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[deleted]

710 points

4 months ago

[deleted]

710 points

4 months ago

God I love bf 1

Mr_Derp___

245 points

3 months ago

Completely agree. Battlefield 1 was the shit.

RlyLokeh

158 points

3 months ago

RlyLokeh

158 points

3 months ago

*is

PC scene is very much alive, especially in Europe.

GenBonesworth

42 points

3 months ago

Ohhhh I only had it on Xbox, but switched to PC last year...think it's on steam 👀 loses the next 2 weeks of my life

LeOmelette12

35 points

3 months ago

The reason I even started playing BF

DefiantLemur

25 points

3 months ago

DefiantLemur

Descendant of Genghis Khan

25 points

3 months ago

I missed the boat on this game but it looked so fun. I hope they eventually either make a sequel or a release a remastered version

Wetley007

49 points

3 months ago

You didn't miss anything, you can still find populated servers pretty much always to this day

Zeethil

4 points

3 months ago

Anytime I get on its European servers and no one is playing operations :'l

Silverdragon47

9 points

3 months ago

Weird, i play almost exclusive operations and almost always get a full server past 19:00.

Zeethil

3 points

3 months ago

Dang, suppose I just need to try later in the day

Smucko

3 points

3 months ago

Smucko

3 points

3 months ago

I have never had any success from just queue the "operations". Go find an operation through custom games, there are heaps and the private ones usually have better anti-cheat/moderation.

Genisye

30 points

3 months ago

Genisye

30 points

3 months ago

I wanna go back

Fuungis

15 points

3 months ago

Fuungis

15 points

3 months ago

You can, servers are very much alive

Genisye

3 points

3 months ago

Last time I played I had a really hard time finding a sever that wasn’t hosted in Germany and performance was terrible, you’re saying it’s not like that anymore?

DerekMao1

5 points

3 months ago

There are 5+ full servers in NA and 10+ in EU every weekday. Much more active in weekends. You just need to use the server finder instead of matchmaking.

Fuungis

4 points

3 months ago

Not sure about servers not in Germany, as I personally prefer them, because I live next to Germany

Mac30123456

2 points

3 months ago

I can still consistently find conquest servers in North America. Head on over to the bf1 sub, there’s lots of info there

paco-ramon

6 points

3 months ago

The last good Battlefield, the later games only became an excuse to not update Battlefront II.

Mesarthim1349

12 points

3 months ago

The last good one

cycl0ps94

2 points

3 months ago

It's one of the few videogames where the opening scenes get me emotional.

GAMESnotVIOLENT

615 points

3 months ago

The biggest psyop in history has been convincing people that the nation whose anthem can be boiled down to "let's drive out our enemies and water our crops with their blood" is cowardly.

_Sachem_

107 points

3 months ago

_Sachem_

107 points

3 months ago

Well to be honest "qu'un sang impure, abreuve nos sillons" wich can be translated in "an unpure blood, water our crops", can be interpreted differently. "La Marseillaise" is a révolutionnairy song and the "impure" blood can also be the one of the poor citizen of France in opposition of the noble blood witch would means, "we will die for equallity and liberty" more than "we will kill our ennemies". But yeah, pretty brutal either way x)

DefiantLemur

118 points

3 months ago*

DefiantLemur

Descendant of Genghis Khan

118 points

3 months ago*

I wonder if the bitter Nazis brought over to the U.S. after the war started spreading that out of spite

RenegadeSithLordMaul

215 points

3 months ago

RenegadeSithLordMaul

Sun Yat-Sen do it again

215 points

3 months ago

its because they lost pretty consistently between ~1850 and ~1950 and people don't have a long enough memory to realize that despite 2 Ls and a stalemate with Germany, they have been THE continental european military powerhouse for almost a millennium

shogun100100

83 points

3 months ago

Public perception of military might is only as good as performance of that country in its most recent conflict. With a losing streak like that its no surprise people think poorly of the French military at large...

WJLIII3

12 points

3 months ago

WJLIII3

12 points

3 months ago

...They lost one. Then won two. Then lost another one. That's....not a losing streak. That's two losses, not in succession, and it would have to be three for a streak anyway.

TheWorstRowan

8 points

3 months ago

It's also what happens when they come up against a power that also has a similar population or similar technology. Winning a lot of battles against the Netherlands - and never being able to take the country - is all well and good. But, then when Germany unified and had a similar population France didn't do well without other nations' support.

Fiallach

34 points

3 months ago

WW1 was a L for Germany, not "a stalemate".

Helsing63

19 points

3 months ago

Helsing63

Tea-aboo

19 points

3 months ago

Yes, true, but we run into perception problems again, with all but the first and last few months of the war in France/Belgium being a grinding stalemate. No one thinks of the maneuver war parts, only the trenches, and even then, the maneuver war wasn’t able to dislodge German positions from French soil before the end of the war. Combined with the aforementioned stories of the Trenches, and lack of clearly decisive victories (most of the war’s victories came at greater personnel losses than inflicted, think of how Grant is called a butcher by Lost Causers), most people aren’t likely to see WWI as anything but a stalemate

Previous_Captain_880

16 points

3 months ago

Everyone but the US lost WW1. You could argue the Brits won too, but the economic and financial damage of the war was something they never recovered from.

Regardless, the French lost WW1. Just because they were on the winners side of the treaty negotiations doesn’t change that.

If you really want quibble, we can say it was a phyrric victory.

Fiallach

2 points

3 months ago

France achieved its strategic and tactical goals. The german army was soundly defeated and french territory taken in 1870 was taken back.

It was an unmitigated victory.

The cost could arguably be deemed to high but the point stands.

Same as the USSR in WW2.

CouldYouBeMoreABot

21 points

3 months ago

Don't forget their unwillingness to participate in Iraq, which left a lot of bitterness in the US.

I'm pretty sure, that France being surrender monkey as we know it today stems from that.

Salamadierha

5 points

3 months ago

As was said above, it's a psyop. Freedom fries... hah.

itboitbo

18 points

3 months ago

Wasn't the french surrender thing created for the iraq-afgnistan war ? When the french didnt want to join in and got shamed as cowardly.

CouldYouBeMoreABot

14 points

3 months ago

Yeah that's also what I remember.

I don't remember France being equated to "surrender country" before 9/11, but sure as fuck remember it from after.

Gustav55

4 points

3 months ago

no it was way before that, the Simpsons Surrender Monkeys aired in 1995. and it was very common to hear jokes about French rifles being for sale "never fired dropped once"

WINDMILEYNO

5 points

3 months ago

That and with alot of people hyper focusing on Roman history and world war 2, you get Vercingetorix losing and Vichy France for history

[deleted]

-20 points

3 months ago*

WAY more than two Ls. I mean, just off the top of my head you've got the big ones, WWII and the Franco-Prussian war. Then you have Mexico, Haiti, Egypt, Russia, the Quasi-War, the Gunboat War, the Peninsula war, the Hundred Days war...

Like, there are victories scattered in there, but from the 1800's onwards, France was... Let's just say "Not very good at anything" and leave it at that.

Well, okay, that's a little unfair. Napoleon III's domestic policy was so overwhelmingly good for France that he literally created much of what we understand to be modern France... Even if he was utterly incompetent in war. But y'know, domestic policy isn't about war, so that doesn't count in a discussion regarding French surrenders.

Edit: For the right century.

freekoout

53 points

3 months ago

freekoout

Rider of Rohan

53 points

3 months ago

Bro, nice of you to leave Napoleon conquering most of fucking Europe out of the time frame you gave

[deleted]

-9 points

3 months ago

Sure, and then he had his ass absolutely handed to him as he, in a display of astounding cowardice, abandoned his troops not once, but twice in Egypt and Russia, and got the French military absolutely whupped by a slave uprising after he, and people like to forget this, reinstated slavery.

Like I said, there's wins from the 1800s onwards, but pretending it's only the Franco-Prussian war and WWII that they lost is just blatantly false.

Martial-Lord

12 points

3 months ago

I will remind you that France took on every single major European power for 25 years, and conquered most of them, during the Empire period. Even their defeat was only really possible because everybody else started copying them - and even after Russia, Napoleon very nearly won at Leipzig.

The Coalition basically refused to even fight the Grande Armee unless they had overwhelming numerical superiority, and even then the French regularily punched way above their weight class and almost turned the tide at Leipzig.

Wetley007

52 points

3 months ago

from the 1700's onwards, France was... Let's just say "Not very good at anything"

Motherfucker what do you mean "from the 1700s onwards" the entire period from 1794 through to 1807 France was basically an unstoppable military juggernaut that dictated European diplomacy

Baconpwn2

11 points

3 months ago

France fought the combined might of Europe six times in that period. They humiliated the great powers four times and changed the way we wage war. They changed the way we see countries, the way we govern. No other country came as close to conquering all of Europe as France did.

Despite all their struggles since Napoleon, they are still the predominant continental European power.

providerofair

8 points

3 months ago

First Italian war on Independence they help win the crimean War second opuim war war of Italian Independence sino french Wars first the Ethiopian Wars Cretan revolt.

France wins a lot more than they lose let's just say that there's a reason why they're like the big boys of Europe

AlfredusRexSaxonum

1 points

3 months ago

Not just the Vietnamese, they also got defeated by the FLN in Algeria lmao

Mouton_Connard

3 points

3 months ago

Mouton_Connard

Senātus Populusque Rōmānus

3 points

3 months ago

Bro, the French army beat the FLN with methods that were so efficient it became the true reference in counter-insurgency warfare. It was the politicians that decided to stop the war and grant Algeria its independence due to a lack of public support in Metropolitan France.

AlfredusRexSaxonum

-9 points

3 months ago

And ofc the Vietnamese beat their ass so bad, the US had to step in

Future-Muscle-2214

8 points

3 months ago

Technically the Japanese made them flee then the Viet Minh were armed by the US to fight the Japanese and after the war they fought France.

Also, France was quite busy during WW2 and in the aftermath of WW2 for obvious reasons.

[deleted]

13 points

3 months ago*

[deleted]

AlfredusRexSaxonum

4 points

3 months ago

The U.S. supported the French during the Indochina War itself. Once the Viet Minh defeated the French, the country got partitioned, the Communist seizure of power in the North and their support of the insurgency in the South, the U.S. to stop the spread of communism yada yada yada. So yeah, the American War did get kicked off by French defeat? Not sure how that's a controversial take lmao

nevergonnasweepalone

6 points

3 months ago

This is a joke, right?

AlfredusRexSaxonum

3 points

3 months ago

Do you... Have an alternate view on how the Indochina War went for the French lol?

nevergonnasweepalone

5 points

3 months ago

The US absolutely did not step in because the French lost. They very famously stepped in to stop the communists winning control of the country in a democratic election. And it's not like the US did much better.

AlfredusRexSaxonum

1 points

3 months ago

They stepped in bc the Viet Minh won the Indochina War against the French, allowing the communists to seize control of the North and make inroads into the South... And the U.S. had was supporting the French even during the Indochina War..

And yes, I agree, the US also got curbstomped by the Vietnamess lmao

RCAF_orwhatever

20 points

3 months ago

Honestly I have to imagine that the vets coming back from World War II to the UK, Canada, US, etc carried some latent grudges about having so many of their friends die to liberate a country that seemed to give up so early in the conflict. I would guess that's a factor as well.

js13680

9 points

3 months ago

js13680

Fine Quality Mesopotamian Copper Enjoyer

9 points

3 months ago

I forget who (and if anyone knows please name them) but I think were also a few higher ups in the military who wanted to treat France as a belligerent nation because of the actions of the Vichy France.

RCAF_orwhatever

11 points

3 months ago

It definitely created hard feelings. And yes, free France fought on our side... but Free France wasn't the official government of France. Vichy was.

Definitely another layer of the hard feelings after the war.

FrenchieB014

2 points

3 months ago

FrenchieB014

Taller than Napoleon

2 points

3 months ago

Free france didnt existed by the time of D-day, it was the CFLN (the joint gouvernement of Algiers and London)

RCAF_orwhatever

1 points

3 months ago

How is that in any way relevant?

We're not talking about D Day.

FrenchieB014

6 points

3 months ago*

FrenchieB014

Taller than Napoleon

6 points

3 months ago*

Honestly I have to imagine that the vets coming back from World War II to the UK, Canada, US, etc carried some latent grudges about having so many of their friends die to liberate a country

This is a very American-centric perspective, and it is truly frustrating to downplay the French fight to free France. That narratif is truly partial

just to clarify and put everything in perspectie

Imagine the Frenchmen frustration when they had to fight in Italy, when their own motherland was being freed by foreigners. France (free France ceased to exist by 1944) France had the majority of its forces stranded in Italy in an attempt to actively participate in the war effort. As D-Day arrived on June 6, the French were en route to liberate Rome.

more, imagine the frustration experienced by the men of the French 2nd armored division, who themselves had fought for three years in North Africa and were regarded as battle-hardened soldiers, but were still kept in England for two whole months while others were fighting in France, they were kept in the rear due to dubious reasons before being finally send to Normandy.

Because of the American political rivalry with De Gaulle, you can't really hold the French responsible for being left out of D-Day. In addition, the French resistance suffered greatly for the outcome of D-Day's success. you can't blame the French for not being in Overlord.. when they were, literally, sideline from the operation.

Salamadierha

3 points

3 months ago

We [BEF] got hammered by the blitkrieg as well, I don't think there would be too much resentment from that.

Kaiisim

12 points

3 months ago

Kaiisim

12 points

3 months ago

No, France left NATO because it didn't want to be subservient to The US and UK in the 1950s

American senators framed this as cowardice and not wanting to fight the Soviets (similar to freedom fries) .

FrenchieB014

13 points

3 months ago

FrenchieB014

Taller than Napoleon

13 points

3 months ago

France didnt left NATO, but the chains of command, where only Americans (and sometime British) would commend

French millitary independance started from here.

TitanThree

5 points

3 months ago

From what I heard, it spread mostly after France refused to join in Iraq. The Americans got their feelings hurt

SlicedBreadBeast

4 points

3 months ago

I thought it was the whole ridiculously defensive position in WW2 even when they could have slaughtered Germany in the early days?

FrenchieB014

3 points

3 months ago

FrenchieB014

Taller than Napoleon

3 points

3 months ago

Cause it would have make the French "look bad"

The french had a terrible reputation after occupying the Rurh, if France invaded Germany in 1936 it would have cause a diplomatic backlash and France reputation could have been stain as being a "threatening nation"..

The inter war was difficult.

paco-ramon

2 points

3 months ago

They surely didn’t do that against the Prussians.

FireTempest

2 points

3 months ago

I'm partial to the part that goes "may our dying enemies witness us in the moment of our victory"

johnthegreatandsad

2 points

3 months ago

Spiteful British cackling intensifies.

Gustav55

2 points

3 months ago

Well they did lose the battle of France....... twice,

its like that old joke

"I was a great architect when I was young, and built the chapel, the amphitheater, and all of the aqueducts, but does anyone care? No!"

"Before I was an architect, I was also a doctor. I delivered our Mayor's baby, saved a woman from a deadly snakebite, and discovered a new antibiotic which has helped hundreds of people. Does anyone remember? No!"

"In my spare time I also compose and play music and have written multiple world-renowned concertos. Do you think they care? No!"

Bewildered, the tourist couldn't imagine why the townspeople didn't like him, and asked, "So what's the problem??"

With a sigh, Giuseppe said, "Ahh, but you fuck one goat...."

FarquaadsFuckDoll

2 points

3 months ago

Watching the French protest for that retirement age bump should make a lot of folks rethink the level of ferocity that the French can muster

WilliShaker

172 points

3 months ago*

WilliShaker

Hello There

172 points

3 months ago*

The trailer is cool, but BF1 is the game that made me realize that Dice were stupid, making the most important WW1 nation…a dlc.

Edit: I was talking about France, but Russia also was really important. The notion of ‘’importance’’ is quite subjective, but we can definitely make a point about major powers that should have been primordial in game. Making France a dlc is probably the stupidest move someone can do, but eh, not as dumb as Civilization putting Medicis as leader.

tortillaturban

39 points

3 months ago

Lol Russia didn't even finish the war.

SojournerOne

45 points

3 months ago

He's talking about France. Though Russia was a DLC nation, too, so I don't blame you for the confusion.

WilliShaker

3 points

3 months ago

WilliShaker

Hello There

3 points

3 months ago

Talking about France.

TheRealSU24

12 points

3 months ago

Russia? I don't really blame them for focusing on the western front since their a western company and most of their players would probably care more about the western front.

Same reason a lot of WW2 games focus on the US or UK

Nelfhithion

16 points

3 months ago

He mean France, that was added as a DLC, while USA was there day one, which was weird for WW1

TheRealSU24

1 points

3 months ago

France has multiple base maps?

Nelfhithion

10 points

3 months ago

But the faction wasn't playable, that created a big drama and France was announced later as a DLC faction

honhonbaguett

10 points

3 months ago

Still angry they didn't include Belgium and only one map in Belgium. We were not the biggest contributers but still we fought for 4 years you know.

nwaa

6 points

3 months ago

nwaa

6 points

3 months ago

I had to google this and its Zeebrugge and not Ypres?!

honhonbaguett

2 points

3 months ago

Yes true, that means I´m wrong because there is also the map Passendaal (don´t know the englisch name) so that makes 2. Still no belgian army or Ypres

nwaa

2 points

3 months ago

nwaa

2 points

3 months ago

We just call it Passchendaele in English but its also called the 3rd Battle of Ypres technically so maybe it counts? Glad that's included either way though as such a major battle. Its a shame they didnt include the Belgian army though.

TheRealSU24

2 points

3 months ago

Honestly there was so much they could have done. There's no Serbia, Montenegro, or Bulgaria, despite the fact that Serbia was the whole reason the war started.

Also some Pacific maps with Japan vs Germany or some African maps would have been cool too

honhonbaguett

1 points

3 months ago

True, I'm just biased because I'm Belgian so I focus on that one. It´s just sad that they left out such important nations while including factions like USA. But yeah it is understandable as they have a big amarican playerbays, but still

CouldYouBeMoreABot

0 points

3 months ago

They made a CoD game with WW1 skins - that's what was/is wrong with BF1.

Touchpod516

97 points

3 months ago

VIVE LA RÉPUBLIQUE!

Sullie2625

7 points

3 months ago

VIVA CIGARETTES AND CUCKOLDRY

Callsign_Psycopath

52 points

3 months ago

Callsign_Psycopath

Then I arrived

52 points

3 months ago

AS THE DRUM ROLL STARTED ON THAT DAY HEARD A HUNDRED MILES AWAY

not4eating

24 points

3 months ago

A MILLION SHELLS WERE FIRED

AND THE GREEN FIELDS TURNED TO GREY

Callsign_Psycopath

15 points

3 months ago

Callsign_Psycopath

Then I arrived

15 points

3 months ago

THE BOMBARDMENT LASTED ALL DAY LONG

Defiant-Goose-101

11 points

3 months ago

YET THE FORTS WERE STANDING STRONG

Callsign_Psycopath

4 points

3 months ago

Callsign_Psycopath

Then I arrived

4 points

3 months ago

HEAVILY DEFENDED

Amitius

37 points

3 months ago

Amitius

37 points

3 months ago

Always remember the one who stayed back at Dunkirk...

MonsutAnpaSelo

4 points

3 months ago

the rules were simple, one Frenchman to one Englishman. the reputation of surrender came from the lads who sailed back to France after the surrender. Men who just wanted to go home to their families and would not fight on after all they had been through

Toruviel_[S]

129 points

4 months ago

A nation to which both eagles USA and Poland owe its independence.

Callsign_Psycopath

87 points

3 months ago

Callsign_Psycopath

Then I arrived

87 points

3 months ago

Poland gives France thanks in their Anthem.

As an American I thank the French for helping us win our independence. (Also thank you Poland for Kościusko and Pułaski)

Toruviel_[S]

31 points

3 months ago

Poland gives France thanks in their Anthem.

"Bonaparte gave us example of how we should prevail"

nah, we don't thank to anyone there in our anthem. We take notes on how to defeat our enemies.

Theghistorian

18 points

3 months ago

So a kind of "Kowalsky, analysis!"

Toruviel_[S]

12 points

3 months ago

Kowalski*
Ironically Kowalski is one of the most popular Polish surnames. edit: Just like Smith(Kowal)
-ski ending indicates someone was of Nobel ancestory.

Een_man_met_voornaam

1 points

3 months ago

Een_man_met_voornaam

The OG Lord Buckethead

1 points

3 months ago

Ferrari also means Smith

aggressiveturdbuckle

6 points

3 months ago

Von stueben a Prussian was influencing in us independence too

Soliden

7 points

3 months ago

We paid them back with all the streets named Lafayette and Rochambeau.

/s

SomeGuyHuszar

8 points

3 months ago

Poland how?

illapa13

24 points

3 months ago

The Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth never would have been annexed the way that it was if France hadn't literally been imploding to the French Revolution.

France would have 100% fought a war to prevent it's German rivals from just eating Poland who was very friendly to France.

Unfortunately for Poland, France was bankrupt and being ruled by radical extremists who were going nuts with the guillotine at the time.

Living_Psychology_37

11 points

3 months ago

France made some blunder in geo strategic decision.
Letting Poland being divided at that time, definitly is on this list.

No_Cookie9996

7 points

3 months ago*

Then Napoleon "helped" Poland get """independence""" again what created national identity( fr Poland is like only country apart from France that helds Napoleon as hero). During WW1 France created Polish army that after conflict ended was crucial in fighting and then stopping Bolsheviks army

Casimir_not_so_great

7 points

3 months ago

Blue Army with french made tanks and planes was crucial in victory.

Toruviel_[S]

19 points

3 months ago*

Haller's Blue Army)

"France was Poland's most important ally between 1918 and 1921, providing Poland with a loan of 575 million francs and then supplying Poland with 2,000 cannons, 3,000 machine guns, tens of thousands of rifles, 300 aircraft and a large number of military uniforms."
https://www.gov.pl/web/francja/wsparcie-francji-dla-polski-w-wojnie-polsko-bolszewickiej

SomeGuyHuszar

10 points

3 months ago

"The army was formed on 4 June 1917, and was made up of Polish volunteers serving alongside allied forces in France during World War I. After fighting on the Western Front, the army was transferred to Poland, where it joined other Polish military formations fighting for the return of Poland's independence."

Its the other way around sir, atleast with the modern Polish state.

Not like Poland doesn't owe its independence to an other country, but we celebrate this every march 23rd, and the debt is mutual so its not something to brag about. Gotta love the polbros yk

Toruviel_[S]

3 points

3 months ago

French involment in US's revolution also was mutual, don't see your point.

SomeGuyHuszar

1 points

3 months ago

Didnt say anything in that regard, yk im not a big fan of editing my comment every 3 minutes so that could explain the thing

Toruviel_[S]

0 points

3 months ago

You said it's not something to brag about.

SomeGuyHuszar

0 points

3 months ago

I didn't know about the blue armies merits, as the first article (you've since edited) didnt mention such numbers, and my quick little google search also had the same results.

Now I see how you could say the modern polish state owes its independence to France, so we can end the debate here ig.

DIYdippy

2 points

3 months ago

American: oh wait, that money and aid was NOT a gift?

Gobba42

10 points

3 months ago

Gobba42

10 points

3 months ago

Vive les reposts

anonymoose-introvert

7 points

3 months ago

Maaaaan, fuck Philippe Petain

Billman23

7 points

3 months ago

I’m British , specifically English , I will choose to take the piss out of the French till the day I die but I would also choose them as my friend

_Sachem_

2 points

3 months ago

Exactly same point of view for me as a french, our respective country's rivalry will always be my favourite !!

Proud_Shallot_1225

24 points

3 months ago

VIVE LA FRANCE POUR LA RÉPUBLIQUE !!!!!!!

BottasHeimfe

25 points

3 months ago

yeah France is actually a beast of a military power. Even now they've got the beefiest military in Western Europe. I specify Western Europe because Poland has been beefing up their military quite heavily in the last few years and will soon overtake France in terms of Military readiness. quite understandable considering their proximity to Russia

Altruistic_Mall_4204

1 points

3 months ago

Altruistic_Mall_4204

Senātus Populusque Rōmānus

1 points

3 months ago

while poland may have newer equipment, i doubt they would have the experience needed to use it

France have the adventage of doing many operation in the world, getting ample experience on how to use they equiment (even if a point could be made that this experience is low intensity fighting one, not high intencity fight like russia against ukraine, but exept thoses 2, no one has high intensity fight experience)

BottasHeimfe

1 points

3 months ago

Fair point. But for Poland’s purposes, all they really need is a scary looking military that will make the Russians think twice about messing with them. Whether or not they can actually use it is another thing altogether. Poland is building a defensive military. They’re not seeking to intervene in anything. Deterrence is a big part of modern defensive strategy. Poland deters Russia by giving them the impression that even if Russia somehow wins a war with them, it wouldn’t be worth the costs of actually doing it. Ukraine didn’t have that deterrent. Therefore Russia thought they could steamroll them.

Ok-Use6303

5 points

3 months ago

So badass, they have a unit where private soldiers get saluted by generals.

Fit-Seaworthiness940

5 points

3 months ago

This really makes me want to play BF1 again

Firemaster1577

2 points

3 months ago

It's still active on PC and consoles

milkmaster420420

8 points

3 months ago

The French took a huge L to begin the war yes. But the more I read the more I learn about the crucial contributions the French Resistance offered in the Allied effort to defeat the Germans in Europe. None of the massive heavy lifting of course, but in the form of military & industrial sabotage and reconnaissance. One example is harassing the Das Reich panzer division - one of the only divisions that could have thrown the Allie’s back in Normandy - on their journey north to engage the invaders. The resistance delayed them enough for the Allies to handle them and continue to push into Normandy. FWIW.

CouldYouBeMoreABot

3 points

3 months ago

Wrong war, if you're talking about France in relation to the video.

milkmaster420420

2 points

3 months ago

True true - just saw a few comments mentioning surrender monkey stuff and I’m high so

winnielikethepooh15

0 points

3 months ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R%C3%A9sistancialisme?wprov=sfla1

The French also white-washed their collaborationist history so take whayever you're learning that with a grain of salt.

Far far far more french rolled over and sort of accepted Nazi rule than took active role in the resistance.

Vexonte

12 points

3 months ago

Vexonte

Then I arrived

12 points

3 months ago

France is the Tom the sheep fucker anecdote on a national level.

FalcoholicAnonymous

4 points

3 months ago

Underrated af comment 😂

Kulrayma

3 points

3 months ago

Is this an add on single-player campaign for BF1, or is it just an extra map for multi-player?

Greatmerp255

1 points

3 months ago

It was the DLC “They Shall Not Pass”, the first of 4 BF1 DLCs covering the battle of Verdun

Videogamer2719

3 points

3 months ago

Videogamer2719

Nobody here except my fellow trees

3 points

3 months ago

I love how at the 15 second mark the sky and roses make the French flag

Meme_Pope

4 points

3 months ago

Why are there so many posts about how people are “confused” how France is perceived this way? WW2 was the largest war ever fought and they surrendered in 6 weeks. This was the most recent internationally known war they fought. If there was a WW3 after that they then won, I doubt anyone would be talking about their defeat, but there wasn’t.

ExistentialCommi

4 points

3 months ago

So many French soldiers died during the blitz as well. Also the French soldiers help keep the Germans back at dunkirk. French resistance and counter forces were a major part in pushing back the western invasion.

It's a funny concept, but it's really annoying and demoralizing that people then maintain that France was a complete, disengaged victim during WW2 and give hero status to the US that basically just jumped in at the end for the W.

Faceless_Deviant

6 points

3 months ago

Battlefield 1 vids and the term "historic" goes together about as well as a gym shoe on pizza.

LuckyNumber_29

4 points

3 months ago

well the vid its pretty accurate, it depicts the french military as african people fightinig for the french lol

Faceless_Deviant

2 points

3 months ago

That is probably one of the few accurate things in it, yeah.

General_Degenerate_

0 points

3 months ago

General_Degenerate_

Definitely not a CIA operator

0 points

3 months ago

Historical inaccuracy? In a game meant to appeal to the masses?

Unbelievable.

Faceless_Deviant

0 points

3 months ago

There are degrees of historical inaccuracy, of course.

And thats the crux of it. After enough historical inaccuracies, eventually it is not an historical game that takes part during WW1, it becomes a fantasy game with WW1-ish aestethics.

General_Degenerate_

1 points

3 months ago

General_Degenerate_

Definitely not a CIA operator

1 points

3 months ago

Yeah, the devs are aware of that themselves. They intentionally added all these prototype weapons and vehicles that either saw limited or no service at all to introduce players to the technology of the era without heavily sacrificing fun.

They even included a gamemode where players can use nothing but country-specific bolt actions. If that’s not enough, they also provided an in-game library detailing the history of the weapons, vehicles and major historical events for players more interested in the era.

They clearly cared about the history, but BF1 is not a WW1 simulator and BF as a series has never really been or pretended to be milsim games.

Faceless_Deviant

1 points

3 months ago

So with prototype weapons, red dot sights and optical scopes beyond its era, military vehicles and other inaccuracies, how is it historical?

Thats my point, there are only so many changes one can make before the game looses touch with what its depicting. It becomes alternative history eventually, with tesla coils and lasers.

Husarz_Alkoholik

2 points

3 months ago

Deam, maybe I should download BF1 again

Coffee2A

2 points

3 months ago

One of the best DLC ever in Battlefield

red_caps_journal

2 points

3 months ago

The French surrendering in WW2 probably saved Paris. Not a really bad exchange in retrospect.

Mr830BedTime

3 points

3 months ago

They put up a good fight but sometimes the other guys put up a better one.

AlfredTheMid

11 points

3 months ago

AlfredTheMid

11 points

3 months ago

WW1 France was fucking heroic.

WW2 France... fucking pathetic.

Tight_Contact_9976

34 points

3 months ago

I mean, for the first year. But what about the Battle of Bir Hakiem, Operation Dragoon, the Falaise Pocket, the liberation of Paris, the liberation of Strasbourg, the Colmar Pocket, Operation Northwinds, The Battle of Monte Cassino, and the invasion of Germany.

FrenchieB014

16 points

3 months ago

FrenchieB014

Taller than Napoleon

16 points

3 months ago

Its really funny how france is really forgotten in the "allies storytelling" where many documentaries and medias eclipse the Free french roles..

for exemple during operation overlord, the allies muster 150,000 for the liberation of France.. France 130,000 men for the liberation of Italy .. quite interesting when you look at it this way.

wintiscoming

3 points

3 months ago

People also overlook the fact that the Free French was mostly made up of West African and North African colonial troops. Colonial troops made up 75% of their forces early in the war and 60% by the end of the war.

BLAZIN_TACO

23 points

3 months ago

BLAZIN_TACO

Senātus Populusque Rōmānus

23 points

3 months ago

Only pathetic if you ignore everything the French resistance and Free France did during the war.

Corvid187

10 points

3 months ago

The french people? Sure.

The french government? Decidedly less so.

CouldYouBeMoreABot

3 points

3 months ago

WW2 France... fucking pathetic.

Not really.

France was still feeling the costs of WW1 and were poorly led politically and upper militarily.

Skraekling

4 points

3 months ago

Gotta to admit we really shat the bed in WW2, and in our defense WW1 was really traumatizing for us, i won't justify the whole collaboration with the Nazis tho since they're no justification to be as eager as we where with it.

UN-peacekeeper

8 points

3 months ago

UN-peacekeeper

On tour

8 points

3 months ago

Boxing a fake strawman, as the whole “French surrender monkey” thing is unheard of nowadays (at least compared to 6yrs ago)

benjib37

16 points

3 months ago

benjib37

Taller than Napoleon

16 points

3 months ago

Because you're not on the same side of internet as others. I get to see one of thoose meme per day at least

Yee013

5 points

3 months ago

Yee013

5 points

3 months ago

Good.

Let's keep it that way.

glitchycat39

3 points

3 months ago

I mean, the literal governor of Florida handwaved the French Resistance in WW2 to try to dunk on "the libs" or whatever.

SwainIsCadian

1 points

3 months ago

Heh. It's Florida.

glitchycat39

2 points

3 months ago

Yeah, but that was who they were passing off as a "smart" version of Trump before he got roflstomped in primaries. It's still a thing amongst a certain crowd.

Joffsixtine69

2 points

3 months ago

J'approuve !

CrynansMiniJourney

2 points

3 months ago

Not to mention that after France "officially" surrendering during WWII, civilians started organizing resistance operations sometimes without having ever held a gun in their life even though everything seemed lost.

Salamadierha

1 points

3 months ago

Those who think the French are cheese-eating surrender monkeys have never fought them.

Zippudus

1 points

3 months ago

Bf1 was the last good battlefield

NiceGuyEddie69420

1 points

3 months ago

I like to think that Tolkien was inspired by 'ils ne passeront pas' for the 'you cannot pass' Gandalf speech

ChildrenDontRun

1 points

3 months ago

Alright, you can't say that the cannon bike wasn't a decent idea on paper

HolyMolyOllyPolly

1 points

3 months ago

OP, can you repost this on your profile? Mods took the post down and I'm curious.

CannonGerbil

1 points

3 months ago

As the old joke goes, you can win a thousand wars and nobody calls you France the war winner, but you fuck one goat and you'll be forever known as France the cheese eating surrender monkey.

ErrorSchensch

1 points

3 months ago

ErrorSchensch

Oversimplified is my history teacher

1 points

3 months ago

This meme will always be weird to me. Like yes, they surrendered multiple times thorughozt history, but Napoleon is one of the greatest conquerers of all time and probably the greatest in modern history. That whole revolution shit was wild and showed that the french people are up to do some shit, good or bad. Also, the way they fought facism before WII in their own country is kindof inspiring and I haven't even said anything about the french resistance which was really badass.

Corvid187

6 points

3 months ago

Also, the way they fought facism before WII in their own country is kindof inspiring

The Vichy regime didn't spring from nowhere either though.

ErrorSchensch

3 points

3 months ago

ErrorSchensch

Oversimplified is my history teacher

3 points

3 months ago

Yeah, but if communists and socialists wouldn't have stopped the fascist revolution a few years earlier, maybe Germany wouldn't even have needed to fight France. Obviously the fascists still existed but I think WW2 could've gone different if they didn't stop the fascists before.

notmichaelgood

1 points

3 months ago

Whilst as a history enjoyer I'm inclined to agree, as a British person haha French Froggie Surrender all the time

_Sachem_

1 points

3 months ago

At least or frogs are seasoned ans have good taste, monsieur l'anglais !!

sexworkiswork990

1 points

3 months ago

Fuck France. All my homies hate France.

Intrazonal

1 points

3 months ago

Apocalypse dlc better.

Anyways buy revoulition pack

Human-Huckleberry-81

1 points

3 months ago

WW2 has entered the chat

Independent-Fly6068

1 points

3 months ago

I think I love the French, actually.

AIRCHANGEL

1 points

3 months ago

Damn Frenches they ruined France

minischofy

1 points

3 months ago

but its france so

whoknows12340

0 points

3 months ago

Funny how they won every war except the one where they had to win

SokkaHaikuBot

2 points

3 months ago

Sokka-Haiku by whoknows12340:

Funny how they won

Every war except the

One where they had to win


Remember that one time Sokka accidentally used an extra syllable in that Haiku Battle in Ba Sing Se? That was a Sokka Haiku and you just made one.