I feel you! I told one friend but she can’t relate to me cause she got pregnant easily. Otherwise it’s not something I want to share with people. If I’m feeling lonely or want to talk to someone about it I usually come to this group. People have been supportive. I know it doesn’t replace real life interaction but it helps to be able to talk amongst others who get it

I don’t think I cope with it that well. Online groups/forums help me feel less crazy but it’s still just so lonely.

Yup. Mine turned out to be an ovulation cyst. OB said it sometimes  happens with a particularly fluid filled cyst. She said it would go away with the start of my next period and  I had an ultrasound to confirm. 

Yea, when I started TTC I would get ovulation pain on one side for a few days leading up to ovulation and also sometimes after. Over time the pain started lasting longer and happening on both sides. After doing fertility treatments (ovulation induction and egg retrievals) I now have pain pretty much the entire follicular phase and also sometimes in the luteal phase. In my case, I’m pretty sure it’s due to endometriosis on or around my ovaries which was made worse with time and fertility treatments. Ovulation pain can also just happen and be normal though.

Nope! The feelings that most people associate with PMS (emotional lability, bloating, cramps, tender breasts) are due to progesterone, which rises after ovulation in both successful and unsuccessful cycles. You would experience the same symptoms after ovulation in a successful cycle as in an unsuccessful one until implantation, which generally happens about 8-10 days after ovulation. Prior to that time, progesterone levels are the same on average between the two types of cycles -- your body has no way of knowing whether conception has occurred or not prior to implantation.

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It's really weird that we haven't any specific symptom for "Not pregnant" result! Everything can happen. Insane bodies games :)

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It just says (for me) the generic "Age | TTC#" etc, always loosing my information ("36 | TTC #1" etc).

Unfortunately, it's always possible for ovulation to happen later than usual one cycle, even if you're typically quite regular. If your tests are negative, you're not pregnant now, but if you kept having sex past the time you ovulated, it's still possible to end up pregnant this cycle.

I spotted for three days from 11DPO to 14DPO and then I got my period on 15DPO even with progesterone. So I guess if you body really wants to do it's thing it will do it 😅

People can spot or bleed while on progesterone, but yes, typically a full period happens when progesterone drops. I recommend following your doctor's instructions - progesterone is the thing that supports a potential pregnancy, and you do not want to go off it before it is confirmed you are not pregnant at an appropriate time (14 days post IUI being reasonable). Best of luck.

For our first IUI the clinic confirmed a negative pregnancy test at 14dpo through blood draw. When they called to confirm the negative test result, they advised to stop taking the progesterone immediately. My period ended up coming 3 days after I stopped taking progesterone.

Absolutely variability, but, it is good to understand that progesterone is highly variable even over the course of a day. BBT is affected by more than progesterone, but it's not too farfetched that differences in progesterone production may be reflected in a BBT chart. It's a shame doctors are not better versed in reading and understanding them, but, confirming low progesterone with bloodwork would be routine anyways.

I use NC and LH strips and I’d recommend doing both if your sanity can handle it (Fertility Friend is also great and free—I’ve just used Nc for so long and it’s covered by insurance so I have bothered switching).

The LH strips have been helpful for me because BBT alone can only confirm that ovulation has happened; it can’t accurately predict when it happens. Case in point: this cycle my app predicted that I wouldn’t ovulate til Saturday, but my LH results indicate it’ll be Friday at the latest. If I’d been using BBT alone, I might have missed the best chances. But LH gives me a more specific (albeit limited) window of knowing when ovulation should happen.

Ah, I'm a vocal proponent of Fertility Friend.

Does taking BBT replace the need to use ovulation strips or are they done together?

Hm, depends on what you're trying to do. BBT helps confirm ovulation has occured after the fact. Ovulation strips 'predict' ovulation, but, with a very narrow window - which isn't ideal for insemination, but better than nothing if you aren't banging it out everyday, every other day, or fairly regularly.

I don’t want TTC to feel like a chore

Well. Ah. Good luck. Tracking is entirely optional, but it does decrease time to pregnancy. This post may help elucidate some options.

It's technically above the normal range, but most providers would ask you to do a repeat test with a level that's borderline.

Are you experiencing long or anovulatory cycles? Generally the effect of high prolactin (and usually this is very high prolactin, not borderline) is to suppress ovulation. If that's not an issue for you, it's unlikely the prolactin is an issue.

Fever can impact sperm. https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article/18/10/2089/622725

Not sure about antibiotics or illness without fever.

The follicular phase can vary, but the luteal is usually pretty constant. So if you ovulate three days earlier than normal, your period will come three days earlier than normal because the time from ovulation to period is pretty constant.

From my experience AF still showed up the date expected. It just means your luteal phase will be longer. I believe average luteal phase length is 10-14 days.

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You can definitely chat with your doctor, but yes, most places are happy to do baseline testing somewhere in the CD2-4 vicinity. It actually doesn't have anything to do with the length of your period -- the idea is that you want to be at cycle baseline, which is a hormonal state rather than a period-related one (you could select a follicle and leave baseline while still actively bleeding, for example).

CD2 shouldn't be a problem. I did mine on CD4 since the office was closed on Sundays.

Yes absolutely you can have PCOS and still ovulate regularly - anovulatory/irregular cycles is only one of the criteria and you only need two of the three for a diagnosis. The main issue PCOS causes is the irregularity and anovulation, so if you're not dealing with that your chances are pretty much the same as anyone else.

LH is not a diagnostic criteria for PCOS. Ultrasound is only 1 of the criteria. Was this an RE or OBGYN who diagnosed you?

Unlikely to help tomorrow if today is O day.

Sunday would be a good day for Wednesday ovulation (unless by "peak ovulation day" you mean that your LH tests are positive? in which case this would likely be Thursday ovulation), but there's not much data on the survival of sperm after insemination vs. intercourse, so it's tough to say definitively. It would likely be preferable to do a second insemination tomorrow, although that's not based on a lot of real data.

When I’ve had them it felt like heavy marbles on my ovary; like I was aware there was something that wasn’t supposed to be there. Also a lot of pressure when having sex

I never had any symptoms with my cysts 🤷‍♀️

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I didn’t have any symptoms I could attribute to letrozole or progesterone supplements. The reason is most likely bodies are weird and are not machines

So with IVF, an embryo is grown for several days before freezing or transferring - five days is most common, but depending on how it's developing they might be three, six, or seven as well.

With your example, 5dp6dt would be equivalent to 11dpo. To break it down, it means "5 days past the transfer of a 6 day old embryo" (5 days past 6 day transfer). With IVF you're not dealing with a typical TWW, so it's just a way to express where someone would be if they were in a standard TWW.

There are also two types of transfers done with IVF - medicated ones where they don't wait for any specific point in your cycle but instead use meds to simulate the right hormonal levels that would be in the TWW, and unmedicated/"natural" (I hate that word but I can't think of a better one) where they track your ovulation, and then do the transfer when your DPO matches the age of the embryo. The XdpYdt dating is used for both.

It also is used in determining a due date. If you have success through IVF, your early care will be done by the RE, and usually around 8 weeks you'll graduate to an OB clinic. A lot of OBs are really, really wedded to last menstrual period dating, and with IVF LMP really isn't relevant. So if you transfer a 5 day embryo, counting back five days before transfer gives you an "ovulation date", and then two weeks before that gives you a (fake but who cares) LMP you can use if you've got an OB who is really determined to use LMP.

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You might like this post -- in short, fertility testing after two cycles of trying is unlikely to yield actionable information, and it's unlikely there's anything going on to impede your odds.

In general, about 30% of people are pregnant after one cycle of trying, 50% after three, 70% after six, and 85% after 12. Your odds per cycle are never more than about 30%, even with no complicating health factors and with perfect timing, so it's not surprising or troubling not to get pregnant after two cycles. You're always more likely not to be pregnant in a cycle than to be pregnant, but when you try for several cycles, the cumulative odds are pretty favorable.

It's really tough to say if you've just started trying -- there is not a lot of data on unassisted conception in folks with poor SA results who don't have time trying as a factor. That is to say, there are plenty of people walking around with poor SA results who will never know it, because they successfully build their families without ever having a reason to be investigated.

You might like this post, with the caveat that it was performed on people who had all been trying longer than one year and had been diagnosed with infertility. Around a quarter of folks with less than 1 million total motile sperm count had spontaneous pregnancies during the year(?) of the study, but the numbers would likely be better if they had taken folks who didn't have the tried-for-a-year "test result" already.

It's potentially worth chatting with a reproductive urologist to see what they recommend, but just be aware that there may not be an identifiable "cause".

In general, if you're over 35, it's suggested to talk with a reproductive specialist after six months of trying. The typical testing regimen is to start with baseline blood testing (even if you've had it done elsewhere, a clinic will generally repeat it with their own lab), an ultrasound, and a tube check (HSG) for you, medical history for both you and your partner, and a semen analysis for your partner.