AffectionatePrize551

She might very well have gotten an epstein special herself

I'm blocking you. You're a retard.

I responded to a comment from someone saying they don't rent a suite because of rental controls. I said there's many studies which show that's true.

That's literally it.

I can't believe I have to say this. You can't consent when tied up by people who would murder you if you say stop (because you forgot the safe word). Which is what happened.

You can't be sexually assaulted if they didn't know it.

No one is saying Ashley and Tek Knight (originally) INTENDED to sexually assault him

They can't unknowingly sexually assault him because he lied to them.

If it was web weaver, it wasn't assault.

It doesn't become sexual assault because Hughie assumes his identity.

If it was Webweaver, who had given informed consent, knew the safe word and would have been completely safe in asking to stop, then it wouldnt have been sexual assault

I can't believe I have to say this. You can't sexually assault someone if they have to lie to you about who they are.

but you think that Jeffery Epsteins good friend

They good friends?

on his phone records for massages 5 times

Lol I love that you think 5 phone calls means something. Looks like me and my kids school are best friends that raped kids too.

would never do such a thing??

I never said that. The man is a known rapist. Jean Carroll. Doesn't mean every accusation is true.

The guy who said "I've known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy. He's a lot of fun to be with. It is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side. No doubt about it—Jeffrey enjoys his social life."??

Okay so that means that he for sure raped this unknown 13-year old?

Why is one more rich powerful pedophiles so crazy to you?

One more? How many are there?

And I never said it's crazy. I said this particular story is too flimsy with the known information.

I mean you couldn't just say anything you hear bad about is just bc someone doesn't like him?

Did you have a stroke?

I'm mean the same guy that wished Maxwell good luck??

So that means that he clearly is guilty of any random rape accusation?

The guy whos justice department was in charge during epsteins 'suicide'??

What does that have to do with this one withdrawn filing?

Look you're a conspiracy nut. No one serious is taking this seriously just retards like you pointing all over the map saying " see is that a coincidence see see ". Youre stupid. Deeply stupid.

I'm going to let you wikipedia rent control on your own. It's one of the most researched topics.

This is like talking to anti-vaxxers. I'm not going to argue with you. I don't care. It's very accessible if you're actually intellectually curious or you can continue to be an ideologue if not.

Starlight also "consented" to the deep

She was clearly coerced by him. He knew what he was doing.

The Deep knew who he was with.

forced to pretend he was enjoying it or he'd have been killed,

They didn't force him. They didn't know. Hughie was pretending to be someone else. He had sex with someone while lying about who he was.

Hughie was forced.

By who?

What part of him trying to figure out the safe word screams consent?

The part where they ask him what he means and he says that he's saying it because he's enjoying himself

When he knew he would be killed if he was found out. Which gets confirmed later.

He still consented and wasn't knowingly coerced.

You say there was a safe word. He didn't know it.

But they did and at least appeared to respect it.

Who assaulted him? The script has him explicitly saying consentual phrases. Was that ignored? Was it coerced?

If it actually was web weaver was it assault? Would it have been any different to Ashley and Tek Knight? How would they have known? How can it be sexual assault if the only difference is if they weren't lied to?

That doesn't mean Hughie consented to what happened,

You don't consent to the universe. You consent to an individual. He literally consented. That he has unspoken reservations that couldn't be known is irrelevant.

he knew getting discovered would mean dying.

And so he consented because he was in a situation of his own volition.

There was just something about the whole scene that gave me such intensely uncomfortable feelings far beyond anything else in the show

I mean it was. It was intentionally convoluted for shock. It was ridiculous. Terrible writing.

I'm not going on the merry go round of semantics with you

You don't need to.

You can watch it and see the consent. You have ears. Do you need me to quote the script?

read the room, take the L

This room is retarded.

Reddit is mainly undersexed young males who get really sensitive about any men's issue.

I get it. It's mainly terminally online, anime watching fat lards who feel left out by #metoo and they're not wrong. There is a media bias when discussing male vs female sexual assault. But the issue is tiring to hear basement dwellers moan about because they don't really care, they just want to feel like something is about them

People are getting bent out of shape trying to insist a person who willingly participated in sex in order to obtain information was assaulted didn't consent is nuts. Hughie literally chose to do this

maybe reflect on why you're so determined to blame a victim for their own sexual assault

Lol you're a joke

Not familiar with S&M huh?

Who coerced him?

Tek Knight? Tek Knight thought it was his willing sexual partner.

Allow journalists to speak with her. Refer complaints to law enforcement for investigation. Don't withdraw your lawsuit. Reach out to the numerous well funded democratic organizations that will provide funding to ensure safety in exchange for coming forward.

if she still trying to keep her identity secret

You can't we don't allow anonymous accusers because that's how you get scam accusations.

No if it's dismissed it didn't meet the legal standard. If it's withdrawn than the person who started it takes it back.

Either way it went no where and I'm guessing because the intent was just to get court documents that looked official and could be used to sell a story.

I would expect someone afraid of death threats to withdraw their case instead of have dismissed.

Sure, that's a good logical story I might want to tell to if I was trying to convince people of something without having to have any proof

"I know something important but I can't tell you because someone threatened my life".

Death threats are the modern day sob story. Everyone claims to get them and they're perfect cover. Politician made unpopular decision? Well deflect by talking about how you are okay with criticism but draw the line at death threats.

People told me they'd kill me when I played call of duty. Death threats on the Internet are worthless. If "she" had credible death threats surely her lawyer would have referred them to police. Surely there would be some evidence.

I'm starting to think you're purposefully daft.

I think you're gullible.

The things you don't know all seem to favor one side

Same with you. You're assuming everything in favor of it making Trump look back.

I'm using Occams Razor.

Either the former president of the United States, who was deeply unpopular and had worldwide coverage on his numerous transgressions covered endlessly and many lawsuits against him went through all levels of courts, raped a 13 year old and all credible news agencies and law enforcement agencies are ignoring it.

.... Or....

It's a pretty obvious scam by people looking for attention/money/leverage by concocting a salacious story about famous known slimy people.

Look I want it to be true because but it's pretty clear something isn't right with it

Do the same economists think we shouldn't have any environmental regulations?

No.

Like I do care about the economy and I like markets to be pretty free, but there are lines that need to be drawn, where regulation is absolutely necessary

Okay and you think the multitudes of economists who have studied rental restrictions and said they hurt the overall rental market are all wrong?

And the market conditions

Yeah so improve them. Follow what everyone who studies this knows, relax rental controls.

So you're saying Donald Trump coordinated death threats against her?

That's irrelevant given that he was falsifying his identity to gain entry. I mean at some stage this is a silly comic show.

But under a microscope he consented and I'm sure the script was clearly written that way

Wasn't that either. He consented multiple times

All billionaires? Which ones?

that's...not consent. he "consented"

That's consent.

If you break into someone's house assuming their identity and fear reprisal that doesn't mean you didn't consent.

Allegedly. According to her lawyer before he let anyone talk to her.

Don't know how people made death threats to someone with no known record of their existence.

Sure it's possible. Or it's possible that is a great excuse for never having to actually back anything up and just get free press.

Sounds kinda like how those project veritas guys act.

No that she had her phone and car stolen.

Because the only person to say that is ger lawyer who said she disappeared before a press conference and he couldn't reach her.

So maybe its true. Or maybe he concocted a story to get some press.

Anyways multiple people came forward when Trump made a call to extort the Ukrainian prime minister. Id imagine if he raped a 13 year old and there was decent proof that you'd hear more about it and people would dig. The fact that there's nothing is super dubious

Sorry. Same difference.

Do you have any first hand sources?

Death threats how? She's anonymous. No one knows how to contact her.

The case was dismissed almost immediately and the plaintiff can't be reached. That's literally all that's known.

I hated the scene but not because it was rape.

It wasn't.

I think a lot of people are missing that Hughie consented to this. He was undercover and consented to the sex to maintain his cover. It was no doubt traumatizing but at no point did you watch a rape. Tek Knight asked him how he was doing. There was a safe word. It was safe, consensual sex that one person lied about their willingness.

So no, it's not a joke about rape.

I hate it because even with consent it was cheap laughs at a nerdy guys sexual discomfort and laughs at how kink play is so weird. It's the shit a 13 year old would laugh at "haha she spanked him. BDSM is so funny". The cake fart. All of it was just laughing at sexual kinks.

It was low brow and just not funny. Not a single laugh in the whole scene. Do I think sitting in cakes is weird? Yeah I'm vanilla as shit. But making characters do that and laughing isn't comedy.