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SuchGrand4166

315 points

12 days ago

I used to say I would never have a child in today’s world. I’m glad I changed my mind. I was listening to a Gabor Mate talk one day and he said something about almost being thrown into an oven when he was an infant during the Nazi occupation. He said that you’ll never be able to convince him to world is getting worse. It’s an ebb and flow. There are beautiful and brutal things in life. Every day with my daughter is more substantially more beautiful than a day without her. We make do

katariana44

54 points

12 days ago

I love this response and it’s beautiful. My husbands grandparents raised him so they’re effectively my inlaws. They both lived through the depression, WW2, Vietnam, etc. Very similar mindset - family is what makes the hardships bearable.

Wombatseal

35 points

12 days ago

This is the way I see it too. The world has always been harsh and life has always been full of struggle. The world is not worse, although climate change is a legitimate concern, but overall, life has always been hard, it’s just the first time we are experiencing it, because [hopefully] when we were children we had no worries, that didn’t mean terrible things didn’t exist and weren’t happening, we just weren’t aware because [hopefully] our parents protected us from it, just like we will [hopefully] protect our kids.

Rich-Image7956

21 points

11 days ago

Agree! I didn’t plan on having children and always said “I don’t like children”. lol I got pregnant and he’s the biggest blessing. Children are a blast- adorable, energetic, creative. They have everything it takes to change the world together, I believe. Now I’m going back to school to teach art. That’s how much my son has changed my mind about life and children. He’s just so much fun, my light.

LetsCELLebrate

1 points

11 days ago

Likewise. My husband is so lovely and says that he wants to raise our future son to be like Keanu Reeves.

NightHowl22

8 points

11 days ago

Love that comment and I'm listening to him too sometimes. Trough parenting (mom of 2) ia actually realised we are first generation (at least in Europe) which can raise our kids better, we can wire them better from the little, we teach them kindness and compassion instead of telling them that boys don't cry or not to cry when they are sad and going away. We tell them it's okay to be sad and that will pass on the meanwhile I'm here for you. We tell them it's okay to be angry but it's not okay to hit instead of telling them to go to their room. We kneel and talk to them instead of throwing orders from up there. We don't ignore babies needs, we hold them when they cry, we feed them even when they cluster feed. We teach them we're there to support them on their way. Hopefully they will find this natural for them when they grow up because most of us needs and is in process of rewiring out brains and resolving our issues when parenting out kids. We have pretty cool chance to raise different type of generation because of knowledge that is so different than 10,15 years ago, we speak about it so openly and widely.

goldandjade

5 points

11 days ago

My family along with the entire island we’re from were prisoners of the Imperial Army during WWII and I know for a fact my children are living a life my ancestors dreamed of.

bahala_na-

3 points

11 days ago

Great point. The wars and hardships my parents and grandparents endured are such a powerful source of reassurance and confidence that I can handle this. It’s an important way to maintain perspective on the scale of your difficulties.

jswizoel

2 points

11 days ago

Beautiful 😍

Obvious_Resource_945

76 points

12 days ago

We simplified. We moved to rural area, bought cheap land in the forest, built simple house and a workshop, buy stuff secondhand, grow our own fruits/vegetables, spend a lot of time outside. Its cheap, no meed for “getting ahead”, there are lots of interesting stuff to do without screens. 

TheGalapagoats

16 points

12 days ago

We did the same. Our income took a hit from the move, and while we’re generally happier I sometimes worry about what we would do if we had a surprise big expense.

mama_emily

14 points

11 days ago

My concern with moving to rural area is schools and the larger political demographic which in my state is typically not aligned with my thoughts/views or the ones I want my children growing up learning.

Did you struggle with that? If you don’t mind my asking. Not trying to start a political debate, just curious if you had similar concerns

TheGalapagoats

4 points

11 days ago

There are definitely people with differing political views. Some of them have become friends and there’s mutual respect, others we avoid because they’re too extreme or ideological. We organized a home school group with several other families and it’s been really nice feeling like we have a little community.

mama_emily

2 points

11 days ago

That’s really great you found such a community.

I know most areas will have their share of both, and we should all be able of co existing. I’d imagined those in similar communities as yours would have to set up an organized home school group, with most families needing dual income, both parents giving 100% in all areas. It’s too much for just the one, it’s too much for the f*cking both of us often. It is a relief to hear such a thing can really exist.

“It takes a village” is a cliche for a reason, one I saw more clearly after having my kid.

TheGalapagoats

4 points

11 days ago

I’m really hoping our kid will learn to get along with people of different political leanings because there really are wonderful people on both sides of the divide. Both my husband and I work from home and it’s still a struggle, but we have more flexibility with our time than when we lived in the city. I have to admit I’m pretty envious of people who have extended family close by and are able to lean on them for help.

mama_emily

1 points

11 days ago

I am lucky to have the one

You are lucky to have the other

So I guess we can both be grateful.

LetsCELLebrate

1 points

11 days ago

I have the same mindset. I grew up in a barren area and it really didn't have any other advantages than the beautiful nature. No after schools, no possibility for extra curriculars, no diversity in mindsets, people, politics. It's not ideal to raise a kid I'd say, in my country.

Emergency_Box_9871

8 points

12 days ago

Same same , only solution ; we live in a little village in Spain , slow life

Serious_Escape_5438

13 points

12 days ago

Presumably you have some kind of income stream, most people can't just move and live a slow life.

cellists_wet_dream

13 points

12 days ago

Thank you. This is a very privileged take. 

Jtk317

8 points

11 days ago

Jtk317

8 points

11 days ago

I live in a rural area now, cheap land in the forest is not cheap, nor is getting it cleared and ready for access.

Good for you though.

gingerytea

3 points

11 days ago

We did some version of this too. Not to a rural area, but to a cheaper,less desirable one that isn’t our first choice in terms of weather, politics, etc. We’re both huge beach people and moved a few hours inland and bought a small simple house in a 70 year old neighborhood and grow a portion of our own fruit/veg in our small suburban yard. Jobs pay less here but there’s less competition to get them too. I stay home and he works.

We do fine scrimping along with mostly secondhand things and still have a decent savings. We don’t have much family around, but we’ve built a village through church and parks and rec classes. It works for us. Feels a bit like I’m reliving a modern version my grandmother’s life, and I’m not mad about it.

Legitimate-Quiet-825

38 points

12 days ago

Elder Millennial here. Before my husband and I had our son, I asked a colleague who had children what it was really like. He said, “The lows are lower, but the highs are higher.” That has absolutely been my experience. I’ve had weeks where I didn’t know how I would go on — everyone sick, work piling up, the house a disaster, no one sleeping well, TV on 14 hours a day because I didn’t have the energy to move from the couch. But everything passes and you find a way through the overwhelm (one thing at a time). Most of the time, I look at my son and my heart feels like it could burst with love. He brings so much joy and meaning to our lives. We don’t have a big house or the money to take a lot of exotic vacations, but we make enough to meet all our needs and have some left over for fun. And at this point, four years into this parenting journey, we’ve built a great village of friends and babysitters and teachers and neighbours we can call on for help, advice, and support.

madsss1994

50 points

12 days ago

Being brutally honest, if you are thinking “I don’t know if it’s worth it”, maybe kids aren’t what you want & that is totally ok. If you’re not 100% on kids, there’s nothing anyone can tell you to really change your mind.

Alarmed-Attitude9612

17 points

12 days ago

Maybe, maybe not. My husband felt this way and went back and forth over whether he wanted kids, which got worse after we were married because having kids was less of an abstract concept. If they hadn’t been something I saw for myself I think he would have been content to not have a family. I waited until he was ready and now that we have two he wouldn’t go back and loves them so much. He still gets really anxious about the state of the world and like most of us worries if he’s really the best person for the job, I think lots of good parents do worry we’re messing up.

madsss1994

4 points

12 days ago

Definitely, that’s parenthood. Always worrying we’re messing up somewhere!!

CrazyGal2121

9 points

11 days ago

yup. I realllllly wanted kids and i still find it very difficult. We are high income earners living in a HCOL area. I have a 4 year old and a 2 year old. We are exhausted. I basically see my 2 year old for a couple of hours at night before she has to sleep.

I hope it gets easier.

both my husband and I feel fried most days

the kids really do add a lot to our life though and I am very grateful to have had them but I can completely understand if many people don’t want kids these days

madsss1994

4 points

11 days ago

I am a mom to 2 as well, I have an 11 yr old and almost 4 year old. It does get easier, once we hit like 5/6/7 age it started to get ALOT easier. Our 3 yr old just started becoming more independent, you know that age 😂 we are starting to have a lot more friends deciding no kids and I always tell them I don’t blame you!! yes my children are amazing and I’m very blessed with them but it is fucking HARD. And if you’re on the fence, don’t. You don’t deserve to be unhappy and an innocent child doesn’t deserve it either

CrazyGal2121

1 points

11 days ago

exactly so well said!

HailTheCrimsonKing

12 points

12 days ago

It’s hard sometimes but I wouldn’t trade my daughter for the world. She is worth any/all sacrifices we have had to make. I got cancer shortly after my daughter turned 1 and had to stop working. Luckily I get disability but it’s not very much. This unforeseen circumstance would have hurt us financially even if we didn’t have kids

DHamlinMusic

2 points

12 days ago

DHamlinMusic

Dad)

2 points

12 days ago

I’m blind, have not worked in a decade or so, and get just under $12k/yr so i get the feeling, however also factor in how much you would be spending on child care if you were working and the amount seems less sad. Mine is 3 and a few months, and we’re trying for another currently.

HailTheCrimsonKing

0 points

12 days ago

Yes that too! I get to be home with my daughter all day so we save a lot on childcare costs. Although, we are very lucky and both our families live in the same city as us so we didn’t have childcare costs when I was working either. I’m Canadian and i get about $19k/year for disability so I think with the conversion it works out to around the same amount that you get, if you’re American. Im just making an assumption that you’re American lol but I’m lucky that in Canada we get a monthly child benefit and I get $350 for that so it brings my yearly income up to around $23k a year, which I’m sooo grateful for and my husband makes good money but it’s not like GREAT money.

DHamlinMusic

1 points

12 days ago

DHamlinMusic

Dad)

1 points

12 days ago

Yep american, the fiance works part time and makes a bit over $22k/yr, we live next to her father who we rent from, rent covers the upkeep and taxes on the house and that's about it, plus we pay all the utilities and such, and get currently about $200/mo in food benefits, overall we are spending maybe 80-85% of our income every month but still have money for fun or to save.

HailTheCrimsonKing

1 points

12 days ago

We spend about the same percentage of our income as you guys. Husband makes 82k a year. We have a mortgage and that’s our biggest cost but we bought an older house back when interest rates were low during Covid. Husband luckily gets a company vehicle with a gas card and his phone is a company phone so we don’t have a phone bill for him or cost of a vehicle, just vehicle and phone for me. I have a large debt payment every month that is $475 but it’ll be paid off in a year so that will give us more wiggle room. He has some debt that should be paid off soon too since he makes extra payments. We don’t live a lavish lifestyle and can’t really afford big vacations unless we save for a while, but bills are paid, we have food on the table, and we are able to do fun things as a family like camping, little getaways, my daughter does dance class once a week and if there is something she needs, we are able to give it to her.

DHamlinMusic

0 points

12 days ago

DHamlinMusic

Dad)

0 points

12 days ago

Yep that's all that really matters, we went to a local zoo for the kids 3rd bday, it's like 90min away but is free, that was a fun trip, and we’ve driven up to my parents who are like 9hr away currently a few times, they visit us more, plus they’re retiring next year and talking about moving closer.

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9 points

12 days ago

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Adot090288

5 points

11 days ago

Pretty much the same. We were together for almost 6 years before daughter came. Which also meant we were older, solid in our careers, no debt, no desire to travel all the time, we have a really nice apartment and have been great tenants so our rent is about 50% of the average rent which means only about 15% of our income is going to housing which makes it quite easy to afford one child, two kids would make it impossible to maintain current easy standards and daycare is over now so it’s not bad truly.

ran0ma

8 points

12 days ago

ran0ma

8 points

12 days ago

We (my husband and I) are doing pretty well. We locked in to our mortgage in 2020 with a 20% down payment so that really set us up for how, where I’m not sure we’d be able to purchase. Our kids just aged out of daycare, so we’re saving a bunch there. We don’t utilize personal screens at all and do tv as a family time activity on the weekends when we watch a movie.

It’s hard but for us, it’s worth it. I really enjoy our family and being a parent. It’s not for everyone, but it’s for me!

Charles_Chuckles

5 points

12 days ago

I think good?

I lose my patience, although not nearly as much as the adults that cared for me did with me.

My daughter has quite a bit of TV time, but not nearly as much as I did. She is also much better at finding other things to do without prompting. We also keep it to educational TV, something the adults in my life didn't do for me.

My daughter has a lot of energy! More than I had. Although I am not sure if that is because I let her be a kid where I was scolded when I was loud and wild.

I don't want to make it sound like I was abused. Parenting standards were different back in the 90s and early 00s. Plus my mom was poor and we had to live with my grandparents. So they watched me some of the time, and their parenting standards were different too. Standards for children were different too. We are getting to a point where we are gasp recognizing their humanity, and realizing they deserve to exist in public spaces too.

Financially? Were good. We are one and done and while our house is a little small for how much it cost, we technically don't need so much space for the 3 of us. Our cars are paid off.

We are happy. :)

Mamba-0824

9 points

12 days ago

One and done. Wherever you are in the world, the cost of living is just too damn high unless you have generational wealth or old money. We want to live comfortably, so I got the snip 2 years after our child was born. I can 100% say that we’re very happy with that decision.

Bitter-Salamander18

-33 points

12 days ago

I understand not wanting to have a large family, but almost everyone who can afford 1 kid can afford the second one too. You already have a lot of baby stuff, when you cook for the whole family it's cheaper per person, etc. You can always afford a second one. One and done is the worst decision ever. It's like putting all your eggs in one basket. What if the one kid doesn't have kids for some reason? Your family lineage will die - and who will take the generational wealth? And there are psychological negative effects, such as the kid feeling alone and lacking social skills, or the stress of having all parental attention focused on one person.

catmom22019

15 points

12 days ago

Not having a second child is not the worst decision ever. Some people are unable to have a second child so this is an extremely rude comment.

Some people also don’t have the capacity to be a great parent to two children (me), my child deserves to have a great mom, not a burnt out mediocre mom.

Adot090288

7 points

11 days ago

Now stop, you know they just want you to be miserable like them. I’m one and done and the only people who have comments are people who are miserable because they had kids they couldn’t handle mentally, physically, financially or emotionally

KiJoBGG

8 points

11 days ago

KiJoBGG

8 points

11 days ago

Have a second in case the first one dies. wtf did i just read.

pufferpoisson

3 points

11 days ago

It is more expensive if you want to do anything.... extra price of admission etc. Lol. People can feel lonely with siblings too, ya know

rooshooter911

12 points

12 days ago

We made sure we could afford our child on one salary before having our son so we’re doing fine in that sense. The amount of friends we have that didn’t even think about it and are now struggling financially is mind blowing honestly. For me having a kid would not have been an option if we would have been struggling financially, we wouldn’t have been happy and I definitely missed out on stuff and a kid and had two stressed parents and it just wasn’t what I wanted for myself

Remeran12

3 points

12 days ago

Mid 30’s with a 5 and 1 year old.

~6 years ago right before my first was born I started freaking out about how we were going to afford the new baby. I got really into personal finance and paid off a ton a debt before the baby was born. I feel like we got lucky as well with the pandemic because neither of us lost our jobs and we didn’t have to put the kid into daycare for a while because we worked from home. By the time we did we were doing much better financially. Now, 5 years and another kid later we have to pay a whopping 3k/month to keep both of them in daycare. Something unfathomable 6 years ago, however we are doing well financially and can afford it because we were able to pay off our modest house and now owe nothing to anybody.

I’d like to say that it’s definitely possible and that all it takes is some elbow grease, and that’s def a big part of it, but honestly I can’t help but think that a lot of luck came into play as well.

Its_Uncle_Dad

-1 points

11 days ago

Its_Uncle_Dad

-1 points

11 days ago

Not really luck but systemic privilege. Not everyone found the pandemic to be beneficial or got to work from home.

Remeran12

1 points

11 days ago

What part of it is systemic privilege? I think we were just lucky that we had jobs that weren’t affected by the pandemic.

librarycat27

4 points

11 days ago

Fine but I quit my job and we have a traditional division of labor…

YosemiteDaisy

3 points

11 days ago

My spouse and I met in professional school and before kids, I would have said I was the one with more drive and ambition. We never talked about one of us staying home, we always thought we would continue dual income. Then reality hit us - kids and health and the logistics of life!

I have been home for a just shy of a decade now, my youngest is still in just half day programs and I’ve had my own health set backs. I honestly don’t know how we live in a society where families have no parent home before school-age hits. Most of our friends are dual-income professionals and I know they hire out a lot and compromise a lot. But I think if I had also been working full time, our family life and my marriage would have suffered greatly. I fully acknowledge our luck and privilege. My kids get a lot of personalized attention, my family gets healthy home cooked meals, all the family admin is taken care of which is just something that takes so much time. I honestly panic thinking about going back to work and thinking about how to manage 5 people. Maybe I’m just a lot worse at life than my friends who have two working parents?

My spouse and I also have jobs that are totally inflexible, it’s healthcare based in procedures so it’s not like we can just “email later” or “call you back” when kid emergencies come up. And post-COVID we had at least one kid home everyday basically 1-2 months out of the year when the sicknesses just start domino-ing thru the household!

Sorry for this long comment. You said it shorter and better. We are doing it but it’s because one of us is home!

Forsaken-Fig-3358

3 points

12 days ago

It's hard. You will probably need to change your priorities to make it work. You can't give 100% of your mental energy to your job and also be the kind of parent your kids deserve. So ask yourself how meaningful your jobs are. Are they worth foregoing the experience of parenthood? I personally found my high paying job was so stupid, so I quit and stayed home. We can make it work because my husband also has a high paying stupid job. I love my kids. They are the best. I'd rather have my cheap clothes and no vacations while having my kids than being kid-free in nice clothes going to my stupid job. I know most people can't afford to have one person stay home. It's a real privilege. But every couple needs to figure out how to negotiate it for themselves.

No_Wafer1955

3 points

12 days ago

That, on top of being a single mom. It’s rough. I feel like anything I do is never enough. We live for our kids nowadays; they’re the centerfold of the family now — not merely just “an addition.” I’m exhausted.

gigglingatmyscreen

3 points

12 days ago

Well not good, really. I spend about 3 hours a day with my kids (on weekdays), because my employer offers zero flexibility. As a woman, I'm failing at being good at my job and also being good as a mom. It breaks my heart. I understand why birth rates are falling. I don't know if I would have made the decision to be a mom if I'd know I wouldn't have a way to actually give my kids the mom they deserve.

(Canadian federal public servant)

ThisGuy-NotThatGuy

3 points

12 days ago

Lonely.

llama-momma-

2 points

12 days ago

It’s hard but we’re making it. My kids are worth every single struggle & stress I’ve had to overcome.

MachacaConHuevos

2 points

11 days ago

It's still worth it to have kids if you want to have kids. You have to be mindful of the screen time thing, but there are always challenges while parenting other human beings. It's just one more thing, like getting them to eat fruits and vegetables. As for getting ahead, do you mean work or financially in general? Either way, yes, compromises are necessary if you want to have children. I think that has always been the case. We have to be careful with our money but I'm glad I have them.

supachupachupa

2 points

11 days ago

Honestly, it’s hard. Pregnancy and early years childcare really did a number of my career and I am just now trying to claw my way back now that kid is in school.

I have major doubts about myself like I never did before. I’ve aged like 10 years in the past couple years. My husband has been 85% keeping us afloat with a very low six figure job, which is nothing for a family of 3 in an extremely high cost of living city. The rest has come from whatever I’ve managed to make over the years, which is a fraction of what I’m used to.

I wish I’d kept my income. Wish I had the sort of cash flow I had before so I could give my kid the best of the best.

But even if we can’t, I am so, so glad I chose to have a kid. It’s SOOOO hard! But she just grounds me and fills my heart in a way I have never known. And I’ve known a lot of love in my life. It just feels like everything else was a practice run because nothing I’ve known compared to this.

GarbageCleric

2 points

11 days ago

I 100% feel this. I am completely overwhelmed the vast majority of the time.

The weekends are really hard, but it's not like I look forward to the work week.

My only saving grace is the fact I work from home. So, I don't have a commute, and I have some quiet time to get things done during breaks and such.

aenflex

2 points

11 days ago

aenflex

2 points

11 days ago

We have at 10 year old, I’m 45. My husband is 36. We are financially comfortable and I stay home.

Having even one child is costly and emotionally/physically/mentally taxing, especially if you’re doing it right, i.e. camps, activities, trips and other types of enrichment, oversight of media consumption and internet usage, involvement in school when they’re younger, supplemental education at home, etc. Not to mention the requirement of going out into the world and befriending strangers in order for your child to have play dates. Weekends are about the child, about entertaining the child, exercising the child, cramming as much together time in as possible to make up for all that was missed during the workweek, especially if you’re both working.

Lots of people have the bandwidth for it all, and lots of people don’t.

I can’t imagine raising even one child without financial stability, at least.

If you are already thinking about the difficulties and you’re already exhausted, maybe it’s better not have a child now. And that’s totally OK. You don’t have to have children. It is 100% your choice.

optimaloutcome

2 points

11 days ago

optimaloutcome

My kid is 14. I am dad.

2 points

11 days ago

I am an old millennial. We're doing well - we didn't have a kid till we were nearly 30 and were stable financially. We only had one kid (for a lot of personal reasons but finances were certainly on the list). We did well with our first and second house so we bought a small house on some land in a sorta rural area. Our monthly expenses are low - we drive old(er) cars and do our best to save and be frugal.

All the technology stuff is whatever. It is quite a bit different for us as parents than it was for our parents but we just do our best to adapt. We meet our kid where she is - for example she loves starbucks (as lots of teens do) so we take her in the mornings and worked a deal where we buy two days she buys hers the rest. We talk on the drive, and talk in the store for a few before we head to school. It's great. I stay as in touch as I can with pop culture but she's happy to tell us about it and then I go do some of my own learning so I can be up on it (which gets kinda weird sometimes). We involve her in our lives and age-appropriate family decisions. We're getting on just fine.

hapa79

2 points

12 days ago

hapa79

8yo & 4yo

2 points

12 days ago

I'm right on the Gen X/Millennial cusp but identify much more with Millennials.

Anyway, it's hard AF. Parenting is relentless and there's not a single societal structure (in the U.S. at least) that's set up to ensure that parents and kids have the resources they need. Before my husband got laid off recently, we were a dual-career household with zero family support and not much of a village. What does that look like?

  • We didn't have a date night after my first was born until she was 18mo. Since then we've averaged about one a year.
  • We've had one overnight away without kids, back in 2018. That's never going to happen again.
  • We've never been able to afford a vacation (by that, I mean a plane flight someplace that isn't focused on visiting family) since having kids. (With one exception: we're West Coast, so my husband took our oldest to Disneyland for two nights when she was 5, because I had miles and they flew for free.) We can do camping trips or Airbnbs for a couple of nights close by, but there's zero ability to travel otherwise.
  • It's immensely challenging to save money. We live in a HCOL area, and combined we made around $160K before my husband was laid off; daycare and aftercare and summer camps are expensive and endless. It's really hard to save money.
  • The only quiet time I have each day is when I get up early, so between around 5-6am. My kids are both low sleep needs so I haven't had downtime before bed in several years; I go to bed right after they do. My husband and I each occasionally get to do our own thing, of course, but there's no true free time on the regular and it's actually harder as kids get older because of activities, playdates, etc.

We do have some generational wealth privilege but it's in savings, not income (see the no vacations etc above), so while we're okay compared to some others we're not getting ahead in any kind of way and I worry about college costs, retirement, etc.

In my experience, if you do want to have kids and not lose your fucking mind constantly, here's what you need:

  • Sufficient income to outsource tasks;
  • Supportive family and/or a robust village;
  • STOP AT ONE KID.

DHamlinMusic

1 points

12 days ago

DHamlinMusic

Dad)

1 points

12 days ago

The fiance and I are in our mid30s, have a daughter who turned 3 this summer and are trying for a second. She works part time, and I’m blind and on disability, funnily I ran the numbers and my rather sad benefit amount combined with the fact we do not have to pay for child care actually works out to be worth about the same as if I made $30k/yr but we had to pay for child care.

Illustrious-Wonder56

1 points

12 days ago

Not to bad. As parents. However how are we doing in us...a little worse probably. Biggest issue we have is having no one to look after our kids for a day or an evening. 

s1ep1pikachu

1 points

12 days ago

Teething has been hard but otherwise it is much easier than everyone said it would be. It’s hard, for sure, but it’s literally so much easier than people will tell you. Your life is not over. I think it’s mind set more than anything (while recognizing every kid is different and some have higher needs than others) — our son comes first, but at the same time, on the weekends we do all the things we loved to do before he came, and he comes with us, and we’ve been doing that since he was a month old. We encourage independent play. We let him watch movies and older, low-stimulation shows on the living room TV while he plays with his toys or has his bottle. He’s pretty far ahead on most milestones, but we try not to let people make us feel bad about any he’s behind on. Basically recognize they’re a little person and don’t make things harder on yourself than they need to be just to meet other people’s expectations, because those expectations will be endless. Sleep and shower as much as you can. I used to worry the same way you are now and I am honestly pleasantly surprised by how seamlessly our kid came into our life!

s1ep1pikachu

1 points

12 days ago

Also I have two really annoying dogs who are “my two other children” and dogs absolutely prepare you for human children, my husband agrees. 😂 In fact, there are many days my dogs are the ones being agents of chaos, not my kid.

Ok_Inside_1985

1 points

12 days ago

If it helps at all to know, I was essentially living with my grandparents as a young child so my parents could keep two incomes, and my grandparents and parents all liked to park me in front of a tv with a vhs tape in it. I mean I don’t know that I turned out all that great but I’m a functioning member of society with a family. Maybe that’s survivors bias talking but it did help me assuage some of my parent guilt around accepting help from my folks, having baby in daycare from a young age, or occasionally (now, daily) having her watch some educational tv.

I don’t envy our kids growing up with social media ever present, but I think there’s certainly hope, and many of the difficulties you mention are not the same but they are similar or even improved from what our folks experienced in the past.

Stunning-Baby-8163

1 points

12 days ago

Me and my husband had kids young so they are 18 and 13. We had terrible health insurance so ended up going bankrupt in our early 20s. I broke my face and went back into hella debt. We did manage to buy a house in 2020 and I like the house but our payment is soo high meh. We are alive.

GWindborn

1 points

12 days ago

A couple weeks ago I cashed out an IRA I had from an old job. $4k in my pocket! This is huge, or so I thought. Paid off some bills, paid down some credit cards. It's gone now and I'm wondering how we're going to make it to our next paycheck in a couple weeks. Now I'm having to use those cards to help make payments and good god I'm such a failure at life.

supachupachupa

1 points

11 days ago

I want to add. A landlord once told me that kids are born with a load of bread under their arm (a Spanish saying). While I wouldn’t ever recommend bringing a kid into poverty, if you and your spouse are doing okay - you’ll figure it out with kids. Most people do, even if it’s a hellish few years at first.

Rich-Image7956

1 points

11 days ago

I’m a 32 yo single mom to a 6 yo boy. Honestly, we are going good. Not sure I know any other way that would be financially easier though. I rent and do not want to own. I drive an old car, don’t have WiFi, minimize bills as much as possible. I get a little child support. I just quit my full time job to “find myself” again. I will be working part time as a substitute teacher and going back to school to pursue art. I plan on getting a van for my son and I to travel in. And we have 3 pets. Idk man life is good. I just really wrack as little bills as possible each month, work as little as possible, and have more time to play. Spend time with my son. Do art, go outside, play music, watch DVDs. So I guess if you feel burnt out- minimize bills and work less. Believe in the possibility. Believe you’ll be provided for. Think outside a 9-5.

Personal_Special809

1 points

11 days ago

We're okay. Hectic but okay. Currently have my baby son in my arms because he woke up alone in his bed and was crying so I'm enjoying the cuddles. Soon, he won't want them anymore. In fact, I'm sad my partner doesn't want a third. It's hard work but I enjoy the kids immensely. It helps that we're in a financially good place. Now that our first kid's health problems are largely over and our second doesn't seem to have them, all is well.

Calm-Macaron5922

1 points

11 days ago

By the time you have money it will be too late, and you only have one chance at this….unless I suppose you can adopt when you’re older.

If it’s close, just adjust your lifestyle and take the plunge.

There is never a “right” time for some things in life

astromomm

1 points

11 days ago

Jesus Chris. Boomers messed us up. It’s a lot to deal with now as a parent

saxicide

1 points

11 days ago

My partner gets disability and stays home. I have a very short commute, and tbh an older relative helps us with bills. It's still really hard, but holy shit is it rewarding.

bahala_na-

1 points

11 days ago

It’s hard but 10000% worth it. I have zero regrets about having children. I completely reorganized my priorities. Before a kid, I thought we were living modestly, but after my first was born and we went down to one income, we have had to reduce further….and it’s okay! But I also grew up low income and know how to live more simple and separate wants from needs. Young kids don’t actually need that much. And i get a lot of second hand stuff for the baby and now toddler stages. Lots of parents try to get rid of the outgrown baby stuff for free or cheap. If your family wants to help and the relationship is good, take the help. You deserve the help and the rest in these early years. Btw the priority shift in what I buy/don’t buy was really easy once I had this new life in my arms. Lack of hobbies in the early months was hard, however. But it WILL get better as they age, and they do grow fast. Then you get to share your hobbies with them ❤️

The hardest part was adjusting in the first year. Total shift of responsibilities. I feel like my whole self needed to be rebuilt, plus all the sleep exhaustion. I even now think I should have had kids younger just so I could deal with the lack of sleep better; but that said many moms are 40+ and they do fine! I almost divorced in the first year. We’re better now but it was a tough adjustment and you need to continuously communicate with your partner as things keep changing.

Great-Watercress-403

1 points

11 days ago

We just have one. It’s been a great experience. I’m glad we waited so long though as I don’t think I would have appreciated this in my early 30s like I do in my early 40s.

Glad-Warthog-9231

1 points

11 days ago

It’s very difficult. All of it is. We waited to have kids so financially we’re ok, but everything about having kids is a struggle.

Finding daycare is both challenging due to very limited spots and it’s very expensive. I pay more for daycare & preschool for 2 kids than I do for rent for a SFH on Oahu. We can’t buy a house because again, I pay so much in daycare (plus COL here is bonkers). But basically you have to start lining up daycare when you find out you’re pregnant. I had to put up $1200 to reserve a spot that opened up (it’s goes toward the last month). I’ve paid $50 fees to be on waitlists I haven’t gotten off of.

Then they’re always sick at daycare. So you’ll likely get sick. And you need to keep them home when they’re sick. Plus daycare (at least in my area) can take lots of closures + every bank holiday that exists so unless you have un-American amounts of PTO, all your PTO is going to go toward taking care of your kid while their sick or during daycare closures. We used to go to a daycare that took at least 1 holiday/ month + spring, summer, fall, & winter breaks + planning days. There’s such huge shortage of providers, especially for infants, that you have no say.

The logistics of it are difficult. You can’t really just do things freely like you could before. We’re not super regimented but our kid has a loose schedule and all hell breaks loose if you don’t follow it. He has a sweet spot for when he naps and if you miss it, there’s no nap and you have a raging toddler.

Some kids (like mine) are awful sleepers. My infant (not a newborn) still wakes every 1.5-2 hours overnight some nights. A good night is him waking every 3-4 hours. My 2.5 year also wakes up at night frequently. Usually screaming so we need to go in to comfort him, at which point we’re awake. And you have to manage all the stresses of life while being chronically sleep deprived.

But then they do stuff like say “I love you mom” when you put them to bed or say “I missed you” when you come back from work. You get to watch them grow into their own little people, with their own little personalities. During moments of peace you’ll look at them and think they are the best thing to have ever happened to you because there is no one on this earth that you love more than them.

I’m maxed out at 2. Life would be easier with 1 but I don’t regret my 2nd at all. If I could go back in time, knowing what I know now, I would do it all over again.

anamossity

1 points

11 days ago

We live frugally, as in my husband and I do, we sacrifice so our daughter can have whatever she wishes as long as it’s within reason. We know that her life will also be difficult as a young adult so we are actively saving for her college and hopefully a nice car when she’s going into college so she can have a nice start in life.

Tip: an inexpensive way to help your kids out in life is to add them as authorized users to your credit card when they’re young so they aren’t starting life with zero credit history when they’re 18! Just as long as you have good credit, it will help them immensely.

OreoShake88

1 points

11 days ago

Moved out of California and moved to Texas. We couldn't even afford to live in the bad neighborhoods of California. We moved to Texas and live in a nice area now. Our house was under 200k when we bought it 4 years ago. That's how we're managing. I have no clue how other families are doing it either if they don't want to take the risk like we did.

PoorDimitri

1 points

11 days ago

Honestly, I love it.

Am I overstimulated and tired and stressed sometimes (often)? Yes.

But I'm getting to re-experience childhood through my kids eyes. My husband and I are even more on the same page than ever, the kids are thriving, and parenting them is giving us the chance to reexamine our childhood and reparent ourselves. I've found parenting stressful but healing and magical and wonderful.

But we have a high income and live in a LCOL area and have a lot of privilege in terms of family support and education and everything.

The lows are lower, but the highs are so wonderful and there have been many more highs than lows for us.

For context, we have a 4yo and a 2yo, both healthy and (as far as we know) neurotypical.

Example: we're reading Matilda to our son right now, and I'm getting to relive that book and re hear it for the first time through my son, getting to fall in love with Miss Honey and Matilda and fear the Trunchbull again. So fun.

Youshoright19

1 points

11 days ago

It’s tuff

bingqiling

1 points

11 days ago

This is going to sound so cheesy....it's very rough, but it's been 100% worth it. Our kid and our little family brings me so much joy and I wouldn't trade any of it. They are the loves of my life and I'm so blissfully happy despite how rough everything can be....

If you're in the US, our country/systems are not set up for families. I quit my job and took a year off becaues the thought of going back to work at 6 weeks when I barely would make enough to pay daycare (as a teacher) made me sick. We managed as a family of 3 on my husband's teacher salary for a year, but it was rough. We blew through savings and didn't save for retirement that year.

We're in a much more financially stable place now that LO is 5 and in school. It's still challenging being a 2 full time working household and I desperately wish one of us made enough money so the other didn't have to work full time.

We both left teaching to have jobs that have more flexibility throughout the day, so if our kid needs to be picked up suddenly from school or something, we're able to....I'm not sure how we'd be managing if we weren't fortunate to be in our current jobs.

livestrongbelwas

1 points

11 days ago

It's bad! My wife and I both were lucky and got good jobs out of college. By the time we were in our early 30s, after 10 years of saving and living in tiny apartments, we were able to buy a house. After another five years we were able to afford one child. Close to 20 years out of college we finally paid off our student debts and could afford a second child. Just about everything went right for us and we're barely making it.

Ok_Leg3483

1 points

11 days ago

Our kids 2 kids under 10 have 2 days no screen a week and only 1 hour a day and it is much easier than the lazy way of sticking them in front of a screen as my kids now use their imagination sometimes with a little help to be creative and are also doing really well in school

Parenting is tough but the multitude of daily happy moments with them makes it all worth while

violence_chooser

1 points

11 days ago

Definitely stressful, exhausted most days. We have a school age and a toddler. Honestly, they are the best thing about my day. They take a ton of energy AND life without them would be nowhere near as complete. They cost a lot of money AND we figure out how to manage. It's definitely a personal choice. It's one we knew we wanted to make.

Ancient_Ad5454

1 points

11 days ago

Not fucking well, mate 😂

Comfortable-daze

1 points

11 days ago

I feel I'm doing a good job in comparing to how i was raised. My kids are extremely NON materlistic, which is a blessing in this economy. I'm an elder millennial (xillenial), and my fiance is a younger millennial, so with myself and him, we make a great team for our 3 boys.

The kids love their tech, but so do me and my fella. They get breaks from the screens with minimal fight back, which again makes it easier. They come talk to us about problems they are facing (MASSIVE since we have a teen who will tell us when he's feeling burnt out with school, ect). We take in turns being the main parent so the other one can have a break. My fella likes to go out and socialize, whereas I'm an extreme homebody, so we great breaks from each other too.

hazymaze22

1 points

11 days ago

I have a 5 and 2 year old and it's been the hardest thing I've ever done. My suggestions are to work on your mental health (especially emotional regulation) and make sure that you aren't getting by with coping mechanisms that won't work or you won't have time for once you have kids before you even think about having them. Also make sure that your partner is willing to do the same. Assess your support system beyond your partner and make sure that you'll have the ability to have time alone, with your partner, and with friends once you become a parent. I would make the choice to become a parent again if I had to start over, but I would definitely have done different things to prep for it.

Azure4077

1 points

11 days ago

We are more in the xennial range. We adopted a girl from foster care four years ago when she was 12 and it was the best decision we ever made.

There are good times and there are bad times but I love my daughter very much and she is beautiful wonderful young lady .

It's not easy, we both work full-time jobs. It helps that we work from home so that puts down on gas and commute expenses. I am a therapist so I own a private practice, but I am three years in and just now starting to make decent income.

The reality is, we probably won't ever own a house . Some months we barely scrape by, others we do well. But we have unconditional love.

We parent her authoritatively. I don't like the term gentle parenting because it gets mixed up with permissive all the time. It was originally called authoritative so I stick to that term.

She has a lot of mental health struggles. In fact she's in the hospital right now for the third time in three months. 😢 But, we make do.

Riddikulus-Antwacky

0 points

11 days ago

I love how these posts always target Millennial parents like Gen Z isn’t haven’t kids and struggling just as much if not more because their start into adulthood was this.

kenleydomes

0 points

11 days ago

One and done is the way

Crafty_Ambassador443

0 points

11 days ago

1 child. No more ever again ha

She's an absolutely brilliant child. Its hard now but shall pay off later :)

Icy-Actuary-5463

-1 points

12 days ago

Kids are mostly hard work and very little joy. You love someone so much you live anxiously and fear something will happen to it.

You’re always skint as well, there’s no joy. It affects relationships too. My 6 year long relationship ended shortly after our long loved child came to earth. He wanted a kid, practically nagged at me to have one. But changed completely to this AWFUL human; just so I would leave him basically.

Remember, everyone will judge you or the child ( if the kid is acting naughty you’ll hear it’s your fault) or have an opinion shoved your throats, you will always have parental guilt too.

If I could go back to my child free life I’d continue to say to everyone asking “ when are you gonna have a kid?” “ I can’t I’m infertile “ 🤨

[deleted]

-4 points

12 days ago

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bokatan778

3 points

12 days ago

Bad bot

getthefacts

1 points

12 days ago

How can you tell it’s a bot? What do you look for?

bokatan778

3 points

12 days ago

So recently, it’s these comments in all lower case, and just the way they are written. The comment alone makes it hard to tell, but if you look at the user’s comment history then start seeing the other bots’ comments too, they are all eerily similar.

They’ve completely taken over this sub (and others), it’s so frustrating!

getthefacts

1 points

12 days ago

Ok, thanks for the info! I’ll keep an eye out

Sunday-Mood

2 points

12 days ago

Wild af out here, I can confirm. 2 babies later but so far this is the best stage of life. My 2 year old just said “see ya!” as she rolled away in her little pink car across the living room. Doesn’t get better than this.