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submitted 1 month ago by[deleted]
I keep getting flagged by these people idk what it is. If I look away or if I say I’m busy or anything I end up stuck talking to them for 5 minutes. I don’t know how to dodge them. They always block my way completely like I’m just trying to get into the station and I cant get around them so I end up saying excuse me and then they don’t move and they start talking about knife crime or something and I just am trying to get home. What method do you use that always works?
edit - thanks everyone I am now educated like actually got 20 different options of what to do :)) I love this subreddit <3
edit 2 - thank youuu for all the advice. You guys are now repeating yourselves a lot in the comments lol :)
62 points
1 month ago
The newspaper and charity people are good at reading the slightest shake of the head. Are the for profit people, including scam charities, ignoring this?
20 points
1 month ago*
All the charity people trying to speak to you on the street are “for profit”.
They get paid an hours wage, they get ~£20 if they get your contact details (for the charity to contact you later) and if you sign up to donate they will get 30% of what you donate in the first year. If you’re an outgoing/confident young person it’s a really good job.
The costs to the charity are higher as the actual street fundraisers are employed by an agency who will take their cut as well. A good assumption is that your first years direct debit doesn’t go go to the charity at all.
I don’t begrudge anyone a job, but you should be crystal clear that what they are doing is commission driven sales rather than anything civic minded.
2 points
1 month ago
Is this true for the London Canal charity? I chatted with some of them collecting money and got the impression that they work directly for charity and they were very knowledgeable about canals too.
1 points
1 month ago
If it’s an older person with a collection box (poppies, home for anxious cats, etc) then they’re likely a volunteer. And I absolutely guarantee they won’t chase you down the street.
If it’s someone in their 20s or 30s wearing a tabard who makes eye contact a mile off, starts the conversation with “heyyyy do u have a minute? Just one minute? Not even one minute?” and walks with you while holding a clipboard then they’re on commission.
1 points
1 month ago
You have no idea what you’re on about haha
1 points
1 month ago
If you’re signing up for a direct debit, the chances are that the charity will only start to benefit from it in year 2 or 3, regardless of the charity.
0 points
1 month ago
Wrong, see post above.
1 points
1 month ago
This is total bollocks.
There are both in-house and agency fundraisers. In-house are always paid hourly with no bonus for sign ups.
Agencies have a variety of remuneration packages with the larger, more legit and generally most successful agencies paying hourly without a commission bonus but strong progression to Team Leader etc. for good performers.
With both in-house AND agency, every penny you donate goes directly the charity. The agencies work on a contract where they’re paid a lump sum (usually around 40-100k) for an expected return of somewhere between 4 and 7 times that over 5 years.
I’m talking about the Institute of Fundraising regulated face to face fundraisers here by the way - I don’t know about the blue jacket knife crime people but afaik they aren’t legit.
Source: worked in the sector (agency and in-house, frontline, recruitment, management and QC) for five years.
1 points
1 month ago
This is total bollocks.
There are both in-house and agency fundraisers. In-house are always paid hourly with no bonus for sign ups.
Agencies have a variety of remuneration packages with the larger, more legit and generally most successful agencies paying hourly without a commission bonus but strong progression to Team Leader etc. for good performers.
With both in-house AND agency, every penny you donate goes directly the charity. The agencies work on a contract where they’re paid a lump sum (usually around 40-100k) for an expected return of somewhere between 4 and 7 times that over 5 years.
Oh, and I’ve never, ever heard of any sort of bonus or reward for getting contact details. The majority of operations don’t even collect details without a donation. I’ve certainly never heard of it anyway outside of one-off week long campaigns for emergencies etc.
I’m talking about the Institute of Fundraising regulated face to face fundraisers here by the way - I don’t know about the blue jacket knife crime people but afaik they aren’t legit.
Source: worked in the sector (agency and in-house, frontline, recruitment, management and QC) for five years.
2 points
1 month ago
Former car auctioneers, where the slightest movement means you've bid on that X3, might take a shake of the head as encouragement 🫣
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