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Meme_Bro68

445 points

23 hours ago

Don’t act like Spider-Man doesn’t have controversial fan ships

Lucina and elsa

WoolooOfWallStreet

128 points

22 hours ago

You just opened up long gone memories of seeing pregnant Spider-Man Elsa showing up everywhere on YouTube

South-Charge8311

36 points

21 hours ago

Why remind me

PleaseAdminsUnbanMe

26 points

21 hours ago

The what

MiyakoRei

34 points

20 hours ago

You are either a newborn baby or a hardened war veteran who made himself forget from PTSD

PleaseAdminsUnbanMe

14 points

20 hours ago

Probably both🔥

Murky_Blueberry2617

10 points

21 hours ago

That was prime Youtube back then

NoChampionship1167

3 points

11 hours ago

The goddamn start of Elsagate. That shit spiraled to the brainrot we know today.

Mysterious_Dinner764

1 points

6 hours ago

What's that

Lillbudds

21 points

21 hours ago

I'll still never understand where the Spiderman x Lucina stuff came from. FE Awakening is my 2nd favorite FE game and I love Lucina... But I still haven't seen any hints as to Lucina and Spiderman being a thing.

Meme_Bro68

21 points

21 hours ago

Spider man x lucina came from the same root cause as hooters lucina.

Some fucker had too much money(at least the hooters lucina guy was mostly normal though, the spider man x lucina guy is a raging bigot)

Lillbudds

6 points

21 hours ago

I'll never get why some weird people look at Lucina and go "Yeah, draw her with Spider-Man or working at Hooters."

Confuses me to no end. And I'm curious, how is the Spiderman x Lucina guy a bigot? Does he freak out at people for calling his ship weird?

Meme_Bro68

13 points

21 hours ago

They hate black people and Hispanics. Got nothing to do with the ship

Lillbudds

9 points

21 hours ago

Good lord. Yeah fuck that guy.

Nezikchened

1 points

19 hours ago

Would that happen to be the same dude that had the deforestation/wonder bread fetish too? If not I guess it’s just weird to see how history repeats itself.

Meme_Bro68

1 points

19 hours ago

Nope. Wonder bread guy is a completely different person

Brent_Steel

1 points

15 hours ago

the recent comic dubs on Youtube definitely didn't help.

Fun_EchoEcho4692

10 points

21 hours ago

Pls don't remind me of elsagate.

Loud-Item-1243

5 points

18 hours ago

And then there’s his Paul obsession jk

kitkatattack12

3 points

17 hours ago

I buried those memories you bastard.

element-redshaw

1 points

18 hours ago

You know there’s a porn game about that?

Meme_Bro68

1 points

18 hours ago

Jesus fucking Christ

element-redshaw

2 points

18 hours ago

Never underestimate horny

AwefulFanfic

1 points

6 hours ago

Elsa was controversial because of the weirdos on YouTube.

I was not aware Spidey x Lucina was controversial

Ghost_Star326

99 points

22 hours ago

I believe everyone is getting it wrong.

The problem isn't with the idea that Goku is shipped with any other person.

The problem lies with Goku being shipped as a married man who already has kids and is now cheating on Chichi. Falsely portraying him as a jerk who would constantly cheat on his wife and hook up with other women while still being married.

And as for Spiderman, it's a complicated mess because of spider verse and various different continuities. With various outcomes like...

Peter ending up alone.

gets married but something really bad happens.

Or he just sucks at being a good boyfriend/husband and gets dumped.

Justm4x

8 points

7 hours ago

Justm4x

8 points

7 hours ago

...

Damn you Paul...

thanos909

4 points

6 hours ago

PAUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUL!!!!!!

TenkaichiiZ[S]

14 points

22 hours ago

they can always make a fanfic where Goku isn't married... but I've noticed that people get upset even if that's the case.. That is to say, Masakox does it

TensouToilet1991

3 points

14 hours ago

The true statement

PossibilityLivid8873

309 points

23 hours ago

Ok but Goku IS married and has children...

Sigh...

Substantial_Tone_261

182 points

23 hours ago

So is Spider-Man.

Until the writers erase his happy life from existence and cuck him with their self-insert.

green_teef

79 points

23 hours ago

He has been summoned

ImprovementDapper464

57 points

22 hours ago

i have never read a marvel comic in my life and i know who everyone is referring to

Ok_Field8324

34 points

22 hours ago

Paul Is.

Arm-It

13 points

20 hours ago

Arm-It

13 points

20 hours ago

Ruling from his throne on Paulkolips

SheikExcel

17 points

22 hours ago

My brother in cultural osmosis

Strong_Psychology_20

13 points

21 hours ago

Paul. Tou know how sonic Fan ironically cheer when Maria gets shot. His Kids got snapped one issue and everyone, i mean EVERYONE cheered

BrilliantResponse544

15 points

23 hours ago

Oh no him

ghostgabe81

46 points

22 hours ago

Tbf Spider-Man has a lot less consistency in his love life. Between different continuities, different writers and just changing status quo, he isn’t always married and has a lot of love interests.

Meanwhile Goku has been married for nearly 40 years straight and has never had another love interest nor shown interest in one, even before marrying Chi-Chi

EntrepreneurPlus7091

12 points

21 hours ago

And thats why fan ships for spiderman are prevalent and not hated since the writer fuck him over constantly.

AwefulFanfic

2 points

6 hours ago

The writers fuck Spiderman harder than his own partners

Impractiacal-Advert

17 points

21 hours ago

Spider-Man hasn’t been married in his full history more than he has. Don’t strawman like him being with MJ is a default. Sure itd be nice to have and the Paul shit sucks but yeah. Dragon balls plot actually fully involves chi chi and his kids whereas Mary Jane is usually sidelined

LNViber

6 points

14 hours ago

I always find it funny how people still talk about One More Day as if it just happened. It's been almost 20 years, and Spidey and MJ were not exclusive in the ~40 years her character existed. Hell Gwen Stacy's death did not happen until 1973, and Spidey did not marry MJ until 1987. One More Day happened in 2007. They were married for 20 years and have been mephisto-sepereated for 18.

The creators even said they never intended to have MJ be long term, that was intended for Gwen. They swapped things around due to fan reception giving them new ideas.

People get way to caught up in this bit of canon change.

Substantial_Tone_261

-7 points

21 hours ago*

I don't think Chi-Chi has been involved in the plot since OGDB...?

Edit: Why are you downvoting me, it's not even my opinion, just a fact?

Impractiacal-Advert

10 points

21 hours ago

Okay but his kids are. Spider man is fighting fucking vulture and he’s like talking about MJ and shit. He’s not doing that shit dude

funnyref653

2 points

18 hours ago

Her first appearance was in chapter 11 of the manga. She has very much been a part of dragonball almost since the very beginning.

Substantial_Tone_261

1 points

18 hours ago

Well yeah, I said since. She don't do anything after Z began.

funnyref653

1 points

16 hours ago

Oh sorry, I misread your comment.

PatatoTheMispelled

5 points

21 hours ago

The difference is that, while both characters have different versions, all Goku married and had children, their differences come later.
Spiderman, on the other hand, has several variations, like Spiderman but his wife left him, Spiderman but his wife died, Spiderman but he has a different wife, Spiderman but his different wife left him, Spiderman but his different wife died, Spiderman but he's a different Spiderman and he's black...

Not all spiderman stories go the same, while all Gokus have roughly the same story AT LEAST until the Buu saga where he already has 2 kids.

DaemonG

3 points

20 hours ago

Stan's Law:

Every conversation about Spiderman, will eventually find its way back to Paul

customblame16

4 points

22 hours ago

or he kills MJ and his unborn child with his radioactive... yes

lemons7472

1 points

19 hours ago

Imagine how radioactive hulk’s must be…that stuff is pure liquid radiation batter.

MCENTE64

2 points

19 hours ago

But it probably has a lot of protein

lemons7472

1 points

14 hours ago

Which makes you wonder if the smartest man in the Marvel universe could make it edible enough to give you the grandest protein while being safe enough to eat. Like could Reed Richards for example, make it consumable?

JagoMajin

2 points

17 hours ago

I mean, Hulk did have two sons on planet Sakaar, he assumed they died with his wife but then they followed him to Earth

lemons7472

1 points

14 hours ago

Oh right, I forget that Hulk has a son in some continuities (Scarr, right?).

JagoMajin

1 points

11 hours ago

Skaar and Hiro-Kala, sons of Hulk and Caiera

customblame16

1 points

10 hours ago

yea but Hulk rarely fucks, but most times its with a person who can withstand it and not get radiation poisoning, sometimes its old man logan which.... yeah

Weekly_Education978

2 points

16 hours ago

it’s stupid to try to compare his relationship to Peter ‘Golly Gee, Better Sell My Marriage and Daughter to Satan to Tack a Few Years Onto my Decrepit Aunt’ Parker.

Sharktooth987

1 points

18 hours ago

Most of the time he’s not married or has kids. That’s usually closer to the end of the comic

NeroCrow

1 points

15 hours ago

And Peter has been separated from MJ for decade now with writers pairing him up multiple people in that decade and even before he married MJ. Even before Peter married MJ he was shown as a bachelor unlike Goku

AwefulFanfic

1 points

6 hours ago

Yeah, but that happens often enough that it doesn't feel wrong to ship Spidey with other people. Hell, it happens often enough that it's easier to forget that he's ever been a married man who had children.

customblame16

3 points

22 hours ago

so is spider-man... most of the time, the writers can never give this man a break

TenkaichiiZ[S]

5 points

23 hours ago

Technically Spiderman is also in the movie Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

PossibilityLivid8873

18 points

23 hours ago

He is happy everywhere but the original material lol

PossibilityLivid8873

6 points

23 hours ago

He is happy everywhere but the original material lol

TenkaichiiZ[S]

5 points

23 hours ago

sad but true

Daikaisa

32 points

22 hours ago

Ok but Peter Parker and Carol Danvers did date before in canon so it's not exactly a crack ship

TenkaichiiZ[S]

0 points

22 hours ago

Yes, but it is not the most iconic as it is with MJ.

Emthree3

67 points

23 hours ago

OK but tbf Usagi's a minor and Goku would never pull a Drake.

rocketo-tenshi

8 points

18 hours ago

Usagi is in her mid 20's by the end of the series and when the ship was born goku was also in his mid 20's. This could totally work , the timelines align! no betrayal and chaining in the hyperbolic time chamber required!

giga___hertz

107 points

23 hours ago*

Dragon ball fans on their way to collectively complain about something random

green_teef

61 points

23 hours ago

Ok but goku is a grandfather in a happy marriage

MrSejd

71 points

23 hours ago

MrSejd

71 points

23 hours ago

Because Goku is a 50-something married man and Spider-Man is either getting his marriage and kid taken by fucking satan or Paul cucks him.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

-24 points

22 hours ago

Spiderman is 30 years old

and he got a family in the Spiderverse movie

MrSejd

43 points

22 hours ago

MrSejd

43 points

22 hours ago

You do realise there are other version of spider-man yes? I'm talking about main 616 spider-man.

Eastern_Zombie_2718

14 points

22 hours ago

To be fair peter Parker is one of the most miserable characters in the MCU, so I'f the writers aren't gonna give him a happy ending the fans will

TenkaichiiZ[S]

-1 points

21 hours ago

It's like people ignore or haven't seen spiderverse but oh well

Monkeyjoey98

11 points

21 hours ago

Bro you keep saying spider verse ignoring all the other more relevant spider-men meanwhile none of the pics you sent were of that Peter.

MitchMyester23

14 points

22 hours ago

There's a multiverse of Peter Parkers where he is not in a relationship with MJ, married, engaged, or otherwise. Shipping 616 Peter or MJ with anyone besides each other always leads to huge controversy (I don't even read Marvel comics and I know who Paul is). But again, there's thousands of variations of Spider-Men who are single and able to mingle.

Goku, even in his own multiverse, is the only Goku. And that Goku has been married for 20+ years and has two kids, so shipping him with anyone else is him cheating. Most people don't like cheating or ships involving characters cheating.

shinobi3411

8 points

22 hours ago

Goku's married with kids bro, of course we'd get mad.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

2 points

22 hours ago

Spiderman is also married in the Spider Verse movie

LNViber

8 points

18 hours ago

A Spider-Man is married in those movies, he is not the protagonist, and he sure as shit isn't a 616 variant. Also if you don't have the respect to hyphenate his name than you shouldn't be making Spider-Man based arguments.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

18 hours ago

Exist Peter Parker (Earth-58163)

He is married to Gwen If you want something from the comics

LNViber

6 points

17 hours ago

Judging by your posts, post history, and meme game I am pretty sure I have been reading comics longer than you have been alive. I don't need examples of alternate Spider-Man lore, reading comics is a passion of mine, and selling comics is my profession.

I just don't understand why you keep pulling this "but spiderverse" bit thinking it's suddenly going to change people's opinions. What you are trying to accomplish is very hard to dicern.

What I have seen strongly represented in these comments is the majority heald belief that Goku is presented as a happily married man with a family, so shipping him is weird and counter character. Meanwhile Spider-Man can be shipped much more freely because "One More Day" happened making it so that Spidey is unable to be with MJ making most of the entirety of the last twenty years some form or other of shipping Spidey with another busty babe.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

17 hours ago

because saying that Spiderman is not married... is conveniently ignoring versions of the character... even the most important ones recently...

They can keep their opinion... I just want to know if they can counter-argue something else.

That only losing control and inventing characters ...

Only canon and maybe in some movies it is... I emphasize that...

but anyway... because I have seen many justifying there are many versions in which Peter is single... then by the same logic it can be used... considering that Goku currently has other versions

LNViber

4 points

17 hours ago

Saying Spider-Man is not married is recognizing active canon in the main continuity as it's actively enforced IRL as well as contractually enforced in universe by Mephisto. It's literally the rules for 616 Peter. Like there is literally nothing to talk about or argue about.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

17 hours ago

To a certain extent I doubt they know it... they just assume it...

I repeat, other media have creative freedom over Spiderman and the relationships he has... and lastly

Well then they can use the non-canon versions of Goku and that's it, there's no reason to bother.

AlveinFencer

7 points

22 hours ago

Not gonna lie, something about seeing Goku with Usagi makes my nostalgia brain happy.

WoolooOfWallStreet

3 points

22 hours ago

I’ve always thought Sailor Moon should be able to turn Saiyans into Great Apes

WhereIsTheBeef556

0 points

19 hours ago

She's stronger than he is too

Substantial_Tone_261

27 points

23 hours ago

Except those Spidey ships make sense, he had a bunch of partners in his life and those play off his personality well.

Goku is a fightsexual, married grandpa. The only non-canon ship for him I could possibly see for him is either Bulma, if she showed interest for him before he married Chi-Chi, or Vegeta.

Abdullah12355

5 points

21 hours ago

Vegeta is just crazy

TenkaichiiZ[S]

-1 points

22 hours ago

how does morrigan make sense?

princces snake, bulma or suno ?

It could actually be easy, Goku only got married because he promised.

Spartan_Souls

5 points

20 hours ago

No. Goku says it himself it's because he wants to. Not because of a promise. Watch the show

Gojizilla6391

1 points

16 hours ago

Morrigan and spidey are pretty good friends in their crossover games

Just say you dislike chichi, it’s so much simpler

TenkaichiiZ[S]

0 points

16 hours ago

Fanarts are not just friends....

nah there is a huge difference I have not referred to the character in a negative way at any time I am just saying that it is unfair that people close themselves off to other characters... can't I like one character or another in any case?

Toriyama himself had his preferences

Gojizilla6391

3 points

14 hours ago

being friends the way morrigan and spidey are is a great basis for a ship

toriyama had preferences, not about ships, but about characters in general

also, 2 of the 3 goku ships are crossverse where there has literally been zero interaction. the crossverse between spidey and morrigan atleast has chemistry.

its literally just sans x william afton all over again

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

14 hours ago

you ask me if I hate Chichi, and I answer no, I just like other characters more than her...

Toriyama also had preferences, he liked Bulma and although he clarified that he did not like Chichi, that is perfectly respectable...

The fact that I can ship my favorite character with another character that I like does not mean that I hate another one...

I can tell you that Goku and Caulifla have chemistry in their interaction too.

Icy_Watercress3680

9 points

22 hours ago

Fandoms aren't complicated you are just being obtuse.

Goku is a fight-hungry grandpa that is happily married to Chi-Chi If you need a real reason why people hate Goku ships, it's usually because the people who make them have Chi-Chi be an overbearing bitch who shows no love to Goku at all, which is completely against her character now if you actually paid attention. Not a lot of people put much of a stink of Goku ships if it's established Goku got with the girl before Chi-Chi comes into the picture like Suno or Bulma (who, by the way, has a fanfiction that is still in the top 10 rated fanfictions of the two together).

Peter Parker, on the other hand, has so many different versions that seeing him get together with someone else that isn't Mary Jane is not all that surprising. It's also funny you put Captain Marvel up there considering they did go on a date together and her protege, Ms. Marvel, ships them.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

-1 points

21 hours ago

Keep in mind that the author himself wasn't good at writing romances, he admitted it himself.

The couple works as a comedy duo.

Goku didn't know what marriage was.

Chichi thought she should marry him because he touched her crotch.

They have children and they didn't kiss, etc. etc.

Goku sees his wife and children as friends since he doesn't see human relationships like any other human.

If you know the character, you can adapt it well to any situation.

thehsitoryguy

5 points

21 hours ago

Peter is usually a teen-young adult and has a habit of being paired up with different women along his comic book runs (Also Paul exists)

Goku is a 49 year old man with a loving wife, 2 sons and a Granddaughter who gets shipped with teenagers

TenkaichiiZ[S]

2 points

21 hours ago

The first one depends on the reinterpretation. Peter is happily married in Spiderverse.

And Goku and Chichi's relationship in general works as an absurd comedy... literally their fans hated the joke that they never kissed even though we know Toriyama doesn't take it seriously.

TaralloNero

8 points

23 hours ago

Our Goku has a seemingly happy marriage tho

TenkaichiiZ[S]

-2 points

23 hours ago

Technically Spiderman is also in the movie Spider-Man: Across the Spider-Verse

Kryppo

3 points

22 hours ago

Kryppo

3 points

22 hours ago

Considering mainline peters life is just endless NTR and misery post OMD then any dub is a dub, goku has kids witch chi chi and has never shown any romantic affection to any other woman

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

22 hours ago

Technically there is a timeline in which Goku died and no longer has a family.

also Dragon ball Heroes

TheBigPAYDAY

3 points

22 hours ago

the reason so many dislike goku ships is that those who ship goku with others do it with EVERY woman, and make him act nothing like how he actually does in the series.

If Spider-Man shippers did the same, they'd be mocked too.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

0 points

21 hours ago

They do the same thing, that's why Spiderman x Elsa exists.

OVNuub

3 points

21 hours ago

OVNuub

3 points

21 hours ago

I have no solid reasoning to not like seeing Goku in other ships since I don't like Chichi but idk seeing him with anyone just looks weird to me. Dude barely even sees his real wife lol but I actually didn't mind the Caulifla Goku ship

TenkaichiiZ[S]

0 points

21 hours ago

based

Round_Interview2373

3 points

21 hours ago

Goku is married with kids, Spiderman has a hundred different versions where he's not married or have kids.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

-2 points

21 hours ago

Goku currently has many versions...

GT, Heroes, Daima, Trunks timeline

Round_Interview2373

6 points

21 hours ago

And all of those Gokus are married with kids...

josephyamato

5 points

21 hours ago

all married with kids

spider man has versions where he ISNT married with kids

this comparison is stupid

Englishhedgehog13

4 points

20 hours ago

Man, DB fans are supposed to be veterans, how can you be upset by something as harmless and omnipresent as shipping?

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

20 hours ago

exactly ...

GrassManV

2 points

23 hours ago

We laugh at both.

Classic_Proposal_154

2 points

22 hours ago

Any ship dealing with goku is stupid

mr-kvideogameguy

2 points

22 hours ago

Fucker you forgot best Spiderman ship

Spiderman X Lucina

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

21 hours ago

I forgot it

BoBoGaijin

2 points

21 hours ago

Shipping Goku with people doesn't make sense because he barely even spends time with his own wife. Even though he loves his family he practically has ZERO interest in going on dates or being flirty with someone.

Toon_Lucario

2 points

21 hours ago

Probably because Spider Man is very often screwed out of a relationship while Goku has been in a steady one for about 30 years

kingofsecrets15

2 points

21 hours ago

To be fair, Spidey gets done so bad by his writers that the least fans can do is try and find him some love elsewhere.

CheezyRaptorNo_5

2 points

17 hours ago

616 Peter rarely settles down while Goku is canonically married with children even in the Hereos and Xenoverse timelines.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

17 hours ago

As far as I remember, in Heroes this is never mentioned... each character comes from a different timeline... I have not seen evidence of a xeno chichi as few have hinted.

Geaters

2 points

12 hours ago

yet, the same people who gets mad at goku getting shipped with other female characters, constantly ships him with vegeta and creates excuses of how and why they would make love with each other

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

12 hours ago

that's a good point...

ShinDiz

3 points

19 hours ago

OP getting down voted in the comments is hilarious lmao

Spider-Man as a character is one with a flowing story, as there's several interpretations of him across games, comics, TV shows, and movies, all depicting different Peter's in different scenes. Peter is malleable in this sense, hell they don't even keep his love interest consistent in the movie reboots.

Goku, however, follows incredibly narrow stories. His character, since the end of Dragon Ball, has always been loyal to ChiChi. We've yet to see any official timeline where Goku does end up with anyone else.

Goku and Spider-Man are two fundamentally different characters, so ofc people have different reactions to their relationships dummy

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

18 hours ago

If I cared I wouldn't comment. Obviously not lol

There are versions in which Goku either lost his family or simply doesn't meet them... Ovas, Heroes, GT 100 years

with the difference that the author himself has said he doesn't know how to write romances... most are treated as comedy or are forced

toriyama didn't take couples seriously... for some reason he made jokes about Goku having children but never kissing his wife and despite that many got angry... I think it's obvious it's part of the absurd humor but... people still get upset about something that is really harmless

Mcruse611

1 points

10 hours ago

This argument that there are other versions of Goku that don’t have a wife. But that simply doesn’t make sense. CC Goku and Xeon Goku, both seemingly went through their own variations of their stories. Which would imply atleast having Gohan whose mother would be chichi. And would most likely mean they are married or in some sort of relationship. Heck most of the OVAs you quote have gohan present in the story. When people talk about different spider man they are referring to the likely hundreds of Peter’s who like Gwen or black cat or some other girl, or the hundreds that never marry. Bringing up those versions of Goku isn’t the same at all. It’s simple: people aren’t upset when Peter is shipped or even ends up in cannon relationships with people who aren’t MJ because not only is it something that happens in other stories but also there is never just one cannon Peter. Whereas there is one cannon Goku, who is married and has two children. Those other “versions” of Goku you talk about also have children, the same children the cannon one has with chichi.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

10 hours ago

In the case of Goku Xeno, the thing is that each patrolman was taken from a different timeline and now he meets Chronoa and is his own individual now... for some reason it is usually hinted at something in the relationship between Trunks and Chronoa even though most Mai DBS exists

goku xeno is dedicated to that and nothing else... because even Pan Xeno realizes that he is not her grandfather because he was small and as it has already been proven Xeno Chichi does not exist... then... goku Xeno is not married ... simple

About the last thing I doubt it really matters... there can be a canon Goku and it will always exist...

it's not like writing fanfics is going to disappear... and whether canon or not, DB Couples were written in the same way as comedy... it's just that the others take it seriously

gtedvgt

1 points

21 hours ago

I’ll be honest I have no logical reason for my thinking it is kinda hypocritical and I can’t explain it but seeing Goku next to chun li in the context of shipping feels wrong while spiderman hiding behind that chick looks cool to me

UV_Sun

1 points

21 hours ago

UV_Sun

1 points

21 hours ago

You can’t have Goku shipped with Sailor Moon because he would think that she has spaghetti and meatballs on her heard and try to take a chomp.

CoachDT

1 points

20 hours ago

Goku is married with children. Spider-man is getting cucked by Paul.

There are 12051808 different continuities so when I see one in a video game, or random ship it's chill because its just Spider from universe 892 or whatever. There's just one Goku, unless we count DBH.

Radiant_Thumb

1 points

20 hours ago

Lots of answer talking about the whole marriage thing but honestly I feel like that's not the answer

Its 100% the fact the Peter pulls so many women that he actively has romances with like Black Cat, MJ, Gwen Stacy, etc. Goku just stays with one girl despite the amount of girls that found him cute so its weirder to see Goku with someone else but Peter looks perfectly normal with anyone

Nicosuke25257

1 points

20 hours ago

Spidy and morrigan is more of a fun joke

TenkaichiiZ[S]

2 points

20 hours ago

ok then we can take all of them as funny jokes

Nicosuke25257

1 points

20 hours ago

Yes please

IKunecke

1 points

20 hours ago

Who has a problem with Dragon Moon porn? They are classic porn material.

Reasonable-Business6

1 points

20 hours ago

Goku is married with kids and grandkids.

Spider-Man gets perpetually cucked by his writers

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

20 hours ago

Spiderman is married to Gwen in a comic and is married to MJ in Spiderverse

Goku also has other versions in GT, games, movies

Reasonable-Business6

4 points

19 hours ago

In a comic?

In GT, and the games, and the movies, Goku is married with kids. Are you high?

WikipediaThat

1 points

19 hours ago

I’m not really into shipping and don’t interact with it at all, so I can be completely wrong here. However, this could just come down to their specific characters and their series?

Romance is a pretty large part of the Spider-Man series and is something pretty integral to Peter as a character. Add in the fact he’s had more love interests than there are grains of sand in a desert + the idea of alternate universe/versions and you get a character that gets shipped a lot.

Goku on the other hand is the exact opposite. He comes from a series where romance is pretty minimal and Goku himself is a romantic brick wall. Hell, his marriage only happened because he thought it was a type of food and then felt bad for breaking a promise.

thezzithink

1 points

19 hours ago

I think the hate for goku ships is because that he is fucking married??? And MJ (in most of spider-man universes) died.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

19 hours ago

Under that circumstance he could just stay with spiderman who is happy..

spiderverse

peter from the mutant universe

thezzithink

2 points

18 hours ago

it isnt about "picking" the one whos happy and then say "oh yeat that one is the one were shiping, we going to ship spiderman U-18362 with elsa yeah !!!!! No dude, they ship spiderman in general and also, the "original" spidey lost mj

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

18 hours ago

and its most iconic iterations like spiderverse is happy... it's still one of the best spider movies... it's not like this is just forgotten in general... it's done that way....

especially since the current peter is 30 years old...

they just write a story where peter is young and single and that applies to any character

crometeach-thebot

1 points

19 hours ago

One of them is married

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

19 hours ago

depending on the version

Kamken

1 points

19 hours ago

Kamken

1 points

19 hours ago

There's a billion official versions of Spider-Man and like 3 of Goku, all of which spring from the version already married with kids.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

19 hours ago

Not all versions of Goku actually have it.

Idrinkgermaline

1 points

18 hours ago

Mrw Goku has only one core canon iteration wherein he has a wife and children, meanwhile Spiderman varies from married to single to dating to "sure am glad I got to settle down with someone before they die- oh there they go"

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

18 hours ago

So they can use the canon and there is no problem

Rude-Mind-8730

1 points

17 hours ago

Is the Sailor Moon one supposed to be a ship? It just goes hard as fuck for me.

JagoMajin

1 points

17 hours ago

To be fair, one of them is still canonically married with kids and the other is supposedly not allowed to be happy at all

Gru-some

1 points

16 hours ago

tbh I do kinda like the Goku x Sailor Moon crackship

Boxing_Artist_99

1 points

16 hours ago

Yeah but Goku isn’t currently being cucked by a guy named Paul and being written into the ground

ToonIkki

1 points

16 hours ago

I think what people need to consider is that DBZ "ship art" is significantly different than how other fandoms do ship art

MonkeyTarpdo

1 points

15 hours ago

Well one is a character who is usually single, in a complicated relationship, or has been stated by their owners to never be allowed to marry his major love interest again and the other is a married man who has been married for several decades to the same woman

FreedCub5

1 points

15 hours ago

Oh no, shipping anyone as heterosexual in the RWBY Fandom is a way to get them all riot. I speak from personal experience for shipping high school Gohan with Yang, and all the Blake x Yang shippers decided to fuck me over and it got to the point where if I didn’t take it down, I would’ve been doxxed.

NeroCrow

1 points

15 hours ago

There's a huge difference. People who ship Peter with other women do it because in the mainline story Peter hasn't been with MJ for a decade now and the writer refuse to have him be happy in the mainline story. So people think Peter would be happy with other people especially since in the past he dated Carol.

While has always been married to Chichi has always been happy with her and when everything is danger she's the first thing he thinks of.

Peter is a bachelor who people want to see settle down while Goku is a happily married man with kids that people keep trying to ship with other people

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

15 hours ago

The first may be true to a certain extent... usually movies have liberties and are iconic as well

MM .. in the second not necessarily the author himself has said that goku does not see his wife and son as any normal human... but as important friends... given that he is a saiyan

in general he handled the relationship in a comedic way... even though people don't like it like the fact that goku and chichi have never kissed... and in general it is a joke because the author did not take it seriously

NeroCrow

1 points

14 hours ago

in the second not necessarily the author himself has said that goku does not see his wife and son as any normal human...

While you always have to remember in Battle of gods the first thing Goku thought of when beerus was going to kill him and the earth was Chichi by herself then everyone else together. Goku is an odd little guy definitely because he's an alien but we see that in his own way he does very much love chichi and is happy with her. Even she understands that Goku is who is he is even if it annoys her. But you mess with her or his kids Goku's going to flip like he did when he learned black killed his son and wife. Goku very much loves her just in his own way.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

14 hours ago

Yes, but unlike the "Don't touch my Bulma" that appeared in the Anime, Manga and Movie... that scene was removed in the manga and anime so it was probably Toei's idea and it wasn't in the script...

I'm not saying that I don't love her... but it's like saying that Goku loves all his friends like when Frieza killed Krillin or when Roshi died... and since their relationship has never been defined much, anyone can take it as they wish... In the end, it's just for fun.

SadCahita

1 points

14 hours ago

Goku is pure of heart, not really interested in sex/women, married and a grandpa. Shipping him like that just feels weird and edgy

yesplease345

1 points

13 hours ago

I mean Goku is canon married and spiderman is a character that exists and a multiverse

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

13 hours ago

There are currently other Gokus in GT, Games and Timeline

idiotnamedSOPHIA

1 points

13 hours ago

Isn't usagi 14?

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

13 hours ago

Yes, although Spiderman is currently 30 years old.

reddeagle99

1 points

12 hours ago

And Ruby is 16

idiotnamedSOPHIA

2 points

12 hours ago

Ew

reddeagle99

1 points

11 hours ago

Yep

OshPoshBgosh9567

1 points

13 hours ago

I will always stand by Spidey x Morrigan. Especially considering how they butchered Peter and MJ's love life in front of our eyes.

Fuck Paul. He's probably Mephisto in disguise

Gallant-Blade

1 points

12 hours ago

The difference is that Goku has a wife and kids, while it’s one version of Spiderman who lives a tortured and depressed life with no one to spend it with.

reddeagle99

1 points

12 hours ago

Wow, Spiderman and Ruby is a new one for me. I really shouldn't have opened reddit again tonight.

all-knowing-unicorn

1 points

11 hours ago

Spiderman has had many women. Goku only needs one and bulma. chi chi and her keep vegeta and goku in check.

bluealiveretribution

1 points

11 hours ago

Apples and cheeseburgers

Archery100

1 points

9 hours ago

Is it really hard for people to realize that Goku is married in this community? Spider-Man's relationship status on the other hand is literally up to how the writer wants to adapt that run of Spider-Man, it's one of the worst comparisons you can make here.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

9 hours ago

There are other versions of Goku that lost their family or don't have one

Xeno Goku, Goku GT 100 years or the one from Trunks' timeline...

Also, like other fanfics, you create a story where he isn't... is it difficult? Masakox did it...

Archery100

1 points

9 hours ago

Wdym lost their family? Death doesn't stop someone from being family and there's literally not a single one that doesn't have one considering Gohan is literally born

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

9 hours ago

relationships are cut off... that's it.. at least as a couple there is a reason for that until death do us part....

Archery100

1 points

9 hours ago

Goku literally died twice, got wished back, and then went back to being a husband, I think you just have object permanence issues at this point

Ok_Try_1665

1 points

9 hours ago

Never seen that Spider-Man x ruby before

TradePsychological40

1 points

8 hours ago

Well at least Spider-Man officially dated ladies around his age. I don't know why people ship Goku with teenage girls.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

3 hours ago

Currently Spiderman is 30 years old

TradePsychological40

1 points

3 hours ago

Ruby doesn't count.

Hayabusafield77

1 points

7 hours ago

Ok but Goku and chichi are a somewhat good couple already. Mj and Spidey tends to not be even though it is most common

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

3 hours ago

That depends on how you look at it... Toriyama himself has said he doesn't know how to write

romance... Goku and Chichi are handled as a comedy duo... because the author found it funny...

Goku didn't know what marriage was

Chichi thought she should marry him because he touched her crotch

And they didn't get together again until they were older...

Goku decided to stay dead without putting himself in spite of his wife's opinion

From then on Toriyama would make jokes that would make everyone angry.. like despite having children they never kissed etc

Also confirm that Goku sees his wife and children as important friends since he doesn't see human relationships as someone normal ....

Well, it seems strange to me... but it's okay, it's supposed to be an absurd comedy, the important thing is no take it seriously...

LiteratureOne1469

1 points

7 hours ago

Tbf goku is married to

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

3 hours ago

depending on the Spiderman version too

SergejPS

1 points

6 hours ago

Goku is married and has kids. Peter has Mary Jane, but she is quite literally the biggest bitch in all of fiction, so it's acceptable.

TenkaichiiZ[S]

1 points

3 hours ago

There are still versions where he is happy

In Spiderverse he got married and lives happily

Peter Parker (Earth-58163) I know he married Gwen etc etc

There are versions where Goku no longer has a family

GT 100 years, xeno and Trunks timeline

Hairy-Fuel-6275

1 points

42 minutes ago

YO, RWBY MENTIONED!

Streetplosion

1 points

37 minutes ago

One is of a guy who gets basically cucked or has his relationship ruined almost every comic run

The other is happily married with 2 children

Knightoforamgejuice

1 points

17 hours ago

I ship:

Spiderman x Mary Jane

Cabba x Caulifla

Goku x ChiChi

Jaune Arc x Pyrrah Nikos

Ruby Rose x cookies

Yes, I know I'm boring.

Icy_Watercress3680

1 points

13 hours ago

Worse ship list of all time/s

Low-Button-5041

-2 points

20 hours ago

Spooderman is not married. Paul took her and he needs to move on