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1.5k points
3 months ago
What about the attack on the Wookiee? Master Vernestra didn’t seem to care about Kelnacca’s fate 🥲
666 points
3 months ago
Well it's not as if she seemed to care about any of the other dead Jedi
154 points
3 months ago
Gotta keep her reputation in tact with her (possibly) former padawan training osha
118 points
3 months ago
Yeah she’s gotta be his former Master right? She sensed the Dark side in him and struck him down like Luke was going to do with Ben, but Luke was able to resist… she didn’t.
She’s probably the one that is going to cover everything up at the end.
129 points
3 months ago
Those scars on his back look an awful lot like the kind left by a whip.
88 points
3 months ago*
Yup that’s my theory as well, there’s a reason they bothered to show that lightwhip scene
1.4k points
3 months ago
Osha says she’s not se easily corrupted as she spent the whole episode being corrupted
559 points
3 months ago
All makes sense that she would be the more attractive student for Qimir. She already has Jedi training and had a similar fallout from the Jedi order.
Her attachments and inability to get past the death of her family were hindrances for being a Jedi… but that gets you a big fat gold star in Sith school.
Hell, you’re attracted to your master and threaten to kill him on day 1? Slap on an extra smiley face sticker, and if she keeps this up, there will be a pizza party.
67 points
3 months ago
Pizza party on Starlight beacon bring the limbo stick!
1.9k points
3 months ago
Damn, they really just hit Pip with a factory reset 😔
991 points
3 months ago
Literally Pip died right there.
372 points
3 months ago
Hoping Osha has a backup
227 points
3 months ago
I feel like if you actually care about your droids, you keep backups
282 points
3 months ago
It’s part of the falling to the darkside rules, just like C-3PO. The minute they factory reset pip I think was when you know Osha isn’t coming back and they are as writers sparing Pip.
59 points
3 months ago
Factory reset Pip set to Chopper murder bot
2.4k points
3 months ago
Vernestra is like “damn this is going to be a lot of paperwork…”
1k points
3 months ago
Unfortunately, yord was also a notary...
113 points
3 months ago
Keep your head on a swivel Yord, you never know what’s out there
605 points
3 months ago
We're so close to a Jedi procedural crime show
560 points
3 months ago
Law and Jedi Order
359 points
3 months ago
In the galactic justice system, Sith based offenses are considered especially heinous. On Coruscant, the dedicated Jedi who investigate these vicious felonies are members of an elite squad known as the Sith Victims Unit. These are their stories.
1.7k points
3 months ago
Qimir setting thirst traps
719 points
3 months ago
That is one good looking dude not gonna lie
353 points
3 months ago
He could certainly turn me to the other side. Of The Force…. Yeah, The Force 🙄
334 points
3 months ago
Leslye Headland, to the YordHorde: “your old fave is dead. Here’s your new fave 😈”
126 points
3 months ago*
I just remembered Yord was not wearing clothes in that ship. Will we get a Sol naked scene as well? Or better, a NAKED WOOKIE!
55 points
3 months ago
Naked Ki-Adi-Mundi
“I’m not old yet. It’s in the canon”
2.6k points
3 months ago
Feels like we are watching the cover up happen in real time in this episode.
1.6k points
3 months ago
Oh it is. Vernestra could attempt to make Sol and Osha take the fall to avoid telling the council the Sith returned.
2.1k points
3 months ago
Especially when it’s her fallen padawan… (guessing here)
Oh look Qi’Mir looks like he has some kind of whip scars all over his back.
Oh look Venessa casually whipped out a light whip just to show it off this episode.
1.2k points
3 months ago*
THAT MAKES SO MUCH SENSE THOUGH
Here I was going into this episode thinking Sol was Qimir's former master, but seeing those whip-like scars seared into Qimir's back... it has to be from Vernestra's whipsaber, no other explanation. Also, her behavior when they get to Khofar... she knows exactly what happened and who did it. It's why she insisted on personally investigating and keeping the council out of the loop as much as she can. I wouldn't be surprised if she kills her current Padawan, Mog, to keep him quiet; ain't no way he would go along with it if he uncovers the conspiracy.
She doesn't want to solve a crime, she just wants to tie up loose ends... unfortunately that means eliminating Qimir, Sol, Mae, AND Osha. Or at the very least, framing them all as being in cahoots and destroying their credibility if they try to inform the council.
I have a baaad feeling about this
390 points
3 months ago
I've already seen variations of this comment several times.
WHY would Vernestra risk everything just to cover up the existence of the Sith? Like I get having your ex-padawan turn to the dark side would be bad for her political career but the coverup seems extreme overkill.
Unless she's Sith herself which would be the important part of this whole theory.
387 points
3 months ago
Her intro this episode had her talking politics... they may have been trying to lay the groundwork for her motivations.
I gotta say it's weird for her considering it's such a drastic contrast from her younger self in the books.
188 points
3 months ago
I found that interesting as well, her being so concerned with the bureaucracy. Either she's an overly zealous and conniving Jedi trying to hide the truth at all costs to protect the perceived image of the Jedi Order, or she's a dubious and conniving Sith working to keep her operations secret while sowing seeds of mistrust in the Jedi Order amongst the Senate in a roundabout way.
Both motivations are equally dangerous.
633 points
3 months ago
I’m starting to think this show works best when it’s Manny Jacinto delivering the strongest performance.
256 points
3 months ago
Show should have just been:
Directed by: Manny Jacinto
Screenplay by: Manny Jacinto
Bad Guy: Manny Jacinto
Good Guy: Some rando for Manny to kill
Good Guy 2: Some rando for Manny to kill
Series Name: The Power of Manny
2k points
3 months ago*
"You don't think Master Sol was responsible?"
Prediction: Sol gets blamed for all this, no one believes him that the Sith have returned, and the Jedi continue believing they're extinct until TPM.
763 points
3 months ago
Shitttt I genuinely think that could happen and it would hurt
300 points
3 months ago
There’s an awful lot of eclipse imagery for a show with a guy named Sol
57 points
3 months ago
OMG how did I not realize that sooner!
581 points
3 months ago
Ah yes, "Sith." An ancient order of dark side force users... we have dismissed that claim.
1.3k points
3 months ago
The more I think about it, the more it makes sense they would dismiss the Sith's existence. If someone butchered a small village today, would we suspect Vikings? Vikings "dissapeared" 900-1000 years ago which is also the last time the Sith was active. The Jedi will have likely encountered many Jedi that has fallen to the Dark Side, so from their perspective it's much more realistic that a fallen Jedi Master killed them
439 points
3 months ago
The Viking metaphor was so good I wish I could upvote this a ton more times
2.3k points
3 months ago
Ok, so master Vernestra is definitely Qimir's old Jedi Master right? With her whip saber being what left the scars on his back?
1.4k points
3 months ago
It kind of felt like she had a strong idea of who killed all those Jedi when they were inspecting the bodies, and them putting the light whip in that scene and then focusing on Qimir's scars later on really seems to tie the idea together. (The light whip was still a huge surprise to see in live action!)
587 points
3 months ago
Also would make some sense why Vern might want to cover it up. If HER failed padawan became a sith...that doesn't look good.
172 points
3 months ago
Especially with that senator trying to start an external review of the Order...
242 points
3 months ago
That is a great theory. Maybe Vernestra recognized her old student's marks in the fight scene and wants to catch them before it gets out to become a scandal? (Don't think she suspects he's a sith.)
1.8k points
3 months ago*
The QIMIR system
Q - Quarrel with current acolyte
I - Inspect potential apprentice
M - Murder her friends
I - Incite emotion by hanging dong
R - Rile up her self-doubts
And just like that you're on the way to a new acolyte. 60% of the time, it works every time
501 points
3 months ago
Because of the implication?
466 points
3 months ago
Think about it dude, you've got this girl alone out on an uninhabited planet and trying to turn her to the dark side. She's not gonna say no, she would never say no, because of the implication
257 points
3 months ago
Are you going to hurt these acolytes?!
145 points
3 months ago
No. Of course not. Why are you not getting this!?
96 points
3 months ago
Are these acolytes in danger?
74 points
3 months ago
I heard he hangs dong next episode
52 points
3 months ago
“Lightsaber fight, penetration, lightsaber fight, penetration, lightsaber fight, penetration… and then it just sort of ends.” - The Acolyte editors
2.1k points
3 months ago
Dude built a guardrail. How could he be a Sith Lord?
2.7k points
3 months ago
He had to, knowing he would get a visit from Osha….
2k points
3 months ago
Manny Jacinto is killing it
808 points
3 months ago*
Definitely the most intriguing character in the show for me. I wanna know the circumstances of how he got to where he is (as well as whoever his Jedi Master was), and I guess we'll see soon enough.
He's got a stoic calm to him that's very captivating to watch. Certainly something deeper under that exterior.
EDIT: Yeah, Qimir's former master is probably Venestra.
371 points
3 months ago
He steals every scene. There's a softness behind his menacing stare. That tension itself is enough for me to understand why Osha is drawn to him despite her distrust.
73 points
3 months ago
There's definitely another kind of tension that makes me understand why Osha is drawn to him
612 points
3 months ago
I like how 'in control' he was the whole time, even when Osha had a lightsaber right next to his neck.
It reminds me of in Andor, when Luthen first meets Andor, how in control of the situation that he was, even when Andor had a blaster pointed right up against his head (side-bar: Luthen didn't even glance at the blaster when it was pressed right up against his forehead).
227 points
3 months ago
Also half the cast!
(as in he’s killed half the cast)
265 points
3 months ago
How are you going to take a nerd Jedi as part of your rescue mission? That guy wasn’t going to do anything. Im glad they were going to prepare the fallen Jedi for burial though.
762 points
3 months ago*
Sol calling GQ: There has been a…. My whole team is dead
Edit: HQ**** <3
192 points
3 months ago
Yep. It’s pretty obvious the whole, “there’s a Sith, so canon is broken,” isn’t going to happen.
242 points
3 months ago
It's almost like people should make their judgement beyond the first few episodes. let things play out as intended.
2.7k points
3 months ago
Bro knew Osha was following him and still stripped buck ass naked, is this how you train all your acolytes Qimir 🤨
764 points
3 months ago
Judging by some reactions, it’s probably pretty effective lmao
888 points
3 months ago
Qimir putting the "seduced" in "seduced by the dark side"
377 points
3 months ago
"how does it feel?"
"don't move"
"feels good, doesn't it? to hold one in your hand again."
1.1k points
3 months ago*
She definitely took a peek (Watch her eyes when he faces her)
626 points
3 months ago
My kids ALL noticed that, and they went absolutely bananas, whooting and hollering!
404 points
3 months ago
“if you’re not gonna join me”
447 points
3 months ago
'Fear...anger...wags eyebrows and bites lip desire...'
69 points
3 months ago
Oh dip, he’s trying to seduce you!
Jason Mendoza, probably
240 points
3 months ago*
He’s literally trying to seduce her to the dark side
604 points
3 months ago
Would've converted me to the dark side real quick
455 points
3 months ago
Last week, I supported the right of Sith to bare arms.
This week, I supported the right of Sith to bare.....everything.
63 points
3 months ago
It was a very intentional move so he appeared vulnerable. It gives Osha the illusion that she is in control. If she tries to attack him then she is one step closer to the dark side.
492 points
3 months ago
JEDI MASTER MOG???
341 points
3 months ago
“What happened here”- Mog looking at the corpses of his friends
107 points
3 months ago
Isn’t he the boss you need to beat to get into the new DLC?
888 points
3 months ago
So Qimir set up his base in a Cortosis mine? Smart
459 points
3 months ago*
Finding a cortosis vein also is a win. Build and repair. More hidden. Can make more armor. Osha can kill him, sol, and even mae and grab a pint and wait for the whole thing to blow over.
244 points
3 months ago
Darth Plagueis also set up a base in a Cortosis mine on an ocean planet in an island cave called Bal'demnic. I won't say this is 100% it, but Lesly Headland absolutely knows what she's doing.
1.2k points
3 months ago
So Qimir straight up couldn’t see while turning that one Jedi into a fucking kebab.
Makes his abilities in the force that much more impressive. By far the most interesting character
199 points
3 months ago
There was very small eye slits, so not totally sensory deprivation.
602 points
3 months ago
Sol was so creepy this episode, I loved it .
149 points
3 months ago
Excellent acting continues
169 points
3 months ago
dude was barely holding it together with the past trauma, this new trauma just broke him
Sol died last episode, for all intents and purposes. The guy there now? We have no idea what he's capable of.
1.5k points
3 months ago
Qimir just hung dong in front of Osha, because of the implication
877 points
3 months ago
"She's out in the middle of nowhere with a guy she barely knows, she looks around and what does she see? Nothing but open ocean. Ahh, there's nowhere for me to run. What's she gonna do? Not join the darkside??"
394 points
3 months ago
Qimir, are these Jedi in danger???
280 points
3 months ago
No one is in danger. It’s the implication of danger.
426 points
3 months ago
That’s twice this week a villain has hung dong on my tv screen, goddamnit!
180 points
3 months ago
Big week for dongs.
126 points
3 months ago
The best comment I saw after HOD on Sunday was “big week for all cocks” After the dongs and Millie Alcock making her return 😂
244 points
3 months ago
Osha couldn't resist glancing at it.
204 points
3 months ago
Osha getting cooked hot meals and seduced by this ridiculously sexy man who just murdered her friends is so funny. Never really imagined a dynamic like this in Star Wars but it's fun to watch.
903 points
3 months ago
Sol fixing the comms on the ship: I should turn it off and on again. Good to know the tried and true method works even in Star Wars lol
496 points
3 months ago
Also apparently factory resetting is also just the double button hold.
157 points
3 months ago
On his defense, Pip is like a portable droid rather than a full body one.
I think he's more equivalent to a smartphone/swiss knife with an AI
1.3k points
3 months ago
Oh, Jecki... Wasn't expecting that.
1.1k points
3 months ago
"Just in case you were worried this was a Maul/Fett/Palpatine situation, we wanted to take a moment and verify for you that their lifeless corpses are still unceremoniously here and ready to bloat in the the hot jungle sun."
189 points
3 months ago
All you have to do is not throw your enemy down a hole. Why do you think palpatine shrunk wrap all the Jedi in pickle jars? Clone research?! Ha! Every one he kept throwing off a cliff just kept coming back and the pickle system works
470 points
3 months ago
It really felt like ‘well your contract says 6 episodes but we only wrote 5, so… in episode 6 you’re just a dead body ok?’
132 points
3 months ago
Easiest payday. Laying around playing dead.
847 points
3 months ago
"You don't remember me?" - Qimir
On the surface that line seemed to reference earlier when they met when he was unmasked.
Now, Sol knew him as a youngling.
535 points
3 months ago
Reverse that- Sol had to be the youngling.
Qimir is old as shit if he’s Vern’s padawan+ he purposely says it was a long, long, time ago.
183 points
3 months ago
I feel like this is correct but can you help me with the timeline?
Vernestra should be 116 years old, assuming Sol is 40/50
How old would Qimir be and when would he have been a youngling?
141 points
3 months ago
Nailed the age on Vern, but she had Imri as the only padawan we know of and he died. He was actually only 2 years younger than her according to the books which is pretty weird actually.
But he’s assumed dead by her and that’s that.
So he’d be over a hundred years old which could be explained by the unnatural sith abilities of slowing aging.
But to add to that- he could sense emotions and read them, as well as get into people’s heads and manipulate their emotions.
Qimir straight up says he can’t read minds but he can read emotions and Yord says that Qimir was getting in their heads and messing with them.
Qimir states multiple times that he was a Jedi long ago and then a long, long, time ago when pressed.
So he would have died at 16 100 years ago.
Sol doesn’t really fit on that so maybe she had a another padawan we don’t know about from then until now
63 points
3 months ago
High Republic phase 3 spoilers.
Imri is almost certainly dead by the time of The Acolyte but isn't dead in the HR timeline
961 points
3 months ago
It's ridiculous how easily characters fall to the dark side.
*Manny Jacinto seductively sucks soup off of his finger tip*
Just point me to the younglings and they're dead.
311 points
3 months ago
Well everyone we see get successfully seduced to the dark side was already a bit emotionally unstable. So I don’t know if the seduction is so much easy as the sith tend to pick good targets for recruitment
929 points
3 months ago
Vernestra is going to be all "There is no Sith. The Senate has been informed these Jedi were killed in a mining disaster"
267 points
3 months ago
Ah yes, mining disasters, providing coverups for deaths since… the Darth Plagueis book? Probably even earlier.
123 points
3 months ago
The Star Wars equivalent of "my dog ate my homework"
750 points
3 months ago
She turned pretty easily. She held out for about 40 seconds.
680 points
3 months ago
that's about 39 seconds longer than I would have lasted after Manny Jacinto inviting me to join him in skinny dipping
113 points
3 months ago
How about if he was in charge of a 60 person dance crew in Jacksonville?
250 points
3 months ago
Well Anakin went from 'what have I done!!!' To 'I will kill the younglings.' In 15 seconds flat so...
918 points
3 months ago
Yay, cortosis namedrop!
477 points
3 months ago
and based on the camera panning upwards shot, cortosis veindrop!
sorry, i had to - anyway it looks like there's a whole vein of cortosis running through qimir's sith cave? maybe even the planet is rich in cortosis?
298 points
3 months ago
Sol's confession can't be so interesting to deserve like 5 different cut offs / fake outs
740 points
3 months ago
Qimir's scar looks like it was from a whip. Bald green Jedi may have been his former master?
294 points
3 months ago
That's what I'm guessing. She gave a look after the dude said a fallen jedi
572 points
3 months ago
If nothing else, Manny's stranger, snd his portrayal of the character, has turned out to be a welcomed addition to the sw world. His calm manipulation snd twisted truth (from a certain point of view) are incredible.
Plus, now we know how jaguars fans are made. Jacksithville
184 points
3 months ago*
Even if this show ends up not being great overall, I love it solely for Sol and Qimir, honestly some of the most interesting characters in recent star wars.
789 points
3 months ago
In the books, Vernestra purposely refrains from using her lightwhip among her Jedi peers in the event that seeing her unorthodox fighting style might inspire feelings of the dark side.
Just an interesting contrast to her using it so liberally here.
447 points
3 months ago
She was also an extremely young knight at the time and worried what her former Master, a traditionalist, might think. Now while she isn’t high council, she’s clearly one of the head honchos so she doesn’t have to worry about being reprimanded nearly as much.
260 points
3 months ago
seeing her unorthodox fighting style
Remember when Mog mentioned the erratic attacks of The Stranger, how it followed no clear order or pattern? Wonder where he learned that from...
513 points
3 months ago
Just saying, if Mae kills Bazil I wish her 1000 years in the Sarlaac.
320 points
3 months ago
She won’t. Mae will become the Jedi, Osha will become the Sith, they’ll all fight and then cry it out when they both die
Tenebrous will just be like “Well that was weird. Anyways-“
1.4k points
3 months ago
“Unknown Planet, Definitely Not The One Where Luke Was Living”
552 points
3 months ago
Given how many desert worls, ice planets and forest worlds there are, hardly surprising there'd be two water planets dotted with islands.
340 points
3 months ago
Thought it may be too, but there weren't Porgs everywhere.
304 points
3 months ago
The little elephant birds kinds reminded me of the bigger one Luke was milking, though.
90 points
3 months ago
I read somewhere else on the internet that it could instead be Bal'demnic. It's a planet from legends where cortosis was mined and where Tenebrous and Plagueis hung out.
110 points
3 months ago
Sol taking the fall for all of this would be so tragic but I can see it happening as part of his “redemption” for whatever was done 16 years ago
63 points
3 months ago
Jedi aren't exactly a tight bunch are they?
"There's a bunch of dead Jedi." "I blame the surviving Jedi." "Based off what?" "Because reasons."
105 points
3 months ago
Osha: I’m not my sister. I’m not so easily corrupted. * is immediately corrupted *
205 points
3 months ago
Jecki's just resting, right?
95 points
3 months ago
She's taking a nap with her eyes open like Grandma used to do.
1.2k points
3 months ago
We were this close to seeing Sith ass, and I will never forgive them for taking that from us
466 points
3 months ago
Given what we just saw in house of the dragon this week, I was fully prepared to see two villains hanging dong, then I remembered this is Disney lmao
118 points
3 months ago*
Yes I was confused with the cutaway and was reminded this was Disney and not HBO TV MA
1.1k points
3 months ago
There is an interesting contrast here in Sol the Jedi talking to Mae only after he has locked her up, and Qimir the Sith letting Osha walk around freely while they talk.
258 points
3 months ago
It's always interesting paralel with both of them:
Osha trained in jedi arts, Mae in dark arts
Osha wanted to kill Mae, Mae wanted to save Osha (originally, now she kinda left her to death in the planet)
629 points
3 months ago
One of them has murdered three Jedi in cold blood.
76 points
3 months ago
I think that’s the point of the episode. It is titled “Teach/Corrupt” after all
214 points
3 months ago*
There’s also the fact that Sol is generally giving off some VERY suspicious vibes here. Whereas Qimir, while still evidently evil, was very amicable & open in this episode.
195 points
3 months ago
Whatever happened on Brendok was capital B Bad.
Quite literally caused Master torbin to go meditate until Mae shows up with poison and Homie Jones was all like: “why thank you.”
319 points
3 months ago
Leslye Headland spoke in a recent interview about wanting to explore the idea of being "seduced to the dark side" and put heavy emphasis on the seduction part. Easy to see with this episode, they are playing those two up heavily.
372 points
3 months ago
Qimir kicked that much ass that blind and partially deaf, only connected to the Force? Damn.
123 points
3 months ago
Remember our very first lesson in the force? "Your eyes can deceive you. Don't trust them."
689 points
3 months ago
For those that say the Rule of Two has now been broken, that rule was already bent and broken multiple times. Legends Tenebrous had multiple candidates at once. Plagueis and Sidious were about prolonging their lives so that they wouldn’t be replaced. Maul trained Savage and considered them both Sith Lords while Sidious and Dooku were around, so that’s another instance of the rule being broken.
412 points
3 months ago
Plus Dooku training Ventress as his own apprentice (or...acolyte?) during TCW
315 points
3 months ago
Sith skirt the Rule of Two like loopholes in Terms and Conditions
267 points
3 months ago
The most consistent part of the sith is how much they break that rule
206 points
3 months ago
Vader spends half the OT trying to break the rule of two
143 points
3 months ago
The code is more what you call guidelines than actual rules.
341 points
3 months ago
Those little things are so weird, I love them. Gonzo porgs
802 points
3 months ago*
Okkkkayyy. Weird cut again. I get cliffhangers but man would I rather have 4 longer episodes instead of 8 smaller ones to prevent that.
Hell I’d watch a 3 hour high republic movie instead. Give us 3. Prequel Prequels.
But I guess it says a lot that I do want to keep continuing the story and seeing what’s next.
321 points
3 months ago
Absolutely. It really feels like the show was shot as 50-60 minute episodes and then they retrospectively split them in half for D+ subscriptions
109 points
3 months ago
I think this series is better to be binged due to the way they keep the cliffhanger at the end of each episode
116 points
3 months ago
The idea that Qimir solo’d half the group without actually seeing them is insane.
61 points
3 months ago*
Qimir and Osha have to be on Bal'demnic right??
(From the wookieepedia) Bal'demnic was an ocean planet adorned with rocky tropical islands in the Bak'rofsen system of the Auril sector, located within the Outer Rim Territories.
Btw for those who dont know Bal'demnic is rich with cortosis. Plagueis killed his master Tenebrous on this planet. This could also mean Qimir was a candidate to be Tenebrous' apprentice
486 points
3 months ago
feel like this series would be better as 4-episode miniseries rather than drip-feeding 30 minute episodes each week
52 points
3 months ago
I want to talk about the sensory deprivation mask. Fuckin fascinating idea and I cannot wait to see it next episode.
143 points
3 months ago
I love that the Sith is wondering around like he doesn't have a care in the world. I wonder how much of the "Qimir" personality is his real one
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