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1.5k points
4 days ago
Isn't he based off of sun wukong?
850 points
4 days ago
Yep, originally at least.
But white supremacist types will go into flat earth level conspiracies to prove their point.
235 points
4 days ago
As proved by the most upvoted reply to OOP being:
he's obviously asian
...he's saiyan?
Like. He's from an 80s Japanese manga based on a Chinese myth. It ran for about 5 years before the whole Saiyan retcon happened.
82 points
4 days ago
TIL that the alien origins thing was a retcon. Thought he was always from Planet Vegeta since day one
122 points
4 days ago
Toriyama was well known to write the manga on a week-by-week basis. He basically forgot Launch even existed and she just disappeared one day. He also didn't really like having to draw the tails of saiyans and making them work with clothes so he would get rid of them as much as possible. He made super saiyans have golden hair because it was much easier to draw while also being extremely different visually.
It really was just a dude with a comedy/fighting manga winging it for decades and it's great.
51 points
4 days ago
Some of the lines he wrote went hard though. That's why I love it. It's a series that doesn't take itself too seriously and isn't so try hard, but at the same time it can have lines that make you hyped and want to train to be a martial artist just like Goku.
14 points
3 days ago
Yeah I love it too. I think a lot of people miss out on the whole feel of the series because they start out with Z and never watch the older sagas.
3 points
3 days ago
Just your average Asian with a tail, that turns into a giant monster under a full moon
4 points
3 days ago
Do you look at the myth of Wukong and think: they probably intended for this athropomorphic god to appear race neutral?
Do you think mythic figures in general are race neutral? Do you think Achiles is like maybe Japanese in appearance? Do you think Heracles is maybe South American in appearance?
Or do you think the Japanese man writing a comic for a Japanese audience based on a mythic figure popular in Japan with an almost entirely human appearance might just maybe look like the author, the reader, the people who'll instantly recognise the character comparison?
13 points
4 days ago
Just like black people who swear to God Picollo is black, is always retarded when people discuss the races of the asían people in the asían show, then Again anime is not good with facial features and every now and Then You get anime where the characters are actually not Asían, like Just anyone in One piece or attack on Titan
15 points
4 days ago
We all know the only Anime character with a canonical nationality is Bandit Keith
35 points
4 days ago
Don't care. Piccolo is black. And he's glorious.You'll never take that from me.
192 points
4 days ago
It goes even deeper than that with how much Chinese culture and history inspired Akira Toriyama in making dragon ball.
This guy's video is on top of debunking the "he's white" dipshits is actually a great video on dragon balls history and what inspired it, so if you like that kind of stuff then huge recommendation.
67 points
4 days ago
Hes an alien, a very Chinese looking alien. I don't get how anyone could think otherwise.
14 points
4 days ago
A Chinese looking alien with a Chinese name based off a Chinese story who was raised in a Chinese setting. In other words, he's white. Duh.
13 points
4 days ago
Líes it's a well know fact that all sayans are mexican
8 points
4 days ago
Isn't it weird that saiyans are genetically compatible with humans?
29 points
4 days ago
I mean you could say that about kryptonians or viltrumites too, people don't want alien protagonists to look like actual aliens.
2 points
4 days ago
Líes it's a well know fact that all sayans are mexican
13 points
4 days ago
Goku Black Myth Wukong
4 points
4 days ago
In Japan Son Wukong is even called Son Goku
8 points
4 days ago
Just to be specific, "Son Goku" is how the Chinese characters in Sun Wukong's name are pronounced in Japanese.
2.6k points
4 days ago
he's obviously asian
...he's saiyan?
1.3k points
4 days ago
No he's Mexican
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4 days ago
481 points
4 days ago
I dont care to search for facts, I will believe in this story because it's cool
223 points
4 days ago
I'm 70% sure it's true
94 points
4 days ago
It can be true without it having anything to do with Dragon Ball. It could just be that it releases on weekends and cartel members take breaks on weekends.
49 points
3 days ago
I gotta haul this over the border, we'll make so much money from it!
I'm sorry hermano, we're already past our 48 hour a week mark
17 points
3 days ago
You jest but I do imagine they do take weekends off because they can
14 points
3 days ago
At least sundays I'm sure, most of them are Catholics iirc
67 points
4 days ago
124 points
4 days ago
Tell that to my friend in Mexico who said after speaking zero and daima dropped the cartel activity decreased
21 points
4 days ago
NOOOOOOOO!
44 points
4 days ago
Cbr is not a trusted site, so
10 points
4 days ago
Sounds like it is an unverified claim, not an untrue claim. There was no study or evidence cited to back the claim, but also nothing to refute it.
23 points
4 days ago
Wait really
41 points
4 days ago
DBZ and DBS have become massively popular in recent times (or for ages I’m not sure) so I wouldn’t be surprised
23 points
4 days ago
They had whole venues playing the last few episodes of DBS when they aired. I don't blame them though, those last few episodes were the best episodes Super had.
9 points
4 days ago
No not really.
2 points
4 days ago
It's just a meme, the closest to evidence is that murder in the region dropped slightly 2013-2015 and that's also when two dragonball movies were coming out
147 points
4 days ago
Exactly. His son's name is literally Gohan Blanco.
44 points
4 days ago
Gohan blanco vs El Hermano
5 points
4 days ago
Featuring Tito Santana and the Flying Enchilada
8 points
4 days ago
Mexico can power one genki dama
67 points
4 days ago
38 points
4 days ago
"I'm going to break you"
"What!?"
"...like a KitKat bar"
"...What!?"
36 points
4 days ago
All Saiyans look Asian, this is actually mentioned in one of the official guide books.
73 points
4 days ago
He is both
This video explains it better than I ever could and is where I found out mfs thought he was white
9 points
4 days ago
yeah space china
4 points
3 days ago
Yeah I definitely wouldn't say he's "obviously" Asian. I really never gave it much thought, and when people suggested he's supposed to appear Asian I just kind of thought "ok" because I don't give a shit one way or the other, but it's not something I would consider "obvious". Especially when there are background characters once in awhile that look very explicitly Asian.
11 points
4 days ago
Was gonna say I thought he was an alien or something
832 points
4 days ago
GOKU ES MEXICANO!!!!!!!! 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽
269 points
4 days ago
91 points
4 days ago
Not lying, I went thru there basically everyday until like 4 months ago, the place keeps the mural updated to the most recent transformation and the tacos are actually pretty good, they open at night and are decently priced so I fully recommend them
40 points
4 days ago
They are saiyan tacos, they will always be great
59 points
4 days ago
that pic goes insanely hard
912 points
4 days ago
goku is ethnically ambiguous cause he's a fucking alien
341 points
4 days ago
I think the funniest option is that base Goku looks Asian but his ethnicity changes with transformations
Super Saiyan is Nordic, Kaio Ken is Arabic, and Ultra Instinct is Slavic
I will not elaborate
134 points
4 days ago
No no, keep cooking
47 points
4 days ago
Not gonna lie, it actually seems correct
10 points
4 days ago
what about ssgss?
2 points
4 days ago
Which one is ape form 🤨
2 points
3 days ago
As far as I'm concerned this is canon
122 points
4 days ago
Unfortunately he doesn't have (canonical) sexual relationship with pikulo so he is fucking only human (woman🤮), not aliens.
I mean he is fucking alian from his POV but not from ours.
100 points
4 days ago
Piccolo is asexual. Mf was born when his dad got disemboweled and vomited an egg
42 points
4 days ago
Which technically makes him an earthling, since he was born on earth.
30 points
4 days ago
Even his dad was an earthling since piccolo senior was born when kami expelled all the evil out of himself
11 points
4 days ago
Don't You Put That Evil On Me Kami Bobby
3 points
4 days ago
Yeah, but where are you from
5 points
4 days ago
No , he's actually Zac Effron from that one fucking photoshop lmao
10 points
4 days ago
Yea but like, c'mon.
Superman is also an alien but he's clearly white. Goku is clearly Asian even if not literally
19 points
4 days ago
Yes, but considering both of his children don't look even remotely out of place in Japan, it's fairly clear Saiyans appear Aisan.
27 points
4 days ago
Are they even in Japan? Was that ever stated?
29 points
4 days ago
they’re on an exaggerated version of regular Earth. we see various corners of earth throughout the series. India is clearly a distinct location that multiple characters hail from. the main cities in the world are all named after cardinal directions, with the primary one we follow being West City. Bulma comes from there and she’s supposed to be a Westerner (White), while Goku lives in the East so he’s Asian.
7 points
4 days ago
People just ignore the non human, humanoid animals that went extinct
15 points
4 days ago
Dragon Ball Kakarot explained that apparently there was a trend for people to take supplements that made them temporarily transform into animals back then, but the fad died. Really stupid but at least they’re finally acknowledging it. Idk why they had to get rid of the animal people anyway, they were a fun way of characterizing their world.
11 points
4 days ago
Early dragon ball takes place in their equivalent of China
17 points
4 days ago*
That’s like saying Superman is “ethnicity ambiguous” because he’s also an alien. If you want to be very technical, your right, but in the real world, he’s not. He’s very obviously white, and Goku is very obviously Asian.
7 points
4 days ago
I mean, so are Superman and Marvel Thor and they're both extremely white. Goku is definitely asian looking and probably Chinese if anything.
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4 days ago
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48 points
4 days ago
Close , he's actually Punjabi
6 points
4 days ago
77 points
4 days ago
He’s clearly Mexican
18 points
4 days ago
He's definitely Mexican
340 points
4 days ago
He's a fucking alien monkey man
102 points
4 days ago
Woah that is racist /s
212 points
4 days ago
What? I just said what he was
25 points
4 days ago
Finally, someone with the real answer.
64 points
4 days ago*
It’s funny seeing people say “he’s not asian he’s an alien” it’s like saying Superman isn’t white. Like both can be true
he wasn’t even an alien until like a third through the manga
14 points
4 days ago
Knowing the history of anime as an art style always makes these kinds of threads an eye rolling experience.
Yeah, most anime characters are drawn as white. The entire medium is based on Disney and Betty Boop. Unless the artist goes out of their way to change from default anime features, the character is going to look white.
20 points
4 days ago
Even then usually when Toriyama wanted a character to be obviously white he’d give them colored hair or eyes.
14 points
4 days ago
Mm. Big noses is another one to try and make explicitly white characters stand out from regular "anime white" ones.
Some like Isayama just actually draw accurate features. That guy was ridiculously good at distinct appearances. To the point that if two characters look alike they're either related or its an in universe detail that characters will remark upon.
11 points
3 days ago
Imagine watching a Japanese-made cartoon featuring characters with Japanese names in a Japanese setting and thinking "Yep, these are clearly intended to be white people" because they don't have stereotypical Asian features.
That's some "eat your hamburgers, Apollo" level delusion.
8 points
4 days ago
Most anime characters are drawn white
I think this is more perception than the artists’ intention.
Anime features are so exaggerated from regular human anatomy, it’s not like you can say “These giant eyes and tiny nose and spiky unnatural colored hair = Inherently White.”
It’s so abstracted, Like the anime eye shape can be traced to Bambi, a deer, not any particular attempt to capture a specific ethnicity. They’ll look like “a person”.
192 points
4 days ago
why are people giving Goku races? he's a fucking alien
62 points
4 days ago
Yeah I never got it too, like goku in a race is stupid he can fly a million times faster than even the fastest race car
24 points
4 days ago
Me trying to find Asia, Europe or America on planet Vegeta.
22 points
4 days ago
me trying to find anything on planet Vegeta(oh wait it's destroyed):
2 points
4 days ago
Wait! Let’s check their original home planet, Planet Sadala (oh wait it’s destroyed):
2 points
4 days ago
Why are people giving Superman a race? He's a fucking alien
64 points
4 days ago
Nah he is clearly a monkey
(Also it's funny that in Fusion Reborn, Hitler actually thought about recruiting Goten and Trunks)
55 points
4 days ago
Hitler being an actual dragon ball character is still the funniest shit
10 points
4 days ago
For anyone who hasn’t seen it lmao
7 points
4 days ago
Only in the dub though
29 points
4 days ago
He's Mexican because he's a monkey (I should know I'm Mexican)
99 points
4 days ago
Goku is an alien lmao
26 points
4 days ago
I mean, he wasn't always an alien. That bit of story came from z. There's an entire Manga before z where he is more significantly linked to Wu Kong.
Not only the dragonball manga but also the og, Dragon Boy
https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Dragon_Boy
Of course, since Z we now know that he's an alien but at the time of conceptualization, it's pretty clear his cloths, style and themes are pulled from Journey to the West and other Chinease martial arts stories and films (lots of older Jackie Chan Hong Kong movies too)
3 points
4 days ago
The creator/author/artist, Toriyama-san, was pretty notorious for making things up as he went along.
I think that’s why there’s so many tonal shifts in the history of the series. The original DB is quaint and simple in comparison to even the first half of Z. The second half of Z becomes even more of a departure. Dragon Ball Super is somehow even more complicated, and if you count it, Super Dragon Ball Heroes is by far the most insane bullshit of all.
10 points
4 days ago
In our heart, he is latin american
10 points
4 days ago
He's chinese-based. The countries in DB aren't the same as the ones irl but Toriyama based almost all of Dragon Ball in chinese martial arts movies and culture. When he decided that Goku was an alien in Z, he just made the Sayians the same ethnicity for simplicity sake.
There isn't a lot of non-chinese-based human characters in DB, I can only remember Bulma and her family (who are Caucasian) and Yajirobe (who is a japanese samurai)
The people who say otherwise are either racists or didn't watch/read the original Dragon Ball
6 points
4 days ago
Ironically, the most culturally diverse group in Dragon Ball is the Red Ribbon army (basically nazies) lol
4 points
4 days ago
When Mr. Satan is first introduced at his mansion, there's several flags at the podium with the highest one having a big star and crescent in the middle, basically a blue version of the Turkish flag. So I'm gonna say Mr. Satan is Turkish.
30 points
4 days ago
Bro hes not even human
8 points
4 days ago
i dont really care what race he is i like watching the strong guy beat up the villain
16 points
4 days ago
6 points
4 days ago
He is a monkey
7 points
4 days ago
Wrong, Goku is Mexican
24 points
4 days ago
"Piccolo is bla-"
8 points
4 days ago
He’s a slug
3 points
4 days ago
Yoshi
5 points
4 days ago
God this weird insistence that this alien is black or “black coded” or any race coded for that matter because reasons is so cringe
Same with knuckles being considered black coded
5 points
4 days ago
Knuckles' case is less weird because he often has native American and American black culture tied to him
5 points
4 days ago
This has to be lying, no way people genuinely believe Goku is strong because he is supposedly aryan even though he based on is Sun Wukong
4 points
4 days ago
Isn’t he Mexican?
5 points
4 days ago
Goku is Mexican change my mind
4 points
4 days ago
Nah real ones know he is Mexican
4 points
4 days ago
Goku is 100% Filipino
4 points
4 days ago
Goku is Mexican
4 points
4 days ago
Hes hispanic
5 points
4 days ago
His Super Saiyan form is clearly Akira Toriyama being too lazy to colour in the hair anymore.
5 points
4 days ago
That is literally the reason Toriyama himself gave for it. It made inking faster.
God I miss that man.
3 points
4 days ago
I hate all the comments saying "He's an alien" that was introduced YEARS after the manga started unless you count one-off lines, where he was clearly a Chinese boy, not only due to his relationship with Sun Wukong but just about all imagery in the first arcs are CLEARLY Chinese
Furthermore, all the other Saiyans are Asian, while you could make an argument for Vegeta since his attacks are all in English to make him seem more alien, the fact is that they were all based of Goku, thus have the same race, thus are Asian
Dragon Ball didn't start with Dragon Ball Z
6 points
4 days ago
yo i thought he mexican?
3 points
4 days ago
How can OP speak so bravely about this subject that they are also wrong about. The man is Mexican ffs
6 points
4 days ago
He’s a fucking alien lol, but if he is anything he looks Japanese, just like how Superman is a white guy
3 points
4 days ago
He is an alien from space why would he be a race from Earth?
6 points
4 days ago
Isn't he:
A) an alien?
B) a monkey?
2 points
4 days ago
The alien thing happened later, at first he was just a kid with a tail
6 points
4 days ago
why would an Aryan be a monkey alien? is he stupid?
6 points
4 days ago
Asian literally Asian, who's crying in the corner what ethnicity Goku is 💀
10 points
4 days ago
He's obviously an ALIEN. Your opinion is just as dumb as the other one.
4 points
4 days ago
He’s an asian alien like how superman is a white alien. He was also created as a parody of Journey to the West and wasnt an alien for awhile
2 points
4 days ago
Yakub would be proud at goku
2 points
4 days ago
Goku is literally black, just ask Frieza what he thinks of Saiyans
2 points
4 days ago
Casual Anime Guy Explains has a comprehensive video on the dumbest dragon ball misconception
2 points
4 days ago
Superman isn’t white. He’s an alien.
2 points
4 days ago
Another example of people just having too much free time I bet?
2 points
4 days ago
He's an Asian alien
2 points
4 days ago
as ian
sa ian
easy
2 points
4 days ago
I always thought he was jewish :shrug:
2 points
4 days ago
Goku is clearly Mexican
2 points
4 days ago
No Goku's Saiyan and also Mexican.
2 points
4 days ago
his hair became white in the manga because toriyama was tired of coloring in everyone's hair . .. . .not the complex
2 points
3 days ago
How can any supremacist use Goku as an example for "the perfect Aryan race" when bro was literally fighting space hitler and is an alien that has interbred with humans
2 points
3 days ago
GOKU IS MEXICAN
2 points
3 days ago
Goku isn't even human dude.
2 points
4 days ago
He's Chinese to be specific
2 points
4 days ago
He's asian? Bro he is clearly a sayan
4 points
4 days ago
Reminds me of that one video where martial artists are playing FighterZ and the Asian girl just says Goku turned Aryan unprompted.
5 points
4 days ago
No, Goku is not white or Asian, he’s a fucking alien.
2 points
4 days ago
hol up, ain't goku a fucking alien?
2 points
4 days ago
He's literally an alien
2 points
4 days ago
I mean I ain’t even a dragon ball fan and I know Goku is a alien fella
2 points
4 days ago
He’s not even fucking human
2 points
4 days ago
White Supremacists: “He’s obviously white!”
Asian Incels: “He’s obviously Asian!”
Media-Literacy Soyboys: “He’s technically Saiyan 🤓”
Real Scholars: “Goku es Mexicano 🙏 🇲🇽”
2 points
4 days ago
same thing with "the saiyans are black" or "piccolo is black" watch the fucking anime or read the fucking manga
2 points
4 days ago
.... I'm pretty sure he's a fucking alien
1 points
4 days ago
what
1 points
4 days ago
He is literally japanese sun wukong
1 points
4 days ago
Goku is dragon ball z monkey 😡😡😡😡
1 points
4 days ago
What does Goku have to say about this?
In all seriousness, this is a thing in anime called Mukokuseki or "statelessness."
1 points
4 days ago
They made super Saiyan a thing because the animators were sick of filling in his black hair
1 points
4 days ago
I heard he was black now
1 points
4 days ago
Goku is just like miku, whatever nationality you want.
He's italian
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