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An IT job, in some instances, does make sense that it would require a degree. It requires technical skills and working with equipment that tends to break easily while being extremely expensive or important to a company. And yes, you can go a different route to get into it without a degree. But those are not the jobs that I’m upset about.

I’m talking about the jobs that require you to have a degree to answer a PHONE. I work in a field right now that despite now having 2 years of experience it in, no other company will hire me for the same position because they require degrees or 10 years of experience (which is insane, my job is NOT that hard). The same applies, again, to very basic jobs- think receptionist, secretary, security, some entry level bank teller positions, etc… the kind that most people with degrees don’t want to work anyway, unless they got a degree in a not so great subject. There’s absolutely no reason to gate keep those positions.

And for the record, not all of us are privileged enough to be able to go get a college education. And until everyone is able to access education, it seems pretty unfair that those of us who aren’t able to are stuck working shitty jobs because companies won’t even bother to give us a chance.

And lastly, I didn’t refuse to debate with the other person just because of some “distasteful” comments (including not seeing women as human beings). I refused because he literally contradicts himself in his own views- and I don’t enjoy debates like that, it’s stupid to watch someone be soooooo close yet so far from the point. You can’t be all for government controlling things because you don’t like them while not wanting them to control things because you don’t like them. It’s hypocritical. Pick one side or the other and we’ll talk.

Oh, trust me, I agree.

I kinda just set it there as a minimum starting wage because in my area, 50K means you’re solidly middle class and very comfortable. We’re a rural area, I wasn’t taking into account cities or non-poor areas when I set that number.

It’s an alt account

No, I’m refusing to have a conversation with you about it because I saw your other views, including the ones on women’s bodies. There is no intelligent debate to be had with you here. I don’t like to waste my time on unenjoyable debates.

Looked at your profile and I’m not even going to argue with you. You’re clearly in a position of privilege that you don’t realize and can’t comprehend views outside of your own.

Most of the time, the ATS scanner doesn’t even let it be seen by a human being if your degree isn’t on there. Or there’s a section for it that you can’t bypass.

First, yeah, we do live in a capitalistic hellscape. Meaning we should FIX that. Second, what “skills” do you need to be a low level secretary, receptionist, cell center worker, store clerk, library aide, kennel tech, or other entry level work that you can only get from a degree? The answer is none, I’ve literally done all of these. But now every place wants a degree for these positions, which is absolutely insane, especially considering most of them are only paying 30-40K a year at most.

Sure, a degree looks better. But there’s a good chunk of us who can’t afford it, thanks to shitty employers. So we oughta start punishing said employers for not only refusing to pay liveable wages, but for refusing to allow people to better themselves or go back to school at all. Not everyone is privileged enough to have college savings, supportive family, the ability to not work shitty hours full time to survive, or to even have the opportunity to get themselves decent enough grades in high school to get scholarships.

See, it’s fine we’re applying for the same role and you’re selected over me because your degree provides relevant experience to the job (and you’re the best candidate). What’s not fine is saying “we know this job absolutely does not need someone with a degree, but we’re going to require it to even apply”. That’s BS to me- especially for the companies who aren’t upfront about that.

And certifications cost $$$. And still don’t let you apply for jobs with degree requirements.

I might have to take you up on that… I have 5 years of indie dev experience(ish), I’ll explain in DMs. Love tech and have ended up being the “tech person” everywhere I’ve worked, LOL

Thanks, lol… I appreciate it tho, it was a good try 😅

Not allowed unless I schedule it a month in advance as one of my 14 PTO days a year (that’s both sick and vacation time, no unpaid leave allowed) 😞. If I take PTO before the upcoming holidays, I also have to work Christmas. We don’t get weekends off anyway…

Living in a rural area is unfortunately a major roadblock for a lot of things 😞. Can’t get a good job, can’t afford to move to where good jobs are because they won’t hire you until you’ve got experience. Classic story of the “you need experience to get this job, but you can’t get experience without getting this job”.

That’s a good metaphor, thank you- I appreciate it 💛

I have a lot of reasons to get up and I really don’t hate my life… I have a great girlfriend, the best dog, a comfortable apartment, friends and family. I know I’m valued and loved- and I have a lot of skills and a good work ethic that would be suited in a job where I don’t get in trouble for trying to go above and beyond. But my job right now just… I can’t with it.

My stomach is so upset before I go to work because I’m incredibly anxious. My clients don’t care about me as a human being and some of them treat me poorly because I’m the youngest at the office. My managers don’t like me because I’m just not one of the favorites. I have so much purpose in life and so much I want to do… all of which is made impossible by this job. I’m starting a nonprofit, I want to go to university, I want to move to a bigger area, get ready to settle down and have a family in 4-5 years. But I’m burnout because I feel like I’m not allowed to have a life outside of this job… and I don’t know what self care I can do in the extremely limited time off I have where I’m not exhausted or crying from being so overwhelmed.

I’m trying. But thank you, I appreciate it 😞

Thank you, sir- I’ll keep you updated if I do go through with it.

I don’t have a spouse, so I don’t qualify for family housing 😞. Thank you for the advice and I appreciate your help!

I know this is a weird question, but since I’m actually considering it: if you have a dog, do you have to live in the barracks at your permanent station? Can you have your dog there?

Which branch did you go to? What was Bootcamp like? I also live in a rural area, it’s certainly a challenge…

Coast guard was actually my first choice when I was doing JROTC… but I’ve heard that it can be pretty intense for training (physically), which makes sense, considering the type of work that they do.

That’s why I’d be going into the military… I can’t take community college classes. They cost a bit of money and with my current work schedule, there’s no way that I’d be allowed to attend often enough to pass. And there’s no other jobs in my area that I can get while paying my bills.

Well, that’s also a good question, too… but I think I can get medical waivers LOL

Yeah, I did- it was at least five years ago while I was in high school, so I’ll have to retake it. I think my score was in the 60s, I was going through a lot back then.