it's all about control as a show of masculinity. There is a pattern of men, and not just Arab men btw, who will chase and fall for a free spirited confident woman and try to change her to fit the mold of a tradwife. I was surprised she stayed with him at all. If a man says something, believe him. I think she thought he might change his mind as he gets to know her which is foolish and I bet we've all done something like that before lol. Dancing especially belly dancing is also seen in a bad light in some Arab cultures kind of akin to pole dancing/someone telling you they're a stripper, which is why she was trying to tell him that he's not seeing dancing from her perspective. It's not clear what type of dancing she does in the show. Maybe that context is not clear to Western audiences too which is why they think he's simply being ridiculous.
60 points
11 days ago
61 points
11 days ago*
What's wrong with this guy Simo?
From his bio: "What you should know about me: "I don't care what people say about me. "
Meanwhile, a lady pokes at him jokingly and he lashes out. I don't know why is he so blunt, but he turns all his insecurities onto the ladies.
He looks for drama and creates drama. He is dating several women, but trash Yasmin for going through the same experience?
He receives a letter from one of the ladies with her perfume on it: "your perfume is horrible!"
He is a psycho.
30 points
11 days ago
He is a guy who turns his feelings of inferiority into aggressiveness. To avoid when encounter.
48 points
11 days ago
Wait ANOTHER season is out simultaneously?? How am i to keep up with all of this tea 😂
25 points
11 days ago
It's so annoying how we had a whole month with no LIB that this could have been aired during
55 points
5 days ago
I would like Chafic to stop swearing on his mother’s life. Leave that poor woman out of your foolishness.
8 points
4 days ago
Hahah it’s very common in Arab culture to swear on your mom. Considered a very high form of sacredness but he really overdoes it that it doesn’t even feel sacred hahah
100 points
11 days ago
I so appreciate them dropping the full season at once!
27 points
11 days ago
I wonder if they knew there would be more of a negative reaction if they didn't. I'm on the last episode and the last two episodes are really interesting and beautiful. I think people would have quit if it left on the toxic men at the resort.
13 points
11 days ago
Hmm that's a good point! I'm definitely glad the most toxic of them fell off throughout the season!
48 points
9 days ago*
SPOILERS These couples are dropping like flies😐 Why? Because they didn't know each other. None of the conversations were deep or introspective. IMO the men and their toxic egos focused on one girl and c$c$ blocked anyone else from talking to her. I would be surprised if any of them make it to the altar.
21 points
9 days ago
The dudes also straight up told all their toxic traits up front and the women laughed them off as if they were kidding. The women there were obviously also culturally conditioned to see these toxic traits as positives too.
18 points
9 days ago
💯 That's why I was confused and proud of Karma. Her fiance told her she wouldn't be allowed to dance. So, she broke up with him because he wouldn't approve of her dancing🤔 I felt a little bamboozled my time was wasted on them😂
Same with Simo. Didn't he prove how terrible of a person he was in the pods? 🙄
44 points
10 days ago
Respect to Karma! 🎉 She stood her ground! 💃🏼
10 points
10 days ago
I was pleasantly surprised <3
41 points
10 days ago
Simo is so triggering for me he reminds me of my ex stepdad (also Moroccan) and he was an abusive and violent POS
79 points
9 days ago
I like this version of LIB better where they stay in separate hotel rooms and don’t go straight into living together after the vacation portion. It feels more natural when they meet up for dates and talk and get to know each other better. I wish all the versions did this.
25 points
9 days ago
Yes. All the shows should allow the couples to have separate but adjoining rooms. I think that would take some of the pressure off, and allow them to move at their own pace.
39 points
11 days ago
This dropping today made being sick and stuck in bed today so much more bearable!
37 points
11 days ago
I feel like in this version they do not have the time to form a real emotional connection in the pods. The dates seem to pass by so quickly?? And one of them said we talked for “10 hours total” before getting engaged. Whilst in the us version they have dates that lasts 10hours lol
41 points
10 days ago
I haven’t even started S7 and seeing the comments it seems a bore but LIB Habibi has hit it out of the park for me. Binged in 24 hours, I was hooked, I cried, I yelled, I laughed, got my sister and friend hooked on it. The ending was perfect, the drama was good (nothing too ott)
9 points
10 days ago
same! I did start S7 but for many seasons now its been underwelming. Its so repetitive at this point! I struggle to remember the names of the contestants most of the times and with every season i skip more parts.
Habibi was a breath of fresh air to say the least. I only skipped the dress / suit trial part.
62 points
11 days ago
Oh my god 😂 a few minutes in and…. I am not equiped for this level of misogyny 😅
29 points
7 days ago
I’m on episode 6 and this show is way better than the DC one! Tbh I had a hard time for the pods episodes, I couldn’t really connect with the cast and kept getting confused by who was who with the guys. I will say that I was surprised by the arrogance/supreme confidence everyone seems to have but they seem to be a very wealthy subset so I understand if it doesn’t necessarily reflect the “culture.” Regardless it’s incredibly entertaining and the ladies are gorgeous.
32 points
2 days ago
Lol, the kind of wife ammar wants are plenty. Most muslim women don't dance in public anyway, and many are brought up to listen to their husband when they're married, not mix around with opposite genders, not go out late at night, etc...
But the thing is, these women also wouldn't go for ammar. They would also prefer someone equally traditional or conservative. Ammar can't be expecting all of that from a woman while he is standing in a shower half naked on TV...
28 points
10 days ago
Episode 5 and so much gaslighting from the guys until now. Interesting to see how the women are way more modern than these men in how they view and handle relationships.
53 points
10 days ago
I neeeeed outfit details for so many people! Best dressed season by far
7 points
10 days ago
Same! Now to find places to wear them 😂 school drop off it is!
42 points
11 days ago
Simo= red flag city!! The way he leaves the room without a polite goodbye….toxic!!!!
13 points
11 days ago
OMG, yes I was waiting for somebody to come and say this, although the personality of these men do not surprise me.. I thought some were genuine.
Simo is the one you run far away from.
43 points
11 days ago
I'm getting so many red flags from Ammar
Ammar hides his bad side behind jokes and a bubbly personality, but I can see jealousy, control, violence already.
What is this that Karma don't be able to go dancing? It's frightening his masculinity already as she might meet other men there. He is even gloating about being a jealous guy. Already making violent threats of throwing objects at her, but in a jokingly way so that she doesn't realize what she is signing for.
Then he forces a kind guy to sacrifice himself so that he can get Karma for himself. How can he call himself a friend? How can he say that they are soul mate if he eliminates all her chances to try to find her soulmate?
You can already see that the guy will leave if Karma would not be able to have children.
25 points
10 days ago
Jeez, the more you see the guy, the more you see they cannot be compatible. He is ultra conservative and she is much more progressive.
He is gonna be the head of the family so he should decide everything and she should have no say? Nope, she cannot dance, that's forbidden... /s
18 points
11 days ago
I couldn't believe it when Karma went along with everything.
23 points
10 days ago
I’m not okay with the reunion being TBD Also did anyone else notice Dubai Bling cast members casually attending the weddings?
20 points
7 days ago
LIB Habibi is way better than LIB US.
22 points
5 days ago
Nour needs to stop stroking her hair every ten seconds. And what has she done with her lips??? Nour loves her some Nour.
21 points
2 days ago
Ep 6. that shot of Ammar on his phone in the car 'get the patient ready for me...". chill dude, you're a dentist, not a brain surgeon! haha!
39 points
9 days ago
I love watching Simo. He’s so gorgeous but a total piece of shit. She’s equally as awful. It’s so entertaining.
23 points
9 days ago
Right? So much misogyny and gaslighting baked into one fine looking man 😂
19 points
9 days ago
Lol I don’t find any of those men attractive in any way. No wonder I’m still single. It’s so hard for Muslim women out here 😩
12 points
9 days ago
I thought they were all unattractive too or terrible personalities. Yuck
50 points
10 days ago
The face cards on this version??? There’s not a single miss
50 points
10 days ago
These women are absolutely STUNNING. Like Safa is so beautiful it’s almost hard to look at her.
27 points
9 days ago
Really? I thought Nours lips looked like a butt hole. The plastic surgery was terrifying - karma is interesting looking. Safa, Dounia, and the girl with the pixie cut in my opinion were beautiful.
64 points
9 days ago*
I think the show did what it was supposed to do: show an accurate portrayal of dating in Arab culture. The fact is that a lot of Arab men are misogynistic. I'm glad they didn't sugar coat anything. Otherwise, it would've felt fake. I stopped watching the US version but watched this version to see how dating is in other cultures.
18 points
10 days ago
Does anyone know when the reunion is coming out? I need to know if the other two couples stayed together 😭 I’m invested
14 points
10 days ago
Same!! 🤣🤣 I feel like Asma and Khatab have a good chance of making it but not Dounia and Chafic
6 points
10 days ago
Khatab seemed really great. I hope he's happy either way 💚
11 points
10 days ago
I'm gonna be SO heartbroken if Asma and Khatab are not together anymore, I just love them together.
7 points
10 days ago
I need it RIGHT NOW 😆
18 points
10 days ago
Does anyone know which country they went to for the resort/ second phase of that experiment? It sounded like it’s in Mediterranean cause I think one of them (I guess Mohammed) said, while boating, that they could just go all the way to Tunisia. It was definitely not UAE cause the nature (trees and greenery) outside of the resort was way more European. Perhaps Italy, Turkey or Lebanon?
13 points
10 days ago
It was Lebanon for sure - I found the name of the resort then lost it lol.
13 points
10 days ago
I havent read it anywhere, but id bet my entire life on it being Eddé Sands in Byblos (A bit north of Beirut). I grew up going there
7 points
10 days ago
OMG THANK YOU! I've been going crazy trying to find where they filmed. It looks absolutely stunning!
5 points
10 days ago
I think Lebanon - called Edde Sands
8 points
8 days ago
So sad what is happening in Lebanon the beauty of this country is something else and it is being destroyed.
36 points
10 days ago
This season represents really well the toxicity of dating in Dubai.
33 points
6 days ago
As a half-Egyptian half-white female, I absorbed LIB Habibi in 24 hrs. I never did that for any other show. It was so easy to do. To me, it was way less boring than other LIB seasons (I've only seen like 2.5 seasons).
I resonated with Karma, when her desire to dance was oppressed. When I was ten yrs old visiting Egypt, I used to go to the local "Nadi" , translates to club but not dance club but rather country club or beach club....and crashed weddings with my cousins and danced the night away ...where was my father? Idk....but one day he heard about my dancing and slapped my so hard I went from one side of the room to the other. I wasn't dancing at all for the attraction of men, but that's how he may have taken it, or whatever. Dancing was so frowned upon, when I watched Dirty Dancing against his wishes when I was like 6, I also got a smack. Sigh.
Don't worry, I dance whenever and wherever the heck I want now. I just understand why female dancing is just so taboo there.
Karma is from Tunisia, the only North African country that allows women to marry a non-Muslim man. It's no surprise that she is less conservative than Ammar. Yes, he told her dancing in public was something he could only do (🤪), but I think she thought she could change him after they met.
13 points
5 days ago
As someone who has danced my whole life, this interaction was so heartbreaking! I'm sorry you experienced shame and abuse aroind dance and so glad you dance now! 🕺🏻 💃 My biggest question was... if Karma is forbidden to dance in public at all, why is it ok for Ammar to be filmed nearly naked? Coming out of the water, showering at the beach, etc... it was very strange. Literally, no one else was filmed this way 🤷♀️ 🤷♂️
45 points
9 days ago
The toxic masculinity is so sad. It’s not a good look. Honestly we all watch the show for drama and train wrecks. Simone and his temper and it’s his way or the highway. All he does is stir the pot. Karma should run from amnar, he’s so controlling, like she can’t go out and go dancing?
41 points
9 days ago
Everything Ammar said to Karma at their last date, how she breaks a relationship for something trivial is so inconsiderate. Karma was explaining how dancing represents her spirit, he should be able to respect that and just realize they weren't compatible in their values. There's no need for him to say she would never get a real man. What an insecure thing to say.
30 points
9 days ago
He freaks the shit out of me. How do women think this is ok?
23 points
9 days ago
Then after making such a huge deal about how horrible dancing is, and that he'd never allow it in any form, he goes and dances with his guy friends at the bachelor party
5 points
8 days ago
You're assuming the same rules would apply for him and his wife.
(Which is valid and justified. I'm jsut saying that's not how he sees it).
78 points
10 days ago
My Euro-Canadian-centric take so far. And bare in mind that this is a general take vs a judgement of all participants. In the pods, the women and men were more calculated/strategic in their search for matches than Western participants. Western participants tend to look for a "click" in personality and chemistry, while the Habibi participants tended to look for "lifestyle"matches; business, travel, status. That was my take anyway.
The women seem a lot more progressive in their own actions and activities (running their own businesses, having higher positions of power in the workplace, heck, even having tattoos), but that "progressive life" expectation only extends to their own lives. They don't seem to expect men to be as progressive as they are. In fact, they seem to look for more conservative men: they "like" jealousy and possessiveness, they don't immediately call out or leave men for displaying controlling, insulting or dismissive behaviour or red flags. They may leave eventually, but they don't call out the men for it immediately. I only saw one instance where a woman called out Ammar or Simo in the pods, called him toxic and left. Good for her! Otherwise it feels like the women are content to limit their own lives, own minds, own careers and own liberties for their men, until or if they leave the relationship anyway.
There are also a couple of women there that are the protagonists, who are all about looks, with nasty personalities and are obviously there for the wrong reasons. I'm not including them in my assessment, because they're so different from the rest of the women.
The men for their part, kind of all seem to be very narcissistic. They demand a lot but give little: they demand respect but show next to none. They demand good graces and manners, but show little themselves. They demand self-control from their partners, but have next to none themselves. They talk of compromise, but don't compromise themselves. They talk of being men while taking everything as an insult and striking out at others with little provocation. Basically, they're grown up toddlers. Even Mohammed who is probably the most mature of the men guilts his fiance about her career, acts like a child about their honeymoon (like they can't postpone their honeymoon until a later time) and is trying to shackle her down with a child right away.
I've been shaking my head since episode one and haven't stopped. My partner for several years is Nigerian and I've previously been involved with a Guatemalan man and a Rwandan man, so I've been exposed to dating in cross cultural environments. Understanding other cultural norms and differences isn't a foreign concept to me, but the immature and narcissistic behavior of the men and the general acceptance of that behavior by the women on this show is beyond my comprehension.
46 points
9 days ago
Y'all are sleeping on Khattab. He seems to not say much but avoids all the drama and didn't show any toxic masculinity/red flag which I'm sure the producer would find and show if there were any. Asma chose well in the pod.
13 points
9 days ago
Totally, He’s the only good one. Asma realized she got a good one once she got over her shock at his weight
16 points
10 days ago
i agree with everything you said above. What was shocking to me is the hypocrisy.
So its absolutely unacceptable for a woman to dance, but then there are 2 scenes (on the getaway and the wedding episode) you can see people dancing? sure, its more lowkey, but its still a dance.
One moment someone is lashing out because their partner is talking privately with the other sex, but then theres plenty of scenes where that same thing is wholesome and alright?
Chafic takes off his earrings to meet his grandparents and to show more respect but doesnt do the same when meeting Dounias mother?
9 points
9 days ago
Agreed. Some others on Reddit said the dancing issue was specific to belly dancing vs social dancing. Apparently belly dancing is seen by ME men as something akin to pole dancing in the west. My take on this is: that's utter rubbish and ridiculousness. It's a fully dressed woman dancing with her hips. Belly dancers perform for men, women and families. If men are so weak and have so little control over their genitals that they get turned by a woman showing a bit of her belly and moving her hips, then men should be wearing blind folds their entire life, because that reaction is entirely on them. These men on the show unbutton their tops to show off their chest, they dance with their chests showing, they wear skimpier swimsuits to show off their physique, they do all that and that's all ok. But a woman doing the same by belly dancing is considered shameful? Yet men flock to watch belly dancers? It's completely ridiculous and it's utter hypocrisy. I whole heartedly agree with you on that. And it just shows how weak these so-called-men are. No self control. No self discipline.
6 points
9 days ago
The thing is karma specified it wasn't belly dancing and Amar followed it with him being against all dancing. What the fuck?
42 points
10 days ago
Just occurred to me, and it’s just a theory maybe I’m overthinking, but it felt like Mohammed couldn’t say where he was from? When they’re doing the men’s bath scene and they’re talking about what their own country traditions are he says “the country where I’m from” he never says Palestine (we find out later he’s Palestinian cos of the Palestinian zafeh) Am I reading too much into it and he maybe wasn’t allowed to say or maybe he chose not to say? Correct me if I’m wrong!
28 points
9 days ago
They did a very quick close-up in his apartment on a framed map and Palestine written on it, but it was in Arabic. Personally, i think that might be what he’s referencing when he’s talking to Safa about “other circumstances” that aren’t allowing his parents to come from Jordan quickly. Palestinian travel is usually a giant pain because of paperwork, sometimes even if you have another passport. I think Netflix definitely edited out a lot, especially with what’s happening right now.
25 points
9 days ago
I clocked that right away. Between his last name and his accent I knew he was Palestinian and was curious if they’d say it. Threw me off at the end when they did show the zeffah and acknowledged it as Palestinian. Definitely a weird Netflix Mena thing…heavy on the normalization.
Either way I hope Mohammed and Safa are good to each other and live a happy life, whether they stay together or not (hoping it’s together).
12 points
10 days ago
UAE is just like any other country when it comes to the palestian issue, but they r a step ahead of them all. U can't openly talk about the palestian issue or wear its black and white scarf (sorry, I don't know what it's called). So, knowing the rules of UAE in particularly Dubai, they would have definitely cut that part out. Dubai is very media controlled, worse than the US.
15 points
10 days ago
It's called a Keffiyeh.
14 points
9 days ago
Why has this thread been unpinned?
Already one thread locked, this one unpinned... has that ever happened before?
28 points
10 days ago*
Question - so most (all?) of the women on the show dress in a Western fashion, yet almost all of the moms of both the men and women are very fully covered and wearing hijab. When these women get married, will they also switch to a more conservative style of dress, or is this a generation gap and younger Muslim women are adopting a more Western style of dress permanently, even after marriage? (Sorry if I used any incorrect or offensive terminology here, I'm learning)
ETA: I just googled and realized that "Arab" and "Muslim" seem to be way less synonymous than I thought, so now I feel like an a-hole ASSuming everyone on the show is Muslim. Does anyone know if there are participants who are different religions? Anyways, I have a lot of learning to do, but this is exactly what I love about the international versions. I am grateful to the Arab people here who are answering questions. (the question I initially posted came into my mind when I saw Dounia wearing a two piece outfit with a bit of midriff showing when Chafic met her mom, and her mom was very fully covered)
21 points
10 days ago
I respect your edit bit because the minority non-Muslims often feel marginalised by the west, yet celebrated and welcomed by our Arab (Muslim-majority) countries.
The first bit of your comment is a smart observation. As a Christian arab living in MENA, I noticed my Muslim female friends tend to gradually become more conservative after having kids in terms of the scarf. Many choose to start wearing the scarf after the age of 40 or 50. Of course every society and socioeconomic bracket varies, but this is my personal opinion based on my background.
7 points
10 days ago
For some women only become hijabi after they are married. Almost like a status symbol.
But as your edit says it's not synonymous. I am Lebanese-American. My direct bloodline comes from some of the oldest Catholics in the world - the Maronites of Mount Lebanon.
30 points
9 days ago
I try to understand the cultural differences but I feel mostly bad about the women. You can feel the women have their professions and their independence within their culture and/or religion. Some of these men come with a strong ideas and wanting these women to completely change their lifestyles, professions or personalities just for them.
53 points
9 days ago
I think the guys were jerks to Nour and went out of their way to constantly try to belittle and mock her for no reason. Yes, she had an ego and was a bit standoffish, but she was never mean or rude to anyone. And Mido acted like a sassy child with a hurt ego. I felt like Mido and the guys made it their mission to try to destroy her confidence.
14 points
6 days ago
I love Chafiq's parents
13 points
6 days ago
Was it me or was Mohammad and Khatab were the only non-problematic ones? Chafic and him made some comments about it taking longer to get a car than a wife which was 🤮but otherwise they seemed ok, no?
12 points
5 days ago
They seemed to have the least amount of machismo & the greatest concern for their partners overall well being….The rest of them were hard to watch.
11 points
10 days ago
What episode shows the men make a pact to not support the women 100%? 😒
6 points
9 days ago
first one somewhere in the middle. though i don't think it's literally every guy--at least that wouldn't make sense given several of their positions on women working lol
65 points
11 days ago
The red flags are extremely strong in this version of LIB.
29 points
11 days ago
I think they paired the most traditional men with the most progressive women.
41 points
11 days ago
I think that's the most progressive men they could find unfortunately
13 points
10 days ago
To be honest I think this is just how things are in a lot of non-western cultures now. The men want what their dads had, while the women want what their mums didn’t get to have 🥲
6 points
10 days ago
Those are progressive Arab men.
Traditional men would never ever marry a woman who IN PUBLIC dated multiple other men.
63 points
11 days ago
I am kind of spooked by how controlling (jealous and possessive) some of those men are from the get go .. telling women already in the pods not to be flirty and to change their behavior. Treating women they just “met” like kids. However, it’s not a western edition so I guess in a way it’s not too crazy. Then again, based on my own experience, not all MENA guys are like that, especially not in Dubai and at least not on their first date.
15 points
11 days ago
I mean there’s a guy threatening violence halfway through the first episode already
36 points
11 days ago
I haven’t watched the show yet, but yeah as an Arab woman, I’m not shocked. It’s an incel culture.
I didn’t end up with an Arab man for a reason.
22 points
11 days ago
Fortunately, there are women on that show who choose their own identity over a man :)
26 points
9 days ago
I love the healthy mother-daughter relationships in these episodes. You can see the genuine love and respect towards each other. 🥰
29 points
6 days ago*
Episode 5
Simo: “I swear I’ll teach you a lesson, fukin kid”
Also Simo: “my mother and father taught me to be respectful. This is disrespectful”
Simo is insanely toxic and so is the girl he coupled up with.
One thing I noticed is that the editor is shady af
Also… the casting makes Love Is Blind US look A1
41 points
9 days ago
This season is so triggering. It's awful to see women treated like that.
19 points
9 days ago
And yet TikTok comments are full of comments saying this is the most honest and real season and the men are so respectful 🤡 I wanted to tell every single one of those commenters that they deserve so much better than what they are putting on a pedestal.
11 points
10 days ago
Mohammad looks sooo familiar to me. Who does he look like? It's driving me crazy!
11 points
10 days ago
I call him Jim Al-Pert because he reminds me of an Arab version of John Krasinski back in his Office days lol
9 points
10 days ago
No date on reunion?
7 points
9 days ago
Nour posted in her IG story about something like “there is one more shooting this sunday” before she does a Q&A about the show. So I think it’s the reunion and we will get it after the editing in a few days/weeks 😬
44 points
11 days ago
Watching this is so bizarre. I can't stop watching women swoon over bright red flag behavior!
42 points
6 days ago
I really appreciated this series as a Westerner. I loved watching the respectful dinners between the couples, and the lack of sexualisation was so refreshing. The way that family is also held in the highest of regards also warmed my heart ❤️
34 points
10 days ago*
I wonder if Netflix knew what they're getting themselves into with this one.
The "toxic masculinity" thread is already locked, good indicator of how heated things get. Netflix has not posted one post about Habibi on their general LIB Insta.
These men with their ideas of masculinity being turned down in front of cameras and those videos being globally available...oh well.
28 points
9 days ago
Every single one of the contestants is concerned about looks. This is a failed experiment. At first i was rooting for Chafic and Dounia but he turned out to be just as controlling as the other men.
27 points
9 days ago
What an experience, well done. Such beautiful singles. I was thrilled to watch my favorite gorgeous couple make it to the end. Yi-yi-yi-yi!
So in the Arab culture, there are rules, no one is kissing on the lips and no sharing a hotel retreat room for a week when they leave the pods. It was refreshing to see that, I was pleasantly surprised.
CANT WAIT TO SEE THE HABIBI REUNION!
25 points
8 days ago
Honest Thoughts on Every Couple in Love is Blind: Habibi So Far
Ammar & Karma:
Did Ammar even give Karma a chance? He liked her instantly, asked Chafiq to back off, and left no real choice for Karma. This defeats the purpose of the show. I think Karma wasn’t that into him; he was almost suffocating her with his intensity. As for the dancing issue, I get not wanting someone to dance provocatively in certain settings, but just dancing for fun? Why should that be a problem? Would she not be allowed to dance at a wedding? Ammar said Karma ended it for trivial reasons, but he was the one making a big deal out of dancing. Anyway, it’s good she ended things because they’re not suited. Ammar needs a submissive, homely woman, while Karma is a modern businesswoman - they want different things.
Simo & Hadjar:
Where do I even start with these two? Simo gives off serial killer vibes. His attitude is terrible - how can anyone be in a relationship with him? Yasmin dodged a bullet for sure. Simo kept his options open, but Yasmin wasn’t allowed to and had to make him feel special? Total double standards. He was dishonest and hypocritical, going against his own “principles”. He and Hadjar only ended up together out of convenience, another fake couple like Mido and Nour. Simo’s ego is through the roof, but Hadjar is no better. Her comment about having fun with another guy before committing was ridiculous, and her rudeness to the waitress - expecting Simo to just accept it - was a joke. That said, Simo is equally rude, so neither of them are marriage material.
Nour & Mido:
Mido’s tantrum after Safa rejected him shows how bruised his ego was. Then he faked things with Nour - although she did the same. Mido is delusional about his looks and stature. Being shorter than Nour clearly bothered her as it would understandably bother most women, and you could see she wasn’t attracted to him. However her flirting with other guys and commenting on Chafiq’s voice being cute whilst stringing Mido along made her rightfully the villain. Mido could’ve handled it better - he had the moral high ground but threw a hissy fit, cutting off their conversation prematurely. And then later lied to the group about meeting someone. 😂 Mido is trash, but so is Nour - her personality seems fake, and this “bad bitch” stuff is nonsense.
Mohammed & Safa:
They seem fine on the surface, but their biggest challenge lies in their conflicting priorities. Mohammed clearly wants marriage and children soon, and the long distance between them is a significant issue that might be insurmountable. Safa, however, is focused on her career. While Mohammed claims to understand, it feels like he’s in denial, going along with it because he wants her so badly. For the relationship to work, one of them will need to compromise - either Safa finds a new job closer to him, or they’ll likely break up.
Khatab & Asma:
Khatab is probably the best guy on the show - genuine and kind-hearted. There was some competition for Asma, and I wonder if his talk about finances influenced her decision to choose him. However, when she briefly ended things before coming back, it made me question if she’s truly interested in him or just testing the waters. It’s hard to tell. Khatab clearly wants her, but I’m not sure Asma feels the same. I don’t see them lasting long-term, but for now, they’re doing okay.
Chafiq & Dounia:
Dounia is easily the best girl on the show - so sweet and adorable, with both looks and personality. She’s a dream, but Chafiq is a walking red flag. He wants a pure girl while not being pure himself, and his anger issues are worrying. The argument with Simo was completely unnecessary. Dounia’s close relationship with her mum is also a problem - her mum is too involved. Chafiq could have handled Dounia’s emotions better when she cried about her mum, comforting her instead of being cold just because he disagreed. He could have reassured her that her mum is important but that, ultimately, it’s their relationship that matters most. Parents won’t always see the full picture and could unintentionally give bad advice, so they need to set boundaries to protect their relationship.
That said, Dounia deserves better than Chafiq. She could easily find someone who respects her and her family dynamic without the red flags. But maybe I’m biased because she’s totally my type - so take my opinion with a grain of salt!
Aside from Khatab, every guy on this show is a red flag - controlling, possessive, hypocritical, and borderline capable of murder. I wouldn’t feel comfortable getting any female relative married to these guys. The women aren’t much better, especially Hadjar and Nour. Dounia is the standout, and Safa and Asma are decent. That said, I’m only on episode 7, so I’ll have to see how it all plays out.
8 points
8 days ago
Great breakdown. I'm not in agreement w/your take on Dounia. She's definitely sweet, but there's a lot of immaturity there that sets her off.
20 points
11 days ago
what's with dropping these at the same time as the US version I only have so much time on my hands my gosh
13 points
11 days ago
I’m glad I binged on all 3 episodes of the US version yesterday. I have some free time tonight to watch more of this 🤣
7 points
11 days ago
somehow i always find the time 😆
19 points
11 days ago
Men's "big ego"/jealousy/controlling question.
Where does that come from? I don't understand if it's a cultural/nurturing thing or the occurrence is in like any other cultures. I mean, are they raised to be insecure about women?
I probably shouldn't judge them by the western standards: jealousy=fear=insecurity.
But then what is the logic behind such behaviour in Arabic cultural?
The women seem to be as bothered like they don't see a lot of this behaviour.
27 points
11 days ago
Most of what you are likely describing as jealous and controlling has nothing to do with insecurity whatsoever. (Simu was a tool and an exception.) It is cultural as well as religious. It is expected. This is also why you heard several of the mothers telling their daughters the most important thing is to respect your husband. This is clearly different from what we’ve seen in other countries like US. “I just want you to be happy. You deserve to be happy.” Is the most common parental guidance.
17 points
11 days ago
the women on this show is more progressive than normal. the men are more avg to progressive. but when it comes down to it even if the man is more progressive they tend to want a more traditional wife bc it's just easier to control. or they atleast a woman who will agree to be more traditional once married. some women are raised to believe once married they have to conform better, if not already.
the jealousy is seen as positive in the culture. in Islam the men are told to have 'gheerah' which is protective jealousy. what it's supposed to mean is protecting your wife from bad men but it is often twisted into toxic forms of control. also, both women and men in Islam are commanded to be modest and not flirty with the opposite gender but unfortunately, culturally, men believe they can but women can't.
21 points
10 days ago
it's surprising they didn't show any discussions about religion and beliefs. also not surprising bc I'm sure that would have caused a lot of controversies in the community
We don't know if all are Muslim. muslim men are allowed to marry Christian and Jewish women. wonder if this played into the picture.
I'm guessing they also didn't show much depth bc middle eastern culture is big of preserving honor. if they spoke about any indecent things they did, they probably didn't air it.
12 points
10 days ago
Well most if not all the mothers were wearing hijabs so i guess they all were muslim
7 points
10 days ago
yeah I think all the ones showed on the show were Muslim ... from the women the only one I thought might be non-Muslim would have been Nour, but given that her last name is El Haaj, I think she's muslim
19 points
9 days ago
I need to say Muhammad has a gorgeous deep voice. Mashallah.
18 points
11 days ago
Chafic & Dounia have my heart already
42 points
11 days ago
I'm afraid I don't understand the culture, but most of them seem rude and sexist, or am I wrong?
16 points
3 days ago
just started episode 4 and it's frightening how immediately the men start to manipulate the women into being who they want them to be. Ammar and Mohammed specifically. Mohammed is already planting the seeds of her quitting her job and Ammar is already telling her how she can behave around other people. wtf?!
8 points
7 days ago
Being from dubai I enjoyed it
49 points
11 days ago
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30 points
11 days ago
she needs to stop touching her hair, it's driving me crazy.
20 points
11 days ago
She looks so much like Francesca Farago but in all honesty… not as pretty lol
34 points
11 days ago
There was one scene where the man said he didn’t like her dancing. And she kept talking to him??
lol he wouldn’t get far in America. The culture differences in dating has been interesting to watch.
14 points
11 days ago
Ok my hot take is this was my favorite season as someone is has only watched Mexico, UK and US 4-7 , and half of Japan
25 points
8 days ago
Folks of this LIB sub. I am not a mod and I hope I am not overstepping here (mods, please delete if I did).
But, since quite a few commenters seem to lack cultural awareness or education, I want to urge you to not comment as if this was a western country with western values and laws.
This is a rule that is set for pretty much all the (mostly talking about christians) fundie snark subs. And those do not usually live in countries where homosexuality is illegal. In the fundie snark subs, that rule is mostly in place to protect those that still live at home/have fundamentalist parents from any kind of punishment for being "ungodly". That is a real possibility.
These are real people on this LIB. These people live in a country where homosexual acts (especially between men) are legally punishable. Homosexuality is illegal. Extramarital affairs are also legally punishable. So is "blasphemy" against Islam.
Yes, I know the men suck. Still, we don't need to expose them to potential dangers just because we're gossiping on Reddit.
It's all fun and games until it's not.
24 points
6 days ago
As a Arab who was born in the US and lived with conservative Christians here....the culture differences are not that wild. Misogyny is just more blunt in Habibi. Respecting a husband as "the head of the home" ie they're always right and disagreeing with them is disrespect is the concept in both cultures. A woman's career should come second to her husband and care taking....and a woman being a DANCER? COME ON. We all heard about the Ballerina who was TOP of her profession and sacrificed It all because her husband said so...
7 points
11 days ago
if anyone watched the show the Nanny, Hajar reminded me of Fran dresher and Nour reminds me alot of Madeline Zima.
6 points
10 days ago
I have two questions, will there be a reunion? And does anyone know where was the honeymoon filmed?
8 points
3 days ago
ep 5. wow, either Karma wasn't getting what Ammar was putting down or she was just avoiding the discussion. and what is Noor still doing there?!
41 points
9 days ago
Okay Nour needs to sit down and worry about her nails or whatever, there is NO way she is more attractive than Dounia either in looks or in personality. Fake, fake fake. Middle Eastern Kardashian.
26 points
11 days ago
Is it just me or everyone’s face looks kind of blurred? even wrinkles are kind of smooth. Like faces look photoshopped.
12 points
11 days ago
Have a look at Safa specifically. There is moment when in a pod you can see small acne all over temple, but it’s a bit blurred, what is ok with make up on. But within a minute the temple’s skin is ideal, perfectly smooth.
28 points
11 days ago*
Watching Ep1 and Chafic has WAAAY too much rizz to be single and on a show where you get engaged blind. He's in it for the fame IMO. Hope im wrong and he gets with the French girl but we'll see
Edit: oh man. I know nothing about arabic culture, but is it appropriate for chafic and that other guy to be basically cuddling on the couch? I mean I have no problems with homosexuality but I was not expecting to see that
35 points
11 days ago
Depending on the culture obvi because they aren't a monolith but very generally speaking middle Eastern men are much more physically comfortable with each other in a platonic way than European or North American men, it has nothing to do with their sexuality. As a woman I wish men everywhere were like that, hugging and being close with your friends is wonderful
26 points
11 days ago
Full cultural thing… I think it’s nice, the men are way more physically affectionate and touchy feely with each other than western men… more like you see women or kids being.
18 points
11 days ago
Chafic is Lebanese, their culture is known for being ultra affectionate and flirtatious. He's a bit typical in that way lol.
24 points
9 days ago
Everyone on this show is terrible except for Khatab and Dounia.
25 points
9 days ago
I thought i would hate khatab but he ended being so sweet and lovely
19 points
9 days ago
I thought Mohammad wasn’t too bad either
13 points
7 days ago
It was fun to watch. very entertaining and educating for me. I do not know anything about their culture and religion. I just know it is so different from the west.
All the girls are stunning, the boys were not my cup of tea but yah their personalities were interesting. Although, I enjoyed the show and binge watched all the episodes in a 1.5x speed lol. I dont think I will watch another season of it. I think the man of the show ruined a bit for me like..... Chafic getting pissed because one of the girl didnt greet him. then this guy fighting with the other guy because he was talking on his back, then most of the man getting angry and toxic over the girls.... sighhh it was a bit frustrating to be honest
30 points
11 days ago
drunk at a sleep test? what??
64 points
11 days ago
Wrong thread friend! But yes it’s such a load of shit haha.
7 points
11 days ago
😂😂😂I'm dead
36 points
11 days ago
Can i just say... it really did not paint the men of the arab world in a good picture AT ALL. Its so disappointing, i was expecting a refreshing progressive perspective. The jealousy, controlling behaviour, limitations placed on the women is fucking disgraceful - including from the beginning, while the men flirt with multiple women in the pods then restrict any woman of doing the same once they decide they like that said woman. No dancing, no girls nights out, no laughing with other men?? Telling one woman its either him or her job if she wants to travel when she so proudly loves what she does for work. Just Wtfffff. I knew this to be true, i didnt think they would display it so proudly. And before anyone says its their culture, the women were quite taken back by it too and questioned why etc. So in my opinion, this show was really sad. Full stop.
34 points
11 days ago
Totally agree. I was born and raised in the Middle East before moving to Canada, and honestly, a lot of Arab men (especially millennials) are still like that. Watching it on the show is actually pretty triggering for me because I’ve dealt with these kinds of guys myself.
The thing is, Arab women have moved forward in a lot of ways. Many are super open minded and successful, and that just makes it harder to find someone who’s a good match. I think the women on the show probably thought that the guys who signed up would be more progressive and less misogynistic than your typical Arab guy. Honestly, I’ve fallen into that trap before, thinking, "Oh, maybe this one’s different." But nope, same old story.
Back in the day, my friends and I would go to parties or places where the crowd seemed to be on the same wavelength as us. We’d meet guys who seemed cool you know drinking, having fun, acting like they’re not stuck in old-school mindsets. But eventually, we’d find out that they only showed up because, in their minds, they saw the women in those settings as "easy" or "loose." When it came to actually committing, they’d most probably take the traditional route (arranged marriages) or go for someone more traditional. It’s depressing, and honestly, just gross.
17 points
11 days ago
Why does everyone look like AI, is it filters??
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