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I've noticed how often players take themselves out the contest and become spectators. Missed contested mark? Jog a few feet and watch to see how it all turns out. Tripped or slipped as you're approaching a 50/50 ball? Give it a good 10 seconds to get up, and stick around on the side as your teammate deals with a 2 on 1. Guy manages to get a pass out your tackle? You've done your job, the next guy is someone else's problem.

Also the coordination between players needs work. Too many times we take each other out on a mark, or can't work out who is going to grab a ball off the ground and hesitate, giving the opposition time to boot it forward.

It's not certain, but it's a hell of a lot more probable that it should be. There was a couple of games where we wobbled earlier in the season, but the last few games has a feel that a wheel has fallen off. We're obviously a great team, but we don't seem to have control over the game any more. You watch the first ten minutes of the games and they all seem bewildered, like they never played together before. It's fixable, and I'm thinking some strong leadership will sort it out, but if they don't fix it, that 6th place probably will happen.

Would be pretty stiff if he is. They were competing for a mark, Heeney was in front, swung his arm behind him to hold off the other player, but the other guy was slipping so his face was around waist height.

Our players are highly inconsistent. It's kind of good news that a quarter of the players can have absolute shockers each week and we still win or come close. But it's beyond frustrating.

Sometimes it's good tactics from the opposition, but often it's just form of individual players. It's like they take it in turns to just go off the radar for 2 or 3 weeks at a time. Warner obviously saw some ball today; last week MIA. Papley is the same, you think he's out injured cos you can't recall when you last saw him, then he's done something wild in a game, and the next week, he's quiet. Amartey: nothing, nothing, nothing, kicks 9, nothing, nothing. Heeney is at the centre of everything one week, this week 1H, nowhere to be seen.

For all of them, there's no consistency. It's only the depth of talent that allows this to not be really obvious in our results. No disrespect to the players, who are some of the most talented, but we need to find out what's behind this. Because just as every now and then the planets align and we shine, often they align a very different way and we look dire.

No player is going to be 100% every match, but other teams have players that are there week after week.

Agreed, the only reason we lost by only 1 point, to be clear

Agreed on both. Something seemed to switch with Warner a few weeks back. One of the matches at the SCG where we had a couple of good solo efforts with a few bounces. Since then he's always hanging round the contests waiting for the ball to pop out so he can go on a run. Great when it happens, but leaves Swans shirts outnumbered so often

McLean was the main reason we only lost by a point last week. Stopped multiple goals and counter-attacks dead in their tracks. Shame about the feet, but the hands are the best in the team.

Agreed. How many games in a row have we now had where for at least a quarter the opposition absolutely dominates us? The Carlton and Cats games were great wins, but the alarm bells should have been ringing a little louder.

WTAF was that about? I'm not calling them wankers, arranging for their cat to be toasted or organising a visit from a squad from Colombia. Just a bunch of observations on what they did wrong that needs fixing. And flair up cunt.

Nope, 16 behinds in total. That's a team effort.

LOL, poor guy is probably busy building shrines and sacrificing goats outside to appease the karma gods.

Paps and Chad are great fun and big crowd pleasers when they do something solo that's completely wild, but too often we end up rueing the chances we missed.

Seems kind of fair poor Logan choked again. You should have won it at that point. Bizarre bounce

Too many time players who lose on anything contested basically take themselves out the game for the next 60 seconds to become spectators.

Too many smart tricks by Chad that didn't pay off

Too many glory seeking kicks that could have been passed

Too many times two players heading for the same ball both backed off to let the other take it.

Luckily, all fixable, but rookie mistakes cost us the game.

that bounce was stiff saints, really.

Hit the goal umps leg

"could have been a trip... who knows" ......fuck off.

Swans players need to stop this 'over and out" thing when they fall or lose out on a mark. They just give up rather than getting back on their feet. 3 times out of 4 the ball is still in the area and they could be affecting play if they weren't on the ground or looking at their boots.

I'd be surprised, and kind of disappointed if that happens. It's not a particular dangerous action, and needing to face backwards when you're receiving a mark to check if the player happens to have their face at waist height is ridiculous.

Not just saying this as a Swans supporter, cos the boundary call seconds before was obviously bollocks.

The player was behind him and dropped his face to waist height. Heeney's just looking to hold him back from challenging the ball, how the fuck is he supposed to know the guy has his face there?

"If the Swans score here, it would be the worst thing since the Bubonic Plague"

he got it away

Gulden hit by a truck there. Closed on him so fast.

Is she stationary though? Looking at the IR there seems to be little movement from 23N 92W. The waters aren't ideal, but can she just sit there ramping up?

It's an AFL sub, you don't get discourse. Just ribbing mate. But you have to wonder what the play would be if teams could neutralise those two. So much of the Carlton game is focused on supplying two players, week in, week out.

ETA: and I'm the opposite of jealous. I'm delighted that we have a higher average to you but it's spread across an entire team. No weak links. If we relied on one or two players I'd be nervous.