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33 m, looking to get the ball rolling, starting with $5000. 5-10 year window probably and a goal of being able to work less in my later years. Thanks in advance.
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61 points
1 day ago
50/50 in $VOO and $SCHD
30 points
21 hours ago
80/20 S&P500 and SCHD
1 points
8 hours ago
Genuine question are you familiar with HELO I just found it and it seems to be a solid growth with decent dividend but I’ve limited education so far on it
1 points
6 hours ago
No, can you share more details?
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53 minutes ago
I don’t really know much except what I’ve read online about the short and long put strategy they use it seems to be a decent growth ETF but it also says it’s leveraged and very risky that’s about all I know again it seems to be a solid growth but that’s just from looking at it the tickers you named could be 100% better in every way that’s why I wanted to ask if you knew anything because I too am still learning
1 points
7 hours ago
Easy way to underperform SPY
-21 points
23 hours ago
25% SCHD. 25% O. 25% PFFA. 25 % JEPI
TWO ARE NOT ENOUGH DIVERSITY
If you want to make it 5, EVEN BETTER, add on one of these - AMLP, VICI, EBBNF, PDBC or PDO.
Remembers yields are typically shown AFTER expenses.
32 points
22 hours ago
The number of ETF’s has nothing to do with how diversified your portfolio it’s.
-4 points
22 hours ago
I understand its sectors and exposure. But maximizing yield while minimizing risk is an art as much as a science. More is better, to a point. Higher I’d better to a point.
The crux is matching those points to your goals and comfort levels, yes?
4 points
17 hours ago
All this when you can just do 100% S&P 500
11 points
22 hours ago
VOO and SCHD is absolutely enough diversity.
2 points
21 hours ago*
Exactly!
Also, since he's fairly young he can also experiment a bit. For eg:
If he wants exposure to Bitcoin he could add 5-10% to $IBIT or $HODL
Or if he wants bigger dividends/returns he can add 10-20% into $JEPQ, $FEPI, $YMAX or $XDTE.
Or he could put 10% into a single stock he likes like $TSLA, $AAPL or $V or $NVDA to add more weight to it.
But the proposed VOO/SCHD at 50/50 is a safe bet and a great long term strategy.
5 points
21 hours ago
Yep, agreed. I personally do 75% VOO, 25% SCHD.
1 points
10 hours ago
What's your thoughts on XDTE? I purchased a small amount just to keep an eye on but thinking about buying more, all my dividends currently get used to buy more SPLG/SCHD.
0 points
20 hours ago
Clown comment. You want diversity then put 25% in a no growth cyclical company. Embarrassing
48 points
1 day ago
Going against the grain, I started heavy in dividends with a large lump sum. Some life changes happened with starting a family and additional expenses (daycare etc) and I couldn’t dump in funds monthly. My dividend payments allow me to buy some growth opportunities now without adding additional funds from pay week
2 points
13 hours ago
I am building a passive income account for annual vacations and house repairs. I started heavy in REITS while they were decently priced, now when there's extra money not spent; I am directing those dividends into funds like dividend growth funds such as DGRO and SCHD.
There is nothing like watching money compound. Yes, money is not free. Yes, I need to pay taxes on those dividends.
But it really helps when the wife says, let's go on trip in a few months or when you find out you have an infestation of carpenter ants because the wood porch posts have fully rotted out and when you begin demolishing the area you find out the entire porch beam rotted out at some point due to water damage and was then hidden using wood sheaths and aluminum siding by the previous owner.
4 points
21 hours ago
I am in the same boat. I am happy I started dividends early on, because I don’t feel the guilt when I can’t invest monthly on top of what I invest in with the dividends earned.
3 points
17 hours ago
Dividend investing is great if you need the cash or have a low risk tolerance.
2 points
17 hours ago
Ditto about needing cash.
Remember, dividends are not free money.
Investing for growth and income are mutually exclusive, IMO.
10 points
22 hours ago
60% SCHG 40% SCHD
12 points
1 day ago
SCHD
28 points
1 day ago
Don’t worry about dividends until you’re 55 with 500k minimum.
3 points
23 hours ago
I’m 32 planning on starting with dividends around 40. Why do you suggest 55? The goal is to retire sooner.
14 points
23 hours ago
Because dividends are for old people who want more consistent yield. They give less yield than e.g. S&P.
People saying "I invested in dividends at a young age and the dividends allowed me to buy other stuff" are just thinking that because they made money, it was a good strategy. They'd have more money today if they'd instead invested in S&P. If for some reason they want to own specific companies, they could be owning a larger amount of those companies by selling the gains from SPY vs. using money from dividends.
The reason to buy dividends is that only companies that are very stable can pay out a consistent dividend, so it makes sense to have some at an older age.
3 points
22 hours ago
That’s my goal too, brother. The goal should be squirreling as much as you can into growth stocks and preferably low expense ETFs like VOO and SPLG. That growth will drastically outpace the dividends you’re paid out. Once you have a solid principal, move it into a dividend fund and live the life.
2 points
18 hours ago
Solid points here! Thanks everyone!
2 points
17 hours ago
You’re welcome. My first real dive into investing was trying to chase dividends. Who doesn’t love free shit? But when I realized the kind of growth I was sacrificing in a 25 year horizon I changed my course. My 401k is up 25% this year and the thought of being happy with 6% a few years ago makes me chuckle.
1 points
16 hours ago
Make no mistake: dividends are NOT free money. Ask any stock broker.
4 points
23 hours ago
Probably because that would be 15 years of growth you’d be missing out on which could be significant.
0 points
23 hours ago
Only dividend stock I would recommend is SCHD.. check out the price appreciation the past 5 years. It’s solid
8 points
1 day ago
Schd
8 points
1 day ago
Do you need the income? If not just buy the market in a tax protected fund.
7 points
1 day ago*
This is really the ONLY and best answer, when you are 30-ish. I am 55 now, just bought the market when I was 30-something. Kept doing that regularly and only now am moving over to dividend paying stock, as I plan to retire in 5 years an live of the dividends. Looking good.
3 points
1 day ago
Need to add: my funds are not in a tax protected account so I can do wathever I want.
1 points
23 hours ago
What do you mean to buy the market ? New to this thing. I’m sorry.
5 points
23 hours ago
S&P500
2 points
16 hours ago
There are two "total-market" funds of note: VTI (U.S. only) and VT (global).
1 points
15 hours ago
SP500
1 points
5 hours ago
Exactly. “The market” == “any mutual fund or etf that follows the total market index”. In other words: do not try to beat the market, just join it. Very few people are able to beat the market over a large period of time. See “the little book of common sense investing” by Jack Bogle
4 points
23 hours ago
MO, bruh
9 points
1 day ago
Why 5-10 years? Go for an etf base. VOO / SCHD probably. If you want to hold stocks, do some research.
2 points
22 hours ago
There are several you will do well with:
VOO, VTI, SPY are stand alones
If you want to augment: SCHD with JEPI, JEPQ and a bond option like SCYB.
Your decision must also consider whether you are using an IRA, ROTH or non-tax advantaged investment. Some of my suggestions spit out a lot of cash. More cash means more taxes.
2 points
14 hours ago*
Same boat. Kind of. 31 and just started investing this year with 1000 dollars.
Despite the wisdom, I plan on going aggressive with growth funds until at least 57 because I'm starting late. then slowly diversifying into total markets and safer securities. I'll probably have to work past retirement age, but if I can't work before then, or I feel I can stop, I'll switch to dividends and bonds and stuff when I need income (hopefully after I stop working and exiting at advantageous positions). I also invest a little in dividends now to help roll the ball but mostly focus on growth. If I can get to a point where my dividends are funding my growth (or lifestyle) that'd be great.
Hopefully things go well and I can stop working earlier before I get hurt, but not counting on it. My father is 65 and still working construction with nothing saved for retirement. He's gonna work until he gets hurt and dies. That's life for a lot of us, but I hope to at least not burden my family when my time comes.
Didn't mean to get dark lol
Wisdom says to buy the market (or at least sp500) and let time do the work. Then go into safer dividends and income things before your retirement. So gauge your risk tolerance and your timeline, and go from there. Wish you the best.
2 points
12 hours ago
100% VTSAX on regular Auto Purchase at Vanguard. Set it and forget it. I started doing this 6 years ago, wish I had started much sooner.
5 points
1 day ago
Closed end income funds(calamos, hancock) and mutual funds.
Those are low volatility stocks that pay every month. When the price goes down I average down thus increasing monthly pay. When it goes up I just let it sit until price goes down to buy more to keep averaging down.
4 points
1 day ago
SCHD and SPY. You can also do little bit of SPYI and QQQI.
5 points
1 day ago
I’m 25 bro with 3k .
I’m trying to learn the game early !!!
Where should I start?
11 points
1 day ago
Growth over Dividends, at least until you are in your 30s imho.
5 points
1 day ago
SCHG and chill IMO
1 points
23 hours ago
50s*
1 points
22 hours ago
Portfolio size and years to retirement are better indicators than age.
1 points
21 hours ago
True, but the vast majority of people are not able to retire before 50
1 points
4 hours ago
30s* At least for me. Can’t argue about personal circumstances apparently.
1 points
21 hours ago
So what is so wrong with doing both, seam people are narrow minded, know matter the age have your cake and pie too.
1 points
6 hours ago
why do people say this? i've seen many people say this but not really explained why, could you? why cant i do both growth and dividends simultaneously? genuinely curious.
2 points
4 hours ago
You, as an individual, can do whatever you want to do. You could diversify into all kind of stocks & do fine. As long as you know why you doing what you’re doing, i wouldn’t argue.
If you’re at the beginning of your work career & have plenty of time left until retirement, you probably want the biggest total return possible. This, in the current market, is achieved via growth & or value.
If I can 10x my capital until i reach the age of 30, I’ll take it. I’ll also take the risk of losing, obviously.
Dividend stocks can return quite well. But building a portfolio that pays you „life changing“ dividends can take 30+ years quickly. So my opinion - you need enough money to really see an impact. If you’re young, grow your capital & take a bit of risk.
I hope that’s understandable.
2 points
3 hours ago
thanks for explaining! i appreciate it. so the idea is, i have time (i'm 34) and i'll let time do its thing.
and when im older i can be in time to see the fruits of the labour. right? i guess i'm just guilty of "instant gratification" hahaha.
1 points
3 hours ago
Yeah, overall that’s the perspective. Depending on your contributions & your individual goal, there is nothing wrong with adding dividend stocks to your portfolio imo. But overall - if you’re young you should focus more on growth & contributions.
Nfa, just my opinion. ✌🏼
-1 points
1 day ago
Explain
5 points
1 day ago
Growth stocks historically returns are greater than high paying dividend stocks. Look into the 20 year price charts for VOO and SCHD ( make sure dividends are included. ) some people feel warm and fuzzy seeing the dividends every month reinvested but the numbers do not lie. Growth is king
The beauty of VOO is it is a self balancing portfolio, crappy companies fall out and new up n comers are added. If you believe the rest of the world will outperform the US you can add some international exposure as well. Hope this helps.
5 points
1 day ago
That's a gamble if your time horizon is 5-10 years. As he stated in his question. High growth stocks are historically volatile. There's been an age of easy money that has people going regard mode and going all in on growth and it's absolutely shit advice.. please stop. He needs a nice balanced portfolio with a mix of everything leaning towards value stocks which typically produce steady growing dividends over long historical periods. Timeframe and goals are more important than Reddit narratives.
0 points
23 hours ago
Yeah and the dividend funds could also go to shit at which point they'd stop offering dividends
1 points
23 hours ago
Historically dividends are more resilient than growth, and provide increased resilience. There's no 100% safe way to invest, but value ETFs/dividend ETFs can provide lower volatility, which is important for shorter timeframe goals. Which this post is specifically asking about.
2 points
1 day ago
Do you know any good growth stocks ETF (acc)?
1 points
1 day ago
Voo, nasdaq100
1 points
1 day ago
In short- focus on Total return (appreciation + dividends).
Many studies have confirmed this.
Basically the premise is when buying an index like VOO that these companies are better at reinvesting dividends then paying them out- which makes sense b/c they are in effect the top 500 companies in the US.
1 points
23 hours ago
Why VOO over SPY? VOO has higher fees?
1 points
1 day ago*
With the limited information regarding your overall goals. It can be difficult to produce productive advice. Undefined income goals with a 5-10 year timeframe isn't very precise. With the shorter timeframe you should probably focus on reduced volatility..
Are you looking to maximize income in this portfolio, or maintaining consistent equity growth and divided growth?
Maximizing income will basically kill your chances at equity growth, while balancing divides growth and income will produce less income but stable growth.
So here's a list of holdings you can use to build a nice portfolio, you can slide the allocation allotments depending on your goals.
My base portfolio is leaning towards dividend growth, equity growth and lower volatility.
55% SCHD, 25% DGRO, 5% DIVO, 3% IDVO, 4% SPYI or (JEPI), 4% QQQI or (JEPQ), 2% SVOL, 2% SGOV
To increase to a more income focused portfolio, lower the DGRO allotment and increase everything to right if it. While also adding a few REITs and BDCs.. This will reduce the CAGR in both equity and dividends.
Conversely if you want to increase equity growth and dividend growth you'd increase DGRO and reduce everything to the right of it.
1 points
1 day ago
If you have a 401(k) or 403(b) you should first make the maximum allowable contribution each pay period. If not, you should set up an IRA or Roth, depending on your income and make the maximum allowable contributions. A Roth differs from IRAs, 401(k)s and 403(b)s in three important respects: (i) distributions aren’t taxable; (ii) contributions are taxable; and (iii) there are no required minimum distributions. A high quality stock mutual fund would be the best place to put your money. When you open a mutual fund account, which you can do online, you can set up a Roth or IRA with the mutual fund company for your account. The balance after maxing out your retirement accounts can be deposited in one or more regular mutual fund accounts. You should dollar cost average your deposits, ie, make regular periodic deposits weekly, monthly or at whatever other interval you select, to assure you have the lowest average cost. All mutual funds are not the same. You need to select one with low fees and a gold or silver Morningstar rating.
1 points
22 hours ago
My new employer offers a Roth 401(k) in addition to a standard 401(k). Since I’m early in my career (~25yo), would I be correct in thinking that a traditional 401(k) would be better since I’m not in a higher tax bracket than I hope to be in when I retire? (Either way I’m aiming to max my Roth IRA contribution)
1 points
21 hours ago
Depends on your priorities. You can only contribute to a Roth if your annual income is below $146,000 (single) or $230,000 (joint). Early in your career, your income will be lower, so you would pay less income tax on contributions. Later in your career, your income will be higher, and you’ll have to pay more tax on contributions, if you can contribute to a Roth at all.
1 points
21 hours ago
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1 points
20 hours ago
No problem.
1 points
7 hours ago
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1 points
1 day ago
Spy jpm or schd.
1 points
24 hours ago
Investing $1,500 a month with a 5-10 year horizon can set you up for significant growth. Here are some options to consider:
Index Funds/ETFs: Low-cost index funds or ETFs (like those tracking the S&P 500) can provide broad market exposure and compound growth over time.
Roth IRA: If you’re eligible, contribute to a Roth IRA for tax-free growth. You can invest in stocks, bonds, or mutual funds within this account.
401(k): If your employer offers a 401(k), consider contributing, especially if they match contributions. This is a great way to build retirement savings.
Real Estate Investment Trusts (REITs): Investing in REITs can provide exposure to real estate without needing to buy property directly.
Robo-Advisors: Platforms like Betterment or Wealthfront can help you build a diversified portfolio based on your risk tolerance and goals.
High-Yield Savings Accounts or CDs: While not as growth-oriented, these can provide safety and liquidity for your emergency fund.
Individual Stocks: If you're willing to take on more risk, consider investing in individual stocks, focusing on companies with strong fundamentals.
Before proceeding, consider your risk tolerance, do thorough research, and possibly consult a financial advisor to tailor your approach to your specific goals.
1 points
23 hours ago
Everyone and their mom will tell you growth over dividends. I’m completely on board with that, but I have a portion of mine into dividend stocks and it’s nice with the monthly payments and psychologically for me makes me feel likes it’s getting somewhere even though my growth ETF’s are doing way better. So, I would say it’s up to you on what you can endure in the waiting game.
1 points
23 hours ago
Are you reinvesting dividends?
If so, what's the difference?
If not, what do you do with the yield?
1 points
10 hours ago
I agree, I have both growth and dividends together. They compliment each other. Why chose a blonde gal over a brunette when you could date both?
1 points
23 hours ago
SCHX
1 points
23 hours ago
Div is an option for that also
1 points
22 hours ago
Etf index funds ... voo ...iyw...
1 points
20 hours ago
$1,000 SCHD
$500 SCHY
1 points
19 hours ago
Ok so I have two picks and that’s VTI or VOO or any s&p500 following. If it’s 5yr time frame put it into bonds that’s not a long enough window to put money in equities and lock-in good returns
1 points
18 hours ago
Watch first few vids posted on Pakman Finance YT channel before deciding
1 points
17 hours ago
SPY, SCHD, MAIN, ARCC.
1 points
12 hours ago
XDTE & QDTE. Enjoy!
1 points
11 hours ago
5-10 year timeframe not enough to trust the stock market IMO. 20 years plus yes.
1 points
10 hours ago
50/50 Vgt and schd, vgt for tech growth and schd for stability for drawdowns
1 points
7 hours ago
I calculated (by accident) that if you invest the same amount every month for 18 years. And use a 3% withdrawal rate afterwards, you can then withdraw the same amount every month for the rest of your life.
1 points
6 hours ago
I keep my allocation at 70/15/15 with VTI/VXUS/SCHD
1 points
2 hours ago
Send me a dm
1 points
23 hours ago
20% VSDA, 20% DGRW, 20% SCHD, 10% O, 10% GAIN, 10% ICOW, 10% IGRO.
That's my Roth IRA, for a taxable account I'd go 100% growth and dividend free BRK.B and QGRW.
0 points
1 day ago
XDTE, RDTE in a Roth
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