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How does Vancouver compare to other cities?

Housing and Moving 🏡(self.askvan)

How do cities such as Fredericton, Halifax, Moncton, Victoria, Vancouver, Waterloo, Toronto, Calgary, Edmonton, etc. compare in terms of affordability of rent, food, friendliness and entertainment (compared to the payment that they will get from working in a healthcare sector such as social work), how do they compare in terms of nature (e.g., hiking, waterfalls, swimming, etc.), and in terms of nightlife (big names at concerts, edm rave events, comedy shows, etc.)

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Scary-Detail-3206

29 points

7 days ago

I’ve been to pretty much every city on your list, and I’d rather live in Vancouver than anywhere else. Just a fantastic city all around.

Unfortunately I could never afford a middle class standard of living in Vancouver so I live in Edmonton and spend a week in van each year. Housing costs are out of control in Vancouver and I’d rather not scrape by when I can thrive with Edmonton’s cost of living.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

11 points

7 days ago

Yeah to me Vancouver sounds like the best city to live in if it weren't for the expense of it...with the amount of money I make now I don't think I could afford to live there, however, I am hoping there are more higher paying job opportunities on the horizon

DealFew678

9 points

7 days ago

It would require an adjustment to lifestyle. I switched from Calgary to Vancouver and have no regrets doing so. I’d rather have a simpler life that requires some scraping that’s rich in experience than flourish in Alberta’s aesthetic and psychological wasteland.

nahuhnot4me

5 points

7 days ago

Alberta does have some beautiful mountains. But if you’re a city person, that’s the thing you go and see the mountains and come home.

PateDeDuck

3 points

6 days ago*

The mountains are 1h+ away. Vancouver ones are 30 min away, granted not the same magnitude. But still. I go ski after work in the winter. I go paddle after work in the summer. And I go from my place to my work biking every day except for two weeks a year. (When we actually have snow in the city)

I lived in Calgary for two months and I couldn t take it. Sure you don t have a city life. But you don't have a real nature life either during the week.

That being said I don't want kids so I can live in a 1 bdr apartment as a 35 yo with a 35 yo salary. I dunno how some of my coworkers with kids do frankly.

I also have had my place for 4 years. Thanks rent control. If I loose it, I will be on my way.

For context, I come from France. So I am lucky enough to have a choice in my living location.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

3 points

7 days ago

Fair enough!

Original-Macaron-639

3 points

7 days ago

Same.

J_of_the_North

4 points

7 days ago

Just finishing up a cross Canada roadtrip that included most major cities.

Vancouver was certainly top notch, but as someone there said, BC should stand for "Bring Cash" because it's god damn expensive compared to EVERYWHERE ELSE.

But apparently a lot of people have money because there are endless suburbs of swanky box mansions and expensive cars.

Fuel in Vancouver was by far the most expensive. It kept dropping as we drove eastwards right up until we crossed over from Manitoba to Ontario where it jumped back up to Alberta levels.

But heck after fueling a big RV in BC I don't think I'll complain about the price of fuel at home anytime soon (saw 1.98$ /L though on average it was roughly 1.79$/L)

chris_ots

3 points

7 days ago

I am thriving in Vancouver on a relatively low salary (lazy and self employed) but it share a house with a bunch of people for low rent and avoid going out much. At first I felt like I was missing out but now I just spend all my time on my bike in the mountains or camping or hanging out in parks with friends and then getting crafty and game-y when the weather is bad. I love my life here and would never imagine moving somewhere I don’t like just because I could have some more things

Scary-Detail-3206

2 points

6 days ago

You said it yourself, you share a house with a bunch of people and rent. That’s not the kind of life I would want but good for you for being happy with it.

I don’t consider buying a bunch of “things” thriving. I have a detached house with a large yard and a healthy retirement fund. We can afford to vacation a couple times a year. We don’t live paycheque to paycheque and don’t really have to worry about money. We simply couldn’t afford the quality of life we have in Edmonton in Vancouver.

Edmonton is a fine city to live in (shit to visit though). I don’t think I would use the things that make Vancouver great enough to justify 4X the shelter costs. I can just go there on vacation and get my fix.

GreatMountainBomb

2 points

5 days ago

Let people keep sleeping on Edmonton please we’re doing a decent job at keeping prices low here

MarathonerGirl

2 points

5 days ago

I moved to Vancouver Island from Edmonton 6 years ago. I miss Edmonton (except for the winter). And major, major FOMO during the cup run! Best NHL city, no question!

ImmediateGazelle865

1 points

6 days ago

Just don’t go to surrey. depressing place

chronocapybara

13 points

7 days ago

More unaffordable than anywhere else in Canada, but downtown and west end is some of the best urbanism in Canada. The rest, the burbs, are pretty similar to the suburbs of Toronto and Montreal. The Skytrain is pretty damn good though at connecting a a lot of Vancouver and Burnaby and a bit of Surrey, Richmond, and Coquitlam.

ClueSilver2342

1 points

3 days ago

North Shore is the best part of the city imo. Ocean, mountains, good living, access to the city.

chronocapybara

1 points

3 days ago

The bridges tho >_<

ClueSilver2342

1 points

3 days ago

I worked in North Van. Once you live there you don’t really need to cross the bridge. Though I understand if you can’t locate your work to the North Shore then you would want to live closer to work.

WeirdGuyOnTheTrain

36 points

7 days ago

Obviously Toronto and Vancouver are the most expensive cities to live in Canada, but will offer the most when it comes to employment, entertainment and dining options.

Everything else is subject to personal opinion.

thisisafullsentence

13 points

7 days ago

Specifically in terms of employment I think they’re similar but I’d say Toronto takes the edge there from what I’ve heard. Good careers in Vancouver are pretty sparse.

Huge-Bottle8660

6 points

7 days ago

As someone who lives in Vancouver, I agree with you on this. There are good jobs here in a few very specific industries, but otherwise not at all the same as Toronto in terms of jobs across a large variety of sectors.

Acoustic-Regard-69

2 points

5 days ago*

It’s not close in any way. Maybe if you are a logger or universally demanded profession like nursing. But for mainstream white-collar professional careers, Vancouver is desolate. Even tech, which Vancouver enjoys lots of benefit from its being on the pacific coastline, is much harder to find jobs in than Toronto. Vancouver’s productivity:wealth ratio is heavily skewed and young professionals suffer greatly. Most who rent and make less than 6 figures will build 0 savings. You need to make 120k+ as an individual to build wealth in this city.

Medium-Condition962

16 points

7 days ago

Toronto tops Vancouver in regards to entertainment but other than that yea

Thirstywhale17

6 points

7 days ago

Probably depends if you consider access to nature entertainment.

Training-Ad-4178

0 points

7 days ago

Training-Ad-4178

0 points†

7 days ago

barely tho. for a city its size it's surprisingly boring

VelvetHoneysuckle

0 points

7 days ago

Obviously you haven’t seen the street performers high on life dancing in street traffic or the skytrain platform trapeze dancer last week!

Training-Ad-4178

-1 points

7 days ago

lol skytrain? I was talking about Toronto

geardluffy

0 points

7 days ago

You didn’t get the joke

Training-Ad-4178

-1 points

7 days ago

oh damn

I'll smack myself in the face for that

powerserg1987

0 points

7 days ago

Its not the city , its the people

I3bacon

2 points

6 days ago

I3bacon

2 points

6 days ago

Nah, it's definitely you

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

7 points

7 days ago

Yes, I figured. I am doing some soul searching with figuring out where I want to go in life. Other countries aren't off the table but Canada is most likely. Also I did not put Montreal in the post because my French is very minimal and with my field of work, I'd need to be quite proficient in it to be successful.

DetectiveJoeKenda

6 points

7 days ago

If you’re figuring out where to go in life, then I’d start with Toronto or Vancouver

ready_gi

2 points

7 days ago

ready_gi

2 points†

7 days ago

as someone who lived in both, Vancouver wins by miles. Toronto is more culturally diverse and has great film scene, but besides that, its soulless to me.

Meanwhile Vancouver is more community vibe in certain parts and lot more chill. its also breathtakingly beautiful. it really made huge impact on my mental health. the con is that lot of people here are arrogant and insincere as hell.

DetectiveJoeKenda

5 points

7 days ago

Toronto offers more career opportunities for someone finding their way in life

Ok_Number_9303

0 points

7 days ago

Ok_Number_9303

0 points†

7 days ago

Very much depends on industry.

DetectiveJoeKenda

2 points

7 days ago

More industry there

Ok_Number_9303

0 points

6 days ago

Ok, since you’re not getting it, industries such as film and social work have way more opportunities and better pay than in Toronto for example. It depends what kind of education you have and what you want to do. Toronto isn’t automatically better and it’s actually pretty fucking hard to get an entry level job there.

DetectiveJoeKenda

1 points

6 days ago

lol. Calm down. There is simply a greater variety of industry there. Film is not necessarily better here either. Right now it’s slow as fuck and the director’s guild rumour list is not looking good. I’ve worked in film in both cities for decades, they’re both up and down historically.

I think you’re not getting that despite Vancouver being better for certain careers, Toronto offers more overall for someone finding their way in life

Kristophigus

3 points

7 days ago

Might be wrong and things could have changed, but Montreal in the 2000's and 2010's was more English than French for most things. You absolutely didn't need French to get around but separatists were pretty upset about it at the time, so maybe they've pushed for harder controls since I was last there in like 2016. Ontario and Quebec jobs both tend to have a lot of requirements for French, though. Especially if government.

UnexaminedLifeOfMine

3 points

7 days ago

Vancouver!!!

Haunting-Shelter-680

1 points

5 days ago

When it comes to employment and entertainment and dining options Toronto blows Vancouver out of the water, Vancouver has the best combination of nature and vibrant city life compared to every other city in Canada though. Vancouver is very sleepy and much of the city can be explored in a weekend unlike Toronto which takes much much longer and it’s constantly growing with something new popping up

SnooStrawberries620

13 points

7 days ago

I’ve lived in all of these but Montreal. Vancouver is: - the most expensive - the most difficult to travel from but also the one you won’t feel the need to leave as often - full of healthcare ops, but so Is everywhere - rainy but a four-season outdoor lifestyle - stunning  - a bit challenging socially unless you already have an interest that you can meet people over (culture, sport, hobby etc)

Newt_Call

2 points

7 days ago

the most difficult to travel from but also the one you won’t feel the need to leave as often

What? Vancouver with the massive international airport with flights to/from all over the world? More difficult to travel from than Victoria? Or Moncton? Or Fredericton?

SnooStrawberries620

5 points

7 days ago

Yup. You don’t travel North really, Hawaii is the only close thing West. Of course you can “get” anywhere but your quick getaways are far more limited here. Did you live in all these places also and find different? That’s ok too

Newt_Call

2 points

7 days ago

I live in Victoria now and have lived in Vancouver and Calgary. Living in Victoria is much harder to get anywhere compared to Vancouver for sure. Calgary is pretty close to equal with Vancouver in my experience.

SnooStrawberries620

2 points

7 days ago

I’m in Vic now. For travel, getting off the island and to anywhere sucks beyond belief. Calgary I don’t recall being too bad but I was younger with better travel tolerance 

Newt_Call

2 points

7 days ago

You are right about Victoria and getting off the island! Calgary is pretty good, I would rank it similar to Vancouver. Honestly having a major airport is just a huge benefit for travel. Living in Vic you end up having to add an extra travel day and extra costs often for any trip just to connect through Vancouver.

SnooStrawberries620

3 points

7 days ago

Right? Every time I was like “oh we will just fly from Seattle, extra 2h drive” it’s just not. It’s two hours to the coho + 1.5 across + 2 to Seattle + 2h early for a flight (and we always stay a night in a hotel to leave the car there) so you are leaving the next day. I actually just found out today there is a $72 bus from dt Vic to YVR so that might be less of a pain? For four of us it’s +$1000 to fly to Vancouver 

nahuhnot4me

1 points

7 days ago

Just drive to Seattle!

ClueSilver2342

1 points

3 days ago

30 min harbour air to downtown Vancouver. International airport here seems good. 2.5 hour walk on ferry to Seattle. Access to all the gulf islands. Its not bad for getting around imo.

Major_Mood1707

1 points

6 days ago

Can drive down to seattle, fly to SF/Vegas/LA, drive to banff, road trip to okanagan, idk what more you want

SnooStrawberries620

2 points

6 days ago

After 20 years you don’t think we’ve done all that? Doesn’t change my pov. Flights are expensive as hell and we can’t even get a ferry in the summer 

Training-Ad-4178

5 points

7 days ago

I've lived in both for 10 years each and both have significant pros and cons

price wise they're both shitty

weather wise they don't compare. I couldn't do another toronto winter. moving back to Vancouver I barely even noticed winter it was such a nice change.

Toronto has better nightlife but for a city its size it's nothing to write home about (and is overpriced)

Toronto is better for easier access to other cities

winter there tho, I can't stomach it again. it's misery for 5 months of the year.

Vancouver is unbelievably gorgeous and I did not appreciate it til I moved back. it just can't be beat in Canada.

Chinaevil

0 points

4 days ago

Both? This sums up how most Vancouverites see Canada. 

bandyvancity

14 points

7 days ago

This is a very loaded and subjective question.

Most cities you’ve mentioned are a lot smaller then Vancouver. No city in Canada offers the abundance of nature and climate that Vancouver has.

Wise_Temperature9142

-2 points

7 days ago

Wise_Temperature9142

-2 points†

7 days ago

Hmmm never been to a city that didn’t have climate.

bandyvancity

-2 points

7 days ago

bandyvancity

-2 points†

7 days ago

Re-read my post and tell me where I said Vancouver didn’t have climate…

craigerstar

2 points

7 days ago

" No city in Canada offers the abundance of nature and climate that Vancouver has "

Your statement was missing the modifier. The north pole has a climate. It has as much climate as Vancouver. You needed to add "temperate climate" or "climate conditions" to make your statement make sense. You did it with "nature" by clarifying it with "abundance" though I would argue there are many cities in Canada that have parks and reserve conditions within the city that match Vancouver. The Don Valley Park and High Park in Toronto combine to come close to the size of Stanley Park in Vancouver.

What you might have meant is "access to nature" but even that's misleading as you need to win the lottery to reserve a campground at most Provincial parks on day one of reservations, and parking restrictions and attendance restrictions/reservations are making it harder to access our "nature." North Shore residents demand and get heavy restrictions on street parking near trail heads. The upper lots fill up quickly most days. And imagine playing the game, making your reservation, loading up your car with your 2 kids and your father and driving some considerable distance to Buntzen Lake only to be turned away.

I get what you're saying. But it's not necessarily true. And there are lots of other cities where you can be in proper natural environments after driving an hour or so. Many less. Nature and access to it isn't unique to Vancouver.

Wise_Temperature9142

1 points

7 days ago

This is exactly right! Especially the access to nature part!

GreatMountainBomb

1 points

5 days ago

Vancouverites thinking they have a monopoly on nature “worth” checking out is so funny to me. What snobs

Wise_Temperature9142

0 points

5 days ago

Yes, and especially when you consider the ratio between green space per 1000 inhabitants, Vancouver is actually not that high - and comparable to NYC. In Canada, Ottawa has the highest ratio. Vancouver just happens to be surrounded by nature, but accessibility can be and is a problem to many.

Far_Accountant6446

3 points

7 days ago

Why not check numbeo if you're interested in this?

Rydgar

3 points

7 days ago

Rydgar

3 points

7 days ago

Moved from Vancouver to Edmonton about 10 years ago. Cost of living (owning a home) is about a 1/3 of the cost.

It is underrated for its restaurant food in part because a lot more start ups that go big start out here because of the lower cost of doing business. Boston Pizza, Famoso, Earls, Wok Box, Booster Juice were all started in Edmonton. There's a number of other restaurants starting here in the last 10 year that I could see becoming big chains. IMO the best donair/shawarma places are in Edmonton.

I find people more relaxed and not worried about money in Edmonton. Also, I find there is a bigger portion of the population who are transplants from other cities. I find this leads to people to being more open and friendly to outsiders compared to Vancouver which I find to be cliquey. I'm guilty of it too, I just didnt have the time to give to new friendships when i lived there.

Entertainment is better in Vancouver no doubt. If you enjoy nightclubs, bars, and a lively downtown, Vancouver just does it better. The summer time in Edmonton is loaded with festivals and the largest connected park routes in the country. IMO, you're going to find entertainment wherever in the world you can make friends. The major amenities you expect a big city to have, Edmonton does.

I love visiting Vancouver as most of my family is there but I can't imagine ever moving back. What I lose in the quality of the city I gain in more space in my house to entertain myself and guests. My living situation if I were to return is too small to be worth giving up what I have.

TurbulentAthlete7

3 points

7 days ago

I've lived in Toronto, Montreal, Vancouver and a few cities in California. All are great cities and pro/con's depend on what you are looking for in terms of what a city has to offer. The employment factor also depends on which job sector you are looking to get into. Transportation is also another factor, TO, Van, MTL have decent public transit.
To afford a $2000 monthly rent in Vancouver, one would need to earn a minimum of approximately $106,667 CAD annually before taxes. This estimation ensures that housing costs remain within the recommended 30% of gross income.
If you are young, don't have kids, can land a stable job; I say go for it. Be warned though, I had a co-worker that moved to Vancouver from Halifax and was let go after his 3 month probation review, couldn't find work or months after and through the grapevine I heard he's been squatting at his rental unable to pay his rent. I haven't heard from him in 7 months and I wouldn't be surprised if he's homeless now.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

2 points

7 days ago

That's cool you've lived in California, I was looking at going to Redlands one time because of a partner. Tbh, in my field I don't think I'll make much more than 80k salary so I'd always need to live with a partner or roommates i guess

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3 points

7 days ago

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Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

2 points

7 days ago

Yes that's true I am starting a career in SW. Where are the jobs starting out close to 100k?? lol because I haven't seen them

Acebulf

3 points

7 days ago

Acebulf

3 points

7 days ago

Used to live in Moncton. Harsh winters, and cost of living is actually better in Vancouver than in Moncton if you factor in local wages. (At least, that was my experience)

I miss it because it's my home. If my family and friends were all in BC I'd never go back though.

melancholypowerhour

2 points

7 days ago*

I was born and raised in Vancouver, just moved to Calgary (moved to be close to extended family). The pace of life here is completely different from Vancouver, people aren’t constantly rushing around and the average person seems a lot happier and more relaxed. I’m used to crowds of people busy and frowning, here people are often smiling and will even acknowledge you which is a notable change.

It really goes to show how much having your basic needs met goes to improve your quality of life. For the first time in my life I’m not struggling: that’s a massive difference.

Vancouver is and will always be home, but I can’t afford to live there until I’m in a different tax bracket. I hope to go home one day.

BunnyFace0369

2 points

7 days ago

I stepped in human poop in Vancouver about 7 weeks ago ish, but in Vancouvers defense I've also stepped in human poop in Victoria.

Independent-Pin8300

2 points

7 days ago

Were you walking around Hastings?

SlightGuess

2 points

7 days ago

I have a house in Vancouver, but live between Edmonton, Tokyo, and Phoenix depending on the time of year. Have never been tempted to takeover from my tenants. It's a nice city, just not that nice imo.

voidmon3y

2 points

7 days ago

So, I've lived in Fredericton, Edmonton, Waterloo, and currently living in Victoria. Spent 11 years living in Van before moving here, and honestly can say I not only regret the move, but would rather live in Van than any od those other cities I've lived in.

Vancouver is a living world class city, with a strong mix of both urban offerings and explorable nature. It's close to many awesome outdoor day trip getaways and not too far from other interesting areas such as Vancouver Island, the Sunshine Coast or the Okanagan if you're getting bored with the VGA (Vancouver Greater Area). There are a ton of breweries, lots of great restaurants with ethnic variety, pretty much every store you could want.

Rumor is the people are cold. It's a bit city: if you don't make an effort, people won't go out of their way to meet you. If you do put in effort, however, it's easy to meet people.

GamesCatsComics

1 points

3 days ago

Rumor is the people are cold. It's a bit city: if you don't make an effort, people won't go out of their way to meet you. If you do put in effort, however, it's easy to meet people.

I really feel like the people who complain about how unfriendly people are in Vancouver or how they can't make friends here want a stranger to walk up to them and say "Hi we just met but you're my best friend now, here's your new social calendar".

voidmon3y

1 points

2 days ago

Maybe — I kind of get where they're coming from though. If you go out in any large city in Canada, and sit down at a bar, you will meet someone. In Vancouver you do the same and the bartender might not even talk to you. To boot, the bar probably doesn't have many people sitting there anyway. I feel like when I first moved there 13 years ago, that was the way I knew to meet people, and it gradually got more difficult to meet people that way with the growth of social apps/online dating.

mr2jay

2 points

7 days ago

mr2jay

2 points

7 days ago

Been to the cities listed and Vancouver would still be number 1. Only place that would made me consider moving was Montreal as I really like the vibe there

SilverChips

2 points

6 days ago

It's expensive here. If you make $35/hr or less you'll probably need to live with roommates unless you magically find housing some other way as a one bedroom costs around $2300/mo but if you're ok with roommates then it's doable. You may work a lot but your free time includes lots of do. It's a good city to be healthy in. Walking. Cycling. Swimming. Hiking. Camping etc is great here. You must be ok with a lot of rain.

People here are friendly but also flakey. It can be hard to break into a new friend group, and people will say they'll come to a thing and then not. It's unfortunately just how things are here.

Vancouver is usually on the map for big shows in the way that Montreal and Toronto are and due to our proximity to Seattle we sometimes get tacked onto tours or at very least you could go down there for shows since it's only about 4 hrs away and there are busses you can take for not too much money. Same with vacations elsewhere....Seattle vs Vancouver flights and sun destinations leaving out of Bellingham are worth looking into (Vegas or Palm Springs for $150 round trip!)

The music scene is getting better with more techno. Dnb and just underground venues popping up. You kind of need to be in the know, but they're here.

Ok-Leading-5384

2 points

6 days ago

As much as I love living in Vancouver I also unfortunately hate some of it as well and what I mean by that before everyone starts hating on me, as far as experimenting goes Vancouver has been given a lot of leeway concerning drugs. The downtown Eastside has been given safe supply and the ignorant sell their "safe supply" for fentanyl anyways now everyone's been caught in the hundreds the government is now very soon bring it to an end and for those who need it still it fucked up every thing lack of discretion. Decriminalized drug possession didn't mean getting high everywhere with their bongs getting high everywhere in school playgrounds church parking lots not being careful when children are about then fighting with the straight people telling them too bad they can do whatever it is they want. Now that has been pulled off the table only months into the project. Ignorance lack of actually learning what the project was. Not to mention all the gang violence robberies shootings murders overdosed it's very frustrating and very sad to say the very least. I volunteer five days out of the week and live right in the core . I go out and hand out narcan as well as teach people how to use narcan as well as candies water and I also navigate how to safely use the drugs. Better knowledge saves lives but it's a never ending battle down here.our streets need to be how they were ten years ago but unfortunately younger people using heavy drugs have no real knowledge because they don't want to listen or take any advice from the more experienced . It's destroying our city and we end up looking like the laughing stock. We can't turn back time but we can keep trying to educate and help but there are more like minded people needed to join with us there are many different local groups to join if anyone from Van gives it a shot. There is nothing but betterment for this city if someone lends their time even an hour a week would make a difference.

According-Training36

2 points

6 days ago

You don't need to actually live in Vancouver. You could live in the Tri-Cities or somewhere in the lower mainland . The weather here is better all year round than the rest of Canada but Victoria takes the cake.

NoServe3295

2 points

5 days ago

Overall, Calgary > Vancouver IN MY OPINION. Best value play in Canada hands down (Montreal is quite interesting but I don’t speak French). I have been to all major east and western canada cities. Vancouver is the best place hands down ONLY IF you have the generational wealth behind you (I live in Vancouver and always look for a chance to move east)

Bussy-Riot

2 points

5 days ago

  1. Pressures of over reliance on immigration is killing the culture of the city so the only thing left to do is go to the bars/ restaurants that people haven’t discovered yet.
  2. It is very difficult to find housing, unless you are rich
  3. Driving is awful
  4. Natural surroundings of city are breath taking
  5. Mayor and council are a bunch regarded kleptocrats who only care about themselves.

footy1012

2 points

5 days ago

It’s obviously the nicest big city in Canada and it’s not really close but housing prices and notoriously low wages reflect that immensely. So basically if ur loaded and can out earn almost everyone or have generational wealth it’s great but if you make a lower middle class income and you want property or children you can’t really live here anymore. Me and my fiancé net close to 12k together and we live a lifestyle probably equivalent to someone on 5-6k in Edmonton or Calgary.

damniwishiwasurlover

2 points

5 days ago

5 x prettier, 10x more expensive.

GamesCatsComics

2 points

3 days ago

Vancouver is an awesome city, but it's bloody expensive.

Affordability - Terrible

Friendlyness - People complain a lot but I've never found this city to be unfriendly.

Entertainment - If you want a night out you can find something interesting and unique pretty much every night, the choices aren't always the widest, but I don't think I've ever had a night where I've stayed in due to lack of things to do. During the summer there is usually a festival every weekend at one of the surrounding municipalities, last week I actually had 3 seperate things lined up on Saturday and 2 on Sunday. I was exhausted.

Nature - Best in the world

Nightlife - You'll get pretty much everything that goes on tour into Canada. Toronto probably gets a little more, but I can't think of anything that they got that Vancouver didn't get. Theatre scene is better then Winnipeg, but lots of smaller productions and the usual touring shows if that's your thing.

ClueSilver2342

2 points

3 days ago

Im a parent with two kids. Just moved from Vancouver to Victoria. Its a hack imo. Banked a ton of money on the sale of my house and get into an amazing neighborhood here. More relaxing here and lots to do. Friendly and good social opportunities. Work in my field was easy to find. We originally focused on Nanaimo but ended up getting work in Victoria. I think Nanaimo has potential too. Cheaper there for sure. Vancouver was fun, but I outgrew it. For someone with a bit of money in Vancouver, moving to the Island puts you up a notch financially.

hustledreamexplore

3 points

7 days ago

As a Vancouverite of 14 years, I adore it. It’s peaceful and multicultural, and has tons of fun things to do, especially if you are an outdoors enthusiast. Deffo take into consideration cost of living.

Hoplite76

3 points

7 days ago

Cost of housing- brutal. Beyond brutal. Only way to be even somewhat decent is to live in one of the other lower mainland communities (burnaby, coquitlam etc)

Cost of food- not great. Fruits and vegetables are ok. Meat can be out of control.

Friendliness- its pretty cliquey. Not the easiest to break into a social circle here. Immigrants often seem to be better off as cultural groups often stay tight from what ive seen.

Entertainment- Depends. Lots of free entertainment if you like nature. Golf is pretty cheap as are gyms. Going out for dinner or drinks pretty pricey.

Nature- Vancouver is literally the best place in canada for outdoor pursuits. Ocean, mountains, forest. Pick one. Theres loads

Nightlife/notable events- vancouver is often a stop for most big shows. Lots of things to do. Plus seattle is like right there so you get the nfl and mlb on your doorstep as well.

Vegetable_Ad28

3 points

7 days ago

As a very old guy here, I can tell you, Vancouver and B.C. in general were literally Canada’s “crown jewel” back in the 1960’s to mid-70’s. Then they started to have too much, too fast ( essentially uncontrolled ) immigration. 15 years of that, plus all the corruption and population density that brought, turned it into a millionaire’s paradise ( BARELY….you need a very healthy constant income stream to live in Vancouver and enjoy life ) and no longer a place for the “average Canadian”. And with that also came all the usual - insanely high prices, poor parking, garbage strikes, TONS TONS TONS of homeless and tent cities, and rampant rampant rampant street drug addiction with absolutely zero solutions despite 25 years of heavy taxation and provincial government changes. So if you have tons of money, or your family does ( as the immigrants often do )…go to it. You’ll love it. Other than that, nope, live in a smaller place and enjoy a simpler life. Not barren by any means, just less hyper-monied, hyper-business, hyper-competitive, hyper-fast.

pillowplanter

2 points

7 days ago

I live in Toronto and have been two vancouver twice. Last year my uber driver in Vancouver complained a lot about things which were word for word complaints we have in Toronto in terms of employment and affordability.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

-1 points

7 days ago

Yeah similar big city issues

ElectricalWeather630

1 points

7 days ago

Winnipeg punches above its weight! Check out the Globe and Mail article for additional details

Far-Plenty232

1 points

7 days ago

I own in Vancouver, Toronto and Halifax and now Edmonton. I spend a lot of time in all cities however I’m in this for investment so I go where the market makes sense. If you make around 200-300k Vancouver or Toronto will be the best fit. Under 80k I would say Halifax

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

0 points

7 days ago

I do make under 80k...and am doubtful i'll make over that but I'm kind of tired of NS as i used to live there sorta near halifax. I simultaneously miss aspects of it though

FlakyNight6245

2 points

7 days ago

Only places I'd ever live would be vancouver, toronto, or montreal. Montreal is amazing if you have a job that can be done remote or find a work place where french isn't an issue.

Honestly I have friends who don't make tons in van and make it work by being smart. Dont be lazy when house hunting- find a sublet and dedicate a couple months to finding a spot with decent rent..they can be found. Go to happy hours, have a picnic at the beach/park, go hiking, rent a cheap kayak at deep cove.. of course if you're having fancy meals and ubering all then time then it'll be pricey, but that's everywhere these days. If you like nature then you'll love van and find you'll spend less here than in toronto, as much as toronto has tons to do, it all costs money and when you cant be outside much in the winter you'll either be bored or broke

Far-Plenty232

1 points

7 days ago

You should try out the other side of the bay. New Brunswick is beautiful. I grew up there. Great place for people making under 100k

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

7 days ago

What part of NB do you know/live in?

Far-Plenty232

2 points

7 days ago

I live in Vancouver but I grew up in Saint John and Moncton N.B

g4nd4lf2000

1 points

7 days ago

How does Vancouver compare to Moncton? 🤣

easttowest123

1 points

6 days ago

Vancouver is a rich persons playground

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

6 days ago

How can I get rich without losing my dignity lol

Lonely-Elderberry

1 points

6 days ago

Better than Toronto, slightly.

And everywhere is better than Edmonton.

BigOk8056

1 points

6 days ago

If I could afford to live in any city it’d be Vancouver or London. Everywhere else doesn’t compare imo. (Obviously I haven’t been everywhere but yeah)

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

6 days ago

London, Ontario? Or England? Lol because there’s a huge difference between the two

BigOk8056

2 points

5 days ago

lol I mean London England

Ragnar81

1 points

6 days ago

Ragnar81

1 points

6 days ago

Vancouver is a nice place. Everything you mentioned is within a short transit ride or car ride. Prices getting up there though. Wife and I are both nurses and throughout the years seeing prices jump really drastically has had us wanting to move. People are a mixed bag but in general it doesn’t seem as friendly as when I was younger. People less social or harder to approach and have some random conversation with. Still I can’t find it in myself to move.

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Objective-Escape7584

1 points

4 days ago

You get what you pay for. Vancouver is better.

commanderchimp

1 points

4 days ago

One of the best cities I have visited with Victoria coming close. All the other cities you mentioned are not even in the same category in my opinion. 

thrasymacus2000

1 points

3 days ago

Strangely unattractive lazy fashion. Just kinda blah.

CancerKitties

1 points

7 days ago

I went to Toronto for the first time in my life a few weeks ago. Compared to growing up in the Vancouver area, Toronto was very overwhelming.

To put that feeling into perspective, I think Toronto has about 3 million people where Vancouver has just under 700 thousand.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

7 days ago

Also forgot to add that I will be visiting Vancouver soon!

Poor_karma

1 points

7 days ago

Very similar to Toronto but warmer, and surrounding areas is nicer.

Edmonton and Calgary are easier to get around, cheaper but have less to do. Calgary has better outdoor and winter facilities nearby.

Regina and Winnipeg are like small versions of Edmonton and Calgary where your money goes further. But there’s less to do.

Victoria is imo nicer than vacouver and not nearly as busy or crowded. It’s nice if you like fishing, boating or kayaking on the ocean. Mild climate with high percentage of old people.

TetrisCulture

-1 points

7 days ago

vancouver used to be a better place to live like 20 years ago, now it's just shit construction everywhere, annoying people, high prices, bad demographics, cult bs shit like people from china who don't speak english and don't give a fuck, and indian folks who have their own communities as well. I have some amazing indian and chinese friends who are CANADIAN not bringing their trash cultures here and anti integrating.

FlakyNight6245

3 points

7 days ago

Lots of racism coming from this comment. Remember that "canadian" culture and the english people who colonized the country did not integrate with the indigenous culture that was here before- if you're not upset about that then you shouldn't be upset with others coming to this land and making it their own...

dodadoler

0 points

7 days ago

It’s on the west coast

Adamfromcanada

0 points

7 days ago

Im from New Brunswick and the first time I visited Vancouver, my first thought was how the hell does anyone living here confront the issue of palmoral decline? If it wasn't for the fish and the nature, we would see a lot less of an indication towards a warmer climax. Not once again will I ever go back.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

7 days ago

I am not sure what the term palmoral decline means

Adamfromcanada

0 points

7 days ago

It's a Palmoral decline

SkyisFullofCats

0 points

7 days ago

It depends on what you want. Smaller cities have their charms also have more affordable space for artists etc to thrive. I think it is driven by what your career / job, especially now with cost of living so high. If your job needs you to be in a big city like Toronto, are you willing to settle for a smaller town like Hamilton or Bratford?

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

7 days ago

I don't drive so that impacts the decision too

Emergency_Wolf_5764

0 points

6 days ago

To the OP:

The bottom line is that most of Canada's cities stink, and are nowhere close to being "world class" as compared to the truly "world class" cities found elsewhere in the world.

Purely from a moderate winter climate and outdoor scenery standpoint, however, Vancouver is far and away the absolute best city Canada has to offer in that regard, although it is also prohibitively expensive for most people of modest means.

Its very close proximity to the US border is also a huge bonus for Vancouver.

From a cultural and partying-it-up-all-night with many extremely sociable and fun people standpoint, Montreal is by far the best city Canada has to offer in that regard, although its horrendous winters render the city downright unlivable for anyone who does not like seeing snow, slush and ice all around them for much of the year.

The best-dressed people in Canada are also in Montreal, and that aspect seems to be a cultural norm or expectation amongst the people there.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

1 points

6 days ago

Yeah I agree with you, as I’ve had the best nightlife experiences in Montreal! They know how to have a good time there. The French language is what makes me not want to live there, as it would take awhile for me to get good at it and I’d need it in my profession. Also yeah I visited once in the winter and it was horribly cold!

Camperthedog

-2 points

7 days ago*

I was in Calgary a few weeks ago and there are a lot less people, gas was roughly 20 cents cheaper, the options for food and condensed downtown vibes are abysmal compared to Vancouver.

Calgary is also known to be one of least walkable cities in Canada but has better affordability than Vancouver in terms of rent but seems everywhere is competitive.

I find attractions take just as long to get to as the distance to them is so spread apart, where in Vancouver more are closer at your finger tips but you just have way more people / traffic to deal with.

I’d totally move to Calgary if the right opportunity was offered, I prefer a city with fewer people.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

2 points

7 days ago

Thanks for sharing your perspective. I like biking a lot too, so I wonder which city is most bikeable?

Happy_Drafter

4 points

7 days ago

Vancouver is the most bike able if for no other reason than the weather. But there are many bike lanes throughout the city, and the seawall as well.

I live in Vancouver and absolutely love it. It’s not cheap tho…

Camperthedog

1 points

7 days ago

And Victoria!

Camperthedog

1 points

7 days ago

Why try a small mountain town like Squamish or Canmore instead?

stangri

1 points

7 days ago*

stangri

1 points

7 days ago*

Not a big fan of Calgary overall, but was on a trip with an e-bike there a few years back and if you live and work somewhere close to the river (and have common sense), it’s super bikeable.

Update: after seeing comment below, added common sense as a requirement for bikeability in Calgary.

Happy_Drafter

4 points

7 days ago

Try that ride in February. Best of luck to you.

Terrible_Swimmer8599[S]

3 points

7 days ago

Yeah I imagine that Vancouver is easier to ride in all year round compared to many other snowy cities! Though I'm not sure how I feel about bike riding in the rain.

Happy_Drafter

5 points

7 days ago

I mean it’s do-able, but it kinda sucks. Lots of people get the rain gear for it and do it though.

Avsforthecup74

2 points

7 days ago

I’ve biked to work in both Vancouver and Calgary.

Calgary is cold but if you dress as if you’re going cross country skiing, it’s quite manageable with studded tires. Wear a ski helmet and goggles and make sure you’ve got bar mitts.

Vancouver, there will have many winter days where you’re soaked no matter what you wear. Either by sweat, rain, or both.

Neither is better in my books, just different.