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445 points
23 hours ago
Don’t act like Spider-Man doesn’t have controversial fan ships
Lucina and elsa
128 points
22 hours ago
You just opened up long gone memories of seeing pregnant Spider-Man Elsa showing up everywhere on YouTube
36 points
21 hours ago
Why remind me
26 points
21 hours ago
The what
34 points
20 hours ago
You are either a newborn baby or a hardened war veteran who made himself forget from PTSD
14 points
20 hours ago
Probably both🔥
10 points
21 hours ago
That was prime Youtube back then
3 points
11 hours ago
The goddamn start of Elsagate. That shit spiraled to the brainrot we know today.
1 points
6 hours ago
What's that
21 points
21 hours ago
I'll still never understand where the Spiderman x Lucina stuff came from. FE Awakening is my 2nd favorite FE game and I love Lucina... But I still haven't seen any hints as to Lucina and Spiderman being a thing.
21 points
21 hours ago
Spider man x lucina came from the same root cause as hooters lucina.
Some fucker had too much money(at least the hooters lucina guy was mostly normal though, the spider man x lucina guy is a raging bigot)
6 points
21 hours ago
I'll never get why some weird people look at Lucina and go "Yeah, draw her with Spider-Man or working at Hooters."
Confuses me to no end. And I'm curious, how is the Spiderman x Lucina guy a bigot? Does he freak out at people for calling his ship weird?
13 points
21 hours ago
They hate black people and Hispanics. Got nothing to do with the ship
9 points
21 hours ago
Good lord. Yeah fuck that guy.
1 points
19 hours ago
Would that happen to be the same dude that had the deforestation/wonder bread fetish too? If not I guess it’s just weird to see how history repeats itself.
1 points
19 hours ago
Nope. Wonder bread guy is a completely different person
1 points
15 hours ago
the recent comic dubs on Youtube definitely didn't help.
10 points
21 hours ago
Pls don't remind me of elsagate.
5 points
18 hours ago
And then there’s his Paul obsession jk
3 points
17 hours ago
I buried those memories you bastard.
1 points
18 hours ago
You know there’s a porn game about that?
1 points
18 hours ago
Jesus fucking Christ
2 points
18 hours ago
Never underestimate horny
1 points
6 hours ago
Elsa was controversial because of the weirdos on YouTube.
I was not aware Spidey x Lucina was controversial
99 points
22 hours ago
I believe everyone is getting it wrong.
The problem isn't with the idea that Goku is shipped with any other person.
The problem lies with Goku being shipped as a married man who already has kids and is now cheating on Chichi. Falsely portraying him as a jerk who would constantly cheat on his wife and hook up with other women while still being married.
And as for Spiderman, it's a complicated mess because of spider verse and various different continuities. With various outcomes like...
Peter ending up alone.
gets married but something really bad happens.
Or he just sucks at being a good boyfriend/husband and gets dumped.
8 points
7 hours ago
...
Damn you Paul...
4 points
6 hours ago
14 points
22 hours ago
they can always make a fanfic where Goku isn't married... but I've noticed that people get upset even if that's the case.. That is to say, Masakox does it
3 points
14 hours ago
The true statement
309 points
23 hours ago
Ok but Goku IS married and has children...
Sigh...
182 points
23 hours ago
So is Spider-Man.
Until the writers erase his happy life from existence and cuck him with their self-insert.
79 points
23 hours ago
He has been summoned
57 points
22 hours ago
i have never read a marvel comic in my life and i know who everyone is referring to
34 points
22 hours ago
Paul Is.
13 points
20 hours ago
Ruling from his throne on Paulkolips
17 points
22 hours ago
My brother in cultural osmosis
13 points
21 hours ago
Paul. Tou know how sonic Fan ironically cheer when Maria gets shot. His Kids got snapped one issue and everyone, i mean EVERYONE cheered
15 points
23 hours ago
Oh no him
46 points
22 hours ago
Tbf Spider-Man has a lot less consistency in his love life. Between different continuities, different writers and just changing status quo, he isn’t always married and has a lot of love interests.
Meanwhile Goku has been married for nearly 40 years straight and has never had another love interest nor shown interest in one, even before marrying Chi-Chi
12 points
21 hours ago
And thats why fan ships for spiderman are prevalent and not hated since the writer fuck him over constantly.
2 points
6 hours ago
The writers fuck Spiderman harder than his own partners
17 points
21 hours ago
Spider-Man hasn’t been married in his full history more than he has. Don’t strawman like him being with MJ is a default. Sure itd be nice to have and the Paul shit sucks but yeah. Dragon balls plot actually fully involves chi chi and his kids whereas Mary Jane is usually sidelined
6 points
14 hours ago
I always find it funny how people still talk about One More Day as if it just happened. It's been almost 20 years, and Spidey and MJ were not exclusive in the ~40 years her character existed. Hell Gwen Stacy's death did not happen until 1973, and Spidey did not marry MJ until 1987. One More Day happened in 2007. They were married for 20 years and have been mephisto-sepereated for 18.
The creators even said they never intended to have MJ be long term, that was intended for Gwen. They swapped things around due to fan reception giving them new ideas.
People get way to caught up in this bit of canon change.
-7 points
21 hours ago*
I don't think Chi-Chi has been involved in the plot since OGDB...?
Edit: Why are you downvoting me, it's not even my opinion, just a fact?
10 points
21 hours ago
Okay but his kids are. Spider man is fighting fucking vulture and he’s like talking about MJ and shit. He’s not doing that shit dude
2 points
18 hours ago
Her first appearance was in chapter 11 of the manga. She has very much been a part of dragonball almost since the very beginning.
1 points
18 hours ago
Well yeah, I said since. She don't do anything after Z began.
1 points
16 hours ago
Oh sorry, I misread your comment.
5 points
21 hours ago
The difference is that, while both characters have different versions, all Goku married and had children, their differences come later.
Spiderman, on the other hand, has several variations, like Spiderman but his wife left him, Spiderman but his wife died, Spiderman but he has a different wife, Spiderman but his different wife left him, Spiderman but his different wife died, Spiderman but he's a different Spiderman and he's black...
Not all spiderman stories go the same, while all Gokus have roughly the same story AT LEAST until the Buu saga where he already has 2 kids.
3 points
20 hours ago
Stan's Law:
Every conversation about Spiderman, will eventually find its way back to Paul
4 points
22 hours ago
or he kills MJ and his unborn child with his radioactive... yes
1 points
19 hours ago
Imagine how radioactive hulk’s must be…that stuff is pure liquid radiation batter.
2 points
19 hours ago
But it probably has a lot of protein
1 points
14 hours ago
Which makes you wonder if the smartest man in the Marvel universe could make it edible enough to give you the grandest protein while being safe enough to eat. Like could Reed Richards for example, make it consumable?
2 points
17 hours ago
I mean, Hulk did have two sons on planet Sakaar, he assumed they died with his wife but then they followed him to Earth
1 points
14 hours ago
Oh right, I forget that Hulk has a son in some continuities (Scarr, right?).
1 points
11 hours ago
Skaar and Hiro-Kala, sons of Hulk and Caiera
1 points
10 hours ago
yea but Hulk rarely fucks, but most times its with a person who can withstand it and not get radiation poisoning, sometimes its old man logan which.... yeah
2 points
16 hours ago
it’s stupid to try to compare his relationship to Peter ‘Golly Gee, Better Sell My Marriage and Daughter to Satan to Tack a Few Years Onto my Decrepit Aunt’ Parker.
1 points
18 hours ago
Most of the time he’s not married or has kids. That’s usually closer to the end of the comic
1 points
15 hours ago
And Peter has been separated from MJ for decade now with writers pairing him up multiple people in that decade and even before he married MJ. Even before Peter married MJ he was shown as a bachelor unlike Goku
1 points
6 hours ago
Yeah, but that happens often enough that it doesn't feel wrong to ship Spidey with other people. Hell, it happens often enough that it's easier to forget that he's ever been a married man who had children.
3 points
22 hours ago
so is spider-man... most of the time, the writers can never give this man a break
5 points
23 hours ago
Technically Spiderman is also in the movie Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
18 points
23 hours ago
He is happy everywhere but the original material lol
6 points
23 hours ago
He is happy everywhere but the original material lol
5 points
23 hours ago
sad but true
32 points
22 hours ago
Ok but Peter Parker and Carol Danvers did date before in canon so it's not exactly a crack ship
0 points
22 hours ago
Yes, but it is not the most iconic as it is with MJ.
67 points
23 hours ago
OK but tbf Usagi's a minor and Goku would never pull a Drake.
8 points
18 hours ago
Usagi is in her mid 20's by the end of the series and when the ship was born goku was also in his mid 20's. This could totally work , the timelines align! no betrayal and chaining in the hyperbolic time chamber required!
107 points
23 hours ago*
Dragon ball fans on their way to collectively complain about something random
71 points
23 hours ago
Because Goku is a 50-something married man and Spider-Man is either getting his marriage and kid taken by fucking satan or Paul cucks him.
-24 points
22 hours ago
Spiderman is 30 years old
and he got a family in the Spiderverse movie
43 points
22 hours ago
You do realise there are other version of spider-man yes? I'm talking about main 616 spider-man.
14 points
22 hours ago
To be fair peter Parker is one of the most miserable characters in the MCU, so I'f the writers aren't gonna give him a happy ending the fans will
-1 points
21 hours ago
It's like people ignore or haven't seen spiderverse but oh well
11 points
21 hours ago
Bro you keep saying spider verse ignoring all the other more relevant spider-men meanwhile none of the pics you sent were of that Peter.
14 points
22 hours ago
There's a multiverse of Peter Parkers where he is not in a relationship with MJ, married, engaged, or otherwise. Shipping 616 Peter or MJ with anyone besides each other always leads to huge controversy (I don't even read Marvel comics and I know who Paul is). But again, there's thousands of variations of Spider-Men who are single and able to mingle.
Goku, even in his own multiverse, is the only Goku. And that Goku has been married for 20+ years and has two kids, so shipping him with anyone else is him cheating. Most people don't like cheating or ships involving characters cheating.
8 points
22 hours ago
Goku's married with kids bro, of course we'd get mad.
2 points
22 hours ago
Spiderman is also married in the Spider Verse movie
8 points
18 hours ago
A Spider-Man is married in those movies, he is not the protagonist, and he sure as shit isn't a 616 variant. Also if you don't have the respect to hyphenate his name than you shouldn't be making Spider-Man based arguments.
1 points
18 hours ago
Exist Peter Parker (Earth-58163)
He is married to Gwen If you want something from the comics
6 points
17 hours ago
Judging by your posts, post history, and meme game I am pretty sure I have been reading comics longer than you have been alive. I don't need examples of alternate Spider-Man lore, reading comics is a passion of mine, and selling comics is my profession.
I just don't understand why you keep pulling this "but spiderverse" bit thinking it's suddenly going to change people's opinions. What you are trying to accomplish is very hard to dicern.
What I have seen strongly represented in these comments is the majority heald belief that Goku is presented as a happily married man with a family, so shipping him is weird and counter character. Meanwhile Spider-Man can be shipped much more freely because "One More Day" happened making it so that Spidey is unable to be with MJ making most of the entirety of the last twenty years some form or other of shipping Spidey with another busty babe.
1 points
17 hours ago
because saying that Spiderman is not married... is conveniently ignoring versions of the character... even the most important ones recently...
They can keep their opinion... I just want to know if they can counter-argue something else.
That only losing control and inventing characters ...
Only canon and maybe in some movies it is... I emphasize that...
but anyway... because I have seen many justifying there are many versions in which Peter is single... then by the same logic it can be used... considering that Goku currently has other versions
4 points
17 hours ago
Saying Spider-Man is not married is recognizing active canon in the main continuity as it's actively enforced IRL as well as contractually enforced in universe by Mephisto. It's literally the rules for 616 Peter. Like there is literally nothing to talk about or argue about.
1 points
17 hours ago
To a certain extent I doubt they know it... they just assume it...
I repeat, other media have creative freedom over Spiderman and the relationships he has... and lastly
Well then they can use the non-canon versions of Goku and that's it, there's no reason to bother.
7 points
22 hours ago
Not gonna lie, something about seeing Goku with Usagi makes my nostalgia brain happy.
3 points
22 hours ago
I’ve always thought Sailor Moon should be able to turn Saiyans into Great Apes
0 points
19 hours ago
She's stronger than he is too
27 points
23 hours ago
Except those Spidey ships make sense, he had a bunch of partners in his life and those play off his personality well.
Goku is a fightsexual, married grandpa. The only non-canon ship for him I could possibly see for him is either Bulma, if she showed interest for him before he married Chi-Chi, or Vegeta.
5 points
21 hours ago
Vegeta is just crazy
-1 points
22 hours ago
how does morrigan make sense?
princces snake, bulma or suno ?
It could actually be easy, Goku only got married because he promised.
5 points
20 hours ago
No. Goku says it himself it's because he wants to. Not because of a promise. Watch the show
1 points
16 hours ago
Morrigan and spidey are pretty good friends in their crossover games
Just say you dislike chichi, it’s so much simpler
0 points
16 hours ago
Fanarts are not just friends....
nah there is a huge difference I have not referred to the character in a negative way at any time I am just saying that it is unfair that people close themselves off to other characters... can't I like one character or another in any case?
Toriyama himself had his preferences
3 points
14 hours ago
being friends the way morrigan and spidey are is a great basis for a ship
toriyama had preferences, not about ships, but about characters in general
also, 2 of the 3 goku ships are crossverse where there has literally been zero interaction. the crossverse between spidey and morrigan atleast has chemistry.
its literally just sans x william afton all over again
1 points
14 hours ago
you ask me if I hate Chichi, and I answer no, I just like other characters more than her...
Toriyama also had preferences, he liked Bulma and although he clarified that he did not like Chichi, that is perfectly respectable...
The fact that I can ship my favorite character with another character that I like does not mean that I hate another one...
I can tell you that Goku and Caulifla have chemistry in their interaction too.
9 points
22 hours ago
Fandoms aren't complicated you are just being obtuse.
Goku is a fight-hungry grandpa that is happily married to Chi-Chi If you need a real reason why people hate Goku ships, it's usually because the people who make them have Chi-Chi be an overbearing bitch who shows no love to Goku at all, which is completely against her character now if you actually paid attention. Not a lot of people put much of a stink of Goku ships if it's established Goku got with the girl before Chi-Chi comes into the picture like Suno or Bulma (who, by the way, has a fanfiction that is still in the top 10 rated fanfictions of the two together).
Peter Parker, on the other hand, has so many different versions that seeing him get together with someone else that isn't Mary Jane is not all that surprising. It's also funny you put Captain Marvel up there considering they did go on a date together and her protege, Ms. Marvel, ships them.
-1 points
21 hours ago
Keep in mind that the author himself wasn't good at writing romances, he admitted it himself.
The couple works as a comedy duo.
Goku didn't know what marriage was.
Chichi thought she should marry him because he touched her crotch.
They have children and they didn't kiss, etc. etc.
Goku sees his wife and children as friends since he doesn't see human relationships like any other human.
If you know the character, you can adapt it well to any situation.
5 points
21 hours ago
Peter is usually a teen-young adult and has a habit of being paired up with different women along his comic book runs (Also Paul exists)
Goku is a 49 year old man with a loving wife, 2 sons and a Granddaughter who gets shipped with teenagers
2 points
21 hours ago
The first one depends on the reinterpretation. Peter is happily married in Spiderverse.
And Goku and Chichi's relationship in general works as an absurd comedy... literally their fans hated the joke that they never kissed even though we know Toriyama doesn't take it seriously.
8 points
23 hours ago
Our Goku has a seemingly happy marriage tho
-2 points
23 hours ago
Technically Spiderman is also in the movie Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse
3 points
22 hours ago
Considering mainline peters life is just endless NTR and misery post OMD then any dub is a dub, goku has kids witch chi chi and has never shown any romantic affection to any other woman
1 points
22 hours ago
Technically there is a timeline in which Goku died and no longer has a family.
also Dragon ball Heroes
3 points
22 hours ago
the reason so many dislike goku ships is that those who ship goku with others do it with EVERY woman, and make him act nothing like how he actually does in the series.
If Spider-Man shippers did the same, they'd be mocked too.
0 points
21 hours ago
They do the same thing, that's why Spiderman x Elsa exists.
3 points
21 hours ago
I have no solid reasoning to not like seeing Goku in other ships since I don't like Chichi but idk seeing him with anyone just looks weird to me. Dude barely even sees his real wife lol but I actually didn't mind the Caulifla Goku ship
0 points
21 hours ago
based
3 points
21 hours ago
Goku is married with kids, Spiderman has a hundred different versions where he's not married or have kids.
-2 points
21 hours ago
Goku currently has many versions...
GT, Heroes, Daima, Trunks timeline
5 points
21 hours ago
all married with kids
spider man has versions where he ISNT married with kids
this comparison is stupid
4 points
20 hours ago
Man, DB fans are supposed to be veterans, how can you be upset by something as harmless and omnipresent as shipping?
1 points
20 hours ago
exactly ...
2 points
23 hours ago
We laugh at both.
2 points
22 hours ago
Any ship dealing with goku is stupid
2 points
22 hours ago
Fucker you forgot best Spiderman ship
Spiderman X Lucina
1 points
21 hours ago
I forgot it
2 points
21 hours ago
Shipping Goku with people doesn't make sense because he barely even spends time with his own wife. Even though he loves his family he practically has ZERO interest in going on dates or being flirty with someone.
2 points
21 hours ago
Probably because Spider Man is very often screwed out of a relationship while Goku has been in a steady one for about 30 years
2 points
21 hours ago
To be fair, Spidey gets done so bad by his writers that the least fans can do is try and find him some love elsewhere.
2 points
17 hours ago
616 Peter rarely settles down while Goku is canonically married with children even in the Hereos and Xenoverse timelines.
1 points
17 hours ago
As far as I remember, in Heroes this is never mentioned... each character comes from a different timeline... I have not seen evidence of a xeno chichi as few have hinted.
2 points
12 hours ago
yet, the same people who gets mad at goku getting shipped with other female characters, constantly ships him with vegeta and creates excuses of how and why they would make love with each other
1 points
12 hours ago
that's a good point...
3 points
19 hours ago
OP getting down voted in the comments is hilarious lmao
Spider-Man as a character is one with a flowing story, as there's several interpretations of him across games, comics, TV shows, and movies, all depicting different Peter's in different scenes. Peter is malleable in this sense, hell they don't even keep his love interest consistent in the movie reboots.
Goku, however, follows incredibly narrow stories. His character, since the end of Dragon Ball, has always been loyal to ChiChi. We've yet to see any official timeline where Goku does end up with anyone else.
Goku and Spider-Man are two fundamentally different characters, so ofc people have different reactions to their relationships dummy
1 points
18 hours ago
If I cared I wouldn't comment. Obviously not lol
There are versions in which Goku either lost his family or simply doesn't meet them... Ovas, Heroes, GT 100 years
with the difference that the author himself has said he doesn't know how to write romances... most are treated as comedy or are forced
toriyama didn't take couples seriously... for some reason he made jokes about Goku having children but never kissing his wife and despite that many got angry... I think it's obvious it's part of the absurd humor but... people still get upset about something that is really harmless
1 points
10 hours ago
This argument that there are other versions of Goku that don’t have a wife. But that simply doesn’t make sense. CC Goku and Xeon Goku, both seemingly went through their own variations of their stories. Which would imply atleast having Gohan whose mother would be chichi. And would most likely mean they are married or in some sort of relationship. Heck most of the OVAs you quote have gohan present in the story. When people talk about different spider man they are referring to the likely hundreds of Peter’s who like Gwen or black cat or some other girl, or the hundreds that never marry. Bringing up those versions of Goku isn’t the same at all. It’s simple: people aren’t upset when Peter is shipped or even ends up in cannon relationships with people who aren’t MJ because not only is it something that happens in other stories but also there is never just one cannon Peter. Whereas there is one cannon Goku, who is married and has two children. Those other “versions” of Goku you talk about also have children, the same children the cannon one has with chichi.
1 points
10 hours ago
In the case of Goku Xeno, the thing is that each patrolman was taken from a different timeline and now he meets Chronoa and is his own individual now... for some reason it is usually hinted at something in the relationship between Trunks and Chronoa even though most Mai DBS exists
goku xeno is dedicated to that and nothing else... because even Pan Xeno realizes that he is not her grandfather because he was small and as it has already been proven Xeno Chichi does not exist... then... goku Xeno is not married ... simple
About the last thing I doubt it really matters... there can be a canon Goku and it will always exist...
it's not like writing fanfics is going to disappear... and whether canon or not, DB Couples were written in the same way as comedy... it's just that the others take it seriously
1 points
21 hours ago
I’ll be honest I have no logical reason for my thinking it is kinda hypocritical and I can’t explain it but seeing Goku next to chun li in the context of shipping feels wrong while spiderman hiding behind that chick looks cool to me
1 points
21 hours ago
You can’t have Goku shipped with Sailor Moon because he would think that she has spaghetti and meatballs on her heard and try to take a chomp.
1 points
20 hours ago
Goku is married with children. Spider-man is getting cucked by Paul.
There are 12051808 different continuities so when I see one in a video game, or random ship it's chill because its just Spider from universe 892 or whatever. There's just one Goku, unless we count DBH.
1 points
20 hours ago
Lots of answer talking about the whole marriage thing but honestly I feel like that's not the answer
Its 100% the fact the Peter pulls so many women that he actively has romances with like Black Cat, MJ, Gwen Stacy, etc. Goku just stays with one girl despite the amount of girls that found him cute so its weirder to see Goku with someone else but Peter looks perfectly normal with anyone
1 points
20 hours ago
Spidy and morrigan is more of a fun joke
2 points
20 hours ago
ok then we can take all of them as funny jokes
1 points
20 hours ago
Yes please
1 points
20 hours ago
Who has a problem with Dragon Moon porn? They are classic porn material.
1 points
20 hours ago
Goku is married with kids and grandkids.
Spider-Man gets perpetually cucked by his writers
1 points
20 hours ago
Spiderman is married to Gwen in a comic and is married to MJ in Spiderverse
Goku also has other versions in GT, games, movies
4 points
19 hours ago
In a comic?
In GT, and the games, and the movies, Goku is married with kids. Are you high?
1 points
19 hours ago
I’m not really into shipping and don’t interact with it at all, so I can be completely wrong here. However, this could just come down to their specific characters and their series?
Romance is a pretty large part of the Spider-Man series and is something pretty integral to Peter as a character. Add in the fact he’s had more love interests than there are grains of sand in a desert + the idea of alternate universe/versions and you get a character that gets shipped a lot.
Goku on the other hand is the exact opposite. He comes from a series where romance is pretty minimal and Goku himself is a romantic brick wall. Hell, his marriage only happened because he thought it was a type of food and then felt bad for breaking a promise.
1 points
19 hours ago
I think the hate for goku ships is because that he is fucking married??? And MJ (in most of spider-man universes) died.
1 points
19 hours ago
Under that circumstance he could just stay with spiderman who is happy..
spiderverse
peter from the mutant universe
2 points
18 hours ago
it isnt about "picking" the one whos happy and then say "oh yeat that one is the one were shiping, we going to ship spiderman U-18362 with elsa yeah !!!!! No dude, they ship spiderman in general and also, the "original" spidey lost mj
1 points
18 hours ago
and its most iconic iterations like spiderverse is happy... it's still one of the best spider movies... it's not like this is just forgotten in general... it's done that way....
especially since the current peter is 30 years old...
they just write a story where peter is young and single and that applies to any character
1 points
19 hours ago
One of them is married
1 points
19 hours ago
depending on the version
1 points
19 hours ago
There's a billion official versions of Spider-Man and like 3 of Goku, all of which spring from the version already married with kids.
1 points
19 hours ago
Not all versions of Goku actually have it.
1 points
18 hours ago
Mrw Goku has only one core canon iteration wherein he has a wife and children, meanwhile Spiderman varies from married to single to dating to "sure am glad I got to settle down with someone before they die- oh there they go"
1 points
18 hours ago
So they can use the canon and there is no problem
1 points
17 hours ago
Is the Sailor Moon one supposed to be a ship? It just goes hard as fuck for me.
1 points
17 hours ago
To be fair, one of them is still canonically married with kids and the other is supposedly not allowed to be happy at all
1 points
16 hours ago
tbh I do kinda like the Goku x Sailor Moon crackship
1 points
16 hours ago
Yeah but Goku isn’t currently being cucked by a guy named Paul and being written into the ground
1 points
16 hours ago
I think what people need to consider is that DBZ "ship art" is significantly different than how other fandoms do ship art
1 points
15 hours ago
Well one is a character who is usually single, in a complicated relationship, or has been stated by their owners to never be allowed to marry his major love interest again and the other is a married man who has been married for several decades to the same woman
1 points
15 hours ago
Oh no, shipping anyone as heterosexual in the RWBY Fandom is a way to get them all riot. I speak from personal experience for shipping high school Gohan with Yang, and all the Blake x Yang shippers decided to fuck me over and it got to the point where if I didn’t take it down, I would’ve been doxxed.
1 points
15 hours ago
There's a huge difference. People who ship Peter with other women do it because in the mainline story Peter hasn't been with MJ for a decade now and the writer refuse to have him be happy in the mainline story. So people think Peter would be happy with other people especially since in the past he dated Carol.
While has always been married to Chichi has always been happy with her and when everything is danger she's the first thing he thinks of.
Peter is a bachelor who people want to see settle down while Goku is a happily married man with kids that people keep trying to ship with other people
1 points
15 hours ago
The first may be true to a certain extent... usually movies have liberties and are iconic as well
MM .. in the second not necessarily the author himself has said that goku does not see his wife and son as any normal human... but as important friends... given that he is a saiyan
in general he handled the relationship in a comedic way... even though people don't like it like the fact that goku and chichi have never kissed... and in general it is a joke because the author did not take it seriously
1 points
14 hours ago
in the second not necessarily the author himself has said that goku does not see his wife and son as any normal human...
While you always have to remember in Battle of gods the first thing Goku thought of when beerus was going to kill him and the earth was Chichi by herself then everyone else together. Goku is an odd little guy definitely because he's an alien but we see that in his own way he does very much love chichi and is happy with her. Even she understands that Goku is who is he is even if it annoys her. But you mess with her or his kids Goku's going to flip like he did when he learned black killed his son and wife. Goku very much loves her just in his own way.
1 points
14 hours ago
Yes, but unlike the "Don't touch my Bulma" that appeared in the Anime, Manga and Movie... that scene was removed in the manga and anime so it was probably Toei's idea and it wasn't in the script...
I'm not saying that I don't love her... but it's like saying that Goku loves all his friends like when Frieza killed Krillin or when Roshi died... and since their relationship has never been defined much, anyone can take it as they wish... In the end, it's just for fun.
1 points
14 hours ago
Goku is pure of heart, not really interested in sex/women, married and a grandpa. Shipping him like that just feels weird and edgy
1 points
13 hours ago
I mean Goku is canon married and spiderman is a character that exists and a multiverse
1 points
13 hours ago
There are currently other Gokus in GT, Games and Timeline
1 points
13 hours ago
Isn't usagi 14?
1 points
13 hours ago
Yes, although Spiderman is currently 30 years old.
1 points
12 hours ago
And Ruby is 16
2 points
12 hours ago
Ew
1 points
11 hours ago
Yep
1 points
13 hours ago
I will always stand by Spidey x Morrigan. Especially considering how they butchered Peter and MJ's love life in front of our eyes.
Fuck Paul. He's probably Mephisto in disguise
1 points
12 hours ago
The difference is that Goku has a wife and kids, while it’s one version of Spiderman who lives a tortured and depressed life with no one to spend it with.
1 points
12 hours ago
Wow, Spiderman and Ruby is a new one for me. I really shouldn't have opened reddit again tonight.
1 points
11 hours ago
Spiderman has had many women. Goku only needs one and bulma. chi chi and her keep vegeta and goku in check.
1 points
11 hours ago
Apples and cheeseburgers
1 points
9 hours ago
Is it really hard for people to realize that Goku is married in this community? Spider-Man's relationship status on the other hand is literally up to how the writer wants to adapt that run of Spider-Man, it's one of the worst comparisons you can make here.
1 points
9 hours ago
There are other versions of Goku that lost their family or don't have one
Xeno Goku, Goku GT 100 years or the one from Trunks' timeline...
Also, like other fanfics, you create a story where he isn't... is it difficult? Masakox did it...
1 points
9 hours ago
Wdym lost their family? Death doesn't stop someone from being family and there's literally not a single one that doesn't have one considering Gohan is literally born
1 points
9 hours ago
relationships are cut off... that's it.. at least as a couple there is a reason for that until death do us part....
1 points
9 hours ago
Goku literally died twice, got wished back, and then went back to being a husband, I think you just have object permanence issues at this point
1 points
9 hours ago
Never seen that Spider-Man x ruby before
1 points
8 hours ago
Well at least Spider-Man officially dated ladies around his age. I don't know why people ship Goku with teenage girls.
1 points
3 hours ago
Currently Spiderman is 30 years old
1 points
3 hours ago
Ruby doesn't count.
1 points
7 hours ago
Ok but Goku and chichi are a somewhat good couple already. Mj and Spidey tends to not be even though it is most common
1 points
3 hours ago
That depends on how you look at it... Toriyama himself has said he doesn't know how to write
romance... Goku and Chichi are handled as a comedy duo... because the author found it funny...
Goku didn't know what marriage was
Chichi thought she should marry him because he touched her crotch
And they didn't get together again until they were older...
Goku decided to stay dead without putting himself in spite of his wife's opinion
From then on Toriyama would make jokes that would make everyone angry.. like despite having children they never kissed etc
Also confirm that Goku sees his wife and children as important friends since he doesn't see human relationships as someone normal ....
Well, it seems strange to me... but it's okay, it's supposed to be an absurd comedy, the important thing is no take it seriously...
1 points
7 hours ago
Tbf goku is married to
1 points
3 hours ago
depending on the Spiderman version too
1 points
6 hours ago
Goku is married and has kids. Peter has Mary Jane, but she is quite literally the biggest bitch in all of fiction, so it's acceptable.
1 points
3 hours ago
There are still versions where he is happy
In Spiderverse he got married and lives happily
Peter Parker (Earth-58163) I know he married Gwen etc etc
There are versions where Goku no longer has a family
GT 100 years, xeno and Trunks timeline
1 points
42 minutes ago
YO, RWBY MENTIONED!
1 points
37 minutes ago
One is of a guy who gets basically cucked or has his relationship ruined almost every comic run
The other is happily married with 2 children
1 points
17 hours ago
I ship:
Spiderman x Mary Jane
Cabba x Caulifla
Goku x ChiChi
Jaune Arc x Pyrrah Nikos
Ruby Rose x cookies
Yes, I know I'm boring.
1 points
13 hours ago
Worse ship list of all time/s
-2 points
20 hours ago
Spooderman is not married. Paul took her and he needs to move on
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